Rigged markets: Only the FED can save the stock market

[jjjfff]

Do you realize that actions by a single bank which is run by bankers is the only way the stock markets can rebound?

It's not the productivity, it's not about value, it's not about sales, jobs or about the general economy.

The FED must print more debt in order to pump the markets. THAT is the state of the world today. It's unreal.

A single bank.

One. Single. Bank. Crashed the world markets because they wanna.

[jjjfff]

Aaaaand here's some more data. Just a coincidence I guess.



The FED will either start heavily printing money again or it's a sure crash.

More printed debt = you work more, bankers work less.

[jjjfff]

Inflation adjusted Dow Jones:



Amount of money printed by the FED:



FED prints money, markets go up. Simple as that.

There is no random walk, there is no chaotic markets.

The FED controls the markets.

[coolcoinz]

They won't be able to keep saving it. At some point the USD will reach the point of no return when people actually wake up and start dumping it to buy goods, metals, crypto, whatever they can just to get rid of the dollar. At this point it will be too late for you to do anything if you are still a dolar holder at that point. Market crashes come suddenly and hit fast. One day it's all fine the next it's people standing in lines in front of their banks, and all ATMs are empty. You wake up, watch the news, and it's all in chaos.

[jjjfff]

They won't be able to keep saving it. At some point the USD will reach the point of no return when people actually wake up and start dumping it to buy goods, metals, crypto, whatever they can just to get rid of the dollar. At this point it will be too late for you to do anything if you are still a dolar holder at that point. Market crashes come suddenly and hit fast. One day it's all fine the next it's people standing in lines in front of their banks, and all ATMs are empty. You wake up, watch the news, and it's all in chaos.

Judging by what we've seen in the past few weeks, especially the past few days, the volatility is just crazy.

Also how Trump is publicly taking on the FED is unprecedented in US Presidents history. Is something big about to happen?

[cellard]

They won't be able to keep saving it. At some point the USD will reach the point of no return when people actually wake up and start dumping it to buy goods, metals, crypto, whatever they can just to get rid of the dollar. At this point it will be too late for you to do anything if you are still a dolar holder at that point. Market crashes come suddenly and hit fast. One day it's all fine the next it's people standing in lines in front of their banks, and all ATMs are empty. You wake up, watch the news, and it's all in chaos.

Judging by what we've seen in the past few weeks, especially the past few days, the volatility is just crazy.

Also how Trump is publicly taking on the FED is unprecedented in US Presidents history. Is something big about to happen?

No president wants to deal with the bad press that would come with letting the markets fall by it's own weight instead of inflating balloons to keep it from crashing into the ground as all presidents have done.

But if there is someone crazy enough to do it it could be Trump. He basically has two options:

1) Keep going with the QE's, "save" the stock market, but get critics by the ones that know what's going on.

2) Let markets crash by avoiding more QE's, blame the FED, make it clear to the public that the FED is a pretty obscure thing and work from there.

But let's not get too excited. Trump is most likely another Zionist puppet, so he isn't going to actually do nothing other than some controlled dissidence to keep the Alex Jones fanboys happy.

[figmentofmyass]

Judging by what we've seen in the past few weeks, especially the past few days, the volatility is just crazy.

Also how Trump is publicly taking on the FED is unprecedented in US Presidents history. Is something big about to happen?

no way. trump aides have been confirming the FED chairman's job is safe. trump seems to be backing down; it's a fight he can't win. this is just a dog-and-pony show, a spectacle. trump is just scapegoating like he always does. he constantly makes a spectacle out of blaming others to avoid being blamed for anything (in this case, poor performance in the markets).

the markets have staged a decent recovery so far. i'm guessing that was the climax of FUD for a while.

[davis196]

Do you realize that actions by a single bank which is run by bankers is the only way the stock markets can rebound?

It's not the productivity, it's not about value, it's not about sales, jobs or about the general economy.

The FED must print more debt in order to pump the markets. THAT is the state of the world today. It's unreal.

A single bank.

One. Single. Bank. Crashed the world markets because they wanna.

The global financial world is screwed.By the way,the FED must print more dollars in order to pump the crypto markets as well.We are kinda screwed,but there is a way out of this.It's called mass crypto adoption.
FED is the god of the global finance and economy.Nobody can touch them.

[jjjfff]

No president wants to deal with the bad press that would come with letting the markets fall by it's own weight instead of inflating balloons to keep it from crashing into the ground as all presidents have done.

But if there is someone crazy enough to do it it could be Trump. He basically has two options:

1) Keep going with the QE's, "save" the stock market, but get critics by the ones that know what's going on.

2) Let markets crash by avoiding more QE's, blame the FED, make it clear to the public that the FED is a pretty obscure thing and work from there.

But let's not get too excited. Trump is most likely another Zionist puppet, so he isn't going to actually do nothing other than some controlled dissidence to keep the Alex Jones fanboys happy.

Agree 100%. IMO Trump will go with number 1 to get reelected. If he does indeed take on the FED he'll go down as the bravest American President ever. Nobody fucks with banks.

no way. trump aides have been confirming the FED chairman's job is safe. trump seems to be backing down; it's a fight he can't win. this is just a dog-and-pony show, a spectacle. trump is just scapegoating like he always does. he constantly makes a spectacle out of blaming others to avoid being blamed for anything (in this case, poor performance in the markets).

the markets have staged a decent recovery so far. i'm guessing that was the climax of FUD for a while.

I'm keeping my hopes up that Trump can at least bring public attention to the FED. If more people become aware of the FED's existence and what the FED really does then maybe in the future The People will do something about it.

The global financial world is screwed.By the way,the FED must print more dollars in order to pump the crypto markets as well.We are kinda screwed,but there is a way out of this.It's called mass crypto adoption.
FED is the god of the global finance and economy.Nobody can touch them.

You're absolutely right. The way to get crypto to fix the current financial mafia system is to get widespread adoption. We need shops, gas stations, landlords and other daily necessity providers to accept cryptos. Then things will begin to shift.

I also think the only way out of this current situation will be for them to print even more debt and screw us even more. Millenials and later generations are screwed, they'll work 20X more than earlier generations just to make up for the monetary theft by bankers.

[rodalutor]

They won't be able to keep saving it. At some point the USD will reach the point of no return when people actually wake up and start dumping it to buy goods, metals, crypto, whatever they can just to get rid of the dollar. At this point it will be too late for you to do anything if you are still a dolar holder at that point. Market crashes come suddenly and hit fast. One day it's all fine the next it's people standing in lines in front of their banks, and all ATMs are empty. You wake up, watch the news, and it's all in chaos.

It won't be people that trigger it, it will be countries or banks, the US owes so much in debt to many countries, mostly they're just allowed to renew it for some more time and pay a fee but if this starts to change then the US will have to print more money just to pay their debts and hyper-inflation will ensue.

[cabron]

Printing more usd will make it even crash deeper.
This is reason why those market can be so bad and so the 2008 crash will probably happen again. Once they go into Blockchain its going to gradual to head to the adoption. This is where it should be going, the paperless and crypto adoption.

[jjjfff]

Printing more usd will make it even crash deeper.
This is reason why those market can be so bad and so the 2008 crash will probably happen again. Once they go into Blockchain its going to gradual to head to the adoption. This is where it should be going, the paperless and crypto adoption.

They've been able to push a new 2008 farther and farther into the future by printing more money and generating debt for future generations.

It's a ponzi.

They won't be able to keep saving it. At some point the USD will reach the point of no return when people actually wake up and start dumping it to buy goods, metals, crypto, whatever they can just to get rid of the dollar. At this point it will be too late for you to do anything if you are still a dolar holder at that point. Market crashes come suddenly and hit fast. One day it's all fine the next it's people standing in lines in front of their banks, and all ATMs are empty. You wake up, watch the news, and it's all in chaos.

It won't be people that trigger it, it will be countries or banks, the US owes so much in debt to many countries, mostly they're just allowed to renew it for some more time and pay a fee but if this starts to change then the US will have to print more money just to pay their debts and hyper-inflation will ensue.

Notice how they're desperate about profits and corporate growth? If exponential growth stops, the whole system collapses.

World debt is sitting at over 200 trillion dollars right now. The truth is nobody will ever pay this debt.

The FED is cutting a few trillion U$ in its balance sheet, that won't make a dent. World debt is over 10 times multiple of USA's GDP.

Either they'll start a war or cause some other calamity in order to be able to "forget" this debt under some new Bretton Woods agreement.

[bitgolden]

FED can definitely save the stock market but at what cost? I mean does it really worth to save the stock market at the expense of the inflation and economic troubles in the long run? You can save the stock market on the short run but than you are making dollar less valuable, when a stock worth 100 dollars goes down to 90 dollars that is bad but when FED prints out money and makes the stock worth 120 dollars that is not instantly good because that 120 dollars is actually worth the 90 dollars after inflation adjusted.

Hence, there is no point of FED printing out money or even caring about the stock market, what you do not see is that all companies are responsible for their own actions so if a company gets bankrupted and goes belly up I am sorry but there are other people who are willing to start business and make it bigger, that would be better for the economy than supplying a failed one.

[jjjfff]

FED can definitely save the stock market but at what cost? I mean does it really worth to save the stock market at the expense of the inflation and economic troubles in the long run? You can save the stock market on the short run but than you are making dollar less valuable, when a stock worth 100 dollars goes down to 90 dollars that is bad but when FED prints out money and makes the stock worth 120 dollars that is not instantly good because that 120 dollars is actually worth the 90 dollars after inflation adjusted.

Hence, there is no point of FED printing out money or even caring about the stock market, what you do not see is that all companies are responsible for their own actions so if a company gets bankrupted and goes belly up I am sorry but there are other people who are willing to start business and make it bigger, that would be better for the economy than supplying a failed one.

Inflation doesn't happen if the money never reaches The People.

That's their end game. They don't really give a flying $$$$ about anything else.

[mu_enrico]

Stop QE:
I can't wait for the next financial crisis since it means that I can buy cheap assets.

More QE:
I can't wait for the next great depression since it means that I can buy cheap assets.

Me grab a cup of popcorn and prepare for the shit show.

[niublity]

I think this is a signal. When the Fed starts to buy back the stock market, it is the best time for investors to leave the stock market. Capitalists are quickly withdrawing. Usually saving is only temporary. When the economic collapse comes, the government can't stop it, so I sold all the stocks.

[jjjfff]

Stop QE:
I can't wait for the next financial crisis since it means that I can buy cheap assets.

More QE:
I can't wait for the next great depression since it means that I can buy cheap assets.

Me grab a cup of popcorn and prepare for the shit show.

And, just as you implied, the markets depend on QE. The FED controls the markets.