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May 16, 2020, 06:30:36 PM
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Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.
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May 16, 2020, 08:40:13 PM
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In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

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May 17, 2020, 02:28:56 AM
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In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

Not only do you need to know the team and each player and how their chemistry fares out in their plays, more importantly you need to know the game itself. It would be a lacking analysis if you are familiar with the teams and their line-ups and their statistics but not the eSports game itself. There may be strengths and weaknesses of players and teams that won't easily reflect on their stat numbers.

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May 17, 2020, 07:19:48 AM
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Here you can find the List of TOP 10 E-Sports Betting Sites: http://sportstatist.com/e-sports-betting-sites-eng/

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May 17, 2020, 08:13:08 AM
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In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

Definitely it requires research and you knowledge about the team and the individual players and their strength and weakness. This would help you to judge who may have the better side of winning under the given conditions and also some games may be dependent on which ground and country it is player and some team or players are best suited to perform best in those specific grounds. Also, such information should be known before betting on e-sports.

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May 17, 2020, 09:49:55 AM
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In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

E sports betting.is.not simple, it's demanding and to my opinion it's for analytical types of players. So, yes, I agree if you want to be successful in e sport betting you need to.do a lot of research and collect a lot of information but not many people have preferences for that, they prefere easy way. That is why to my opinion e sports betting doesn't have much fans.

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May 17, 2020, 11:30:32 AM
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Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.
Do you mean the smurfs? those accounts that shouldn't be on the rank that they are playing? I also dealt with those kinds of players but it's just them playing on lower rank and Valve are punishing those players. What I'm telling you isn't about the rank games or normal games that we used to play. But, it's about the tournament plays and official games with prizes that's being broadcasted all over the world with many shoutcasters and streamers. I guess that's what you meant to say and it's not related to the official league and tournaments.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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May 23, 2020, 07:55:14 AM
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Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.
Do you mean the smurfs? those accounts that shouldn't be on the rank that they are playing? I also dealt with those kinds of players but it's just them playing on lower rank and Valve are punishing those players. What I'm telling you isn't about the rank games or normal games that we used to play. But, it's about the tournament plays and official games with prizes that's being broadcasted all over the world with many shoutcasters and streamers. I guess that's what you meant to say and it's not related to the official league and tournaments.

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..
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May 24, 2020, 08:57:02 AM
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It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

so what's your angle as a bettor? which e-sports---or i guess more importantly what levels of competition and odds---do you find worth betting on?

i'm finding some interesting plays with good odds on lower tier tournaments. (~major for SC2/brood wars, minor for dota 2, re liquipedia tier)

i'm gonna try a strategy where i focus on high variance matches with long odds where i think books are underpricing underdogs. i've been doing a lot of research the last couple days and this seems somewhat common.

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May 24, 2020, 11:14:54 AM
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In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

E sports betting.is.not simple, it's demanding and to my opinion it's for analytical types of players. So, yes, I agree if you want to be successful in e sport betting you need to.do a lot of research and collect a lot of information but not many people have preferences for that, they prefere easy way. That is why to my opinion e sports betting doesn't have much fans.

Yup, its kind of hard to predict the outcome of the game just by picking the best team. One mistake of that team can be the turning point of the game, anyone can lose. There is so much to think of in e-sports game. For example in dota 2, picking is a crucial part too, the team who outpicks the enemy team has more chance in winning. Its kind of tricky also when it comes to a team with a new player. How can you predict that the new player can blend with the team if you haven't see him play for the team a couple of times.

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May 25, 2020, 07:38:52 AM
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It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

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For example in dota 2, picking is a crucial part too, the team who outpicks the enemy team has more chance in winning.
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In fact, this is what makes it more predictable. In live betting where it is provided by several betting sites, you can place a bet after seeing the draft so you can be more confident with your bet.

So don't just place a bet on a pre-match.
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May 27, 2020, 09:10:10 AM
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It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

Well, I wrote. Mega popular tournaments are unpredictable. Too evenly matched. The best is the medium games... But here we have too little regulation and too much risk of dishonesty...
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You'll never get away with this. But you can use these things. If you analyze the behavior on the btc stock exchange well and you know the mentality and psychology of people, you can make money. And I'm more of an analyst than a typical stock market

Research are inspired by other experienced CSGO players from https://pro.eslgaming.com/  and  LOL ex-players and esports bettors from esporttalk.org , esportal and reddit.com and discord

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You'll never get away with this. But you can use these things. If you analyze the behavior on the btc stock exchange well and you know the mentality and psychology of people, you can make money. And I'm more of an analyst than a typical stock market

   I never placed bet on e-sports! I think like you, some people can get away with this and make profit, and
maybe LoL with just 5 vs 5, and Counter Strike with 5 VS 5 is easier to analyze than other games with more
players. If you know how they play and their state you will have advantage!
   I should start making bets on e-sports, from recently I started watching my kid and some show about
League of Legends, it's not bad to try betting on kids and their play. Where you can place bet for e-sports?



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June 12, 2020, 05:33:59 AM
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If you analyze the behavior on the btc stock exchange well and you know the mentality and psychology of people, you can make money. And I'm more of an analyst than a typical stock market
Then why are you posting here. This is a thread about sports betting and not stock market analysis.

If you say that both need analysis then I agree with you. Sports need a lot of homework from the gambler's part and keeping up with performances and game outcomes is not an easy thing to do everyday and provided the fact that any prediction that you might be a loss makes it even more repulsive.

It is important to seek out some games where most players dont bet in but it is not a guaranteed win trick. You need to know the game and the players. In e-sports this is tougher than a physical sport.

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Then why are you posting here. This is a thread about sports betting and not stock market analysis.

If you say that both need analysis then I agree with you. Sports need a lot of homework from the gambler's part and keeping up with performances and game outcomes is not an easy thing to do everyday and provided the fact that any prediction that you might be a loss makes it even more repulsive.

It is important to seek out some games where most players dont bet in but it is not a guaranteed win trick. You need to know the game and the players. In e-sports this is tougher than a physical sport.


Best to ignore people like them. They are either not reading and posting or worse still even bots.

ALTHOUGH there is a point in some people talking about betting like they trade. I even agree some people who trade like they gamble. Looking for strategies,,, after all sportsbetting and trading also relies a lot on analysis but is still affected by "random" factors. Not random because anything could happen but random because we cannot possibly know how things will happen:)

e-sports for me is also unique because of electronic randomness. Speed of internet at any given time. The function of your keyboard and mouse even!

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June 17, 2020, 06:40:23 AM
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e-sports for me is also unique because of electronic randomness. Speed of internet at any given time. The function of your keyboard and mouse even!
Ping and latency issues too. One of the reasons why Third world country users have suffered in online multiplayer games which need a quick response time and are unable to get a special ISP sponsorship for a leased line. So you can understand the similarity with the physical sports by the people who control them and e-sports. They cant practice with seasoned players as well.

These things will influence the way bets are made. If they are put on a world stage where the game is on LAN then the ping issue will be gone but they are less likely to have an edge. Still it can differ.

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It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

Well, I wrote. Mega popular tournaments are unpredictable. Too evenly matched. The best is the medium games... But here we have too little regulation and too much risk of dishonesty...

These mega tournaments are great for betting Competitors and demand double due to lower risk However, not too much profit is achieved Most people play for fun. I also play here occasionally Betting through the lockdown is a much better means of entertainment.

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I would be curious to know if e-sports betting are a good fit for machine learning algorithms. I mean, the data is there, it is quantifiable and should follow the same rules as traditional sports in which this kind of methods is proven to work. Anyone has some information about this topic ?



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June 19, 2020, 11:07:33 AM
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Not in the slightest remote chance is AI or machine learning able to handle the variances of player performance even if it were held in a more regular physical setting of a LAN it would still be incredibly hard to predict.    Especially now with most action online even if the teams are together its not a regular performance and CS is managing delays between locations to balance competitive advantage.   It matters at the pro level, it will add some effect or disruption for equality and its just another reason why no computer is working it out reliably.
   The systems you talk about will be referring to home advantage and all sorts plus just a physical sport has something to map out and human bodies have more of a cycle to their performance so its trackable.  Esports is still something requiring real performance and people have their peaks but its really less regular to observe.

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