The A-Z story of the scammer issue against me
Hello, everyone, i feel it is the time for me to write a long thread to clarify the scam issue on my side. I will list what happened to me these days,
What happened between me and the member firejuan, i will list the conversation between us with time
March 05:
firejuan reply in my topic and say he have interest to buy a minerin the price of 19999 Yuan approximately = $3264 plus shipping on March 18.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488372.msg5521605#msg5521605I reply with him that This price is not included the shipment fee, also i need some profit to cover the risk of through custom, and told him to send a email to
peicaili@gmail.com, then i can inform him the newest price at the first time
March 08
1) 02:13:18 PM
Firejuan reply in my topic and say “Looking forward to getting my hands on a Dragon Miner. Can't wait pcfli.”
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488372.msg5587217#msg5587217 2) 03:01:53 PM
After read his reply, i think he is a potential buyer and send him a PM and tell him that the price is 5000$ as shown here
3) 03:05:09 PM
He reply a PM and say “ I have already spoken with you on Skype and sent partial payment.”
4) 03:09:16 PM
I am a little confused here so i ask what is his skype ID
5) 03:12:29 PM
he reply my PM and said “I think firejuan22 something similar to my forum ID”
6) 03:14:18 PM
i go to my skype and find there is no person called that name so i send a PM to him saying:are you sure you have talked to me on skype? my skype id is:skypepcfli.
03:21:35 PM
he send me another PM and saying:
Skypepcfli I understood well will be in touch, write when you're ready to pay immediately or pay at this address 1Fyx2kNB4Uov3cDxPSxPoJPZstTLDhYHXc
As a matter of fact, i didn’t get what he trying to say, it seems like he asked me to pay him.so i ignore it without reply.
9-Mar
4:13 AM: (beijing time, it is 9:13 PM 8 March in forum)
he add me in skype (beijing time), i am still in sleep and do not reply him
4:20 AM (beijing time, 6 hours ahead of the time used in forum , so it is 9:40 PM 8 March in forum)
he send me a email from
firejuanchen@gmail.com and say he is interested in buying two miners
5:23 AM(beijing time, it is 9:23 PM 8 Mach in forum)
I wake up and reply him atand clearly say the price is 5000$ for each miner.
5:23 AM(beijing time, it is 9:23 PM 8 March in forum)
After reply his mail, i checked the skype and found out his requirement to add me as contact, I accept , and start the conversation.
5:26 AM((beijing time, it is 9:26 PM 8 March in forum)
he asked me to send him a PM with title March Bitcoin,
5:27 AM(beijing time , it is 9:27 PM 8 Mach in forum)
I did it as he requirement,
5:28 AM(beijing time, it is 9:28 PM 8 march in forum)
after that , i realized something is wrong because he said ”Before I send any more BTC ca you send me a PM from bitcointalk.org with title March Bitcoin. Thanks”. But i never receive any btc from him, so i warned him that he maybe cheated by some one else as you can see in chat record. He answered “I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you”
5:44 AM, (beijing time, it is 9:40 PM 8 March in forum)
he said he would like to order 2 miners and i say it is ok and clarify again that the price is 5000$ for each miner.
10-March-2014
I learned from tomatocage that member helmax raised an Scam accusation against me in the following link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508790.0After reading this topic, i learned that someone faked a name Skypepcfli and escrow.ms to cheat people, then i realized that firejane maybe involved the same scam and i send the following word to confirm my assumption, but he didnot reply, this is all i conversation with him.
As for the other guys called helmax the thing is much simple , i didnot know him until tomatocage tell me he raise a scam issue against me and he add me in skype in 9 march and start the first conversation with me in 10 March and keep saying “send my money back”
i never see your btc, if what you said is ture, it seems like that we are both fooled by the same scammer, i have notice that two people have send me email from different email address and said it is fire juan, one is
firejuanchen@gmail.com and another
firejuan22@hotmail.com and there are two people in my skype contact too named fire juan, but the real skype name is xantrax125rus and live:firejuan22. so the case is that scammer faked both my id and your id and fool us at the same time. if it is the case, the pm i send to you does loose your security, and responisble partly for your loose.
The compensate plan for fire juan
Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time.
because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him.
Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions
88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463
So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit.
This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better.
Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue.