Fix trust rating

[pinkgeldof]

 I have a negative trust rating, despite the fact I have never traded

How is this possible?  It seems like an abuse to me. Also I have no idea who gave me this negative rating; although I suspect that I was given this negative trust rating from psychotic users after I asked for a loan and they accused me(with zero proof) of trying to scam users (which I wasn't and as result of their abuse did not seek a loan anymore) and also I've seen many other newbies attacked when they asked for loans no matter how small or how much collateral they provide.

I find this very unfortunate and as result now I don't really want to use bitcointalk. I have participated alot after I started the account and one topic I started has over 150 replies and over 1000 views.  But I don't want to participate when I have a big smear on my username and one unfairly added.

I hope this is fixed.

[bitmover]

I have a negative trust rating, despite the fact I have never traded

How is this possible?  It seems like an abuse to me. Also I have no idea who gave me this negative rating; although I suspect that I was given this negative trust rating from psychotic users after I asked for a loan and they accused me(with zero proof) of trying to scam users (which I wasn't and as result of their abuse did not seek a loan anymore) and also I've seen many other newbies attacked when they asked for loans no matter how small or how much collateral they provide.

I find this very unfortunate and as result now I don't really want to use bitcointalk. I have participated alot after I started the account and one topic I started has over 150 replies and over 1000 views.  But I don't want to participate when I have a big smear on my username and one unfairly added.

I hope this is fixed.

You didn't trade, but you tried to do a suspicious activity. As a newbie, offering to receive 0.1 BTC will likely result in a scam. Why didn't you asked for a smaller value, or waited until you made some deals to make this big loan?

You have two main options.

-continue using the forum, trying to rebuild and fix your reputation.
-leave the forum.

[odolvlobo]

I feel like the situation was well-explained in the thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088670.0). A newbie looking for a no-collateral loan (to be used as collateral even) is a common way to scam people. A lack of trust seems warranted to me.

Here is where you can get the trust info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2511031

Anyway, it doesn't prevent you from participating in the forums, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[o_e_l_e_o]

This thread would be better off in Reputation. You can move it with the link in the lower left.

Trust ratings do not depend on a trade taking place:

It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.

Newbies who ask for a loan of any value without offering acceptable collateral receive a negative rating. This is quite clearly stated (in bright red lettering) in the stickied thread in the Lending Board entitled "The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!", which I have no doubt you ignored:

If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%.

You have a grand total of 28 posts, and several of them are simply you insulting other members. I would hardly call that "participated alot".* The thread you started is a spamfest and should be locked.

You can either read the rules and change your behavior accordingly, or you can leave. The choice is yours.


* "alot" is not a word.

[pinkgeldof]

1. I offered collateral.  
2. I insulted people who insulted me, if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. You can't expect to be offensive and not be offended in return. Real life isn't a safe space.
3. I started posting less because of the psychos at this board( common enough with geeks probably because of self-esteem issues/being picked on growing up). But when I was really posting those posts were popular, it is still a popular threads on bitcointalk(up to 8 pages now). It's a sad thing that you discourage new members from participating and you treat a discussion form about a coin that is supposed to be about among other thing 'freedom;, as some nazi rule laden byzantine place.

4. I will 'leave' the forum when I feel like it (or if you crybabies ban me after this post) and then I'll make a new name(if I don't already have one made as a back-up) and post under a different IP hahahaha,muhahahahahaa.  

[elda34b]

There is no way you can fix your trust rating, as it seems DT members think you're using the same modus operandi by people who scam others. Better leave the forum if you don't agree with the way this forum works, namecalling or arguing won't help. Just continue your life, move on.

[mk4]

1. I offered collateral.  
2. I insulted people who insulted me, if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. You can't expect to be offensive and not be offended in return. Real life isn't a safe space.

Your negative trust wasn't because of the sort of "trashtalking" from both sides. You could trashtalk without receiving a negative trust. It's solely due to your shady loan.

3. I started posting less because of the psychos at this board( common enough with geeks probably because of self-esteem issues/being picked on growing up). But when I was really posting those posts were popular, it is still a popular threads on bitcointalk(up to 8 pages now). It's a sad thing that you discourage new members from participating and you treat a discussion form about a coin that is supposed to be about among other thing 'freedom;, as some nazi rule laden byzantine place.

You can freely discuss and participate with people here even if you have a good number of negative trust ratings.

[o_e_l_e_o]

1. I offered collateral.

At no point in your post did you offer collateral. Your only mention of collateral was to state that you were going to use the loan as collateral for another loan, which is shady in and of itself:

Hi,
I know i am a noob so I hope this does not hurt me, I can provide whatever proof or trustworthiness from other sites I am more established at in a PM.

I am looking for a micro loan of .10; I am going to use this as collateral to get a loan on a mainstream bitloan lender. Then to use that to get a bigger one and after that leveraged futures. I am successful in applying a method of trading with leverage used in equity options and futures to bitcoin. 

I would be willing to accept a lower loan too to establish trust and I would like to hopefully establish a relationship with one or more lenders here will who lend to me in the future on a regular basis.

I would also pay higher interest rate around 10 percent(at first anyway) and I would repay the loan within a week, if not days.

2. I insulted people who insulted me, if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. You can't expect to be offensive and not be offended in return. Real life isn't a safe space.

A statement of fact regarding your intention to take a loan without collateral to use as collateral for another loan is not an insult. Calling people "3rd world" and "monkey brains" is.

3. I started posting less because of the psychos at this board( common enough with geeks probably because of self-esteem issues/being picked on growing up). But when I was really posting those posts were popular, it is still a popular threads on bitcointalk(up to 8 pages now). It's a sad thing that you discourage new members from participating and you treat a discussion form about a coin that is supposed to be about among other thing 'freedom;, as some nazi rule laden byzantine place.

Following the clearly stated rules does not make users either psychos or nazi. No one is discouraging you from participating, we are simply warning others not to get involved in your obvious scam attempt. Good job with getting extra insults in though - you are really helping your case.

4. I will 'leave' the forum when I feel like it (or if you crybabies ban me after this post) and then I'll make a new name(if I don't already have one made as a back-up) and post under a different IP hahahaha,muhahahahahaa.

You will not get banned for attempting to scam, which again, you would know if at any point you had bothered to read the rules. In addition to the thread I've already linked you, you would do well to read the following threads as well:

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
[EDU] How to spot a scammer (Read this before lending your coins!)
[EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

[Yeahpro]

I see no mention of a collateral in the reference, and considering the No collateral, no loan rule you post is unsavory and raises questions of trust.

You can check out Vod's guideline for removing red trust he put, as only the person who gave the red trust can remove it.
I do not always agree with DT decisions, but I do in this case

[Distinctin]

Reading at the comment on your rating, it seems like you are asking bigger loan with a very low collateral.
That negative trust will remain because of your bad action, you should be more careful since you are a newbie, it's already a common sense that
no one would grant you a loan without an acceptable collateral.

Learn from that, mate.

No abuse here.

[marlboroza]

1. I offered collateral. 

You did not.

You have tried to take 0.1BTC loan without collateral with brand new account which has no reputation. Then you've tried to take 0.8BTC loan using..."some bitcoins" as collateral.

I don't see anything wrong with your trust wall, stop wasting everyone's time.

[mikeywith]

I posted a whole topic in  regards to "regulating" DT trust for feedbacks that are not based on "trading" manners, so i thought you got tagged for trolling or some other silly reason, but when i looked at the reason why you got it, it only makes sense that you deserved it, regardless of your "intention", since nobody is able to read your mind , it is safe to think that the chances of you trying to "scam" are pretty high, it is like someone walking into the bank wearing a mask, while he could be doing it for fun , chances are he is planning to rob the back.

[S_Therapist]

I posted a whole topic in  regards to "regulating" DT trust for feedbacks that are not based on "trading" manners, so i thought you got tagged for trolling or some other silly reason, but when i looked at the reason why you got it, it only makes sense that you deserved it,

I got a negative feedback from a stupid for only let him know that trust is not moderated and arguing against his opinion on it.. It can be one of the worst negative feedback I have seen.

And his opinion after giving me negative feedback-

It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
As per the rules, I don't see any problem with your rating. You got what you deserve, simple.

Based on your comment i just gave you a negativ feedback calling you a scammer and alt of quickseller.

Of course i have no proof but who cares......noone cares if my ratings are legit so why should someone care if your's are legit and based on your comment its completly fine.

I am thinking of creating a thread on it, not for removing my feedback, but to have some open discussion on such kinda feedback although this barely affects anyone's trust.

The main point is that if someone gets a feedback, there is nothing to do but to contact with the feedback providor. If OP thinks he didn't violated the forum (although he did), he may contact with respective person. There is no meaning of creating a thread here.