Credit in 1 BTC on the security of coins.

[DimaKazanbaev]

Hello.
This is my first post.

I have 0.25 BTC, but I need a larger amount.
I will return exactly in 2 months if someone can give such a loan.
There is a method of how to get income, but the amount I have is not enough (

I also attach a screen of my coins from the Trezor wallet.
I can also provide my personal passport.

If someone can give a loan, I will be glad.
If I demand too much, do not scold me.
If no one helps, I'll close the topic later and think what to do.

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[blackrabbit1]

Hello.
This is my first post.

I have 0.25 BTC, but I need a larger amount.
I will return exactly in 2 months if someone can give such a loan.
There is a method of how to get income, but the amount I have is not enough (

I also attach a screen of my coins from the Trezor wallet.
I can also provide my personal passport.

If someone can give a loan, I will be glad.
If I demand too much, do not scold me.
If no one helps, I'll close the topic later and think what to do.

What's your collateral?

[DimaKazanbaev]

What's your collateral?

I have only 0.25 BTC.
And what do you need to provide in all cases?

[mOgliE]

Are you in the EU?

Otherwise I won't be able to fill a loan without collateral.

[condoras]

So, let's get this straight.

You show us a pic from a wallet that you claim that is yours (can you sign it?) and have 0.25BTC.
It's not "enough" though for your calibre as a trader (?) and you ask for more.
As for Collateral, you "offer" documents (which is not valid here) and the pic as an example that you are saying the truth and we should trust you.

One question. You really believe that someone will fall to this foolish,scam-crap request of yours?!
Do to all of us a favor and go somewhere else to ask for a "credit".

[DimaKazanbaev]

I'm from Russia.
I can sign the message, but I don’t know how.
I have no other passport and this is not my fault (

Why immediately fraud? The available amount is small to avoid a possible drawdown.
Therefore, I want to prevent this and work with a larger amount.

[mOgliE]

I'm from Russia.
I can sign the message, but I don’t know how.
I have no other passport and this is not my fault (

Why immediately fraud? The available amount is small to avoid a possible drawdown.
Therefore, I want to prevent this and work with a larger amount.

Ok let us go straight to the point:

you ask 1 BTC loan right? That's 4k$
what can you give us that guarantee you're not going to run away with the money after we send it to you?

As for Collateral, you "offer" documents (which is not valid here)

Actually I would accept IDs from EU members as EU made really simple precedures to recover loans from EU members. Takes a few months but you get a very nice return (the loan, the interests plus about 30% of fees) so it's not a bad take.

But EU only.

[Vod]

There is a method of how to get income, but the amount I have is not enough (

I think you should reveal your method, without revealing your source.

I think you are getting scammed, friend.  :/

[condoras]

I'm from Russia.

We know this already...

I can sign the message, but I don’t know how.

Google it and you will get back here (at some other section though).

I have no other passport and this is not my fault (

You want to have more than one?

Why immediately fraud? The available amount is small to avoid a possible drawdown.
Therefore, I want to prevent this and work with a larger amount.

Not immediately fraud, just now... If your amount is small, then don't trade. You want others money to risk and without something to prevent the lender to get scammed.
Nothing more to say, cheers!

Actually I would accept IDs from EU members as EU made really simple precedures to recover loans from EU members. Takes a few months but you get a very nice return (the loan, the interests plus about 30% of fees) so it's not a bad take.

But EU only.

Sorry to say it but it's not so easy as you present it. It's a long discussion/ story and this thread isn't the proper one.
Nevertheless, you can get your money back if you prosecute the borrower.
In any case though, the gold rule apply. If the person that you prosecute doesn't have any valuable asset, the only thing that you will get is 0 and you will pay all the expenses for this.

Not to mention that you, as a lender, will have to explain to authorities how, where and when you get the money that you gave to the borrower in the first place.

[blackrabbit1]

I'm from Russia.
I can sign the message, but I don’t know how.
I have no other passport and this is not my fault (

Why immediately fraud? The available amount is small to avoid a possible drawdown.
Therefore, I want to prevent this and work with a larger amount.

Ok let us go straight to the point:

you ask 1 BTC loan right? That's 4k$
what can you give us that guarantee you're not going to run away with the money after we send it to you?

As for Collateral, you "offer" documents (which is not valid here)

Actually I would accept IDs from EU members as EU made really simple precedures to recover loans from EU members. Takes a few months but you get a very nice return (the loan, the interests plus about 30% of fees) so it's not a bad take.

But EU only.

Be careful of fake ID.

[ThatRandom8543]

Actually I would accept IDs from EU members as EU made really simple precedures to recover loans from EU members. Takes a few months but you get a very nice return (the loan, the interests plus about 30% of fees) so it's not a bad take.

But EU only.

I would be extremely careful as its very easy to fake identification. Even in the EU, such documentations can be forged and some people could be caught in the mix. So unless you have a wide range database with access to everyone pictures to match whats on the ID and have the borrower take a picture holding said ID to confirm a match (which would also still be tricky since CGI do exist), you would have a hard time with some folks who would go those lengths. Plus if you lend in crypto, that can still be a tricky thing there depending on how EU laws would see crypto as, etc.

[DimaKazanbaev]

I understood you.
And then what should I do?
I understand that just not everyone will give $ 4000 to the first comer.

[blackrabbit1]

I understood you.
And then what should I do?
I understand that just not everyone will give $ 4000 to the first comer.

Offer something that has 120% value of your loan amount
And we will be able to grant you the loan
Otherwise you're asking no collateral loan with newbie account
And I would suggest you lock the thread before being tagged

[DimaKazanbaev]

So if I had the right amount, I would not have asked for a loan.
And you say you need to have a lot of money to give you money.
It sounds absurd!

I do not understand then the point in this.
It turns out I can ask only 0.2 BTC?
Or is this also not right?   

[mOgliE]

So if I had the right amount, I would not have asked for a loan.
And you say you need to have a lot of money to give you money.
It sounds absurd!

I do not understand then the point in this.
It turns out I can ask only 0.2 BTC?
Or is this also not right?   

Please google the definition of collateral.

You can take a loan if you have something of 120% of value of the loan you want and you can give to the lender so he can be sure it's secured.

That can be anything that has 120% of value of your need and can be sold rather easily:
-Altcoins (you can have ETH for example without wanting to sell them for BTC)
-precious metal (gold, silver...)
-collectibles

When you take a loan from a bank for a house for example, the collateral securing the loan is the house. If you default the loan the bank takes the house.

Same thing here.

[blackrabbit1]

So if I had the right amount, I would not have asked for a loan.
And you say you need to have a lot of money to give you money.
It sounds absurd!

I do not understand then the point in this.
It turns out I can ask only 0.2 BTC?
Or is this also not right?   

@m0gliE has explained everything
You don't walk into a bank and say "Here'e the screenshot of my online bank account, I want a $4000 loan"
If you have good credit, you might get a no collateral loan
But we're not in your country, we don't have a way to check your credit score
Even if we can do that, we won't have a way to get back our fund if you default, since we have no jurisdiction in your country
That's why we need collateral, in case you default, we can just sell the collateral and compensate our lost

If you have 0.2BTC or something, you could use it as collateral and ask for similar amount of alt-coin
If you don't have anything as collateral, then unfortunately, you can ask for 0BTC
Since no one will lend to a random stranger on the internet

[DimaKazanbaev]

How do I, for example, give gold or precious stones?
To provide a pledge.

[mOgliE]

How do I, for example, give gold or precious stones?
To provide a pledge.

You say "I have gold as a collateral" and then you see if someone accepts it as a collateral.

I would for example.

Then you send the gold to the one lending you and he keeps it until you repay the loan.

You can use a trusted escrow if it's needed.

[shasan]

So if I had the right amount, I would not have asked for a loan.

If you have good credit, you might get a no collateral loan
But we're not in your country, we don't have a way to check your credit score

But still, you can ask for a loan without collateral also you will get the loan without collateral only if you have higher rank/ reputation or both. As you will not give a loan to a begger or stranger 100$, we also will not give a single dollar to a newbie without collateral. Think yourself, how much you can give to a stranger?

[DimaKazanbaev]

I still have a lot of old coins, but it's forbidden to send them by mail, like jewels (
Even the DHL cannot legally do this.