Tricks and tips for esports betting

[tumis]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

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[eternalgloom]

I think there's no easy way of learning to make correct picks, you basically have to know exactly how the games work and you need to know intricate details about the players/teams.
I've made some successful picks in the past, on Starcraft for example, just because I'd been following one particular player while he was trying to move up the ladder.

I'd noticed that his game seemed a little bit off and decided to bet against him when he was playing against a slightly weaker opponent.
My gut feeling ended up being correct, since I made a nice profit from that game.

It's little stuff like this that you should take notice of.

[harizen]

That is a game of strategy therefore even how good all involved parties are, we can't really say what is the output.

I think it's far way difficult compare to sports betting. Why? Because I have knowledge at both therefore I can analyzed and compared them according to my own set of criteria.

If you really want to pursue your E-sports betting experience, start by watching matches regularly. You will see how players involved applying their strategy on the game. On that way, you can somehow have references that will complete your set of criteria.

Yes you need to build experienced here, same on other types of betting.

[BetICO78]

You are more likely to benefit from e-sports betting, if you choose the right betting site, do your investigation and track your returns.
Do not bet on chain logic which means for example if FaZe beat Na'vi and Na'vi beat Fnatic don't think that this make FaZe favourites against Fnatic. Their map pools and styles may not match up that good against other opponents. 
Also, take as much time as you can to watch different teams and tournaments, learn their strengths and weaknesses.
For more e-sports betting tips you may visit https://www.esportsbettingwebsites.com/tips/

[St4yInTh3D4rk]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

The tip to win in the sport betting is deep analysis about the players and squad which may give an idea about winner but not for sure.Institution based betting may not be fit for sport betting since it is strategy based we need to decide what will happen while the matches are going.

Guaranteed way for making money in the sport betting is match fixing but it is illegal to do.

[SterlingArcher]

I have seen and used predictive algorithms that use historical data (which there isn't much) a few years back that would produce a "true line" and compare the +- % inflation to the Offered line at the book. All it took was a basic API from pinnacle for the lines, and the algorithm as I recall was pretty basic, just like the same ones for NBA and NFL. Sadly, I'm not a coder- but if this rings a bell let me know. The site was smartdotabetting.com I believe (now defunct) but I'd love to talk to the coder for that site as it was about 4 years ago. I had an incredible run with that site.

I agree with other posters here that say the BEST way to handicap an Esports match is good, old-school DYOR along with following social media accounts, knowing which teams are better at certain maps (this comes in hand when live betting).

I am an old-school handicapper for major sports- but will be developing a prediction system for ESPORTS in 2019 that will be used as a guide to make decisions in the future.

I am always open to DM's or input.

Cheers
-Sterling Archer, Codename Dutchess

[milewilda]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

How make money on betting on esports? This is just the same talking on how to win any gambling game but the fact that gambling can be categorize in 2 things.Luck-based and strategic ones and esports is belonged
on strategic ones which means studying or knowing the teams past history and performance would be a great factor that can help out to make your decision. Why would bet on a team if you do saw
that their stats isnt so good compared to others?

[leowonderful]

Having a deep understanding of the game you're betting on as well as the team is what I use for CS:GO betting (a popular esports game if you didn't know), and this has helped me make some good profits on the lower-tier North American CS:GO matchups. There's obviously some level of luck in betting as with any type of gambling, and I don't always make the best predictions for matches every single time, but having a basic knowledge of the game you're betting on greatly helps out. I've found that my match prediction accuracy has increased as I have gotten better at CS:GO.

I also personally know some of the people in lower-tier NA CS:GO matches, and knowing the players and their recent scrimmage results and such helps me predict matches more accurately than if I didn't have the connections I currently have.

[bitmover]

Check the game's reddit/news sites for extra info (sometimes an important player can't attend to a match and you might learn that sooner than the betting site...). Do it DAILY.

That's true. Watching games daily and getting informed about players and the whole team will certainly help. Look at statistics.

It is almost a fundamental analysis. You can also check balances of the clubs, as more money will usually means Better performance in mid term.

[Patatas]

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Well, I know there are a lot of teams which are paid to lose and agree to unfair means of playing the games. This is no different than match-fixing in real-life sports. If you're lucky on the other end, you will probably make a lot of money. This is by no chance a good way of beating esports but most of the bookies know the fixed matches and they will fuck you over by manipulating the match midst game.

[Ross.Thoms27]

There's a good discussion going on here and I've picked up some tips for myself. Just want to ask though, could you also share reliable sites offering statistical analysis for esports?

[icalical]

I agree to most of the opinion posted on the replies before mine, and I will add some.
First of all you need to know how the game works, the mechanical, technical, gameplay etc. Without this basic knowledge, it is almost impossible to do an analysis. Then you need to keep up with the player/roster change, the main difference between E-sport and traditional sport is that there is no exact schedule when players can move to another team, so you need the most updated team roster info. And dig deep information about the captain  of both team in the match, like their playstyle, strategy and playstyle preference, captain really control how a team play their game.

[imstillthebest]

esports betting are a kind of skill based games where your analysis are more better than luck . you just need to pick the best teams or the best player because theres always a higher chance that they could win  compared to weak players  .   fixers and game cookers are verry rare on esports because esports are more legit than compared to live bettings and sports based gambling  like jai alai .

[mersal]

esports betting are a kind of skill based games where your analysis are more better than luck . you just need to pick the best teams or the best player because theres always a higher chance that they could win  compared to weak players  .   fixers and game cookers are verry rare on esports because esports are more legit than compared to live bettings and sports based gambling  like jai alai .

Sports betting is always different from others betting ways because sports betting are more addictive and gives more tension for you that's why sports betting also played by lots of people and there is not tips and tricks for that because gambling in not allowed tips and tricks that allows only luck and time.

[Ross.Thoms27]

esports betting are a kind of skill based games where your analysis are more better than luck . you just need to pick the best teams or the best player because theres always a higher chance that they could win  compared to weak players  .   fixers and game cookers are verry rare on esports because esports are more legit than compared to live bettings and sports based gambling  like jai alai .

Agreed! Specially in Dota 2, LOL and CS. it is based on player and team if you already how that team plays then you have a chance to win, especially when you watch all their game.

[erikoy]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Just go with the flow of betting like see the pool to which team or a player has a high bet. This because the people will tend to bet more on a team that has a high chance of winning. Definitely most of it will going to win though you will only have a small profit to earn because you are in the larger pool of bets.

[sportbettor]

List of the best eSports Betting Sites see here: http://100bookies.com/best-esports-betting-sites-eng/

[Naida_BR]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

In my opinion, esports betting is the easiest way so as to make a profit. Many betting platforms give high odds for betting in an esports game in order to attract players in this industry.
When I bet, I usually go with the team form and squad. It is very easy to predict a match as the better team wins. Another way to predict a match if you have no clue about the game is to bet in favor of the Asian team. Asia has a great esports industry and they have created very competitive teams. The best players usually come from this continent.

[Oilacris]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

In my opinion, esports betting is the easiest way so as to make a profit. Many betting platforms give high odds for betting in an esports game in order to attract players in this industry.
When I bet, I usually go with the team form and squad. It is very easy to predict a match as the better team wins. Another way to predict a match if you have no clue about the game is to bet in favor of the Asian team. Asia has a great esports industry and they have created very competitive teams. The best players usually come from this continent.

Agree on your point but about choosing which team is easy? I don't think so yet this is just like a typical betting on sports too the difference is that this is happening thru online.So the criterias or set-up would really be just the same.It does still need analysis or research about the team.The only thing we can able to observe if the team is on favorite side but well not all games would be sure win.

[sunsilk]

Go with the e-sports that you are good with, don't just bet with an uncertain decision or if you don't do analysis. In what e-sports are you good at or what's your hobby? if its cs:go and dota 2, you can figure out what to bet.

But if you are still not sure of what team to bet, you can look at this section for someone who do predictions especially if there are events such as majors. There's no trick to make money with e-sports betting, one tip that can I tell you is to watch highlights and replays on youtube of both team that will have a match.

But changing roster should also be considered.

[samcrypto]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Just go with the flow of betting like see the pool to which team or a player has a high bet. This because the people will tend to bet more on a team that has a high chance of winning. Definitely most of it will going to win though you will only have a small profit to earn because you are in the larger pool of bets.

You can study each team to know who has an advantage and place your bet on that team. This kind of gambling is quite profitable since you just need to bet on one team every game. And maybe there is no need for any luck here since every team are working hard to win the fight so better to make analysis and don’t just place your bet.

[leowonderful]

Additionally, if you're looking for a good place to view rosters and such in one place for CS:GO gambling, HLTV.org is a pretty good resource to use. For Dota, I often see people pointing towards GosuGamers' Dota 2 page for viewing match information. Both sites provide current roster information, past matchups and various other statistics that can be helpful in esports gambling for Dota and CS:GO. I like to use HLTV as it's a good place for discussion as well as viewing what maps both teams are good and bad at and such- there's nothing on par with HLTV for CS:GO as far as I know.

[ralle14]

Just go with the flow of betting like see the pool to which team or a player has a high bet. This because the people will tend to bet more on a team that has a high chance of winning. Definitely most of it will going to win though you will only have a small profit to earn because you are in the larger pool of bets.

Following someone blindly just because he/she bet big on a certain team isn't a good advice. Many people do bet on favorites because they think it'll win but it's not always an easy win for all favorites if you follow the competitive scene. Worlds 2018 and The International 2018 are a couple of examples where several favorites lost to underdogs.

It's not worth when the odds are so low and you'll be tempted to bet more just to get a 50% profit or less when you aim for heavy favorites. For anyone planning to make money from esports betting or sports betting in general this is the worst way to bet as it only takes a few losses to kill your bankroll.

[tabas]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

[Johnyz]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Great sites, I can see a lot of e-games that is happening around the world and it can really make your life more easy on choosing what games to bet for and what team you are with. Its normal to lose money, its inevitable and you must ready for that, if you just think that you did everything to analyze the game and yet you still lose then maybe luck was not on your side the moment you place your bet.

[playboy654]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Great sites, I can see a lot of e-games that is happening around the world and it can really make your life more easy on choosing what games to bet for and what team you are with. Its normal to lose money, its inevitable and you must ready for that, if you just think that you did everything to analyze the game and yet you still lose then maybe luck was not on your side the moment you place your bet.

 what I'm saying this in betting with something there is no tricks and tips it is all about our mind if we win with something then we think this is the ticks and this is the tips but it is not like that if we trust something it happened it is one of the common thing

[semobo]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

The best way to make money from sport betting is deep analysis about the game you are going to bet,the success maybe depends on players and their form still its a game so low performing team also can win the game miracly.

[Ross.Thoms27]

May i know where do you watch your favorite team live?? where do you stream?

[jademaxsuy]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Still this will not be worth it because betting in esports will not matter on the players that play the game. What matter is your interest in the game and you have followed them always and you know the chances are when you bet in the sports they play and you like also. Just like in NBA to where I am not a good analyst but I know who were good teams that could have a higher chance on winning if there will be a betting event to happen.

[tabas]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Great sites, I can see a lot of e-games that is happening around the world and it can really make your life more easy on choosing what games to bet for and what team you are with. Its normal to lose money, its inevitable and you must ready for that, if you just think that you did everything to analyze the game and yet you still lose then maybe luck was not on your side the moment you place your bet.

Yes, that site is one of the major source of roster, tournaments and updates on the e-sports world.

Still this will not be worth it because betting in esports will not matter on the players that play the game. What matter is your interest in the game and you have followed them always and you know the chances are when you bet in the sports they play and you like also. Just like in NBA to where I am not a good analyst but I know who were good teams that could have a higher chance on winning if there will be a betting event to happen.

The players doesn't matter who play's the game? I think that's wrong. The players are the ones that who dictates the game.

[Caladonian]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

The best way to make money from sport betting is deep analysis about the game you are going to bet,the success maybe depends on players and their form still its a game so low performing team also can win the game miracly.

There's always chances even with low performing teams as long as they understand the game, they will be able to win against much prefer teams, if you want to have some edge reading and watching previous games by those teams that you are tailing is really essential to have some knowledge  how they can overcome their opponents there's no sure bets just a little advantage when you full knows the players or teams that you are betting with.

[crwth]

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There's always chances even with low performing teams as long as they understand the game, they will be able to win against much prefer teams, if you want to have some edge reading and watching previous games by those teams that you are tailing is really essential to have some knowledge  how they can overcome their opponents there's no sure bets just a little advantage when you full knows the players or teams that you are betting with.

With most of the underdogs playing in different sports it is hard to determine whether or not they have a chance to win especially if the odds are really against the tide.  I’m not sure how you are going to determine how the team can manage to beat a strong opponent and predicting that would be really hard in my opinion.

The disadvantage of this is that even if you know everything the statistics,  average points per game (Depending on the sports), and many more. There is no assurance with a decision that is built in prediction just luck.

[mindrust]

Never ever bet on a game which plays between the league leader and the tailender.

These games are often result in draw or the leader loses. Even if the leader wins it not worth the risk because the profits are too small.

You just can't make a sensible choice on these games.

Always make your bets way before the league closes. this will eliminate the chances of getting fixed/cheated games because every team will be playing to get points. After most things are settled, teams might sell their game for money. It happens.

[Johnzky]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I believe that theres no way to get a perfect winning bet in sports gambling and you can really win that easy

Though there are big chances if you choose the ability’s and advantages of each player or team

Just like the champions or those former champions that has a good skills in each sports they are engaging

[pixie85]

You should only bet on games that you understand and follow. Don't bet on unknown teams just based on the odds at a given time because you don't want to rely on other people's predictions. Rely on yourself and your game experience. If you don't play CS and don't watch games live, don't bet on CS games, choose dota or lol or whatever it is that you are playing yourself.
Esports tend to be more predictable than normal sports. Usually teams that are good are good all throughout the tournament.

[vintages]

I still don't think there is any easy trick or tips for esport betting or any other better. It's just the same with the others and only requires you constantly practices to finally become good at it. Even aside online gambling, offline gambling also requires you to keep practicing till you become perfect good at it.

[FlightyPouch]

I still don't think there is any easy trick or tips for esport betting or any other better. It's just the same with the others and only requires you constantly practices to finally become good at it. Even aside online gambling, offline gambling also requires you to keep practicing till you become perfect good at it.

Constant practices? No. We are talking about esports betting here. It is a competition of professional gamers on various online games. It is like sports betting but you are betting on online games. You don't need practice, you need the same as sports betting, analyzation skills. You just need to analyze the team or player that you will be putting your bet. I bet sometimes on my team on some Dota 2 majors though one of the player I am rooting is now on leave so it is really bad.

[NavI_027]

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How make money on betting on esports? This is just the same talking on how to win any gambling game but the fact that gambling can be categorize in 2 things.Luck-based and strategic ones and esports is belonged
on strategic ones which means studying or knowing the teams past history and performance would be a great factor that can help out to make your decision. Why would bet on a team if you do saw
that their stats isnt so good compared to others?

So are you saying that it is easier to win in strategic games rather than lucky based ones? I guess the answer for that is a yes (Ah! I made the right choice). Actually, after hours of researching for types of games where I can gamble, Sports betting is I mostly prefer because I think that it will not be hard for me to adapt since I'm already a sports fanatic. I also know how to analyze each teams and predict who will win thus helping me to always win every time I bet. The remaining things I need to do is to search for a legit gambling site and get to know of its technical rules or how the whole game works and I'm ready to start my journey as a gambler.

[ralle14]

You should only bet on games that you understand and follow. Don't bet on unknown teams just based on the odds at a given time because you don't want to rely on other people's predictions. Rely on yourself and your game experience. If you don't play CS and don't watch games live, don't bet on CS games, choose dota or lol or whatever it is that you are playing yourself.
Esports tend to be more predictable than normal sports. Usually teams that are good are good all throughout the tournament.

Playing the game gives you an advantage in some way but you don't need to play each game to follow the competitive scene of esports. If you plan on betting at a certain tournament all you really need to understand is the objective of the game and gather all information you can find on the teams participating.

May i know where do you watch your favorite team live?? where do you stream?

Most tournaments are streamed on twitch sometimes it's on facebook or youtube. Why are you asking this question though you don't have to stream to bet on esports.

[Janation]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

I also visit this site most of the time checking on new players joining on majors.

Some of the informations that you might see here is not that updated but it is reliable. I've been visiting this site since I've found out Miracle is leaving team OG after the biggest upset of TI6. I am not gambling myself though in the past, I am doing some bets on DotaLounge where I bet some of my Dota 2 virtual items. It is best if you know a lot of things to the teams that you will be betting in since that will really help you a lot on esports betting.

[dupee419]

eSports is a very broad matter, and if you are to bet on it then you should pick  a game that you completely understand, I've got some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know which is much better and which has the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who will win, MOBA games are one type of eSports that is completely unpredictable, so basically you should know how and who to place your bets on every single match because anything can happen.

[Ross.Thoms27]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Still this will not be worth it because betting in esports will not matter on the players that play the game. What matter is your interest in the game and you have followed them always and you know the chances are when you bet in the sports they play and you like also. Just like in NBA to where I am not a good analyst but I know who were good teams that could have a higher chance on winning if there will be a betting event to happen.

I think star players are the ones that carries the game, just like in dota and other moba games, all teams have their own star player without them the team is missing a one piece of a puzzle.

[tabas]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Still this will not be worth it because betting in esports will not matter on the players that play the game. What matter is your interest in the game and you have followed them always and you know the chances are when you bet in the sports they play and you like also. Just like in NBA to where I am not a good analyst but I know who were good teams that could have a higher chance on winning if there will be a betting event to happen.

I think star players are the ones that carries the game, just like in dota and other moba games, all teams have their own star player without them the team is missing a one piece of a puzzle.

There's no star player in a 5v5 game IMO. All of them are important but there's role for each player. Support, carry,core,etc. and all of them plays a very important role and if someone gets the attention of a being called as a "star player" by their fans it's because of a great performance.

[Caladonian]

An advice to you, check https://liquipedia.net/ and compare the players and see their achievements though they have been growing old and pro players do also lose but if its for the stats, you can get info there.

Still this will not be worth it because betting in esports will not matter on the players that play the game. What matter is your interest in the game and you have followed them always and you know the chances are when you bet in the sports they play and you like also. Just like in NBA to where I am not a good analyst but I know who were good teams that could have a higher chance on winning if there will be a betting event to happen.

I think star players are the ones that carries the game, just like in dota and other moba games, all teams have their own star player without them the team is missing a one piece of a puzzle.

There's no star player in a 5v5 game IMO. All of them are important but there's role for each player. Support, carry,core,etc. and all of them plays a very important role and if someone gets the attention of a being called as a "star player" by their fans it's because of a great performance.

In the sense of playing you are right, but in controlling the entire game leaders guidance are very important, each rules is very important in winning the game and with proper coordinations and good leadership teams will be able to defeat their opponents and able to snatch the win, I don't know if he meant about leaders in terms of star players.

[crzy]

eSports is a very broad matter, and if you are to bet on it then you should pick  a game that you completely understand, I've got some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know which is much better and which has the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who will win, MOBA games are one type of eSports that is completely unpredictable, so basically you should know how and who to place your bets on every single match because anything can happen.

Yeah, do gamble on the games that you understand. If you do love to play Dota then betting on that game can be a good one since you can understand everything in play, and you can know which is team is ahead. E-sport betting is quiet more profitable compare to casinos games since the probability to win is very high.

[Oceat]

If you like some tips, look at the odds of the team that you are betting. Read some news, sometimes news tells what is the difference between their opponent but if you can't find good shilling news then look at the odds of number betting on that team. There are no such tricks in esports betting, you have to find your luck in it.

[shoreno]

eSports is a very broad matter, and if you are to bet on it then you should pick  a game that you completely understand, I've got some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know which is much better and which has the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who will win, MOBA games are one type of eSports that is completely unpredictable, so basically you should know how and who to place your bets on every single match because anything can happen.

Yeah, do gamble on the games that you understand. If you do love to play Dota then betting on that game can be a good one since you can understand everything in play, and you can know which is team is ahead. E-sport betting is quiet more profitable compare to casinos games since the probability to win is very high.

did you actually read the above comments ?  the guy above you said that moba games are totally unpredictable even if you choose the best teams because moba games like dota is a game of skills and strategy where anything impossible can happen  . even if a team is already loosing they can still posibly turn the tides and make an epic comeback . this are the reason why i hate betting on moba games because i cant secure my victory pretty easy  .  

i rather go for cs go and other fps because these kind of games are fast paced  and the chance of making a comeback is fairly slim  .

[The Cryptovator]

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

First answer is no, I don't know about any easy methods for earning money. Its whatever way esposrt betting or gambling. All the way isn't easy to earn by the way. Obviously morale is important on such as money earning way. Believe or not but I believe on luck especially betting and gambling. Ofcourse you need well experienced to play such as game. If you beginner and just play and want earn lot then I don't think it's possible. Just try with small capital first and try to learn as well. If favour your luck then you can take risk with good fund. Take care about that there is no shortcut or easy way to earn money.

[tabas]

In the sense of playing you are right, but in controlling the entire game leaders guidance are very important, each rules is very important in winning the game and with proper coordinations and good leadership teams will be able to defeat their opponents and able to snatch the win, I don't know if he meant about leaders in terms of star players.

Yes, there are coaches too I almost forgot their roles and they are giving the players tips on how to play and give comments to their performances. Playing DotA2 is now intense and it's a real sport unlike before, there are specific roles that has been added such as analyst,subs,etc.
And a bettor should always account the situation of these events if there's handicap or roster change.

[nydiacaskey01]

There are those who post their daily picks here, from football to basketball, there are even those who post their picks based on the country where they are located. But there are those who are bad at their picks, I don't want to name names but hes thread did not even lasted for up to 3 pages and he gave up and did not post again, so better look at the stats too, how well are they doing in their picks.

[yegorzima]

Thanks everybody for those tricks they are really useful. I bet quite often and I prefer to bet on sport and games. On MidBet  there are 2 teams and only one of them win it's even better than just common one betting. You may bet on CS:GO DOTA 2 and PUBG

[AmoreJaz]

I think there's no easy way of learning to make correct picks, you basically have to know exactly how the games work and you need to know intricate details about the players/teams.
I've made some successful picks in the past, on Starcraft for example, just because I'd been following one particular player while he was trying to move up the ladder.

I'd noticed that his game seemed a little bit off and decided to bet against him when he was playing against a slightly weaker opponent.
My gut feeling ended up being correct, since I made a nice profit from that game.

It's little stuff like this that you should take notice of.

small details that will help you decide which pick will give you higher chance of winning.
a good strategy though. knowing your pick well is really a good advantage.
you cant get that from someone else's point of view but its only you who know such detail.
and for others, it doesnt matter. but it really does!

[tabas]

Thanks everybody for those tricks they are really useful. I bet quite often and I prefer to bet on sport and games. On MidBet  there are 2 teams and only one of them win it's even better than just common one betting. You may bet on CS:GO DOTA 2 and PUBG

Please stop spamming that website of yours.

[yegorzima]

Thanks everybody for those tricks they are really useful. I bet quite often and I prefer to bet on sport and games. On MidBet  there are 2 teams and only one of them win it's even better than just common one betting. You may bet on CS:GO DOTA 2 and PUBG

Please stop spamming that website of yours.

I don't spam I just advice people good sites and that's it

[fortebettor]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

My betting guidelines?

• Never play for more than 1% of your total savings.
• Never deposit less than 4 years into bookmakers on the market
• Use the advice of good typists preferably in closed areas
• Always be up to date
• Don't listen to the majority
• Think for yourself

[omonuyak]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

The esport discussion is taking over this forum. I have read so many of posts and comments on this esport of a thing. I will like to asked if it is game or purely to gambling on sport. I believe many of us did not really know what esport stand on and a good explanation will do well and we that did not no much will be educated. God bless you!

[RivAngE]

I don't know how did you revive an old thread, but it's an intesting subject nonetheless!

I believe eSports are similar to conventional sports in most aspects. But if you want to guess the winner, the teams' previous achievements are not as important as in sports.

For example - and depending on the game - a great team can lose against an average team because the average team is exceptionally good with a weird combo that is considered overall average, but the "great team" is taken by surprise and don't know how to play against it.

So... There are a lot of things to take into consideration.

[fortebettor]

I am looking for good sources such as in this thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/comments/cqp69y/any_good_esports_sites/
There are a lot of statisticians and video. There are a lot of streams and a lot of good content. Do you have anything?

https://www.esports.com
https://www.g2esports.com/
https://www.gamespot.com
espn.com/esports/
https://esporttalk.org/
https://www.toornament.com
https://www.hltv.org
warcraft3.info
https://glhwar3.com

[fortebettor]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

The esport discussion is taking over this forum. I have read so many of posts and comments on this esport of a thing. I will like to asked if it is game or purely to gambling on sport. I believe many of us did not really know what esport stand on and a good explanation will do well and we that did not no much will be educated. God bless you!

That depends. Here are completely different factors that come into play. You can have access to a restricted zone with bettings insiders, e.g. here but you can also participate in open discussions. The question is, what do you get out of it if you play like most and rely on the information that most people have? So then I think it's pure gambling and entertainment in itself. However, if you skillfully use data and I have knowledge that someone else doesn't have. The answer is no. You can win the same thing regularly, but it's not easy.

But thanks for the good question!

[TheCoinGrabber]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

[fortebettor]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

That's a good point. Now the question. What do you use ? What information do you need? Do you read the first better newsletters?

[carter34]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

That's a good point. Now the question. What do you use ? What information do you need? Do you read the first better newsletters?

The thing about single game is that, they take a lot of money if you want to bet on them. You have to use a lot of money on it so that the odd and reward will increase a little. Usually, single games have lower odds and that makes the risk higher because you want to play with much money

[fortebettor]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

That's a good point. Now the question. What do you use ? What information do you need? Do you read the first better newsletters?

The thing about single game is that, they take a lot of money if you want to bet on them. You have to use a lot of money on it so that the odd and reward will increase a little. Usually, single games have lower odds and that makes the risk higher because you want to play with much money

the general rule is to play for a maximum of 1% of the total free budget

[GatotKaca]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

I myself do not know a game site that can make money because I have never tried it, but I often take poker and casino gambling sites that can earn up to 50% more. I myself still study it before deciding to join in it.

[Oilacris]

I don't know how did you revive an old thread, but it's an intesting subject nonetheless!

I believe eSports are similar to conventional sports in most aspects. But if you want to guess the winner, the teams' previous achievements are not as important as in sports.

For example - and depending on the game - a great team can lose against an average team because the average team is exceptionally good with a weird combo that is considered overall average, but the "great team" is taken by surprise and don't know how to play against it.

So... There are a lot of things to take into consideration.

One of the best trick in e-sports gambling is your ability to anticipate and predicts your opponents’ trick. This is something we study in games theory and works pretty well. If you are able to do so, you would be able to come up with something that blocks his next moves. In such a way, you would have an edge over your opponent. Experience also counts a lot.

Experience does really count when it comes to e-sports yet analyzing does really need it combining with those factors to consider. E-sports is pretty unpredictable too just like on what we have seen on a typical sports.

Tricks and tips? Just play or bet knowledgeably on which team is much better yet you can see it on its previous stats.

[xvids]

I don't know how did you revive an old thread, but it's an intesting subject nonetheless!

I believe eSports are similar to conventional sports in most aspects. But if you want to guess the winner, the teams' previous achievements are not as important as in sports.

For example - and depending on the game - a great team can lose against an average team because the average team is exceptionally good with a weird combo that is considered overall average, but the "great team" is taken by surprise and don't know how to play against it.

So... There are a lot of things to take into consideration.

One of the best trick in e-sports gambling is your ability to anticipate and predicts your opponents’ trick. This is something we study in games theory and works pretty well. If you are able to do so, you would be able to come up with something that blocks his next moves. In such a way, you would have an edge over your opponent. Experience also counts a lot.

Experience does really count when it comes to e-sports yet analyzing does really need it combining with those factors to consider. E-sports is pretty unpredictable too just like on what we have seen on a typical sports.

Tricks and tips? Just play or bet knowledgeably on which team is much better yet you can see it on its previous stats.

I agree when it comes to e-sports or even in sports the only way to know where to bet is to analyze their player and their stats of course the experience on the field would be highly needed.
I suggest pick on an e-sports that you also play so you would be familiar to the teams and their history.

[omonuyak]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

That's a good point. Now the question. What do you use ? What information do you need? Do you read the first better newsletters?

The thing about single game is that they take a lot of money if you want to bet on them. You have to use a lot of money on it so that the odd and reward will increase a little. Usually, single games have lower odds and that makes the risk higher because you want to play with much money

If the assurance is there that when you put in huge amount in single trade you will win then it worth it to me. What matter is having the odd in your favor and the chance of you winning will definitely increase. It is better to avoid gambling if you know putting in Little amount of funds will make you keep losing.

[joshy23]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

That's a good point. Now the question. What do you use ? What information do you need? Do you read the first better newsletters?

The thing about single game is that, they take a lot of money if you want to bet on them. You have to use a lot of money on it so that the odd and reward will increase a little. Usually, single games have lower odds and that makes the risk higher because you want to play with much money

The odd is small whenever the winning chances is higher, if you are aware and very confident that the game you pick can generate you a win then even in small odd it's far better than risking with higher odds but the winning chance is very low, small profits is good if you have continuous run and you have a good sets of goals that you can achieve each time you play the game that you fully understand.

[iMark]

Focus on a single game and then review past tournaments. Check out the teams that have participated to see their winning ratio then follow them online to find whether which teams might participate at any certain event. Also follow individual players in each to know if they'll be in the lineup. That should at least give you an idea on how they'd fare and which is the more skilled team.

That's a good point. Now the question. What do you use ? What information do you need? Do you read the first better newsletters?

I think he has answered the question you said. what information you need is of course what is related to the team that competes, starting from the line-up of players who will be deployed during the match, some last matches on the 2 teams, intrigue what happens between both teams, there are many other things. and that is what you must see before making the choice to bet.

[fortebettor]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

I myself do not know a game site that can make money because I have never tried it, but I often take poker and casino gambling sites that can earn up to 50% more. I myself still study it before deciding to join in it.

I think it's a healthy approach. How to play is only for pleasure. Never with a desire for profit. It's always better to play less but know what to play. That's why it's worth to use good websites or discussion forums about games, esport, etc.

[fortebettor]

You are more likely to benefit from e-sports betting, if you choose the right betting site, do your investigation and track your returns.
Do not bet on chain logic which means for example if FaZe beat Na'vi and Na'vi beat Fnatic don't think that this make FaZe favourites against Fnatic. Their map pools and styles may not match up that good against other opponents. 

I think there is no easy way to choose a match with the right type.

There are a lot of details to pay attention to. But most often it was my hunch that gave me a good profit for a given match. The most important thing. You need to know the game 100% perfectly!

[TheUltraElite]

I think there is no easy way to choose a match with the right type.

Obviously if it was so easy then the esports betting scene would not be so huge. Bookies make a lot of money such these games and thus they have the money to promote them too. It is a flourishing business just like any other casino and the bookie is the winner here.

There are a lot of details to pay attention to. But most often it was my hunch that gave me a good profit for a given match. The most important thing. You need to know the game 100% perfectly!

Even then you can lose a match which you thought you would win. Remember that many matches are fixed and the players are told to play in a manner that makes people bet on them but they staged to lose the match. So you can get an idea how nicely these games are fixed, and if you get that insider info you can win big too, but make a wrong bet and lose a lot too.

[TimeTeller]

I think there is no easy way to choose a match with the right type.

Obviously if it was so easy then the esports betting scene would not be so huge. Bookies make a lot of money such these games and thus they have the money to promote them too. It is a flourishing business just like any other casino and the bookie is the winner here.

There are a lot of details to pay attention to. But most often it was my hunch that gave me a good profit for a given match. The most important thing. You need to know the game 100% perfectly!

Even then you can lose a match which you thought you would win. Remember that many matches are fixed and the players are told to play in a manner that makes people bet on them but they staged to lose the match. So you can get an idea how nicely these games are fixed, and if you get that insider info you can win big too, but make a wrong bet and lose a lot too.

Esports betting is one of the few gambling games that actually need your knowledge regarding the sport to have high chances of winning.
If you are a loyal supporter of a particular sport and is a follower for so many years, you know by now the chances of winning of every player or every team per match.
Unless, as stated above if the match is already fixed, it is difficult to win in that situation. But if you know a reliable insider tip, of course there's no doubt the winning is high.
So I believe the there's really no magic formula in esports betting, you should know the sport by heart to have a good advantage in this game.

[STT]

In depth knowledge helps alot and also the thing I found understated many times for the games is the context of the game.   How much does this game actually matter to those two teams, sometimes its no longer important.  If its a league match and the points from the win or loss no longer give them advantage then they are playing because they have to, its just a contractual obligation.   Sure they attend but they probably also stayed up half the night, did no practice and are making no special effort.   In many esports actual strats and prep for the game count, many teams can wing it on their vast experience in the game but it can end up as as lacking.     Then the underdog has a chance, the team which has a case to prove and will raise awareness for themselves taking out a big name even though its a minor match.
   Its not just the teams or even the players, its the framework to the game both leading upto and in consequence of the result.   You have to acknowledge all factors in likely performance.

[shoreno]

Esports betting is one of the few gambling games that actually need your knowledge regarding the sport to have high chances of winning.

sport ? no its not sport . esport is a video game and i dont think that your knowledge matter because you will not be the one that will be playing , your only betting therfor luck is the only thing you need the most .

If you are a loyal supporter of a particular sport and is a follower for so many years, you know by now the chances of winning of every player or every team per match.

thats true but it does not simply work at all times because unfamilliar teams can sometimes win the game unexpectedly . this is why i said earlier that luck is important   .

idk if there are really known tips for esport betting but i think they are the same as on what other bettings do  . you just need to go on what majority is voting ,

[Ryker1]

[snip]
idk if there are really known tips for esport betting but i think they are the same as on what other bettings do  . you just need to go on what majority is voting ,

Well correct, just follow the majority vote and usually they will win. Because gamblers know which best. Well, the same as the normal sports, Esports betting is gambling so maybe the tricks are that before you bet you must check first the history of the team so that you can assure that you will have a higher chance of winning. But if you believe in luck sometimes they are useful not just a tricks.

[nydiacaskey01]

One thing I noticed about esports betting is example its an MMA fight or a Boxing match and the schedule is still a month or 3 weeks from fight date, you will notice that the odds are different from the odds at the day of the fight it self, so if you think your fighter or player will win, place your bet as early as you can as odds changes. Example is the Thurman vs Pacquaio fight, Manny was the underdog 3 weeks before the fight but as fight draws closer, tables are turned and it turned out Thurman is the underdog on the day of the fight it self.

[btc-facebook]

a good strategy is when we have detailed information about each player or team in the match,
the information we obtain must be detailed, such as abilities, strengths, weaknesses, etc., must be possessed,
after that see many possibilities and we cone,
and after that I am sure you will make the right decision and victory can be easily achieved,
even though sometimes our losses can be due to many unexpected events after the match begins.

[fortebettor]

a good strategy is when we have detailed information about each player or team in the match,
the information we obtain must be detailed, such as abilities, strengths, weaknesses, etc., must be possessed,
after that see many possibilities and we cone,
and after that I am sure you will make the right decision and victory can be easily achieved,
even though sometimes our losses can be due to many unexpected events after the match begins.

Where do you get such details from? Are these open sources like gosugamers or rather closed like esporttalk?

Strengths and weaknesses, Sounds good. But how to guess the player's real dispositions and not just the form of the day?

[rachman mahesa]

a good strategy is when we have detailed information about each player or team in the match,
the information we obtain must be detailed, such as abilities, strengths, weaknesses, etc., must be possessed,
after that see many possibilities and we cone,
and after that I am sure you will make the right decision and victory can be easily achieved,
even though sometimes our losses can be due to many unexpected events after the match begins.

What you say, I totally agree.
And the most important thing is indeed information regarding players in the match. With that we will easily bet on eSports. Strengths and weaknesses in each team are needed, so we can take advantage of this condition to see which team is stronger.

[jakoylantern]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

For me, there are no tricks in esports betting (if you are considering the 100% win rate) there will be only tips. In sports betting, you should analysis the teams very well especially the teams that you are betting, like what is good about the team A conferred to team B, the strength and weakness of each side, and also the odds. I usually bet in esports and in my experience if the game is not that serious or crucial try to bet on the high odds or underdogs because the profitable rate is much higher compared to the other team and also, I’m always lucky when I do that kind strategy, but I make sure that I review the units. In that case, you will profit well if you get lucky and if the game is serious/ semi-finals- finals make sure to bet on the time that you trusted the most because that moment each team is doing their best to win. 

[tumis]

Lol. I didn't expect so many interesting posts here. Thanks for all the tips , GJ

[Ranly123]

I think in esports, there is no tricks to consider since only do what they have to do and that is to win. I believe that choosing a talented team has a higher chance of winning that choosing randomly.

[jake zyrus]

I don't think there's a trick... But as for the tips, it's better to know the player or the team. The history of their winning and such (for both teams). In esports betting, you don't just based on your intuition. If you know the players really well, you have the high possibility of knowing who would win based on their strengths and capabilities. You don't bet on something you don't know.

[qwertyup23]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

Esports betting has been growing over the past years with the games having increased prize pool depending on its reputation on the market. Just to cite one example, Dota 2 has recently broke the record of having the most expensive prize pool ever reaching $30 million dollars as the prize money! So imagine the numbers and the amount of people currently invested in the game.

Betting Esports is actually easy than you thought it would be. There are gambling websites that cater to esport betting. If you also play the game, there are certain websites that lets you gamble your in-game items.

[tumis]

I don't think there's a trick... But as for the tips, it's better to know the player or the team. The history of their winning and such (for both teams). In esports betting, you don't just based on your intuition. If you know the players really well, you have the high possibility of knowing who would win based on their strengths and capabilities. You don't bet on something you don't know.

Okay, but how do you know exactly how each player's dispositions work? You can know a few players very well, two teams to see what's going on but not more. Unless you believe in everything that is written in the news.

[nydiacaskey01]

Okay, but how do you know exactly how each player's dispositions work? You can know a few players very well, two teams to see what's going on but not more. Unless you believe in everything that is written in the news.

Of course you don’t believe in everything that is written in the news, some of them are even paid to commend a player or a team, but what we can do is gather the news available and compare what they are saying about the player or the team. If let’s say 5 news agency with 5 different writers are all giving good feedback about a team then maybe they are a good team to pick, but still check the background of those writers as well.

[tumis]

Okay, but how do you know exactly how each player's dispositions work? You can know a few players very well, two teams to see what's going on but not more. Unless you believe in everything that is written in the news.

Of course you don’t believe in everything that is written in the news, some of them are even paid to commend a player or a team, but what we can do is gather the news available and compare what they are saying about the player or the team. If let’s say 5 news agency with 5 different writers are all giving good feedback about a team then maybe they are a good team to pick, but still check the background of those writers as well.

So here, similarly like in an ordinary sport, we need to trust our own intuition. Sometimes some small inconspicuous information is enough and the experience and ability of good analysis and recognition will do its job.

Certainly I do not have a golden prescription.

[Vispilio]

I'm also curious about this,

I guess it helps a lot if you have at least some knowledge of the game so can make an educated guess about some outcomes.

Game like Dota2 can be appealing for example where you get to bet on individual players; I would assume certain talented players typically outshine, so bets offering points for the top performing players etc would have reasonably good odds of being predicted correctly...

If anyone is into esports arbitrage or can recommend the most favorable betting platforms for esports, that would be very interesting.

[tumis]

I think in esports, there is no tricks to consider since only do what they have to do and that is to win. I believe that choosing a talented team has a higher chance of winning that choosing randomly.

There's no trick or any sort of that in e-sports. The difference between betting in sports and e-sports isn't really far. What you do in betting sports with your favorite teams that has a strong roster is just the same as betting with e-sports.

I've mentioned this already, you just have to know the game that you are betting. The current news about changes or situation of the team that will play is a must.

This is why i looking for closed zone like old inside bettor , punter closed or memosbets insider group for soccer , basket, hockey , balcan volley etc etc .It is close to https://esporttalk.org/ but this forum is young and also there is not as many info like in soccer , basket world etc. This is why is certaing poblem i think. 2 problem is that there is many othes factors and in my opinion we got mhch more influuce for good prediction and cant do much more job to preddict it. For example https://www.gosugamers.net/  is full of great information, but it's all based on the same thing. So either some transfer, or some weak matches, weak map. Change of coach. etc.

Is the condition (form of other players) all we have in fact?

[TheUltraElite]

Esports betting is one of the few gambling games that actually need your knowledge regarding the sport to have high chances of winning.

Incorrect. It is same as any other EV+ game like sports betting or poker. Your skills would matter but luck also matter.

If you are a loyal supporter of a particular sport and is a follower for so many years, you know by now the chances of winning of every player or every team per match.

True but it is also true that a video game may end up on the wrong side your calculation just by any chance.

Unless, as stated above if the match is already fixed, it is difficult to win in that situation. But if you know a reliable insider tip, of course there's no doubt the winning is high.

Reliable insider tips are rare and it needs a person to pay the proper person or team member. It can be profitable if you know the news but fixing is very common and those who do it are pros at it so its not easy to detect during the match, which may cost you the bet.

So I believe the there's really no magic formula in esports betting, you should know the sport by heart to have a good advantage in this game.

Research is always important but like I said above, luck plays a role here too.

[fortebettor]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

Esports betting has been growing over the past years with the games having increased prize pool depending on its reputation on the market. Just to cite one example, Dota 2 has recently broke the record of having the most expensive prize pool ever reaching $30 million dollars as the prize money! So imagine the numbers and the amount of people currently invested in the game.

Betting Esports is actually easy than you thought it would be. There are gambling websites that cater to esport betting. If you also play the game, there are certain websites that lets you gamble your in-game items.

The fact that betting is easy is something everyone knows. But it's not about making it easy for you, it's about making more sense. Because when you play and lose, you get nervous.

And when you play and win but don't know why you also start to get frustrated. The thing is to understand why you played the game the way you wanted and why the team played the game the way you expected. What made the game different from what it was before.  It is not obvious

[TimeTeller]

I think in esports, there is no tricks to consider since only do what they have to do and that is to win. I believe that choosing a talented team has a higher chance of winning that choosing randomly.

There's no trick or any sort of that in e-sports. The difference between betting in sports and e-sports isn't really far. What you do in betting sports with your favorite teams that has a strong roster is just the same as betting with e-sports.

I've mentioned this already, you just have to know the game that you are betting. The current news about changes or situation of the team that will play is a must.

Knowledge of the teams involved is really a big factor in esports.
The approach is similar with sports betting. You should know the sports well to have an advantage on this.
Luck might have a role, but knowing every bit of the team is a big plus in winning.
I guess that is a simple trick to get an advantage in these betting games.

[GreatArkansas]

I have a short story about eSports betting.

I have this friend who is into eSports recently, which is a Dota 2 game. Back in the days, where he is only betting with his items on Dota 2 which it has value in US Dollar($).
He is really owning before, he even used his profits on gambling to pay his tuition fees on college.

I asked him how he did it and how he become owning and most of the time is winning with profits.
He answered me, "You need to focus, bet only on those game that you know".
Then I really agree to him since he is also one of the best Dota 2 players in our circle of friends, so no doubt if he knows how to analyze every team and fights in Dota 2.

In short, it much better to bet on what you know, especially in games, eSports or non-eSports.

[Oasisman]

I have a short story about eSports betting.

I have this friend who is into eSports recently, which is a Dota 2 game. Back in the days, where he is only betting with his items on Dota 2 which it has value in US Dollar($).
He is really owning before, he even used his profits on gambling to pay his tuition fees on college.

I asked him how he did it and how he become owning and most of the time is winning with profits.
He answered me, "You need to focus, bet only on those game that you know".
Then I really agree to him since he is also one of the best Dota 2 players in our circle of friends, so no doubt if he knows how to analyze every team and fights in Dota 2.

In short, it much better to bet on what you know, especially in games, eSports or non-eSports.

Knowing the game, players, and deep match up analysis is the key for a successful bet. Sometimes, I was wondering if its some sort of a "talent", that youre not only good in gaming, but youre also good in looking at the match up heroes ( specifically Dota2 ). I was one of those who placed a bet using mythical items with good market values before, but Im not as successful as your friend.

[milewilda]

I'm also curious about this,

I guess it helps a lot if you have at least some knowledge of the game so can make an educated guess about some outcomes.

Game like Dota2 can be appealing for example where you get to bet on individual players; I would assume certain talented players typically outshine, so bets offering points for the top performing players etc would have reasonably good odds of being predicted correctly...

If anyone is into esports arbitrage or can recommend the most favorable betting platforms for esports, that would be very interesting.

Its always been ideal to have at least some idea or knowledge into things you are engaging into.E-sports bet it no different when it comes to typical physical sportsbetting which you would need up at least idea on the team or on the game.Familiarize players do really give you some considerable odds towards it rather than having no idea on which one to select on.
Ive been playing Dota 2 and some esports games.This isnt only giving you out some idea but also you can typically enjoy the game since you do understand it.

[sunsilk]

I have a short story about eSports betting.

I have this friend who is into eSports recently, which is a Dota 2 game. Back in the days, where he is only betting with his items on Dota 2 which it has value in US Dollar($).
He is really owning before, he even used his profits on gambling to pay his tuition fees on college.

I asked him how he did it and how he become owning and most of the time is winning with profits.
He answered me, "You need to focus, bet only on those game that you know".
Then I really agree to him since he is also one of the best Dota 2 players in our circle of friends, so no doubt if he knows how to analyze every team and fights in Dota 2.

In short, it much better to bet on what you know, especially in games, eSports or non-eSports.

Nice story about your friend, he's right there's no need to have some sort of special strategy in betting. Since Dota 2 is a game that is between two teams only, you've got the 50% chance of winning already.

But knowing who are the teams and players playing then this is where the odds will start to change. Starting from tier 3 up to tier 1 teams, you can have an idea if you mostly watch their games and replays.

[Polar91]

I think in esports, there is no tricks to consider since only do what they have to do and that is to win. I believe that choosing a talented team has a higher chance of winning that choosing randomly.

Every team or player is talented. They wouldn't be competing against to each other if they aren't match. If it's a team sports, we should tend looking for a team play chemistry rather than seeking for who has the best player. We are also betting on a team or a player based on their win rate, previous matches, and of course their nationality in which it doesn't guarantee a 100% of odds to win; that's the challenge of esports betting.

[Blackdeath]

I think in esports, there is no tricks to consider since only do what they have to do and that is to win. I believe that choosing a talented team has a higher chance of winning that choosing randomly.

Every team or player is talented. They wouldn't be competing against to each other if they aren't match. If it's a team sports, we should tend looking for a team play chemistry rather than seeking for who has the best player. We are also betting on a team or a player based on their win rate, previous matches, and of course their nationality in which it doesn't guarantee a 100% of odds to win; that's the challenge of esports betting.

Sometimes, a player can carry his team thus we can not neglect the fact that a team with a very talented player even if he's only one who is very talented among them all, their team has more probability to win. We all have different considerations in choosing which team we choose; that's the reason why esports betting becomes very exciting and enjoyful.

[xSkylarx]

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

There is no stable profit in sportsbetting unless you can predict the outcome. Those sports analysis are just some tips to help you decide where you should bet your money on. When I do sportsbetting I just bet on the team I really like.

[Ranly123]

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

There is no stable profit in sportsbetting unless you can predict the outcome. Those sports analysis are just some tips to help you decide where you should bet your money on. When I do sportsbetting I just bet on the team I really like.

That's right. In fact, esports is just easy to predict when you really know the game and who the players are. Mostly those team with a player with high ranking in the game are considered a strong team so placing our money to them is a good idea.

[Oasisman]

I have a short story about eSports betting.

I have this friend who is into eSports recently, which is a Dota 2 game. Back in the days, where he is only betting with his items on Dota 2 which it has value in US Dollar($).
He is really owning before, he even used his profits on gambling to pay his tuition fees on college.

I asked him how he did it and how he become owning and most of the time is winning with profits.
He answered me, "You need to focus, bet only on those game that you know".
Then I really agree to him since he is also one of the best Dota 2 players in our circle of friends, so no doubt if he knows how to analyze every team and fights in Dota 2.

In short, it much better to bet on what you know, especially in games, eSports or non-eSports.

Knowing the game, players, and deep match up analysis is the key for a successful bet. Sometimes, I was wondering if its some sort of a "talent", that youre not only good in gaming, but youre also good in looking at the match up heroes ( specifically Dota2 ). I was one of those who placed a bet using mythical items with good market values before, but Im not as successful as your friend.

That's alright if we're not successful yet, what's very important is you've been enjoying the game. Esports betting is fairly drawing real time results, and I think this a reliable gaming experience for all gamblers whose fun in sports. Being good in gaming isn't a serious case here, as long as you're learning great; lucky outcomes will follow through.

Youre correct, but I already quitted Dota2 for about 6 years now. I havent been following the tournaments that much, which I dont think I have the deep knowledge from the game the way I used to since there were a lot of changes made in the game. From new items, new heroes, and new additional skills attribute.
Who knows I might get interested again in watching tournaments and start from the scratch, though I dont have the luxury of time to play the game again (too much work load in my day job lol) and bet from the favorite teams, and this time its different coz we're betting with cryptos.

[fortebettor]

That's the big minus.
Contrary to appearances, it is impossible to get to know the game completely at all times.

There are new patches and changes and that's what causes problems.

Unless it's Counter Strike , then it's like in case of football - the game is on the same rules almost all the time. but no for dota , lol and many more games

[TheUltraElite]

That's right. In fact, esports is just easy to predict when you really know the game and who the players are. Mostly those team with a player with high ranking in the game are considered a strong team so placing our money to them is a good idea.

I disagree with your point of esports being "easy bets". No gambling game in the world is easy. Even if you are really good at the game, gambling on a outcome of a game is also based on a lot of other factors. You need to know the team members and if the matches are fixed all your predictions could go wrong. eSports is more like a fixed version of any other physical game, its just promoted and gamebois are just too excited to join in it forgetting that the age old laws of gambling still apply to it but really who cares about the money?

Analysis of the game will help you but the outcome of the game can be due to a lot of luck factor.

[The Cryptologist]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

So you are into Esports then my assessment is to look closely at the player's or team's standing. The most popular esports are in the shooting or FPS genre and you can already tell who has great chances of winning by checking their past games on their youtube channels or tournaments. But sometimes people will just bet on the player because they like him as a person or they idolized them.

[ethereumhunter]

That's right. In fact, esports is just easy to predict when you really know the game and who the players are. Mostly those team with a player with high ranking in the game are considered a strong team so placing our money to them is a good idea.

No, esports will not be easy to predict if you don't know anything

At least, you need to know what their chance to win. If they really can win easy, I think many people will place the bet to them. Sometimes team with a player with low or middle ranking can beat the high ranking because they have a strategy to defeat the strong team. So it still difficult to predict when you cannot get to know for each team.

[Ailmand]

The odds of winning in sports betting than any gambling game is higher because you can use analysis, your knowledge and information about the team and sports, and experience in choosing which team has better odds in winning. There is no complete guide, just familiarize your self about the game itself and the team that is on the selection.

[bellicose]

In my opinion, there are simply no tricks in this environment. Unable to trick the system. There is only luck in betting, because quite often defeat of obviously weak teams by strong ones occurs. This is tantamount to trading and a casino. No one will just give you money.

[xSkylarx]

~snip

Sports betting is a form of gambling so there is no strategy or techniques that really works. It's still based on luck though it works different compared to other types of gambling games.

~snip

That can be considered as tips but for tricks imo it doesn't really exist in the world of gambling. Sometimes in sports betting what you didn't expect happens. If you're lucky that time you win, if not then move on and don't attempt to recover your loss.

[Quidat]

I have a short story about eSports betting.

I have this friend who is into eSports recently, which is a Dota 2 game. Back in the days, where he is only betting with his items on Dota 2 which it has value in US Dollar($).
He is really owning before, he even used his profits on gambling to pay his tuition fees on college.

I asked him how he did it and how he become owning and most of the time is winning with profits.
He answered me, "You need to focus, bet only on those game that you know".
Then I really agree to him since he is also one of the best Dota 2 players in our circle of friends, so no doubt if he knows how to analyze every team and fights in Dota 2.

In short, it much better to bet on what you know, especially in games, eSports or non-eSports.

Knowing the game, players, and deep match up analysis is the key for a successful bet. Sometimes, I was wondering if its some sort of a "talent", that youre not only good in gaming, but youre also good in looking at the match up heroes ( specifically Dota2 ). I was one of those who placed a bet using mythical items with good market values before, but Im not as successful as your friend.

That's alright if we're not successful yet, what's very important is you've been enjoying the game. Esports betting is fairly drawing real time results, and I think this a reliable gaming experience for all gamblers whose fun in sports. Being good in gaming isn't a serious case here, as long as you're learning great; lucky outcomes will follow through.

Youre correct, but I already quitted Dota2 for about 6 years now. I havent been following the tournaments that much, which I dont think I have the deep knowledge from the game the way I used to since there were a lot of changes made in the game. From new items, new heroes, and new additional skills attribute.
Who knows I might get interested again in watching tournaments and start from the scratch, though I dont have the luxury of time to play the game again (too much work load in my day job lol) and bet from the favorite teams, and this time its different coz we're betting with cryptos.

Same here yet we do have already different priorities in life now which would not able for us to engage some things that we are fan of.
Im also a dota player but i do play once or twice on a month depending on my schedule and vacant time and talking about betting
tricks and trips will always depend on your analysis and research because even if you arent a fan of something- having a look on its current stats
will already give you out the idea.

[Sweetbtc]

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

There is no stable profit in sportsbetting unless you can predict the outcome. Those sports analysis are just some tips to help you decide where you should bet your money on. When I do sportsbetting I just bet on the team I really like.

Also there is no way to predict the perfect team who will win. No matter how good your analytical powers are, there is always a chance that you may lose if the other team played well on the day.

[marcuslong]

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

[Ucy]

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

There is no stable profit in sportsbetting unless you can predict the outcome. Those sports analysis are just some tips to help you decide where you should bet your money on. When I do sportsbetting I just bet on the team I really like.

Also there is no way to predict the perfect team who will win. No matter how good your analytical powers are, there is always a chance that you may lose if the other team played well on the day.

I think you can actually predict the outcome of a football match and other skill-based games. I believe if you dedicate a lot of time and resources in analyzing/understanding two teams you could accurately predict their match by about 60%.
You will have to know/understand how they trained, their health, fitness, mental state, the condition in their families, what they eat, drink etc. It will take alot of time and resources to understand this things.

[nelson4lov]

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

How has that turned out to be so far? I think on average only 2 of 10 situations that underdogs in any fixture wins. I haven't tried betting that that kinda risk before. It's more like throwing money away without the slightest hope of getting it back.

For me, I just like toying with lower risk. I even double chance of the top dogs to win just to be on the safer side. Well, My success rate has improved significantly even if the rewards aren't much.

[mekar sari]

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

How has that turned out to be so far? I think on average only 2 of 10 situations that underdogs in any fixture wins. I haven't tried betting that that kinda risk before. It's more like throwing money away without the slightest hope of getting it back.

For me, I just like toying with lower risk. I even double chance of the top dogs to win just to be on the safer side. Well, My success rate has improved significantly even if the rewards aren't much.

Esport betting is not only about Win and Lose. Let see DotA betting for example, there's many type of betting here not only Win or Lose. for example we can also bet for total kill for each team, Aegis, Barrack and many more.

[abel1337]

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

Same ideology, I prefer risking on lower odds than higher because of the high return that I can get. Of course, having research is a must, If I see the potential on the underdogs I will trust it and hoping they will win the game.

There are too many games that make an upset by defeating by underdogs and sometimes underdogs win the whole tournament. For example the TNC on WESG 2018 tournament, TNC got the biggest upset on the whole Dota 2 tournaments.

[leowonderful]

How has that turned out to be so far? I think on average only 2 of 10 situations that underdogs in any fixture wins. I haven't tried betting that that kinda risk before. It's more like throwing money away without the slightest hope of getting it back.

For me, I just like toying with lower risk. I even double chance of the top dogs to win just to be on the safer side. Well, My success rate has improved significantly even if the rewards aren't much.

Betting on the underdog only really works out if there's a legitimate chance that the underdog could win based on extremely recent performance or one or more of the players on the overdog team are sick and replaced by a coach or something of the sort. I've won plenty of times betting on the underdog of a Counter-Strike match based on coaches subbing in for players on a roster that can't play, though I also mostly bet on the overdog because most of the time it just makes sense to do so. It's indeed relatively high risk, but one win can net you extremely high rewards as well.

[stephanirain]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

There are a lot of stats you can use like the gaming history of the players but in the end, it is gambling. Some people ignore those stats because the team if their favorite. Some bet on this specific team because they think the team has stronger line up than their opponent. Esports betting is difficult because either team could "comeback" and take the lead any time during the game.

[sunsilk]

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

Sometimes I do that too, betting on underdogs doesn't guarantee profit but it's worth risk taking. I only do this if I see that the opponent is beatable by the underdog and depends on the roster/players arrangement too.

That plays an important factor whenever we bet with e-sports. There's always a catch when I bet and it's also thrilling whenever I watch those games especially with Dota 2 for which the majors and minors are at hand. And right now, I'm starting to follow csgo games.

[Reatim]

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting.

Yeah also I don’t believe in tricks or tips unless the game was fix(issues that going for long time now in sport games)

I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why?

I love the thrill when underdog is our bet because people mostly give sympathy to the lower profile than the high one so we tend to bet or favor to the underdog

Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

Well in this we are different because I don’t really want take advantage of the situation instead I only want to feel the thrill of almost a loser 😂

[CodyAlfaridzi]

Betting on the underdog only really works out if there's a legitimate chance that the underdog could win based on extremely recent performance or one or more of the players on the overdog team are sick and replaced by a coach or something of the sort. I've won plenty of times betting on the underdog of a Counter-Strike match based on coaches subbing in for players on a roster that can't play, though I also mostly bet on the overdog because most of the time it just makes sense to do so. It's indeed relatively high risk, but one win can net you extremely high rewards as well.

Me too. I'm actively betting on big tournament matches. Betting on the underdog is favorable especially on Best-of-one (BO1) matches. In a BO1, upsets often happen due to the nature of the game itself. A full-eco pistol can defeat full buy, a misplaced utility grenade can ruin the whole round, these sorts of things that make the game exciting to watch.

Looking forward to the first round of Dreamhack Masters Malmo. It's a BO1 and I already have some bets placed. Nice odds on some matches. I also have made two outright bets on Astralis and EG to win the tournament. Let's see how it'll turn out.

[TheUltraElite]

There are a lot of stats you can use like the gaming history of the players but in the end, it is gambling. Some people ignore those stats because the team if their favorite. Some bet on this specific team because they think the team has stronger line up than their opponent. Esports betting is difficult because either team could "comeback" and take the lead any time during the game.

What you say is similar to any other sports betting. You do analysis on the team, think about environmental factors that could change the outcome and see what condition the team mentality is before you place a bet. Or some people like to get a tip from the bookies as a small investment on what fixing may be occuring in the game.

Esports are not free from cheating/fixed matches. You have to be lucky here or you will lose a lot of money betting on the team which you thought would win but was a bluff.

[tumis]

Betting on the underdog only really works out if there's a legitimate chance that the underdog could win based on extremely recent performance or one or more of the players on the overdog team are sick and replaced by a coach or something of the sort. I've won plenty of times betting on the underdog of a Counter-Strike match based on coaches subbing in for players on a roster that can't play, though I also mostly bet on the overdog because most of the time it just makes sense to do so. It's indeed relatively high risk, but one win can net you extremely high rewards as well.

Me too. I'm actively betting on big tournament matches. Betting on the underdog is favorable especially on Best-of-one (BO1) matches. In a BO1, upsets often happen due to the nature of the game itself. A full-eco pistol can defeat full buy, a misplaced utility grenade can ruin the whole round, these sorts of things that make the game exciting to watch.

Looking forward to the first round of Dreamhack Masters Malmo. It's a BO1 and I already have some bets placed. Nice odds on some matches. I also have made two outright bets on Astralis and EG to win the tournament. Let's see how it'll turn out.

Do you think that for a team like Astralis such a tournament in Malmo is very important ?

[CodyAlfaridzi]

Do you think that for a team like Astralis such a tournament in Malmo is very important ?

DH Malmo was obviously a top tier event: attended by most top 10 with a direct invite to Katowice 2020 for the champion. Astralis is trying to reclaim the #1 spot after missing in the first half of 2019 by only attending Blast Pro Series (lol). They're currently looking primed to keep that spot right now, judging by their performance in IEM Beijing, but the scene is getting even more competitive as teams like Fnatic, FaZe, and 100Thieves are keeping up.

[fortebettor]

Do you think that for a team like Astralis such a tournament in Malmo is very important ?

DH Malmo was obviously a top tier event: attended by most top 10 with a direct invite to Katowice 2020 for the champion. Astralis is trying to reclaim the #1 spot after missing in the first half of 2019 by only attending Blast Pro Series (lol). They're currently looking primed to keep that spot right now, judging by their performance in IEM Beijing, but the scene is getting even more competitive as teams like Fnatic, FaZe, and 100Thieves are keeping up.

hmn

"Only" $100,000 in prizes for first place.
Now it's not much for Astralis

In Katowice in a few months  there is 2.5 more for the best team

[CodyAlfaridzi]

"Only" $100,000 in prizes for first place.
Now it's not much for Astralis

Money isn't the only thing that matter especially for a big team like Astralis. As I said, it matters because most of the top teams attend the event, it is part of the Intel Grand Slam circuit, offering a direct invite to next year IEM Katowice, and there are many more reasons. It's more than just money.

In Katowice in a few months  there is 2.5 more for the best team

Exactly, that's why events like Malmo are important even though the money prize is only $100,000 for the first place.

[fortebettor]

Money isn't the only thing that matter especially for a big team like Astralis. As I said, it matters because most of the top teams attend the event, it is part of the Intel Grand Slam circuit, offering a direct invite to next year IEM Katowice, and there are many more reasons. It's more than just money.

You're right, in fact.

Just now tell me what Intel Grand Slam is - a lot of different information on the web, a lot of tournaments. Even more confusion.

It's where everything is described in the simplest way possible? And shouldn't it be so that the victory of the previous edition in e.g. IEM Katowicie should have a guaranteed place next year and so?

Why is it so confusing? Which rankings count and which ones don't? For example, the hltv ranking - is it taken into consideration in any tournaments?

[CodyAlfaridzi]

Why is it so confusing? Which rankings count and which ones don't? For example, the hltv ranking - is it taken into consideration in any tournaments?

https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Intel/Grand_Slam/3

No, I don't think any tournament use HLTV ranking system. ESL have their own ranking, you can see it here https://pro.eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo/. They use their own ranking system for seeding and later in ESL One Cologne 2020 for determining which teams got direct invite.

[fortebettor]

Why is it so confusing? Which rankings count and which ones don't? For example, the hltv ranking - is it taken into consideration in any tournaments?

https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Intel/Grand_Slam/3

No, I don't think any tournament use HLTV ranking system. ESL have their own ranking, you can see it here https://pro.eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo/. They use their own ranking system for seeding and later in ESL One Cologne 2020 for determining which teams got direct invite.

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

[CodyAlfaridzi]

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

[Assface16678]

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

If you are trying to bet on exports betting games better you must love the game first because you may not win your bet if you just know the statistics of the team better you know the skills and the story of the player to make sure they know how to play and mind games their opponents, one of the excellent way to learn in esports is watching live streams and best play of the different teams. There are a lot of websites and analyzing applications that support their users to gain more information about the team and the players, and by this data, you use where is the safest to bet all of your coins.

[fortebettor]

 analyzing applications that support

Which applications do you mean exactly?
and what statistics, apart from the obvious one ( like h2h etc..)  ??

[Oilacris]

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

If you are trying to bet on exports betting games better you must love the game first because you may not win your bet if you just know the statistics of the team better you know the skills and the story of the player to make sure they know how to play and mind games their opponents, one of the excellent way to learn in esports is watching live streams and best play of the different teams. There are a lot of websites and analyzing applications that support their users to gain more information about the team and the players, and by this data, you use where is the safest to bet all of your coins.

Come to think that statistics would always matter on these kind of betting just like on a typical physical sports bet.The only thing i do like is that if you do able to know the game
you are watching you would really have the fun on seeing it rather than betting randomly without even knowing on whats the game is all about.

Also, there are new rosters or switch ups of teams thats why you do need to have updated list on current line up because this is one of the factors that some made mistakes into their bets
because they arent informed nor updated.

[fortebettor]

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

If you are trying to bet on exports betting games better you must love the game first because you may not win your bet if you just know the statistics of the team better you know the skills and the story of the player to make sure they know how to play and mind games their opponents, one of the excellent way to learn in esports is watching live streams and best play of the different teams. There are a lot of websites and analyzing applications that support their users to gain more information about the team and the players, and by this data, you use where is the safest to bet all of your coins.

Come to think that statistics would always matter on these kind of betting just like on a typical physical sports bet.The only thing i do like is that if you do able to know the game
you are watching you would really have the fun on seeing it rather than betting randomly without even knowing on whats the game is all about.

Also, there are new rosters or switch ups of teams thats why you do need to have updated list on current line up because this is one of the factors that some made mistakes into their bets
because they arent informed nor updated.

I agree and I will add more. I think that in esporting to learn about the game, the guesser can have a much greater advantage than in traditional sport. After all, nowadays, sometimes a young man knows more and better about a given game than an old man. Such are the times when everyone can know everything and nothing. And I doubt that bookmakers can keep up with it. It's better to adjust the odds to market fluctuations and that's it. So if somebody wants to, they can profit from it.

[Bitcoinislife09]

There are a lot of stats you can use like the gaming history of the players but in the end, it is gambling. Some people ignore those stats because the team if their favorite. Some bet on this specific team because they think the team has stronger line up than their opponent. Esports betting is difficult because either team could "comeback" and take the lead any time during the game.

What you say is similar to any other sports betting. You do analysis on the team, think about environmental factors that could change the outcome and see what condition the team mentality is before you place a bet. Or some people like to get a tip from the bookies as a small investment on what fixing may be occuring in the game.

Esports are not free from cheating/fixed matches. You have to be lucky here or you will lose a lot of money betting on the team which you thought would win but was a bluff.

Tournament seems fair to and specifics team as we know are trained by their country to representing their country in the esport tournaments.
Surely this kind of betting could be a great game but still, we cannot predict who is going to win in a tournament I think what we could do is just think of the strongest team,
But surely we cannot get all of the accurate information from every team.

[Debonaire217]

It is quite simple, you should be the one to run the betting game for the esports for you to surely earn some money out of it. Try to stream live games and build a community for you and the people so your viewers will be the players and with this regard, no matter this players win or lose, you could still have some percentage of each of their bets.

[djsugar]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

Esports betting is like any other gambling where you can not really assure a win , however hard you may try. The good thing about the sports betting is that it is less luck based as compared to other gambling games like card or arcade games. Many players who follow their sports diligently often bet in sports betting and earn good reward. The good way to minimize your loss in sports betting is to know the team you are betting on and also know their strengths and weaknesses with respect to other team .

[Sahyadri]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

I feel the only trick to win most in sports betting is to follow the sports you are betting in diligently and be a true follower. The people with passion for the sports get their predictions right , sometimes they get it wrong too but the negative probability is comparably low. To make worthfull predictions , follow the sports, watch expert reviews channels , follow blogs and forums talking about the match. Also there are some sites I follow to know more like bet365.com and espn.com

[crairezx20]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

You have the point you can know if who will win if you are following their games and analyze how they play like on League of legends or Dota 2.
If you are not following them and just choose any of the team you like without checking the background well your winning rate will be also random.

Since eSports is base on skills always check their team gameplay and decide which team is worth to bet.

[nydiacaskey01]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

This is true and it is applicable not only on esports but on all kind of games. I can’t imagine betting on a game that you don’t know or understand and just rely on odds or word of mouth. Even if its just boxing where you will choose only between 2 fighters, you still need to know the background of the fighters. In esports, knowing their background is important. You might want to look at when was the last time they lost and to whom because if they are going to face that team again, chances are the results will be the same.

[STT]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

[KnightElite]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

There are a lot of analysis that we need to know in order to win in Esports betting. Before you place a bet you need to know who's underdog and who's have upper hand. I often bet in dota 2 and I have high win rate because I always identifying the strength and the weaknesses of the team before I bet my money. 

[Sanugarid]

I think there's no easy way of learning to make correct picks, you basically have to know exactly how the games work and you need to know intricate details about the players/teams.
I've made some successful picks in the past, on Starcraft for example, just because I'd been following one particular player while he was trying to move up the ladder.

I'd noticed that his game seemed a little bit off and decided to bet against him when he was playing against a slightly weaker opponent.
My gut feeling ended up being correct, since I made a nice profit from that game.

It's little stuff like this that you should take notice of.

In this situation, all you need is prior knowledge and skills in gambling. Experience is the best tips for everyone who wants to try esports betting. We should be wise and also be we should be brave in everything what we do. Ot takes guts for us to earn some money more and dont stop of you lose one time.Try and try until you get satisfied.

[shoreno]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

There are a lot of analysis that we need to know in order to win in Esports betting. Before you place a bet you need to know who's underdog and who's have upper hand. I often bet in dota 2 and I have high win rate because I always identifying the strength and the weaknesses of the team before I bet my money. 

thats nice . would you not mind sharing some of your tips next time  ? i also love dota 2 but i cant say to my self that im an expert on it when it comes to betting because the old players and teams where now replace by the newer ones   .  in short , im only familiar on the older teams before like navi , navi dendi , sumail and other popular ones   . i know thier favorite hero so i think i also have a higher chance to win if ever they will play again and if its supported by a gambling betting site  .

[Shimmiry]

Betting on esports isn't that easy. You must learn first how the game works and everything about it. Then, you must be also learning the recent gameplays of those players or team you are trying to bet as it affects your bet very much. Why? Because games and plays are constantly changing with different patches and so do the players, hence you must be knowledgeable first before gambling.

[Meowth05]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

There are a lot of analysis that we need to know in order to win in Esports betting. Before you place a bet you need to know who's underdog and who's have upper hand. I often bet in dota 2 and I have high win rate because I always identifying the strength and the weaknesses of the team before I bet my money. 

That is the right thing to do I guess. Knowing the limitations and the capabilities of a those team would be a better to do because this will be your guide on what team you are going to place your bet. Looking for match history could be helpful as well. And if you have some knowledge about the game then I am pretty sure that you are already aware who is in upper hand and who is the underdog.

[DevilSlayer]

We should identify first what game in esports that we are going to bet. If we finished to identify, we should have knowledge about the game. Pick carefully on what team or on who's player that we are going to bet. We should be aware in his/her strength and weaknesses for us to have bias on what going on. Knowing the information about the team members can help us to have wise decision in esports betting.

[White Christmas]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

Actually my way on betting E-Sport, Dota2 and csgo specifically are very simple. I am doing background checking first and what are their team ranks in all over the world and especially the players if the players are consistent in playing and winning such maps for the csgo. In Dota2 I have been able to identify who's the strongest team by just identifying the players on both sides or teams because I am used to be a dota2 player so I already know on how what gameplay is the most played by the team and if it is good strategy or not. Sometimes I am also based on the team coach because sometimes the coach was very good in terms of tactics and that helps the team to win.

[Golftech]

Betting on esports isn't that easy. You must learn first how the game works and everything about it. Then, you must be also learning the recent gameplays of those players or team you are trying to bet as it affects your bet very much. Why? Because games and plays are constantly changing with different patches and so do the players, hence you must be knowledgeable first before gambling.

The very basic knowledge that a gamblers needs to acquire before going to this gambling activities. Knowing the atmosphere of the game and how things are being played, then understanding all the advantages from the types of players that you are eyeing to place your bets. With this knowledge you can start enhancing your skills in picking the right sets of teams to support and followed.

[senne]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

I feel the only trick to be succesful in sports betting is to follow the sports you are betting in with passion. Know pre game and post game information which are readily available on expert review channels on television and online. There are sites to bet in sports which also provide post match analysis which can help you with upcoming game and make your move. You can also follow blogs and forums which provide such expert reviews and opinions.

[TheUltraElite]

Because games and plays are constantly changing with different patches and so do the players, hence you must be knowledgeable first before gambling.

Some matches are fixed too. Even eSports is not free from these things. Of course doing your analysis on the teams and players and how they have fared previously on similar games will point you towards a conclusion, there will always be some luck factor involved and every game may not end up as your predicted it to be. Still more or less the top gamers are not going to win every game because they are often paid by bookies to run their game and they ask for some matches to get fixed.

Its like a part of the system. I am sure people have read about the story of "Daredevil" and thats how bad it can become when someone refuses to fix the match.

[sportbettor]

Here you can find the Rating of TOP E-Sports Bookies: http://100bookies.com/e-sports-bookies-eng/

[hahay]

Esports betting I think we just need to choose the more popular team, maybe that will only give low odds but at least by playing it safe the chances of winning are very big despite the fact that it doesn't really guarantee it, but by knowing the game being played and what kind of team they are against, maybe that's just the most basic way for us to do it.

[owengtam09]

For me, there is no easy way to make money in every kind of gambling games, it is just that we must know how to play the game and wait for your luck for you to win because sometimes even if how professional you are in gambling you may still lose at the end. For me, there is no proportional way or a proper way for us to win it is now our strategy to be more strategize for us to win.

[Oilacris]

For me, there is no easy way to make money in every kind of gambling games, it is just that we must know how to play the game and wait for your luck for you to win because sometimes even if how professional you are in gambling you may still lose at the end. For me, there is no proportional way or a proper way for us to win it is now our strategy to be more strategize for us to win.

When it comes to strategic games then it wont really be that simple to win if you arent familiar on the teams on that particular sport but there are people who do just bet blindly with just basing or tailing others suggestion or tips.When it comes to tricks theres no such thing but all things matter with experience and knowledge for you to sustain or last long into this betting field. Typical sports or esports they are just the same on the sense
where you would bet on a particular team on whose gonna win and with some other lines or options.

[TheUltraElite]

For me, there is no easy way to make money in every kind of gambling games,

Of course, otherwise things would be too easy to earn. There needs to be something in the system to prevent you from winning too much otherwise the casino would go bankrupt. These are things like luck in an EV- game and EV+ games to some extent.

it is just that we must know how to play the game and wait for your luck for you to win because sometimes even if how professional you are in gambling you may still lose at the end.

Well talking about sports and eSports in particular, you have to understand that matches can be fixed in many ways and often bookies are aware of those. Some of the big tech companies are hosting these events and they act like the mafia there. So whatever you bet on, know that losses are going to happen.

For me, there is no proportional way or a proper way for us to win it is now our strategy to be more strategize for us to win.

There is no such thing. Its called gambling for a reason.

[turkandjaydee]

Still more or less the top gamers are not going to win every game because they are often paid by bookies to run their game and they ask for some matches to get fixed.

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'? I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

[TheUltraElite]

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'?

Not specifically a certain game, but in general.

I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.

How are you sure? Do you have any proof and would like to show it or tell about it?

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

eSports still seem much easier to fix. In a real match where players are sweating and beating each other up, primal emotions become more obvious, impulsiveness and anger often fuel a player to forget his promise to the bookie to lose the match and may end up doing something rash which may lead to a win. Chances that the big whale who paid the team to take part in fixing ends up going South.

Thats what I have felt in game, but play acting is also possible so you may have a point worth discussing too.

[Janation]

Here you can find the Rating of TOP E-Sports Bookies: http://100bookies.com/e-sports-bookies-eng/

Thanks for that, I needed it.

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that I mentioned before.

We don't know what is happening behind that curtain.

All we know is that these professional players do their best to take home this prize money. In Dota 2, there are a lot of players getting banned because of this, and they really regret they did it. For me, it is not that less but a lot of things proved that fixing is not a thing anymore. In the past, we can only see the games being played, right now we can see how players evolve and rage in a tournament showing their regrets when they commit mistakes.

[Yatsan]

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'?

Not specifically a certain game, but in general.

I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.

I'm a fan of Esports and never heard any of fixed match game, if these cases are true then might as well provide a solid proof that supports your claim even on less known tournament because it will be an Esport scandal that every fan must know. As a player, a hoping player to get better in a game who is dreaming to get into a world stage and show off my skills, selling my gameplay is just another way of me robbing myself.

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

eSports still seem much easier to fix. In a real match where players are sweating and beating each other up, primal emotions become more obvious, impulsiveness and anger often fuel a player to forget his promise to the bookie to lose the match and may end up doing something rash which may lead to a win. Chances that the big whale who paid the team to take part in fixing ends up going South.

Thats what I have felt in game, but play acting is also possible so you may have a point worth discussing too.

I have to disagree on you, fixing an Esport game is way harder to do than the other games since it will not only need  a single person to fixed the game but the whole team, whole brand of the team including their sponsors. Fixing a game is not a one man job, this already tells us that Esports scene is authentic and true to its passion.

I know several players who cheated on international stage, Esports is not rigged and they kicked them out.

[batang_bitcoin]

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

[stomachgrowls]

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Im aware on these bans but these do happen on leagues or on small scale and as mentioned
"This article is a list of players banned from various notable establishments, e.g. leagues, anti-cheat systems and Valve events."
All is on match fixing and been mixed up some racial language too but these are only on small ones.
Rigged on majors and the international? I dont think so and also on big stages when a certain team does have a sign of selling out
the game then you can actually notice if youre a big fan of this.

[STT]

Rigged on majors and the international?

People do influence the major competitions by cheating in the qualifiers.   But also it has been known for the most successful pro players in a particular area or country to be using cheats.   Valve I know has become alot more paranoid about this possibility by conducting checks and literally watching gameplay as it occurs on each team members computer.    At the same time esports is a modern phenomena, in the past there was far less chance to receive an actual wage hence the temptation to sell off your participation to betting gangs who dictate the outcome ahead of time.    
   I've got no doubt cheat and throwing does still occur but its far less and I believe caught far earlier on, its mostly down to tournament organiser to ensure integrity to the game and they have everything to lose if seen to be lacking.

[batang_bitcoin]

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Im aware on these bans but these do happen on leagues or on small scale and as mentioned
"This article is a list of players banned from various notable establishments, e.g. leagues, anti-cheat systems and Valve events."
All is on match fixing and been mixed up some racial language too but these are only on small ones.
Rigged on majors and the international? I dont think so and also on big stages when a certain team does have a sign of selling out
the game then you can actually notice if youre a big fan of this.

STT is right, there are qualifiers for the majors and international for which they take advantage of it before. But now that it has became a daily living for the professional players, they don't want to bet and risk their careers with the fix matches. But I still think for the small leagues there are fix matches that happens as long as it's on the bookies. I think I just used the wrong verb, instead of "were" I've used the "are", well that's on my part so apologies with that. Before it wasn't a big thing if the players get involved with it because they were not expecting that majors and internationals will be big as it is right now.

[TitanGEL]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

[Fundamentals Of]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

If you make bets on sports betting and Esports and you don't know the teams and their games, you are simply like betting on a toss coin. That is a total waste of your money. Also, how could you enjoy your bet if you don't even know the teams playing and the game itself? An exception perhaps is if you have a reliable source with almost perfect prediction record. I might even bet if that is the case.

[rodskee]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

If you make bets on sports betting and Esports and you don't know the teams and their games, you are simply like betting on a toss coin. That is a total waste of your money. Also, how could you enjoy your bet if you don't even know the teams playing and the game itself? An exception perhaps is if you have a reliable source with almost perfect prediction record. I might even bet if that is the case.

even if he bet like in a toss coin yet this is gambling yet?so there will
always a chance to win of lose and that is the way how gambling works,
but that is also indeed that we can have a big chance of winning if we
 knew the team well because you can analyze what is the outcome of
 each game(but of course those are only by chance and not assurance)
also this is the reason why many gamblers now are diverting their habit
 from other games to SportsBetting and i am also one of those.

[bobyhodob]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

You right , so if we know what game and what team will we bets on its easy
And sometime we have can take a good market odds when machine just predict with underdog match

[Fundamentals Of]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

If you make bets on sports betting and Esports and you don't know the teams and their games, you are simply like betting on a toss coin. That is a total waste of your money. Also, how could you enjoy your bet if you don't even know the teams playing and the game itself? An exception perhaps is if you have a reliable source with almost perfect prediction record. I might even bet if that is the case.

even if he bet like in a toss coin yet this is gambling yet?so there will
always a chance to win of lose and that is the way how gambling works,
but that is also indeed that we can have a big chance of winning if we
 knew the team well because you can analyze what is the outcome of
 each game(but of course those are only by chance and not assurance)
also this is the reason why many gamblers now are diverting their habit
 from other games to SportsBetting and i am also one of those.

It is one thing to bet with analysis and it is another to just make a bet without knowing anything. Yes, this is gambling and we will still end up on either the winning or the losing side but it definitely helps if you know what you are betting.

[Latviand]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

The tip to win in the sport betting is deep analysis about the players and squad which may give an idea about winner but not for sure.Institution based betting may not be fit for sport betting since it is strategy based we need to decide what will happen while the matches are going.

Guaranteed way for making money in the sport betting is match fixing but it is illegal to do.

A matter of knowing the capabilities of the players you would bet into is a must. Betting on the team just because the majority told you to do so, would more likely result to regrets because in such aspect, it will all be because of the hype. Watching their previous games will be more advantageous than to listen to the majority and to decide for your own. On the other hand, in order to make it more profitable, be mindful of how much you would bet. If you are confident enough, betting all of your money still is not advisable because things could go possibly wrong. Bottomline is decision-making, analysis, and self control with regards to the bet.

[leea-1334]

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

This is precisely why I can never bet on esports. I'm not saying it's full of cheats or anything but I've heard stories from lower levels and seen myself in my country some of the local tournaments, where it's just full of deals and backdoor agreements.

Good to ban people for life from cheating. I absolutely hate it.

[TheUltraElite]

I have to disagree on you, fixing an Esport game is way harder to do than the other games since it will not only need  a single person to fixed the game but the whole team, whole brand of the team including their sponsors.

How can we not think of the possibility that the full team is behind the scenes rigging the match? They just need to play it one round to get their prize from the bookie, so they can have it all planned out. Like a top team losing a specific round in a certain match but they will win the match because the have not fixed the other rounds of that match. Certainly it can be that they are honest and not willing to do such things.

Fixing a game is not a one man job, this already tells us that Esports scene is authentic and true to its passion.
I know several players who cheated on international stage, Esports is not rigged and they kicked them out.

You may think that I am trying to force my opinion here but is it not true that youtubers and gamers have their complete career based on the companies that sponsor them? They are the mafia here who fix the matches and if you double cross them then their entire career is at risk. I am sure you are getting the point here.

[fortebettor]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks  but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

I feel the only trick to be succesful in sports betting is to follow the sports you are betting in with passion. Know pre game and post game information which are readily available on expert review channels on television and online. There are sites to bet in sports which also provide post match analysis which can help you with upcoming game and make your move. You can also follow blogs and forums which provide such expert reviews and opinions.

Do you know of any other similar sites like https://esporttalk.org with closed group ? . Best for different games like Counter Strike, League of legends, Dota but also Overwatch but also other new games? Do the new games have a chance to break through at all ? or is CS:GO the main one ?

[Janation]

It is one thing to bet with analysis and it is another to just make a bet without knowing anything. Yes, this is gambling and we will still end up on either the winning or the losing side but it definitely helps if you know what you are betting.

How about the people that supports a team?

It is not always the people that just bet with analysis and not with anything at all, there are also those people that bet on the team that they support, knowing their abilities or skill but without analyzing the opponent at all.

[FlightyPouch]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

You right , so if we know what game and what team will we bets on its easy
And sometime we have can take a good market odds when machine just predict with underdog match

It is really easy if we really know what we are doing, knowing where we need to put our money. There are some unexpected results, still the possibility is not that high of it happening every time. The first time I bet, it is usually on CSGO matches and there are a lot of upsets at that time, I usually bet on team with higher odds, unless the team I am supporting has the lower odds of winning.

[turkandjaydee]

How are you sure? Do you have any proof and would like to show it or tell about it?

What is this? It's like you accuse someone of stealing something but instead of you giving proof of their theft, you ask them to prove they didn't steal.

eSports still seem much easier to fix.

Did you actually include Dota 2 in those opinions of yours?
Because people can easily understand most of how sports like soccer/basketball works. But in a game like Dota 2, it's way more complex. Therefore, it's very difficult to fake things in this game without being noticed by others.

[fravia]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

[tumis]

I don't agree. There are many more factors in computer games that decide whether someone wins or not. Paradoxically, the machine calculates but the algorithm will not forgive any error. There are a lot of things here that can be repeated, like training itself.

[batang_bitcoin]

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

This is precisely why I can never bet on esports. I'm not saying it's full of cheats or anything but I've heard stories from lower levels and seen myself in my country some of the local tournaments, where it's just full of deals and backdoor agreements.

Good to ban people for life from cheating. I absolutely hate it.

It's painful to the side of the bettors because they are supporting a specific team, knowing that the team they are supporting is already accepted or designated to lose the game. This covers the whole betting platform for Dota 2 which includes item and also to those bookies which are the bets are into bitcoin. The punishment is hard and it's removing your whole career into the competitive scene if you are a pro player.

[tumis]

It's painful to the side of the bettors because they are supporting a specific team, knowing that the team they are supporting is already accepted or designated to lose the game. This covers the whole betting platform for Dota 2 which includes item and also to those bookies which are the bets are into bitcoin. The punishment is hard and it's removing your whole career into the competitive scene if you are a pro player.

Okay, but the worst part is that the players suffer from it. The bookmaker's not gonna want to pay.
All these companies have companies on some "honolulu" island and you don't really know how long they'll last and if they'll disappear with your money. Of course, I'm not talking about the cases of companies existing for 20 years on the market, but about all these "super bookmakers ever"

[panganib999]

Today with the use of sports betting many people wants to include the esports and one of the growing betting site is with the use of esports commonly with the use with the games like the defense of the ancients 2, league of legends, Fortnite and many more. Esports betting is one of the best matches today and also there are a lot of websites that support the team analysis it shows the stats of the team win rate, player analysis and records and by the data we can gather is we can use to find out which team will win the game.

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

This is precisely why I can never bet on esports. I'm not saying it's full of cheats or anything but I've heard stories from lower levels and seen myself in my country some of the local tournaments, where it's just full of deals and backdoor agreements.

Good to ban people for life from cheating. I absolutely hate it.

It's painful to the side of the bettors because they are supporting a specific team, knowing that the team they are supporting is already accepted or designated to lose the game. This covers the whole betting platform for Dota 2 which includes item and also to those bookies which are the bets are into bitcoin. The punishment is hard and it's removing your whole career into the competitive scene if you are a pro player.

Dota 2 is one of the best competitive game of all time today the valve or the pro scene if the world of dota now supports the use of esports betting like the gosugamers and odds of the winrate of the time and this is good because the viewers see the potential odds of winning of the team.

[fortebettor]

Today with the use of sports betting many people wants to include the esports and one of the growing betting site is with the use of esports commonly with the use with the games like the defense of the ancients 2, league of legends, Fortnite and many more. Esports betting is one of the best matches today and also there are a lot of websites that support the team analysis it shows the stats of the team win rate, player analysis and records and by the data we can gather is we can use to find out which team will win the game.

It's not that much. https://www.gosugamers.net/ with statistics? Okay, but they're not the highest flyers. What am I missing? Analyses and esports forecasts - ok there is https://esporttalk.org/ with betting tips and prediction but it's also a little bit short while; cool types and interesting information but it's not like in the world of football and other normal disciplines. Maybe it just takes time for something like https://www.flashscore.com/ or something like a transfermarkt to come into being. I don't really know if the betting and betting on esport at all can be similar to the current one. Maybe it's made on strength and you won't be able to make money from it at all. Oh, and let's not forget one thing. The black side of the medal. After all, here the risk of unfair matches is only high. What do you think?

[tumis]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

I only agree that you have no influence over the choice of map. You can possibly play live and gain an advantage here. But the live odds are already about 15 - 20% lower. So it's not mathetically worth it.

I think there's no easy way of learning to make correct picks, you basically have to know exactly how the games work and you need to know intricate details about the players/teams.
I've made some successful picks in the past, on Starcraft for example, just because I'd been following one particular player while he was trying to move up the ladder.

I'd noticed that his game seemed a little bit off and decided to bet against him when he was playing against a slightly weaker opponent.
My gut feeling ended up being correct, since I made a nice profit from that game.

It's little stuff like this that you should take notice of.

In this situation, all you need is prior knowledge and skills in gambling. Experience is the best tips for everyone who wants to try esports betting. We should be wise and also be we should be brave in everything what we do. Ot takes guts for us to earn some money more and dont stop of you lose one time.Try and try until you get satisfied.

I think that with this Starcraft example you've come to the heart of the problem and its solution. You have to focus on one small detail. One team, one player and watch him all the time. Only then can we have our own unique insider knowledge. Then we don't have to rely on the statistics and talking to most people that player XX won 80% and has XYZ statistics because these are trivialities and everyone knows it.

[Twinkledoe]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into.

[piwpafer]

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

For me, there are no tricks in esports betting (if you are considering the 100% win rate) there will be only tips. In sports betting, you should analysis the teams very well especially the teams that you are betting, like what is good about the team A conferred to team B, the strength and weakness of each side, and also the odds. I usually bet in esports and in my experience if the game is not that serious or crucial try to bet on the high odds or underdogs because the profitable rate is much higher compared to the other team and also, I’m always lucky when I do that kind strategy, but I make sure that I review the units. In that case, you will profit well if you get lucky and if the game is serious/ semi-finals- finals make sure to bet on the time that you trusted the most because that moment each team is doing their best to win. 

Do you have any specific stalls to choose the mismatched matches you write about? Maybe some programs? How do you estimate such matches? Because I don't think it's based on the results alone ??

Today with the use of sports betting many people wants to include the esports and one of the growing betting site is with the use of esports commonly with the use with the games like the defense of the ancients 2, league of legends, Fortnite and many more. Esports betting is one of the best matches today and also there are a lot of websites that support the team analysis it shows the stats of the team win rate, player analysis and records and by the data we can gather is we can use to find out which team will win the game.

It's not that much. https://www.gosugamers.net/ with statistics? Okay, but they're not the highest flyers. What am I missing? Analyses and esports forecasts - ok there is https://esporttalk.org/ with betting tips and prediction but it's also a little bit short while; cool types and interesting information but it's not like in the world of football and other normal disciplines. Maybe it just takes time for something like https://www.flashscore.com/ or something like a transfermarkt to come into being. I don't really know if the betting and betting on esport at all can be similar to the current one. Maybe it's made on strength and you won't be able to make money from it at all. Oh, and let's not forget one thing. The black side of the medal. After all, here the risk of unfair matches is only high. What do you think?

And where's no risk? You play it, you accept the risk. Generally, it's better not to play and after the problem. Unfortunately

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into.

Well, that's the rule for everything you're betting on. That's the principle to basically everything you do in your life. Either you know each other or you pretend to know each other and you don't have any of it.

[pixie85]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into.

I also felt like that but later realized that it's just an excuise. You don't have to know the game or play it to bet on it.

Look how many people bet on tennis without ever playing or watching the game. People bet on horse racing but they never do race, they just pick the one that has good odds or just the one they feel to be lucky.

[inthelongrun]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

[Mahanton]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

You cant blame them and its true that those words would mainly came from people who doesnt even know about those games existence thats why
they do still much preferred on betting to known sport rather than on e-sports yet we know it might sound sports but they do actually differ on the whole
concept.E-sports mainly focused on games of course yet theres no such thing about virtual basketball etc. .We cant differentiate the enjoyment
between real sports and with gaming.

[leea-1334]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

I can understand it at the lower levels. Some random guy can beat a good team on any day,,, and when you read about the scandals of cheating like guys who purposefully lose just to get some free money,,, then you know it is not wise to bet on a team game where even 1 guy sabotaging his team can be the difference.

There is a difference and why you cannot see 100x odds all the time in esports but there is in football.

[alani123]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment.

[inthelongrun]

And you guys don't think there aren't controversies on many sports? Mostly I am into DOTA2 betting. DOTA2 keeps breaking records yearly and its stake are even bigger than many other sports. I'd been a follower of many sports thru the years, especially during my early 20s. Boxing, basketball, soccer, mma and many more. I can say both are nearly the same. There are far more controversies on sports than e-sports I can say. Both have the same consequences if in case of losses. You think a bad NBA team cannot win against power house teams? You think Juventus can't lose to Verona? This is a very complicated issue and this won't end. So I would rather stop comparing them.     

[dexterto0]

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into.

I also felt like that but later realized that it's just an excuise. You don't have to know the game or play it to bet on it.

Look how many people bet on tennis without ever playing or watching the game. People bet on horse racing but they never do race, they just pick the one that has good odds or just the one they feel to be lucky.

You can't say it like that. Nobody plays what they never know. Unless a committed gambler who needs to be treated.

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

There's a minus for an esport The odds are smaller, or else the bookmaker's margin is higher

[Savemore]

In order to win in esports betting, it requires good fundamental analysis and researching skills. The player must aware about how the game works and also the traits of every team. I usually betting in Dota 2 and I often win because I always identifying the characteristics and also the level of the team plays of every team. Esports is not just game of luck, skills are also matter so we should bet carefully.

[abel1337]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment.

We can't do anything about match-fixing because it is what it is for them to bracket the esports team, I think that is unfortunate for some teams to fight a recent champion on the tournament within their brackets. As a better, it would be a safe decision if you bet on the highest probability team that would win a certain game but sometimes upset happens and some underdogs win unexpectedly. Like TNC who did the biggest upset on Dota history as defeating the biggest team on the tournament.

Miracles happen, do they?

[fullhdpixel]

In order to win in esports betting, it requires good fundamental analysis and researching skills. The player must aware about how the game works and also the traits of every team. I usually betting in Dota 2 and I often win because I always identifying the characteristics and also the level of the team plays of every team. Esports is not just game of luck, skills are also matter so we should bet carefully.

There is a big element of teamwork too, I mean there are teams who play such amazing teamwork and defeat individual geniuses. I can give you the example of recent win of Mousesports over Navi (Natus Vincere) where we all know guys like Simple, Electronic are massive giants but they failed when it came down to teamwork as we can see that Simple would get some kills but lack support from others. Kerrigan had a bad 1st map but their team still won because he as a leader did well and managed to hide personal bad timing on the game.

I am a big fan of esports and personally feel like the industry still needs a lot of exposure though and then with more exposure comes the problem of match-fixing and other problems.

By the way guys here is Navi vs Mouse I was talking about - https://www.hltv.org/matches/2339164/mousesports-vs-natus-vincere-ice-challenge-2020

[tbterryboy]

And you guys don't think there aren't controversies on many sports? Mostly I am into DOTA2 betting. DOTA2 keeps breaking records yearly and its stake are even bigger than many other sports. I'd been a follower of many sports thru the years, especially during my early 20s. Boxing, basketball, soccer, mma and many more. I can say both are nearly the same. There are far more controversies on sports than e-sports I can say. Both have the same consequences if in case of losses. You think a bad NBA team cannot win against power house teams? You think Juventus can't lose to Verona? This is a very complicated issue and this won't end. So I would rather stop comparing them.     

Controversies have always been there and in fact I remember there was a big controversy where some players were actually mining bitcoins in their PC that they were supposed to play games .

Now coming back to point, I am huge follower of League of Legends and my personal favorite of all time is - Faker the movement god!

E-sports to me has a huge future because the audience is already incredible in countries like Korea and China and it just needs more attention globally. Anyone who does not watch e-sports all I can say is that you are missing some serious fun.

[piwpafer]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment.

We can't do anything about match-fixing because it is what it is for them to bracket the esports team, I think that is unfortunate for some teams to fight a recent champion on the tournament within their brackets. As a better, it would be a safe decision if you bet on the highest probability team that would win a certain game but sometimes upset happens and some underdogs win unexpectedly. Like TNC who did the biggest upset on Dota history as defeating the biggest team on the tournament.

Miracles happen, do they?

Saying that nothing can be done with fixed matches is funny.

There are possibilities that anything can be done. Also, suppose that well in x years' time, every esports gamer can be observed 24 hours a day with a chip, etc., with your own consent.

Unreal But it would be possible ?

[coinfinger]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

These people have to make posts and they do it even when they have no knowledge about e-sports.

Let me tell you something about e-sports and why it is the future of gambling probably. There are players who we love and follow for example being a big CS:GO fan I love to follow guys like s1mple and Dupreeh who are for me the best players in CS:GO and therefore if we have knowledge about these players and we know which roster they are working with, it makes much easier to pick winners.

Moreover as we also play these games, it gives an amazing feeling because we can think of ourself what we would do in such situations, the clutches by our favorite players and the epic moments which unfortunately don't exist in real life sports betting.

[piwpafer]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

These people have to make posts and they do it even when they have no knowledge about e-sports.

Let me tell you something about e-sports and why it is the future of gambling probably. There are players who we love and follow for example being a big CS:GO fan I love to follow guys like s1mple and Dupreeh who are for me the best players in CS:GO and therefore if we have knowledge about these players and we know which roster they are working with, it makes much easier to pick winners.

Moreover as we also play these games, it gives an amazing feeling because we can think of ourself what we would do in such situations, the clutches by our favorite players and the epic moments which unfortunately don't exist in real life sports betting.

You're right, but just a little bit. You're talking about players that we seem to know who's working with whom and how. Who else is he supposed to play with? What do you compare it with? After all, we know that a given player always plays with a given player if there are no transfers, so basically nothing changes.

And you can't predict a drop in form or a bad day. There is little room for chance in escort. That's a fact. But it's not like traditional e-sport.

[BALIK]

I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

Some games obviously aren't 50/50, so I don't know why you would even say that.

Sometimes a team manages to get a couple fluke wins in a row and ends up in the finals. Sometimes players get substituted etc.

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

[Oasisman]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

[rexxarofmoknathal]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

That's why I prefer to stick with more basic E-sports titles where it's possible to work exactly what's going to happen.

CS:GO is definitely one of the easier ones to get into since the game is so basic. But DOTA and StarCraft have more going on, so there's more markets to bet on.

[piwpafer]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Okay, but there's the random factor you're talking about again. If it's a lot to choose the hero himself, you don't know how the draft will go. You don't know what composition the team will play or if it will be good. You're only gonna choose good picks or not. Later on you can play live but it's not the same because the odds are much lower. So what if there are many factors if we can't use them anyway because they are just random and depend on many things.

[TeslaMotors]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

And what does it really come down to? Up to the amount of the prize pool, that is, the money ? Because if not, what ?

And if the only factor is the amount of the prize pool and the prestige, then there is a risk of fraudulent play, a match seller. After all, there were such cases many years ago. So, what is it now ?

[Astvile]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

[tumis]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Do I know the gamers & pro player better? But what exactly? I only have statistics - and reallty poor stats only. In football, I also have statistics? - but much much more stats.. And that much more accurate? so plus for a traditional sport.

What do I have in esports ? The results. The actual form. But I have nothing else. I don't know how a player will play in the next game. Even as in the previous one, he was in great shape. It comes out so daytime that nothing comes out. And even though Astralis was great in previous matches now that they play with NaVi they just don't go. They get such a beating like little kids. It's like they forgot how to play. Or is it the pressure? Or maybe it's the lack of supporters ? Or maybe it's just - the disposition of the day and that's it.

But now the question is. How do you know the day's disposition? Even if you're close, you don't know it, let alone when you're browsing the Internet and considering yourself a connoisseur...

Sad truth.

[Mahanton]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

Not at all and just like on typical sports we've known even how favorite on a certain team it isnt a guaranteed thing for you to win yet there are still upsets
that do happen along the way the only thing differs here is that the no. of participants are just few which means you do only have to select a few of them
not like on sports ex. NBA where there are lots to choose from which would really give out confusion from time to time but overall the key on winning is to analyze
things when it comes to stats and also be wary of news that do happens along the way.

[fortebettor]

The problem is that you don't know if these "news" are true and how true they are. And even if it is true, the bookmaker knows it anyway.

I think that in time there will be more tools and statistics to take a closer look at each game from the player's side and not just by comparing the results and form of the players.

[Oasisman]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

Knowing well the game and the players ain't enough to make an easy bet. You have to realize, you're not the only person who knows the game and player very well plus the odds are making it more difficult to choose a betting option. Same goes to sports betting, me myself is a fan of NBA and I regularly have updates to the players status every game, yet it's still hard to choose a bet and win it.

If you don't mind sharing your winning bets and basic tutorial on howeasy for you to win a bet?

[Sadlife]

I always bet in Esports and Sports gambling games, because they're the only the games that uses intelligence, analysis besides casino games like poker not unlike most games that's based only in luck and intuition. And if you're really familiar with the team and their strategy and behaviour you might even have a winning streak that's the difference between calculated games and randomness cause random games sometimes you win sometimes you loss a lot.

Also these betting sites offers ridiculous jackpot prices like Freebitco where you can win a car and Kawbet where you can win 7BTC.

[STT]

And if the only factor is the amount of the prize pool and the prestige, then there is a risk of fraudulent play, a match seller. After all, there were such cases many years ago. So, what is it now ?

The real problem was inequality, so the game was growing and money was circulating via games bet and industry to support those bettors.   However at this time the players themselves were being left nonsalaried and yet they invest alot of time into the regular gameplay and eventually game results that are part of the betting scene.    It was a kind of mistake that was visited on the players in massive consequences for choosing the easier path of throwing games.  If they had more patience and waited for proper revenue streams to establish and teams with regular pay they would have possibly made a million by now.  Instead they gained something like 20k tops, a quick buck.

[TeslaMotors]

And if the only factor is the amount of the prize pool and the prestige, then there is a risk of fraudulent play, a match seller. After all, there were such cases many years ago. So, what is it now ?

The real problem was inequality, so the game was growing and money was circulating via games bet and industry to support those bettors.   However at this time the players themselves were being left nonsalaried and yet they invest alot of time into the regular gameplay and eventually game results that are part of the betting scene.    It was a kind of mistake that was visited on the players in massive consequences for choosing the easier path of throwing games.  If they had more patience and waited for proper revenue streams to establish and teams with regular pay they would have possibly made a million by now.  Instead they gained something like 20k tops, a quick buck.

Wait, basically I get interested in this thread you can write exactly what cases you mean ? I know that many small clubs didn't pay their players and that there was a lot of dishonesty but when it comes to big organizations you know some cases in 2019 - 2018 ? If so, give me the details and source of information.

I always bet in Esports and Sports gambling games, because they're the only the games that uses intelligence, analysis besides casino games like poker not unlike most games that's based only in luck and intuition. And if you're really familiar with the team and their strategy and behaviour you might even have a winning streak that's the difference between calculated games and randomness cause random games sometimes you win sometimes you loss a lot.

Also these betting sites offers ridiculous jackpot prices like Freebitco where you can win a car and Kawbet where you can win 7BTC.

It's funny when someone who advertises... casino and betting says that. What kind of intelligence? What are you talking about? So you're stupid - why do you take bets but no longer place them yourself?? Why is it your business? Please don't write than lies...

[tumis]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

I think that's definitely the best approach. My observations show that it's also worth following the profiles of all the players on the twitter of the teams we bet most often. It's also worth to follow the coaches and owners of organization. Often it is possible to deduce from the context itself what approach to the match the team will have. Of course there is not much of it but it will change.

It's also worth to keep an eye on the game changes. It is known that in the League of Legends, for example, the game changes a lot with each subsequent patch (new meta). Knowing the exact style of play of 1-2 teams in the league it is easy to bet if the new finish line is good for them or not. And especially at the beginning of the first matches the bettor has a lot of room for improvement. When the statistics are not important yet and we don't have results. Then the strongest weapon is what we have. That is to say, our own obstinacy and logical conclusions we can reach.

I've also noticed another tendency. Some of the odds are very unevenly divided favouring one team to the limit, which is a bookmakers' mistake and should be used. Bookmakers often set odds on the basis of popularity as the players play and those who often play only on the basis of their likes or completely amateurishly. The same is true of traditional football and other sports. Never play Liverpool with weakest team in preamier leauge per 1.12 or somethink like that

[piwpafer]

Hint 1
Only play big tournaments and matches in leagues with a pot of over $100,000. Every lesser known tournament is a risk of fixed matches (many case like russian dota) and so you lose.

Hint 2
Choose one game, only the one you feel better in. You need to know the game very well and be on the go.  Unfortunately, it takes a long time. The better you know the game, the better you can predict the results.

Hint 3
Analyze the statistics of the teams you bet on. Concentrate on the analysis of players with form. Compare the team leaders and the weakest links.

Hint 4
Choose games that are popular because the teams have a lot of fans and where the odds can only be based on that. Analyze whether the odds really reflect form or whether they are a trend that is not based on a team's real chances of winning.
 

[Sadlife]

Discussions with an insider is a interesting group and i would like to take part of it, also share my knowledge to some sports games. Insiders are really an asset especially if they give valuable information such as the teams who are likely to win and what teams is not in a perfect shape or lacking key members.
Even though, there's an internet to find out this information, you can only dig small pieces.

[TeslaMotors]

Discussions with an insider is a interesting group and i would like to take part of it

You already belong to some group? There were once memosbets, among others, but not only

[dexterto0]

In principle, the rules are the same as for any sport. Never play something you don't know. Look for information wherever possible. Do not play understated. I always have a dozen or so accounts with bookmakers if you want to win only this way you have any chance.

People are generally overly confident in their knowledge and skills. They tend to overestimate its quality and scope, underestimate the risks and over-confidence in their own control of processes. It has also been observed that people become overconfident, especially when they have previously achieved rapid success in a new field.

Betting players often make cognitive mistakes when making assumptions, drawing conclusions or looking for information about the match they want to bet on. Many of these mistakes can be avoided, but you have to be aware that they can occur.

You need to know psychology - the better the less... you will lose. Always analyze. Every time you lose, the more so. Is it worth taking an interest?

• Wrong assumptions.
• Confirmation effect
• Negligence
• Peak-end principle
• Authority effect
• Contrast effect
• A halo effect
• Anchorage effect

I'm not going to summarize them all, but I'll just give you examples:

Errors in risk assessment - actual human behaviour in the face of risk. It takes into account empirical data on decision making in conditions of uncertainty. It explains how and why human behaviour is often irrational and even inconsistent.

Crowd psychology e.g. the so-called Sheep's Rush

Sheep's rush is probably the most well-known and psychologically related behavior of the crowd. The effect of sheep's shoot is when an individual makes decisions taking into account the decisions of other people.
For example, if there are strong falls in odds, I will bet too, because there is probably some significant information. This often results in an avalanche effect, the result of which is not always in line with the player's expectations. If there is a sharp drop in odds during betting trading, the ideal time is to join in at the beginning and "quit" when the trend starts to reverse.


And this is just the beginning ..

[Naida_BR]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

It is very easy to win a parlay in League of Legends betting.
Usually, the favorites are taking the wins but this doesn't provide good odds to the gamblers. You can make decent profits only if you gamble big portions of money to a win of a team.

[piwpafer]

Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

It is very easy to win a parlay in League of Legends betting.
Usually, the favorites are taking the wins but this doesn't provide good odds to the gamblers. You can make decent profits only if you gamble big portions of money to a win of a team.

Usually, the favorites are taking the wins

What a nonsense.

[thekrakennnm]

Sometimes you can follow ex-professional eSports player on their stream/any other media since they often bet on eSports and usually are right more often than regular users.

[piwpafer]

Sometimes you can follow ex-professional eSports player on their stream/any other media since they often bet on eSports and usually are right more often than regular users.

This is a good idea of the question only if you know such if so give me instagram profiles of them . It's hard for me to imagine - unless you mean coaches? But they don't share arcane knowledge, but rather they only make a buzz around their own team. After all, they do not care that the rival knows exactly their tactics, compositions, etc. I think it's hard to find someone who ended his career as a player and then regularly lived the stage by keeping a profile on Twitter. I think such a person has much more interesting things to do.

[TeslaMotors]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.

[Twinkledoe]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.

That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing

https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/

[sunsilk]

There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.

Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

[Ucy]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.

That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing

https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/

This is more like cryptocurrency/stock/forex trading.       If things are manipulated in a bad way  (way that aims to make trading very difficult for skilled or many traders) intentionally, your analytical skills and hard work would be in vain unless you understand how the manipulations work.
Skillful bettors with sufficient information and/or "talents" could do well in betting. One of my fears with having  sufficient information is that it would be abused if it gets into the wrong hands. It could be used for sophisticated match fixing, manipulation etc

[fortebettor]

There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.

Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Okay, now tell me, how do they get to this? after all, this cheater will always be one step smarter, and I can't imagine it's even 50% detectable. How many matches like this are actually caught? Detected ? 10 - 20% max ? Generally we do not know.

Severe punishment ? I don't think you know what kind of money can be behind this harsh punishment... It may not even be half a game...

[TeslaMotors]

New cases of a match set up in leagues with a prize pool exceeding $100,000. I don't know if it's confirmed, but how would I avoid most games in Russia... https://esportsobserver.com/fixed-leagues-with-a-big-prize-pool

[CarnagexD]

There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.

Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Even the virus is spreading the Dota 2 community still continue the major battle and they do this because they want to bring fun to the players but they do this on LAN games only or in the lobby but some of the players is not allowed to travel and connect to the other server and play with their teams so there is a lot of standing on the game but still, they need to adjust because the upcoming international is the thing they need to earn and some of the team does not have direct invited and they need to earn a lot of points to enter into the international 10 so they need to keep it up even they are incomplete.

[dexterto0]

There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.

Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Even the virus is spreading the Dota 2 community still continue the major battle and they do this because they want to bring fun to the players but they do this on LAN games only or in the lobby but some of the players is not allowed to travel and connect to the other server and play with their teams so there is a lot of standing on the game but still, they need to adjust because the upcoming international is the thing they need to earn and some of the team does not have direct invited and they need to earn a lot of points to enter into the international 10 so they need to keep it up even they are incomplete.

And I think that's mainly why Dota 2 is becoming less and less popular every year and unfortunately everything indicates that this game will die a natural death. But maybe it's better for the whole e-sport?

[Saint-loup]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.

That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing

https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/

Thank you for these 2 (very) long articles on the subject.
Well as I understand since the middle of 2016 there are some kind of authorities and governance like the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) which take the issue very seriously and closely monitor and investigate on all official competitions.

[dexterto0]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.

That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing

https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/

Thank you for these 2 (very) long articles on the subject.
Well as I understand since the middle of 2016 there are some kind of authorities and governance like the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) which take the issue very seriously and closely monitor and investigate on all official competitions.

How do they work?
I mean, are there any regular checks?
How can this be controlled, especially in cases of tournaments completely online?

It is physically unrealistic, isn't it?

[TeslaMotors]

g?

https://www.esportsintegrity.com/
https://esic.gg/

Everything is on the page, a lot of reading

We were established in 2016 to take responsibility for disruption prevention investigation and prosecution of all forms of cheating in esports, including, but not limited to, match manipulation and doping,

The Mission of ESIC is to be the recognised guardian of the integrity of esports and to take responsibility for disruption, prevention, investigation and prosecution of all forms of cheating, including, but not limited to, match manipulation and doping.

ESIC exists to unite the industry under the shared values and visions essential to fight against corruption in any form. These values form the basis of the ESIC Program of Integrity measures. Each commission member has bought into these core principles so that, whilst many Members may be in competition with each other commercially, they are as one when it comes to protecting the sport. Each Member has signed their commitment to these Principles and ESIC will be diligent in making their regulatory ambitions for the sport a reality through the Codes and Procedures set out in its Program.

WHAT WE DO
The Esports Integrity Commission works with esports stakeholders to protect the integrity of esports competition.

We are a not-for-profit members’ association and we can help you, whether you’re a tournament organiser, game developer, esports league or betting operator offering esports – join us!

ESIC’s PRINCIPLES
ESIC believes in a strong and vibrant global sport in which all players, professional and amateur, and all industry stakeholders can build a viable and successful career and industry in a safe, competitive and rewarding environment.

ESIC’s Principles cover six fundamental areas and give rise to required standards and structures which are vital for the accelerated future success of Esports. ESIC’s Principles are fair, reasonable and aspirational and are aimed at creating a coherent underlying philosophy for all stakeholders.

They will guide ESIC’s future activity and they will act as a set of benchmarks to which ESIC will be held accountable and will seek to hold the sport and its key stakeholders accountable. Most importantly, each Member of ESIC must agree to and enforce these Principles in their own part of the Esports industry as appropriate to the sector they occupy for the overall good of the sport.

Integrity and Respect
ESIC will not tolerate cheating or abuse of any kind. All Participants must have respect for Officials, respect for opponents and respect for the Codes, Rules and Regulations of the sport.

Fair Process
ESIC is committed to principles of natural justice and fair process and will ensure that any procedure adopted to implement Codes, Rules and Regulations is balanced, proportionate and fair to all parties.

Implementation, Education and Enforcement in Standardised Codes
ESIC Members recognise the value and inherent clarity and fairness in implementing standardised (not necessarily identical), integrity Codes, Policies, Rules and Regulations across the whole of Esports. All stakeholders recognise that education is the best method of deterring corrupt activity and are committed to a robust and comprehensive education programme.

Recognition of sanctions
ESIC Members are committed to recognising and enforcing the sanctions imposed on any person where ESIC or another Member of ESIC has imposed such sanction using a standard ESIC Code, Policy, Rule or Regulation.

Sharing of information
ESIC Members agree that sharing of intelligence and information will enhance the fight against cheating and corruption and they will support ESIC’s intelligence gathering and investigatory function.

Confidentiality
ESIC Members are committed to the highest standards of confidentiality in dealing with and communicating about integrity issues, especially where individuals are named and where unsubstantiated allegations can cause great damage. Consequently, ESIC and its Members will only make public statements regarding integrity issues in accordance with the ESIC Codes, Rules and Regulations and will use their best endeavours to protect the confidentiality of all parties to allegations and investigations unless and until such party has been found guilty of an offence under an ESIC Code, Policy, Rule or Regulation.

[tumis]

It all looks beautiful on paper unfortunately the reality is not so pink. These organizations have practically no tools to be able to effectively fight against fraudulent esports games. Let's hope that this changes

[JamesBennett]

Unfortunately, as with pretty much all forms of betting/gambling, there are no guarantees to get regular wins. With that being said though, there will be people who manage to win bets more consistently. Esports is very similar to traditional sports when it comes to betting, but I do believe it can be easier to track and make more solid predictions.

I spent a few months betting on esports, focusing on League of Legends, CS:GO and Call of Duty and found this to be particularly useful - https://www.esportsbets24.com/

They help break down the tips and tricks that you'll likely find the most benefit from and also post predictions for some of the biggest esports matches. Like I said at the start though, there's never a guaranteed win when gambling, but taking advice and predictions from some websites like that could help you find a little more success when betting on esports.

[TeslaMotors]

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.

That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing

https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/

Are these the only two organizations that regulate it ? you know some other places where you can get a better understanding of the procedures and how to prevent for small leagues and tournaments ?

[piwpafer]

Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.

There are a lot of analysis that we need to know in order to win in Esports betting. Before you place a bet you need to know who's underdog and who's have upper hand. I often bet in dota 2 and I have high win rate because I always identifying the strength and the weaknesses of the team before I bet my money.  

for instance?
share these tools because apart from hltv, I don't see anything worth using...

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'?

Not specifically a certain game, but in general.

I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.

How are you sure? Do you have any proof and would like to show it or tell about it?

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

eSports still seem much easier to fix. In a real match where players are sweating and beating each other up, primal emotions become more obvious, impulsiveness and anger often fuel a player to forget his promise to the bookie to lose the match and may end up doing something rash which may lead to a win. Chances that the big whale who paid the team to take part in fixing ends up going South.

Thats what I have felt in game, but play acting is also possible so you may have a point worth discussing too.

Not necessarily. Imagine the equipment and artificial AI that detects that a player doesn't play 100% of his or her abilities, but just plays worse and makes mistakes that are unusual? You think this is not possible?

Thanks for that, I needed it.

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that I mentioned before.

We don't know what is happening behind that curtain.

All we know is that these professional players do their best to take home this prize money. In Dota 2, there are a lot of players getting banned because of this, and they really regret they did it. For me, it is not that less but a lot of things proved that fixing is not a thing anymore. In the past, we can only see the games being played, right now we can see how players evolve and rage in a tournament showing their regrets when they commit mistakes.

Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters

[Sadlife]

My strategy when betting is simple i only wager on sports i know and often watched. It would be harder to decide and to analyze if you dont know the teams and their gameplay and their recent history. But some people use paid tools or create themselves mostly this are AI's, i recommend you take a look if you're interested.

[batang_bitcoin]

Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters

Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

[bitbunnny]

My strategy when betting is simple i only wager on sports i know and often watched. It would be harder to decide and to analyze if you dont know the teams and their gameplay and their recent history. But some people use paid tools or create themselves mostly this are AI's, i recommend you take a look if you're interested.

That is smart approach. Results are always the best when you feel selfconfident and you are familiar with that sport. Gambling mainly depends on luck, however some knowledge about the sport you bet can only help.
I have the similar approach and only rare I choose sports where I play only on luck and I'm not following it I'm not a fan. I don't believe in paid tools so I don't use them.

[cabron]

Insider betting tips of OP seem like spam alone. Why do they have to make their website close for anyone? The only way for it to work is to spam that sporttalk.com

My strategy when betting is simple i only wager on sports i know and often watched. It would be harder to decide and to analyze if you dont know the teams and their gameplay and their recent history. But some people use paid tools or create themselves mostly this are AI's, i recommend you take a look if you're interested.

That is smart approach. Results are always the best when you feel selfconfident and you are familiar with that sport. Gambling mainly depends on luck, however some knowledge about the sport you bet can only help.
I have the similar approach and only rare I choose sports where I play only on luck and I'm not following it I'm not a fan. I don't believe in paid tools so I don't use them.

Its an Esport, everybody chat on the internet and the players can even chat with each other while playing. Hard to bet in games like this when they can just talk about who shall win. It's best to just stick to real sports, men's sports like UFC.

[TeslaMotors]

Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters

Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.

[MCobian]

In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

[Darker45]

In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

Not only do you need to know the team and each player and how their chemistry fares out in their plays, more importantly you need to know the game itself. It would be a lacking analysis if you are familiar with the teams and their line-ups and their statistics but not the eSports game itself. There may be strengths and weaknesses of players and teams that won't easily reflect on their stat numbers.

[sportbettor]

Here you can find the List of TOP 10 E-Sports Betting Sites: http://sportstatist.com/e-sports-betting-sites-eng/

[onrise]

In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

Definitely it requires research and you knowledge about the team and the individual players and their strength and weakness. This would help you to judge who may have the better side of winning under the given conditions and also some games may be dependent on which ground and country it is player and some team or players are best suited to perform best in those specific grounds. Also, such information should be known before betting on e-sports.

[bitbunnny]

In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

E sports betting.is.not simple, it's demanding and to my opinion it's for analytical types of players. So, yes, I agree if you want to be successful in e sport betting you need to.do a lot of research and collect a lot of information but not many people have preferences for that, they prefere easy way. That is why to my opinion e sports betting doesn't have much fans.

[batang_bitcoin]

Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters

Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.

Do you mean the smurfs? those accounts that shouldn't be on the rank that they are playing? I also dealt with those kinds of players but it's just them playing on lower rank and Valve are punishing those players. What I'm telling you isn't about the rank games or normal games that we used to play. But, it's about the tournament plays and official games with prizes that's being broadcasted all over the world with many shoutcasters and streamers. I guess that's what you meant to say and it's not related to the official league and tournaments.

[TeslaMotors]

Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters

Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.

Do you mean the smurfs? those accounts that shouldn't be on the rank that they are playing? I also dealt with those kinds of players but it's just them playing on lower rank and Valve are punishing those players. What I'm telling you isn't about the rank games or normal games that we used to play. But, it's about the tournament plays and official games with prizes that's being broadcasted all over the world with many shoutcasters and streamers. I guess that's what you meant to say and it's not related to the official league and tournaments.

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

[figmentofmyass]

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

so what's your angle as a bettor? which e-sports---or i guess more importantly what levels of competition and odds---do you find worth betting on?

i'm finding some interesting plays with good odds on lower tier tournaments. (~major for SC2/brood wars, minor for dota 2, re liquipedia tier)

i'm gonna try a strategy where i focus on high variance matches with long odds where i think books are underpricing underdogs. i've been doing a lot of research the last couple days and this seems somewhat common.

[GDragon]

In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

E sports betting.is.not simple, it's demanding and to my opinion it's for analytical types of players. So, yes, I agree if you want to be successful in e sport betting you need to.do a lot of research and collect a lot of information but not many people have preferences for that, they prefere easy way. That is why to my opinion e sports betting doesn't have much fans.

Yup, its kind of hard to predict the outcome of the game just by picking the best team. One mistake of that team can be the turning point of the game, anyone can lose. There is so much to think of in e-sports game. For example in dota 2, picking is a crucial part too, the team who outpicks the enemy team has more chance in winning. Its kind of tricky also when it comes to a team with a new player. How can you predict that the new player can blend with the team if you haven't see him play for the team a couple of times.

[turkandjaydee]

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

-snip-
For example in dota 2, picking is a crucial part too, the team who outpicks the enemy team has more chance in winning.
-snip-

In fact, this is what makes it more predictable. In live betting where it is provided by several betting sites, you can place a bet after seeing the draft so you can be more confident with your bet.

So don't just place a bet on a pre-match.

[TeslaMotors]

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

Well, I wrote. Mega popular tournaments are unpredictable. Too evenly matched. The best is the medium games... But here we have too little regulation and too much risk of dishonesty...

[fortebettor]

You'll never get away with this. But you can use these things. If you analyze the behavior on the btc stock exchange well and you know the mentality and psychology of people, you can make money. And I'm more of an analyst than a typical stock market

[Bezobraznike]

You'll never get away with this. But you can use these things. If you analyze the behavior on the btc stock exchange well and you know the mentality and psychology of people, you can make money. And I'm more of an analyst than a typical stock market

   I never placed bet on e-sports! I think like you, some people can get away with this and make profit, and
maybe LoL with just 5 vs 5, and Counter Strike with 5 VS 5 is easier to analyze than other games with more
players. If you know how they play and their state you will have advantage!
   I should start making bets on e-sports, from recently I started watching my kid and some show about
League of Legends, it's not bad to try betting on kids and their play. Where you can place bet for e-sports?

[TheUltraElite]

If you analyze the behavior on the btc stock exchange well and you know the mentality and psychology of people, you can make money. And I'm more of an analyst than a typical stock market

Then why are you posting here. This is a thread about sports betting and not stock market analysis.

If you say that both need analysis then I agree with you. Sports need a lot of homework from the gambler's part and keeping up with performances and game outcomes is not an easy thing to do everyday and provided the fact that any prediction that you might be a loss makes it even more repulsive.

It is important to seek out some games where most players dont bet in but it is not a guaranteed win trick. You need to know the game and the players. In e-sports this is tougher than a physical sport.

[leea-1334]

Then why are you posting here. This is a thread about sports betting and not stock market analysis.

If you say that both need analysis then I agree with you. Sports need a lot of homework from the gambler's part and keeping up with performances and game outcomes is not an easy thing to do everyday and provided the fact that any prediction that you might be a loss makes it even more repulsive.

It is important to seek out some games where most players dont bet in but it is not a guaranteed win trick. You need to know the game and the players. In e-sports this is tougher than a physical sport.

Best to ignore people like them. They are either not reading and posting or worse still even bots.

ALTHOUGH there is a point in some people talking about betting like they trade. I even agree some people who trade like they gamble. Looking for strategies,,, after all sportsbetting and trading also relies a lot on analysis but is still affected by "random" factors. Not random because anything could happen but random because we cannot possibly know how things will happen:)

e-sports for me is also unique because of electronic randomness. Speed of internet at any given time. The function of your keyboard and mouse even!

[TheUltraElite]

e-sports for me is also unique because of electronic randomness. Speed of internet at any given time. The function of your keyboard and mouse even!

Ping and latency issues too. One of the reasons why Third world country users have suffered in online multiplayer games which need a quick response time and are unable to get a special ISP sponsorship for a leased line. So you can understand the similarity with the physical sports by the people who control them and e-sports. They cant practice with seasoned players as well.

These things will influence the way bets are made. If they are put on a world stage where the game is on LAN then the ping issue will be gone but they are less likely to have an edge. Still it can differ.

[Negotiation]

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

Well, I wrote. Mega popular tournaments are unpredictable. Too evenly matched. The best is the medium games... But here we have too little regulation and too much risk of dishonesty...

These mega tournaments are great for betting Competitors and demand double due to lower risk However, not too much profit is achieved Most people play for fun. I also play here occasionally Betting through the lockdown is a much better means of entertainment.

[Barnabe]

I would be curious to know if e-sports betting are a good fit for machine learning algorithms. I mean, the data is there, it is quantifiable and should follow the same rules as traditional sports in which this kind of methods is proven to work. Anyone has some information about this topic ?

[STT]

Not in the slightest remote chance is AI or machine learning able to handle the variances of player performance even if it were held in a more regular physical setting of a LAN it would still be incredibly hard to predict.    Especially now with most action online even if the teams are together its not a regular performance and CS is managing delays between locations to balance competitive advantage.   It matters at the pro level, it will add some effect or disruption for equality and its just another reason why no computer is working it out reliably.
   The systems you talk about will be referring to home advantage and all sorts plus just a physical sport has something to map out and human bodies have more of a cycle to their performance so its trackable.  Esports is still something requiring real performance and people have their peaks but its really less regular to observe.

[batang_bitcoin]

I would be curious to know if e-sports betting are a good fit for machine learning algorithms. I mean, the data is there, it is quantifiable and should follow the same rules as traditional sports in which this kind of methods is proven to work. Anyone has some information about this topic ?

I haven't heard about that. Yes, esports is the same as the traditional sports as if we're betting for a match. The difference is that it's the computer game matches. I don't understand what's this machine algo that you're describing and how it could be related to esports betting.
If you don't mind, can you give me any background regards to that topic? There should be no algorithm if you're defining to the bettors' side but if there's a deeper meaning into it and that's what you're looking for, I have no idea.

[Barnabe]

I would be curious to know if e-sports betting are a good fit for machine learning algorithms. I mean, the data is there, it is quantifiable and should follow the same rules as traditional sports in which this kind of methods is proven to work. Anyone has some information about this topic ?

I haven't heard about that. Yes, esports is the same as the traditional sports as if we're betting for a match. The difference is that it's the computer game matches. I don't understand what's this machine algo that you're describing and how it could be related to esports betting.
If you don't mind, can you give me any background regards to that topic? There should be no algorithm if you're defining to the bettors' side but if there's a deeper meaning into it and that's what you're looking for, I have no idea.

I don't really know the specifics, but I heard several success stories about anticipating outcomes in sports like tennis or horse racing. You have to consider a lot of variables, and some of them will be very difficult to quantify, but ultimately if esports follows similar patterns as other sports ML algorithms should be able to provide good results

Not in the slightest remote chance is AI or machine learning able to handle the variances of player performance even if it were held in a more regular physical setting of a LAN it would still be incredibly hard to predict.    Especially now with most action online even if the teams are together its not a regular performance and CS is managing delays between locations to balance competitive advantage.   It matters at the pro level, it will add some effect or disruption for equality and its just another reason why no computer is working it out reliably.
   The systems you talk about will be referring to home advantage and all sorts plus just a physical sport has something to map out and human bodies have more of a cycle to their performance so its trackable.  Esports is still something requiring real performance and people have their peaks but its really less regular to observe.

You should not only consider the competitions to gather data. Most of these competitors regularly live stream, by analysing their results during these streams you could get a lot of data. But I have no idea if they would be worth something in this case....

[LbtalkL]

I guess there is no trick in esports betting, you just need to be updated and knowledgeable on Esport you are about to bet. Like for an instance on Dota2. If you are watching some online tournaments it is an advantage because you are already familiar with each team gameplay and performance but Dota2 is a competitive game its patch is updated regularly, so the team will figure out which heroes are good on that particular patch. In short, if you are knowledgeable on a certain Esport you have a good chance to select which teams will win.

[Mauser]

I guess there is no trick in esports betting, you just need to be updated and knowledgeable on Esport you are about to bet. Like for an instance on Dota2. If you are watching some online tournaments it is an advantage because you are already familiar with each team gameplay and performance but Dota2 is a competitive game its patch is updated regularly, so the team will figure out which heroes are good on that particular patch. In short, if you are knowledgeable on a certain Esport you have a good chance to select which teams will win.

Being informed about esports makes sense before betting. But don't forget there is always a huge factors of randomness involved. There is a lot to take into consideration for esport tournaments. For example, are they playing on LAN or Internet. When games are only played on internet like during the corona pandemic factors such as a ping and latency have a huge impact. Having a Dota 2 player being based in North America or Asia, and the rest of the team in Europe creats a lot of problems. 

I would recommend if you have a lot of insights, make some small high risk bets with a lot high payout. Your losses will be limited and you can spread across more bets.

[GDragon]

I think there is no really a specific tips for Esports. Its the same with other gambling games. Play it, know the game you are betting. First hand experience is better because you will have insights on who you think will win, you will have to think for yourself. Another tip is watch youtube matches, know the pro teams and players. I do this in Dota 2. I Listen to the shoutcasters because some explains details about the game or the player that will make me help in betting. You can also read forums about the esports tournament. There will be a lot of opinions on who will win and from there, some will help you decide.

[blockman]

I think there is no really a specific tips for Esports. Its the same with other gambling games. Play it, know the game you are betting. First hand experience is better because you will have insights on who you think will win, you will have to think for yourself. Another tip is watch youtube matches, know the pro teams and players. I do this in Dota 2. I Listen to the shoutcasters because some explains details about the game or the player that will make me help in betting. You can also read forums about the esports tournament. There will be a lot of opinions on who will win and from there, some will help you decide.

This is what I do. Although the counterpart is even if you don't play the game as long as you understand the mechanics and you know the teams involved and you get to know some part of their backgrounds, that's enough for you to continue betting with any of your chosen esports.
It's also good to follow most of the pro players for that specific esports you follow and get to understand their tips because they're the ones that are playing professionally.

[Tipstar]

I think there is no really a specific tips for Esports. Its the same with other gambling games. Play it, know the game you are betting. First hand experience is better because you will have insights on who you think will win, you will have to think for yourself. Another tip is watch youtube matches, know the pro teams and players. I do this in Dota 2. I Listen to the shoutcasters because some explains details about the game or the player that will make me help in betting. You can also read forums about the esports tournament. There will be a lot of opinions on who will win and from there, some will help you decide.

This is what I do. Although the counterpart is even if you don't play the game as long as you understand the mechanics and you know the teams involved and you get to know some part of their backgrounds, that's enough for you to continue betting with any of your chosen esports.
It's also good to follow most of the pro players for that specific esports you follow and get to understand their tips because they're the ones that are playing professionally.

To some extent, esports is much more depended on the skills than many other team sports. I'd put them above team sports along the line of tennis for analytical significance. Collection of data between several teams and placing them by ranking and head to head as well by the game format makes it easier to guess which team would come stronger.

[ralle14]

Being informed about esports makes sense before betting. But don't forget there is always a huge factors of randomness involved. There is a lot to take into consideration for esport tournaments. For example, are they playing on LAN or Internet. When games are only played on internet like during the corona pandemic factors such as a ping and latency have a huge impact. Having a Dota 2 player being based in North America or Asia, and the rest of the team in Europe creats a lot of problems. 

Ping isn't really much of an issue now that most of the tournaments are played online they only allow teams to play in certain servers thats why we see seperate tournaments for each region (EU/CIS,NA/SA,SEA). It's possible to play from other countries but it's very rare to see teams force their players to play knowing that high ping can affect their performance usually they'd get a stand in or a temporary replacement.

[Triffin]

I would be curious to know if e-sports betting are a good fit for machine learning algorithms. I mean, the data is there, it is quantifiable and should follow the same rules as traditional sports in which this kind of methods is proven to work. Anyone has some information about this topic ?

I haven't heard about that. Yes, esports is the same as the traditional sports as if we're betting for a match. The difference is that it's the computer game matches. I don't understand what's this machine algo that you're describing and how it could be related to esports betting.
If you don't mind, can you give me any background regards to that topic? There should be no algorithm if you're defining to the bettors' side but if there's a deeper meaning into it and that's what you're looking for, I have no idea.

I don't really know the specifics, but I heard several success stories about anticipating outcomes in sports like tennis or horse racing. You have to consider a lot of variables, and some of them will be very difficult to quantify, but ultimately if esports follows similar patterns as other sports ML algorithms should be able to provide good results

Not in the slightest remote chance is AI or machine learning able to handle the variances of player performance even if it were held in a more regular physical setting of a LAN it would still be incredibly hard to predict.    Especially now with most action online even if the teams are together its not a regular performance and CS is managing delays between locations to balance competitive advantage.   It matters at the pro level, it will add some effect or disruption for equality and its just another reason why no computer is working it out reliably.
   The systems you talk about will be referring to home advantage and all sorts plus just a physical sport has something to map out and human bodies have more of a cycle to their performance so its trackable.  Esports is still something requiring real performance and people have their peaks but its really less regular to observe.

You should not only consider the competitions to gather data. Most of these competitors regularly live stream, by analysing their results during these streams you could get a lot of data. But I have no idea if they would be worth something in this case....

In gambling and sports betting there will be so many people who compet and this is like bread and butter for them. We should not just focus on collecting data but we should get proper detail about competitor as we know esports is simple when you really know the game and the players with their strategies. According to me investing on team is better than investing on just  player of horse riding etc.

[Twinkledoe]

I think there is no really a specific tips for Esports. Its the same with other gambling games. Play it, know the game you are betting. First hand experience is better because you will have insights on who you think will win, you will have to think for yourself. Another tip is watch youtube matches, know the pro teams and players. I do this in Dota 2. I Listen to the shoutcasters because some explains details about the game or the player that will make me help in betting. You can also read forums about the esports tournament. There will be a lot of opinions on who will win and from there, some will help you decide.

This is what I do. Although the counterpart is even if you don't play the game as long as you understand the mechanics and you know the teams involved and you get to know some part of their backgrounds, that's enough for you to continue betting with any of your chosen esports.
It's also good to follow most of the pro players for that specific esports you follow and get to understand their tips because they're the ones that are playing professionally.

To some extent, esports is much more depended on the skills than many other team sports. I'd put them above team sports along the line of tennis for analytical significance. Collection of data between several teams and placing them by ranking and head to head as well by the game format makes it easier to guess which team would come stronger.

This is the reason why if you want to have high chance of winning in esports betting, you should at least know the game and the teams involved. It is much better if you are following their games before going into betting. The more you are familiar with the team and the game, the better chance of winning. So actually, there is no secret with esports, the more you know the game and the individuals involved, the better for you as a bettor.

[Shasha80]

Actually esports betting is very beneficial for people who often play games, because the key to winning betting on esports very
dependent on our experience. The more often watching online tournaments, will make us have information about the team and
players the strong one. That way it will be easier to win esports betting. At least we can have a picture to choose a team or a player
who will win the game and succeed in making us make money from esports betting.

[blockman]

This is what I do. Although the counterpart is even if you don't play the game as long as you understand the mechanics and you know the teams involved and you get to know some part of their backgrounds, that's enough for you to continue betting with any of your chosen esports.
It's also good to follow most of the pro players for that specific esports you follow and get to understand their tips because they're the ones that are playing professionally.

To some extent, esports is much more depended on the skills than many other team sports. I'd put them above team sports along the line of tennis for analytical significance. Collection of data between several teams and placing them by ranking and head to head as well by the game format makes it easier to guess which team would come stronger.

There's no need to compare esports to any other team sports. Both are dependents on their skills and they are two different kinds of competition. Kudos for esports professional athletes and also to those sports athletes that the first people that we idolized.
Ranking are just basic in the beginning but in the long run, when they're in-game it's hard to depend on those rankings unless they've proven to be dominating the region where they belong.

[Quidat]

This is what I do. Although the counterpart is even if you don't play the game as long as you understand the mechanics and you know the teams involved and you get to know some part of their backgrounds, that's enough for you to continue betting with any of your chosen esports.
It's also good to follow most of the pro players for that specific esports you follow and get to understand their tips because they're the ones that are playing professionally.

To some extent, esports is much more depended on the skills than many other team sports. I'd put them above team sports along the line of tennis for analytical significance. Collection of data between several teams and placing them by ranking and head to head as well by the game format makes it easier to guess which team would come stronger.

There's no need to compare esports to any other team sports. Both are dependents on their skills and they are two different kinds of competition. Kudos for esports professional athletes and also to those sports athletes that the first people that we idolized.
Ranking are just basic in the beginning but in the long run, when they're in-game it's hard to depend on those rankings unless they've proven to be dominating the region where they belong.

The thing you said was definitely right! 2 things are incomparable yet they do really have their own field of expertise but both can really be considered to be in sports field.They do differ in genre though.
Tricks and tips are common but actually it will always end up on betting on teams that you do know on who do have the edge and be sure that we are knowledgeable into teams that we are betting into
not just making blind bets or making it random.This might be a simple suggestion but doing the basics is really that hard but winning percentage would really be just like 50-50% chance compared to
any other games out there.