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January 01, 2019, 10:39:10 PM
Last edit: January 02, 2019, 01:15:37 AM by po1zon
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Paid $50 for some azure accounts, never delivered nor replied back.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9359

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5084911.msg48998945#msg48998945
Amount Scammed: 50 USD
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: 6747050cb34422d9d28e8cdefec06ddf9d7d54f4e809867e7fd8246f92f67d15
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January 01, 2019, 11:20:36 PM
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Paid $50 for some azure accounts, never delivered nor replied back. Here's the original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5084911.msg48998945#msg48998945

Format your accusation properly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

implement a better system

There is a system, it's called "not being and idiot". What exactly prevented you from using escrow? Or reading user's feedback?
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January 01, 2019, 11:26:50 PM
Last edit: January 02, 2019, 01:16:41 AM by The Pharmacist
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The MrGaSp account has obviously been sold or hacked.  His posts in 2012 looked like this (and notice he says his business servers are located in Oregon, which is in the US:

If you every decide to offer windows in the future let me know (PM) I'll gladly buy.

Keep your eyes out for a new service called VPS Squared, in a few years.  Probably make an official company, Dedicated IPs, Control panels, and all that good stuff.  Either way, I will start up a VPS service again.  Maybe even offer Co-Location...I like the idea of it, but I like having the server near by, So I'll be likely hosting my own network, so why not offer Co-Location to others that wont charge 100+/h for technician hands..
Will I still get that 10% off for that 5 BTC loan/donation a while ago?

I don't see why not =)

I may just be blind, but where are the servers hosted?

Also-- Do you plan on adding more operating systems any time? I'm interested in a windows VPS and VPS with debian 6 on it.

Oregon, USA

And then one of his most recent posts is completely inconsistent with him being anywhere near the US, plus his posts used to be in good English and have morphed into typical bounty shitposts:

I always wanted to buy a laptop and smartphone using my bitcoins but unfortunately there are no shops in my country that accepts bitcoin as a mode of payment as very few people are aware about it and govt has a strict regulations on using bitcoins so even people have bitcoins in their wallet they are afraid of using it and I don't think that Government in my country will ever come in support of bitcoins.

In addition, there is an enormous post gap between 2013-2017, and his posts in 2017 immediately started becoming almost of uniform character length, just like you see with low-quality signature shitposters, and in addition those posts babbled on about obvious things that sound like a 14 year old's observations of the world.  

So I'm going to tag him for the account being hacked/sold at least.  

Possibly an alt of this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=968620
Already red-trusted, sent merits to MrGaSp's scam thread. Another red flag in its own right if anyone's counting.
Negged that guy too, for the link EcuaMobi referenced and mentioned the possible merit abuse and/or link to MrGaSp.

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January 01, 2019, 11:40:51 PM
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The MrGaSp account has obviously been sold or hacked.  His posts in 2012 looked like this (and notice he says his business servers are located in Oregon, which is in the US:

Possibly an alt of this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=968620

Already red-trusted, sent merits to MrGaSp's scam thread. Another red flag in its own right if anyone's counting.
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January 02, 2019, 01:11:26 AM
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There is a system, it's called "not being and idiot". What exactly prevented you from using escrow? Or reading user's feedback?


Yes I know, was kinda in a rush will need to do more research next time. Still I think some kind of system in place that wouldn't allow them to sell before being vouched would deter many scammers to even try shit like this. Currently it's very easy, just post and get people to msg you on skype and scam them. Many users don't even have accounts on the forum and just browse as guests.
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January 02, 2019, 01:30:30 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2019, 03:04:12 AM by suchmoon
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Yes I know, was kinda in a rush will need to do more research next time. Still I think some kind of system in place that wouldn't allow them to sell before being vouched would deter many scammers to even try shit like this. Currently it's very easy, just post and get people to msg you on skype and scam them. Many users don't even have accounts on the forum and just browse as guests.

I'm afraid any kind of endorsement from the forum would make it worse. Scammers would still sneak in (like the one who got you - via purchased/hacked account) and users would be even less diligent (because of vouching).
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January 02, 2019, 01:39:32 AM
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Yes I know, was kinda in a rush will need to do more research next time. Still I think some kind of system in place that wouldn't allow them to sell before being vouched would deter many scammers to even try shit like this. Currently it's very easy, just post and get people to msg you on skype and scam them. Many users don't even have accounts on the forum and just browse as guests.

I'm afraid any kind of endorsement from the forum would make it worse. Scammers would still sneak in (like the who got you - via purchased/hacked account) and users would be even less diligent (because of vouching).

Yea I guess so, his high level "merit" is what got me. Will he at least get banned?

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I also just noticed this "This user's email address was changed recently." For sure a sold account.
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January 02, 2019, 03:03:52 AM
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Yea I guess so, his high level "merit" is what got me. Will he at least get banned?

No. Scams are not moderated.
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January 02, 2019, 11:21:38 PM
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If someone tagged him when i reported him that would never happened ....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086244
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January 02, 2019, 11:30:19 PM
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If someone tagged him when i reported him that would never happened ....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086244
I posted in that thread that the evidence you provided there wasn't good enough IMO for him to be tagged, and I didn't investigate further.  Had I done so, he would have been tagged, but I'm human with only so many hours in a day to bust account buyers.  In addition, even if I'd tagged him when you made that thread, there's absolutely no guarantee that it would have affected OP's transaction with MrGaSp. 

Some members completely ignore trust ratings, and many might just ignore a tag that says the account might be hacked/purchased.  What you're saying is "I told you so".  You might be right, you might be wrong.  In any case, I regret not looking into his history earlier.

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January 02, 2019, 11:51:55 PM
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That's why he should be banned. He's out there posting and finish for scams.
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That's why he should be banned. He's out there posting and finish for scams.

And there are probably a couple hundred others just like him.  This forum doesn't moderate scams (or delete users that are so obvious like sellers with 30-40 negs over 1-2 years "business") so by that they are condoning it. This forum has a "rep" for just that and sadly it brings the scammers here.

That being said, if you do your "due diligence" BEFORE buying you are a lot less likely to get scammed.  Generally the "if it seems to good to be true" theory hold here.  Sorry you lost your coin.  Been there, done that.
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January 03, 2019, 09:00:18 AM
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If someone tagged him when i reported him that would never happened ....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086244
I posted in that thread that the evidence you provided there wasn't good enough IMO for him to be tagged, and I didn't investigate further.  Had I done so, he would have been tagged, but I'm human with only so many hours in a day to bust account buyers.  In addition, even if I'd tagged him when you made that thread, there's absolutely no guarantee that it would have affected OP's transaction with MrGaSp. 

Some members completely ignore trust ratings, and many might just ignore a tag that says the account might be hacked/purchased.  What you're saying is "I told you so".  You might be right, you might be wrong.  In any case, I regret not looking into his history earlier.
I didn't blame you for  anything? The thread i made was public and  there is  other DT members than you, but no one take  action.
You are not forced to take care of all the threads created against people, there is other people who had chance to take action against this guy.
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January 03, 2019, 09:16:08 AM
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I didn't blame you for  anything? The thread i made was public and  there is  other DT members than you, but no one take  action.
You are not forced to take care of all the threads created against people, there is other people who had chance to take action against this guy.
No, you didn't blame me for anything, I didn't say you did.  However, there aren't many other DT members who tag account sellers and bought accounts consistently.  That's been my area for the past couple of years, and lately I've been slacking.  That post was just me berating myself for not seeing it in time, not you for saying you warned everyone--because you did.

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