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Cryptohunter has been trolling the forum extensively as of late, and there is no reasoning or rebuttal that will get through to him. He is spreading lies and espousing a conspiracy about a "gang" that exists in his own fantasy world.
I am therefore vowing to cease replying to any of his posts and put him back on ignore permanently, because I refuse to feed a troll who is so obviously vicious, disturbed, and hungry for attention. This thread is for members who would like to take the same vow. I would encourage you to do so, because that's pretty much the only way to get the trolling to stop.
If you want to take the same vow, just write your response here--that's the sole purpose of this thread and is not one for cryptohunter or his sad little alt account to post in. Those posts will be deleted.
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December 23, 2018, 04:10:48 AM |
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Unfortunately, I do not have the self discipline to ignore someone. I always end up peeking. However, I will vow to refrain from responding to this drama anymore, including handing out merits to anything related.
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December 23, 2018, 04:20:51 AM |
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That's fair enough. I'm not trying to start up a lynching posse here or anything--it's just a suggestion and the only good solution to what's become a serious trolling situation that's getting worse. I can't even recall if CH initially had any valid points, because I don't recall when this whole drama started exactly, but it's come to the point where I cannot view his posts as anything but trolling. The only way to get rid of a troll is to starve him to death. Unfortunately, I do not have the self discipline to ignore someone. I always end up peeking.
I'm guilty of that as well, but in this case I'm vowing to neither peek nor respond.
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December 23, 2018, 04:32:17 AM |
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That's fair enough. I'm not trying to start up a lynching posse here or anything--it's just a suggestion and the only good solution to what's become a serious trolling situation that's getting worse. I can't even recall if CH initially had any valid points, because I don't recall when this whole drama started exactly, but it's come to the point where I cannot view his posts as anything but trolling. The only way to get rid of a troll is to starve him to death. There was a somewhat sane discussion going over here just a couple of days ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5087667.0Which kinda lulled me into the illusion that CH can be reasoned with. Won't make that mistake again.
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This thread makes The Pharmacist the Gang Leader I'll give it a try. I have cryptohunter on ignore already because it's virtually impossible to read through his crazy talk, but he keeps summoning me through Piggy's @mention notification bot. I've requested an ignore list for the bot. That was just hours after his plagiarism was exposed. Not getting banned must have made him feel he can get away with anything now.
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I had already pretty much left the discussions already but I will agree not to go back. As pointed out, there is absolutely zero to be gained from continuing to engage someone who doesn't address the arguments but instead either posts walls of ad-hominem attacks or locks his thread to prevent hearing any points of view that contradict their own. Not even the flat-earthers are that bad.
I have absolutely zero doubt cryptohunter will take this as him/her "winning" and "the gang" being "owned", and will then spam this nonsense across the 4 (? 5? 6?) threads (s)he is derailing.
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I have absolutely zero doubt cryptohunter will take this as him/her "winning" and "the gang" being "owned", and will then spam this nonsense across the 4 (? 5? 6?) threads (s)he is derailing.
Yep ("winning" in the Charlie Sheen sense), that's why I've made this a vow. Ingnore and no response. That idiot can attack me all he wants, but it's come to the point where there's nothing is gained for anyone except him in the form of troll food. I don't see any reason to defend myself against attacks that aren't even coherent anymore. Hell, he challenged me to list my accomplishments on bitcointalk and then when I did--against my better judgement--he used them to attack me. There's no reply anyone can make that is ever going to satisfy him. I'm actually fairly certain he'll start attacking his own sock puppets soon; that's how far his insanity has progressed--but since I've vowed to keep him on ignore with no peeking at his posts and no responses, I won't know if he winds up that far gone. I'm moving on from any involvement with this guy, as I feel like I need a strong shower after even visiting the same threads he's posted in. His delusions-of-grandeur/persecution complex/schizowheebeejeebies might be contagious, like a case of brain scabies or something. Don't want to go near him without a hazmat suit on, and I'm afraid his tinfoil hat might even be able to penetrate one of those. This is why I'm recommending everyone, not just the people he thinks are in "the gang", to follow my lead on this one. That ignore button is the most potent troll spray I know of and the more people who use it on him, the better off we'll all be.
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This thread is for members who would like to take the same vow. I would encourage you to do so, because that's pretty much the only way to get the trolling to stop.
Vow? I'll take it and I'll sign it with the blood of my mouse which I almost squeezed to death while trying to avoid hitting the reply button to his flood of posts. I went from wanting to answer his "points" to just wanting to ask him what the f-word his problem is. Probably I don't have the experience of you guys on dealing with things like this over online forums but I honestly don't know how you people even managed to read his posts lately. For **** , yesterday he wrote about 40 posts!!! (more than me in two weeks) each could fill an a4 page but if we leave out the curses and the moaning there was basically zero content. Each damn ban appeal has turned into a debate two pages long, a never-ending story flooding the meta just because somebody wants....really...what the fuck does he want? Can somebody tell me in just one simple line what his real objective is? Ps, I'm getting a digaran vibe from him, could it be ?!?!?
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Yes better to boycott him. We are making him hero like digaran. I am not sure why he is making violence against DT or top merit earner. He is making sound against top merit earners but there is lot of merit abuser why he has not bothered himself if he really want to hut merit abuser. I have already describe why most of peoples are not getting merits even sometimes they have made quality post. Result will be zero by argument, just need to help others from your own place as much as possible. I don't see anything like gang here. Everyone busy with his own job. We are not here to make gang war. I think it should be stop now and help improve forum and forum members.
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Can somebody tell me in just one simple line what his real objective is? Judging by his obsession with signature spam, he's just spamming his signature, meanwhile suffering from Calimero Syndrome. The rest of his mental problems I'll leave up to his psychiatrist.
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Can somebody tell me in just one simple line what his real objective is? This theory proposed by suchmoon in another thread seems compelling. This all feigned concern about plagiarism bans etc was also just your attempt to whitewash your own copypasta.
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Oh damn drama is back at btt?
Oh someone please summarize the whole thing for me, would appreciate if you can quote the stupidest shit you could find, cause them ugly wall texts take forever to read. And its christmas fucking eve, and I ain't spending a lot of time on it. :/
Speaking of, Merry christmas everyone. Not the right thread, but fuck it dude.
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Oh someone please summarize the whole thing for me, would appreciate if you can quote the stupidest shit you could find, cause them ugly wall texts take forever to read.
It would probably take someone until next Christmas to even try to summarize all of what CH has written in the past week. There are so many inconsistencies and lies and outright rambling insane nonsense posts that I'm not sure such a task is even possible. It would be like a doctor sitting with a schizophrenic for 8 hours listening to word-salad and then trying to write up a report of what the patient's point was. What I'm doing, and what I'm suggesting others do, is to leave the patient in the room by himself and then lock him in there. It's self-protection from a particularly infectious form of insanity. And Merry Christmas to you as well, pugman!
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Usually when a user is annoying me or I find irritating what he says I put him on my ignore list, remember if you think he is a troll (I never read all of the drama is way too long) just use the 1st rule "Don't feed the troll".
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The guy is starting to come off as a huge hypocrite IMO. His bitching about paid signatures while hes wearing 1 himself. Not to mention if you disagree with him, get ready for a 3 page book about how you're wrong.
I kinda feel like he is just as bad as the bounty hunters that act entitled on here.
You are going to get what you put the effort in to achieve here. Members who he claims are in this gang are just users who have paid their dues. Users that have contributed to the forum in a positive way. There is no real "gang" at all, just users who respect each other and each others opinions.
If cryptohunter could hold a conversation and not make silly demands, or try to come after a user for not having the same opinion as him, then he'd be fine. Obviously this is not the case.
I had actually considered a new tag along with Marboroza just due to his toxic attitude when engaging in a conversation with him. It's totally a you're either with me or against me attitude and makes him pure shit to deal with on a professional level. The only reason he has avoided a tag from me this far is I do not believe in tagging a user for having a different opinion than mine.
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It would probably take someone until next Christmas to even try to summarize all of what CH has written in the past week. There are so many inconsistencies and lies and outright rambling insane nonsense posts that I'm not sure such a task is even possible. It would be like a doctor sitting with a schizophrenic for 8 hours listening to word-salad and then trying to write up a report of what the patient's point was.
What I'm doing, and what I'm suggesting others do, is to leave the patient in the room by himself and then lock him in there. It's self-protection from a particularly infectious form of insanity.
And Merry Christmas to you as well, pugman!
Oh I so understand on why others can't and wouldn't. The man is an apparent lunatic. Honestly, let's all just go fucking celebrate christmas, open gifts(or you know buy them), and ignore the unnecessary things right now.
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I had actually considered a new tag along with Marboroza just due to his toxic attitude when engaging in a conversation with him. It's totally a you're either with me or against me attitude and makes him pure shit to deal with on a professional level. The only reason he has avoided a tag from me this far is I do not believe in tagging a user for having a different opinion than mine. I've started making my custom trust list because of this: ~cryptohunter DefaultTrust He's now excluded on DT3. Even though he hasn't left any trust, I believe this is the right way to treat a user with such a flawed judgement. I didn't tag him for the same reason: I get the feeling he wants to get tagged by DT, so he can claim how unfair it is. Well, tough luck, I don't tag users for plagiarism, I don't tag them for being idiots, and I don't tag them for being trolls. I did put his alt Chosen Username on ignore too.
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I am not familiar with him, but once you are certain someone is a troll, it is probably best to simply ignore him. If there is a post you come across that you can quickly respond to off the top of your head with little effort, you can respond if you wish.
There are a decent number of people whose goal appears to be only to waste others time and effort rebuking points. You can make your point and show your logic, however at a point this becomes futile.
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I am not familiar with him, but once you are certain someone is a troll, it is probably best to simply ignore him. <snip> You can make your point and show your logic, however at a point this becomes futile.
I'm surprised you've missed all the commotion cryptohunter has created, but take a look at his post history and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. I've seen lots of trolls in my time on bitcointalk, but he has to be one of the worst in terms of bizarre logic, denial, personal attacks, insanely long rambling, and he's even gone so far as to create an alt account, Chosen Username, who magically appeared on 12/21/18 right in the middle of a thread that cryptohunter was rambling in and getting no support--once Chosen Username started posting, it was the written equivalent of an Englishman trying to disguise his voice on the phone by speaking in a very contrived Mexican accent and thinking he's fooling everyone. The alt account would be *mildly* amusing had cryptohunter not gone so far as to give Chosen Username 2 merits. He's a troll who thinks it's everyone else who's stupid, and by trying to rebut his accusations/attacks, I got sucked into the argument(s) far longer than I should have. Since he's attacking other reputable members, I created this thread to basically appeal to people to stop feeding a malignant troll. I've got him and his alt on ignore, and I'm not going to peek at their posts or respond to them and will attempt to not reply in threads either one of them have already posted in. Some trolls are funny, some are ones you can just ignore, but this guy is off his rocker and is so toxic that he should be communally shunned IMO. But hey, everyone is free to do as they like.
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