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December 25, 2018, 12:33:26 PM
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Dear Forum Moderators,

I'd like you to consider my message. I think I was auto-banned by mistake. I learned that (12/12/2018) I was suspended from the forum because of spam or plagiarism. But all the messages I write are my own. Certainly, I'm not quoting anywhere in my writings. My writing consists entirely of my own ideas. I never send spam messages. I need my account. Please check again.


Bitcointalk Username: okeanos
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1065744

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Sorry okeanos, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism. You may appeal here, but your chances are not good: ban*********@theymos.e4ward.com
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December 25, 2018, 12:42:28 PM
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I guess, your account got punished with permanent ban because plagiarised.

I will search your post history and see whether you plagiarised or not.
I will update the thread mins later.

Someone proposed automatically unbanning accounts when specific amount of merit earned by banned accounts. However, I don't believe the admin will consider and implement it.
Mainly because the implementation might highly lead to more merit abusements; one more thing, plagiarism deserves bans (probabaly from bots, and if from real users who are likely lazy users).
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December 25, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
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~ all the messages I write are my own.

I didn't check your messages in Turkish but you have a copypasted comment in English.



Hi, I am joined the Airdrop campaign. I hope that FORTY SEVEN project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to FORTY SEVEN Team!

Hi, i am joined the Blog campaign. I hope that FORTY SEVEN project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to FORTY SEVEN Team!


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December 25, 2018, 02:12:35 PM
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I didn't check your messages in Turkish but you have a copypasted comment in English.



Hi, I am joined the Airdrop campaign. I hope that FORTY SEVEN project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to FORTY SEVEN Team!

Hi, i am joined the Blog campaign. I hope that FORTY SEVEN project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to FORTY SEVEN Team!



Yes, you're right. Messages are very similar because they contain wishes. This post was sent 13 months ago. (30/11/2017) My account was banned on 12/12/2018. I have 224 posts since 13/07/2017. It is a very heavy punishment for my account to be permanently banned due to a similar 1 post.
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December 25, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
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Yes, you're right. Messages are very similar because they contain wishes.

There is a very big difference between being similar and being the exact same. In your case, it is clearly a copy paste scenario since even the word caps are the exact same in your post as they are in the other.

This post was sent 13 months ago. (30/11/2017) My account was banned on 12/12/2018. I have 224 posts since 13/07/2017. It is a very heavy punishment for my account to be permanently banned due to a similar 1 post.

Punishment for plagiarism is a permanent ban. So there is nothing heavy here since the punishment you've got is totally correct for the kind of mistake you've committed. And, it has nothing to do about when you've done it. As soon as you are reported or are caught by a mod, you get banned for doing it.
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December 25, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
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It is a very heavy punishment for my account to be permanently banned due to a similar 1 post.
While I'm very sure this may not be the only reason why you've been banned,or probably may not be the only plagiarised posts you have,but it's sure enough to get you banned,not only is it copy pasted,but exactly word for word with the exact characters(small case and large case)
And also one plagiarised post amongst a million could get one banned, so it's nothing new
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December 25, 2018, 03:29:48 PM
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there is a no chance of unlock your account,as per the rules on the forum plagiarism accounts are permanent ban penalty no one help you mate
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December 25, 2018, 04:07:44 PM
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there is a no chance of unlock your account,as per the rules on the forum plagiarism accounts are permanent ban penalty no one help you mate
Don't be so sure, the account is active again: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okeanos

~ all the messages I write are my own.

I didn't check your messages in Turkish but you have a copypasted comment in English.



Hi, I am joined the Airdrop campaign. I hope that FORTY SEVEN project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to FORTY SEVEN Team!

Hi, i am joined the Blog campaign. I hope that FORTY SEVEN project and the ICO can be successful. Good luck to FORTY SEVEN Team!


Honestly, for such violation, a permaban is too harsh.


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December 25, 2018, 04:36:00 PM
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Don't be so sure, the account is active again: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okeanos

Honestly, for such violation, a permaban is too harsh.

Unfortunately, my account is still banned.
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December 25, 2018, 04:36:30 PM
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Don't be so sure, the account is active again: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okeanos

Ots stated there in BPIP that the account is auto banned by moderators. And I doubt that the decision would be reversed. It's a clear case of copy pasting.

Honestly, for such violation, a permaban is too harsh.

We are not sure that is the exact offense, it's just the one that was found while surfing through the account.
And it is not harsh.
Every user should be able to to read the forum rules. And when failing to do that and spam the forum for personal gains by copying zero quality contents, a ban is well deserved.

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December 25, 2018, 05:24:25 PM
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there is a no chance of unlock your account,as per the rules on the forum plagiarism accounts are permanent ban penalty no one help you mate
Don't be so sure, the account is active again: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=okeanos
Last active depicts the last time the user accessed a page on Bitcointalk. This is regardless of whether they are banned or not.

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December 25, 2018, 05:45:15 PM
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Messages are very similar because they contain wishes. This post was sent 13 months ago.

Yet you said:

My writing consists entirely of my own ideas.

So how do you reconcile these two statements?  Does truth have a shelf-life for you?

In any case, it seems like a lot of members want to start going easier on plagiarists like yourself, so maybe one day some change will be implemented whereby you wouldn't get permabanned for an offense like yours (though I think that's the wrong direction for bitcointalk to be going in).  Until then, however, don't expect to be unbanned.

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December 25, 2018, 06:18:09 PM
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Messages are very similar because they contain wishes. This post was sent 13 months ago.

Yet you said:

My writing consists entirely of my own ideas.

So how do you reconcile these two statements?  Does truth have a shelf-life for you?

In any case, it seems like a lot of members want to start going easier on plagiarists like yourself, so maybe one day some change will be implemented whereby you wouldn't get permabanned for an offense like yours (though I think that's the wrong direction for bitcointalk to be going in).  Until then, however, don't expect to be unbanned.

Please note that, we have this conversation for 1 out of 224 posts. Bitcointalk rules are not The Torah, The Bible or The Quran. It may change over time. I personally find it wrong to have such strict rules. It is promising that this issue will be discussed and that 72.2% of the voters will think like me.

https://i.ibb.co/54rVzm2/poll.png

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5087992.0

Maybe the punishment for this situation can be alleviated. It can be aggravated again.
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December 25, 2018, 06:26:26 PM
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Please note that, we have this conversation for 1 out of 224 posts. <snip>
I personally find it wrong to have such strict rules.
Please note that you've just been shown to be a liar as well as a plagiarizer.  Both of those populations tend to think the rules are too strict when they're facing the consequences of breaking them. 

Those statistics are crap, BTW.  Guaranteed a lot of scammy sock puppets voted and obviously a lot of members didn't vote at all.  This forum doesn't need to go easier on liars/thieves like you IMO and if it does, I hope it's in the form of a permanent signature ban instead of a permaban.

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December 25, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
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Please note that you've just been shown to be a liar as well as a plagiarizer.  Both of those populations tend to think the rules are too strict when they're facing the consequences of breaking them. 

Those statistics are crap, BTW.  Guaranteed a lot of scammy sock puppets voted and obviously a lot of members didn't vote at all.  This forum doesn't need to go easier on liars/thieves like you IMO and if it does, I hope it's in the form of a permanent signature ban instead of a permaban.

I don't accept what you say for me. I'm sorry I caused you to think so.
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December 25, 2018, 08:35:52 PM
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I personally find it wrong to have such strict rules.

Some people might find it wrong to be a lying shitposter. Your post history is shit. Inane one-liners in spammy megathreads.

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December 26, 2018, 05:52:43 PM
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Tell me why they banned me? And is it possible to unblock it?This is my only account.

You've been banned for copy-paste. Create your own thread if you want to appeal the ban.

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