no 1 reason why the bulls are starting real soon!!!

[arpon11]

The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!

and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.

Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!

i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!

It looks imaginary for me and to some extent you may be right!  You have asked a very important and significant pertinent question here, why is sec Delaying ETF approval instead of outrightly reject it?  This is signed that ETF is going to get approval one day.  If ETF is approve we should expect Bull run to me because since we have been having this delay's announcements the market has been reacting to those news negatively. 

[pönde]

Is there any clear evidence of flow from stocks to crypto? Link?

Do the ETFs cointain real BTC or are they just paper BTC, like paper gold?

[Reid]

Correct.
The number 1 pick will be bitcoin. I wont go for gold or silver into the line commodities. They do not have that much movement anymore. Oil also have been in bad shape since some of them wont be sharing anymore.

I will go with the new one and is now at a cheaper price. The best choice that will ever be for old investors.

Why? It is the new age. Electronics and technology is the must by now. Internet is the sensation also. Go for something that connects via internet.
What is it? It aint gold of course for it is from the stone age.
It is bitcoin.

[beerlover]

The number 1 pick will be bitcoin. I wont go for gold or silver into the line commodities. They do not have that much movement anymore. Oil also have been in bad shape since some of them wont be sharing anymore.

But, most of the institutions are not thinking in your way. They do believe into some developing countries' stocks and business, governments bonds as their most prioritized alternate investment vehicles when their country's stocks are not doing well. Real estate still remains more attractive alternate investment opportunity compared to bitcoins as per the study on movements of institutional funds.

I will go with the new one and is now at a cheaper price. The best choice that will ever be for old investors.

Less than 10% of investors are only turning into bitcoins as of now to make use of the availability of current lower prices of bitcoins. This number and trends will change in coming times but we cannot expect big as diversification is the prime investment principle for every investors all the times. At the same time, due to the same principle, we may expect bitcoin to be part of portfolio of all investors in coming days .

[Siren]

LOl,wheres the bull now?after an almost 40 billion pump in capitalization now its gone again.is this the bullrun that youre saying?i guess this is just a joke

Not because the stocksre falling meaning we are in good run,remember that we are basing in economy so when this falls,we are also falling,so never use this a basis for you Speculation because its not appropriate

[el kaka22]

The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!

and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.

Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!

i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!

Stock markets do not really have a correlation with bitcoin if you ask me but I could be wrong of course, I am not an expert on this. My logic was if someone is losing money on stock markets because its falling do you really think they would rather invest their money on something that went 80% lower on the year ? I mean if they think bitcoin went down so its time to go back up don't you think they would feel the same on stocks as well ?

Stocks are down anyway so if they put their money on stocks they could profit while its recovering so they do not need to put their money on bitcoin and hope it will go back up. Of course I could be wrong, there could be people who would rather put their money in crypto currencies because they believe in the future long term profits instead of the short term gains.

[exstasie]

Stock markets do not really have a correlation with bitcoin if you ask me but I could be wrong of course, I am not an expert on this.

Overlay their charts starting from the existence of Bitcoin markets. There's obviously a strong long term correlation even if the short term charts don't move exactly together. I don't think there's a causal relationship though. I'm guessing both markets are subject to similar market sentiment and psychology and both benefit from things like cheap credit and general economic growth.

[Febo]

Correct.
The number 1 pick will be bitcoin. I wont go for gold or silver into the line commodities. They do not have that much movement anymore. Oil also have been in bad shape since some of them wont be sharing anymore.

They have possible movement, but of course not as much as Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is also way easier and cheaper to transport and store. Gold will have nice price growth 2-3 years after new economic crisis start.   

[Crypdon]

Having both an ETF and BAKKT during a bear market is the perfect time for institutional investors to jump in. These guys are smart with their money, they know not to jump in at the top, only when there is blood on the streets and right now there is plenty of blood!

[bitbunnny]

I really can't see how the crash of stock market and bull run are connected. Stock market and cryptocurrencies market are not connected, at least not directly and as far as I know there is no prooven connection between these two markets. As well as connections will real estate or gold market.
As many times so far I think that these speculations about bull run are just wisfull thinking without any solid ground.

[JMD07]

The stocks going down is not always an indication that bull run is coming. The stocks are down some time now, even if bull run starts how can we say that this is due to stick market crash if it's going on for so long? Both markets are down for a while now.

i think there is no correlation between stock market and crypto as they had in different platform and in crypto it's more volatile than stock market which is more risk than any other investment. We can only have a bullish trend if we can attract more buyers to buy more bitcoin. It's more on reputation which is not good due to price manipulation with those whales.

[creeps]

Having both an ETF and BAKKT during a bear market is the perfect time for institutional investors to jump in. These guys are smart with their money, they know not to jump in at the top, only when there is blood on the streets and right now there is plenty of blood!

This can help to boost the market again and for me we really need that update. There is no big investors rigt now since everyone is panicking until now. Investors should calm down, and invest only with great coins and in time the market will be ok again. Let’s give more time to cryptocurrency, it can recover in due time, and the bull will be bigger than ever.

[Febo]

The stocks going down is not always an indication that bull run is coming. The stocks are down some time now, even if bull run starts how can we say that this is due to stick market crash if it's going on for so long? Both markets are down for a while now.

i think there is no correlation between stock market and crypto as they had in different platform and in crypto it's more volatile than stock market which is more risk than any other investment. We can only have a bullish trend if we can attract more buyers to buy more bitcoin. It's more on reputation which is not good due to price manipulation with those whales.

Lately is more and more. It used not to be this case. But it happened over 2017 and 2018. Many times Bitcoin went up and down together with NASDAQ.

[richminded]

Having both an ETF and BAKKT during a bear market is the perfect time for institutional investors to jump in. These guys are smart with their money, they know not to jump in at the top, only when there is blood on the streets and right now there is plenty of blood!

This can help to boost the market again and for me we really need that update. There is no big investors rigt now since everyone is panicking until now. Investors should calm down, and invest only with great coins and in time the market will be ok again. Let’s give more time to cryptocurrency, it can recover in due time, and the bull will be bigger than ever.

That moment can happen soon, we are pumping now as I can see with ETH and there’s a bigger chance for bitcoin to reach the resistance level and go beyond that. The volume is getting higher now, I’m glad that 2019 is already showing a positive vibes in the market. Yes, be patience because its not easy to attract investors during bear market.

[passwordnow]

You have analyzed it well but that doesn't mean that the bulls will start very soon. We can't also be confident that ETF and Bakkt would give significant increase to the market. Yes, there's a possibility but don't just let it pass to it. The market shall grow on its own and these events are exciting since it would really bring up the hype for crypto's once again. But about the bulls starting out soon and connection to the crash of stock market, I'm not sure if they really were significant.

[El duderino_]

We can all analyse what we want, but in BTC its everybody thinks.....nobody knows
Maybe the reason why i like it so much

Just believe in longterm succes of it

[Slow death]

Having both an ETF and BAKKT during a bear market is the perfect time for institutional investors to jump in. These guys are smart with their money, they know not to jump in at the top, only when there is blood on the streets and right now there is plenty of blood!

they have a lot of money because they are smart, imagine that they take 1 billion dollars and invest now and hold for the next 3 years, they know that 1 billion dollars had become a lot of money in those 3 years. Who has a lot of money to invest has more advantages. A guy who buys $1000 in bitcoin and hold for 3 years to make $3000 profit, after going through the choke of price ups and downs, the guy at the end just has a small profit ( $3000 ) but these Rich guys can buy many bitcoin and hold for 3 years, they spend holidays in the Bahamas and after 3 years they look at their money in the wallet and they see big profit and they can afford to spend other holidays

FOr to me I dont even know whether is the real bullish race or just to deceive us.

 

better think of the second option

[Ridwan Fauzi]

Just believe in longterm succes of it

Long term investment is a good choice, I have a friend who has invested in 2010 and he chose long term investment to buy bitcoin with $200, now with $200 we can only buy 1 ETH but at that year he bought a lot of bitcoin. One can imagine the profit he will get, even though he did not sell bitcoin at ATH last year and sell it now he will still get profit. Indeed, it's a little difficult to convince someone to choose a long term investment, they only focus on instant investment.

[onebtcforlife]

We can all analyse what we want, but in BTC its everybody thinks.....nobody knows
Maybe the reason why i like it so much

Just believe in longterm succes of it

If you look at the short term we won't get much benefit from it, but people who hold the Bitcoin for the long term will always give us very good money in the long-term. In my country, i cannot able to use bitcoin in any stores, so it is better to hold them for the long term.

[coinplus]

Long term could be not just economical but also life changing. Bitcoin is a thing that people have been using to pay for stuff as well, since the beginning. Way before people started to make billions or at least millions of dollars with it there was a 10.000 bitcoin pizza deal made right here on this forum. Hence, that is what we are headed right now as well.

Yes, I think long term the finance and price part of bitcoin will be a lot higher and would help a lot more people get out of poverty because of the global part of bitcoin there will be people all around the world making a first world income while living in third world countries (like me) but at the same time making bitcoin as a payment option will make it worth more than just money for all of us. Short term we have neither of those things, not adoption not price.

Price could go to 10 thousand dollars TODAY and still wouldn't make any poor person rich all of a sudden, it just triples your worth, as long as you do not have 200k that turns into 600k (which means you were still not poor) your 500 dollars or 1000 dollars won't turn into anything meaningful.