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He is currently in a row with YouTube regarding censorship as well, over a video posted by his daughter. As such, he seems to be trying to move to a decentralized video service, and has just uploaded lots of his lectures, Q&As and interviews to BitTube. For the people who were interested in seeing more of his stuff, you can access it here: https://bit.tube/jbpetersonIt's strange for a guy like Peterson, who claims to be fighting for freedom, to cry about censorship when a private company doesn't want to have business with him. Youtube and Patreon don't have any obligations before him, they aren't government companies and they can't be counter as public space.
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While I'm fine with Coinbase giving scum the boot - it's their business, their choice to choose who they do business with and as soon as you deposit Bitcoin there you have left a free and decentralised system - it is a bit of a taster of things to come. Youtube and Patreon don't have any obligations before him, they aren't government companies and they can't be counter as public space. I agree with you both. These are private companies and can host, or refuse to host, whichever people and viewpoints they like. And yes, if you don't like their terms and conditions, you are free to stop using their service and move elsewhere. I just have a general dislike whenever anybody - be it a person, company, government, university, etc - tries to decide which ideas other people are and are not allowed to hear. I'm more than capable of deciding that for myself, thanks.
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Is his lectures free at all? Genuinely curious.
Yes. He used to (still does?) teach at a couple of extremely prestigious American and Canadian universities and almost every one of his courses is recorded and uploaded in their entirety on his Youtube channel; assuming it stays up. He often makes it a point to say that he explicitly chooses not to put ads on his videos. People are likely just providing incentive for something they want to see continue, hence donations. I need to do research on the dude. All I've seen is him being on Joe Roegan's podcast.
Also, he should be using a SegWit address. 🤷
That's a good episode of the podcast. He should be using a SegWit address, but I imagine his son takes care of the technical aspect of most things; Bitcoin included. Blame Julian ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I believe the financial censorship that has been raging recently is going to cause a lot of big-names to seek something decentralized and without such capabilities. The reaction is going to be much more potent than the action, in this particular case. The fact that your political beliefs, or failure to comply with another's can result in your financial ruin simply because Paypal, Patreon, Youtube, etc. refuse to host those ideas means that Bitcoin is looking really good going into 2019.
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January 06, 2019, 04:27:47 AM |
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I enjoy Jordan Peterson Listened to all his podcasts and have never donated via patreon
I will likely send him $5 worth of BTC
Not sure why people hate on him for accepting BTC donations
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January 06, 2019, 04:33:21 AM |
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Well just a bit drama of it putting some btc on his wallet so that everyone will going to follow. Charities and other foundations work were also considered as business. You can nake much money on it by asking people to donate so that you can continue your good deeds by putting a video showing how selfless you are and kind. People will get sympathy and will donate. I just wish that I was wrong. LOL
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January 06, 2019, 05:04:36 AM |
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Maybe he gives something different for people live, so people are willing to donate some money to him. We know that if we can give something benefits to other people, we will get the other benefits, it's a law attraction. We don't know what actually he did before, but we only know that he accepts the donation from many people and day by day, the donation amount still increase. As we speak, I see his balance 1.43300837 BTC. Wow, its fast collecting money from the people ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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January 06, 2019, 08:55:48 AM |
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I can't be bothered to figure out what this bloke's schtick is, though he seems to annoy lots and lots of people.
Even if I did develop an understanding, why the fuck should I give him any money for the ejaculations of his mind? Is he planning to give me some for reading them?
I believe you didn't get the context, and how significant this is for Bitcoin and censorship-resistance. Jordan Peterson is being deplatformed and censored, Bitcoin will help him keep going. A demonstration of the power of a decentralized form of "money".
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Jordan Peterson is being deplatformed and censored, Bitcoin will help him keep going. Not quite. He is voluntary leaving Patreon as a protest against Patreon deplatforming other people based on their political views. Also, the man worked full time as a professor of psychology at the universities of Toronto and Harvard, as well as having a full clinical practice of 20 patients a week. He gave up both to instead give guest lectures, interviews, Q&As, panels, author books, etc, which all pay well. Any time he wanted to, he could go back in to private clinical practice, which also pays very well. Sure, he was probably making a lot of money through Patreon, but he's not exactly counting on donations to "help him keep going".
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Jordan Peterson is being deplatformed and censored, Bitcoin will help him keep going. Not quite. He is voluntary leaving Patreon as a protest against Patreon deplatforming other people based on their political views. Also, the man worked full time as a professor of psychology at the universities of Toronto and Harvard, as well as having a full clinical practice of 20 patients a week. He gave up both to instead give guest lectures, interviews, Q&As, panels, author books, etc, which all pay well. Any time he wanted to, he could go back in to private clinical practice, which also pays very well. Sure, he was probably making a lot of money through Patreon, but he's not exactly counting on donations to "help him keep going". But having the same effect if he starts accepting Bitcoin, and tell the users who were banned from Patreon, to follow his move as a protest against censorship, and a journey towards censorship-resistance. The honey badger does not care. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 07, 2019, 06:56:00 AM |
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I guess some people are drawn to people who think out of the box and when they value their outlook on life and their views on controversial topics, then they feel obligated to donate money to them. He is now turning away from Patreon and trying to create a new platform where freedom of speech is encouraged, no matter how controversial it might be.
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January 07, 2019, 11:50:56 AM |
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But having the same effect if he starts accepting Bitcoin, and tell the users who were banned from Patreon, to follow his move as a protest against censorship, and a journey towards censorship-resistance. True, and he is a fairly well known (albeit controversial) speaker. Perhaps this is where the next wave of adoption comes from - speakers and users abandoning platforms pushing their own agenda of censorship and moving towards decentralized platforms, and taking all their fans with them. Having said that, in that scenario I would fully expect the opponents of these controversial figures to start claiming that bitcoin is enabling hate-speech, or something equally stupid.
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January 07, 2019, 01:25:16 PM |
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I am sure that that members of this forum is not the man's market but one thing is sure that he can be doing well accepting Bitcoin for donations for the work he is doing and whether we agree with things he is into what can not be denied is that the donations are coming. Well, we have to understand that with billions of people all around the world one can easily find the niche he can work with and a captured audience can be find elsewhere even with view we don't agree or may not be mainstream. I am sure that there can be others that can inspired to also use Bitcoin as the medium to accept donations (and I think there are already many doing this but of course their success may not be worth mentioning).
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Well he might have probably seeing the easy as to doing transactions with bitcoin
This would get more authors or others in various sectors to get involved even more
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This is all bitcoin that's about to get immediately dumped. Donors are contributing to price drops. Unless Peterson starts actively working towards merchant adoption, that is...
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But having the same effect if he starts accepting Bitcoin, and tell the users who were banned from Patreon, to follow his move as a protest against censorship, and a journey towards censorship-resistance. True, and he is a fairly well known (albeit controversial) speaker. Perhaps this is where the next wave of adoption comes from - speakers and users abandoning platforms pushing their own agenda of censorship and moving towards decentralized platforms, and taking all their fans with them. Having said that, in that scenario I would fully expect the opponents of these controversial figures to start claiming that bitcoin is enabling hate-speech, or something equally stupid. An easy response would be, "What Bitcoin enables is freedom to transact with anyone, to and from anywhere in the world, without banks, or middlemen, or the need to trust anyone". It truly works, and the blockchain is the only type of ledger you can buy drugs with. Try it! Hahaha.
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I would not send him any BTC but the guy seems to know what he is talking about and most of the time makes logical arguments. If you have never heard of the guy I suggest you watch his interviews with Joe Rogan. The guy who got Elon Musk to smoke weed on his podcast.
Just youtube Joe Rogan Experience and Jordan Peterson, you might not agree with his vision but maybe you will learn something from him.
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January 09, 2019, 10:53:42 AM |
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the donation is too small for only $ 800 and it is in the form of bitcoin, so it seems that it does not have significance and is not too special, at least donations that are suitable for bitcoin must have more than 1 bitcoin so that the world will be in an uproar.
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January 09, 2019, 04:04:59 PM |
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the donation is too small for only $ 800 and it is in the form of bitcoin, so it seems that it does not have significance and is not too special, at least donations that are suitable for bitcoin must have more than 1 bitcoin so that the world will be in an uproar.
Did you check the address at all https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1JDQ2Q1pP5jS8epKbCmifd5ZMoBqaGcMTH , the address has more than 1.4BTC currently close $6000, this is interesting because to me it seems people are just sending funds to the address just to sympathize with him or maybe to promote BTC and thanks goodness now the transaction fees have gone down
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January 09, 2019, 06:12:45 PM |
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Jordan Peterson is being deplatformed and censored, Bitcoin will help him keep going. Not quite. He is voluntary leaving Patreon as a protest against Patreon deplatforming other people based on their political views. Peterson is demonstrating poor judgement. The "political views" of the person he's defending are all part of a curious trend to (in effect) demonstrate that the only people that need free speech in 21st century faux-liberalism are football gang members and corporate apologists. "Liberal? How selfish. And racist!" is the effect that these people are achieving in practice. Peterson is foolish to associate with such people, which is strange when he otherwise seems so smart.
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