Feds raising rates

[bitcoinsc]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

[davis196]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

The influence of FED's interest rates will impact the crypto prices with a big time lag.
What do you mean by "prep for standard of living than investing"?I don't get that.
I couldn't care less about credit card companies blocking bitcoin buying.Just use localbitcoins and no credit card company can track your btc purchases.

[tenakha]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

IMO we are just deluding ourselves. There is always this kind of news. When the new year was near, everyone guesses that the price will go down because the owners will sell their Bitcoins but the price is still the same as before. There are always news that can influence the price but news that can take price down appear when price goes down.

What do you mean by "prep for standard of living than investing"?I don't get that.

All he wants to say is '' As people need to prep (prepare) for standard of living than investing ''.

[cizatext]

The fed raising the rate is just a means of them generating higher revenue and support they government, but the bitcoin market will still fine a way of recovering and raising in price at every situations. The feds laws will affect bitcoin market no daught but with time bitcoin is going to get over it.

[eminemcookie]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

Increased interest rates should in theory lower investment in to bitcoin if there is any significant relationship. High interest rates encourage saving and discourage borrowing. In other words people are more likely to leave their money sat in the bank than investing in, in most people's eyes bitcoin is an investment at the end of the day.

[sana54210]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

Feds raising doesn't really drop the bitcoin price. It has an indirect effect which makes the investment companies to be able to relax a bit and not worry about the upcoming "doomsday" scenario like the 2008 one but in reality it is just a temporary fix on a leaking ship.

After all, I think this just doesn't make bitcoin go low but makes sure bitcoin will go up anytime they take their hand away from the leaking hole. Hence rates are fine for us, yes it might stop the increasing for a while but definitely doesn't make it decreasing too. It makes it neutral for all of us in crypto. With this rate increasing we clearly see that no matter how much they try the system is broken and eventually it will be insane to not have bitcoin since dollar loses value quite rapidly.

[Febo]

If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher?

No. Bitcoin is in bear market and that is what come after Bull market. Since Bitcoin is not mature yet, this Bear and Bull markets are so strong. No matter what would happen in world Bitcoin would lost lots of value last year. Soon things will change.

[Crypdon]

Fed raising rates will have a negative impact on everything. However, it is likely to affect the stock markets more. Crypto investors follow the fluctuations in bitcoin mining difficulty and during special events like the halving

[Vaculin]

The fed raising the rate is just a means of them generating higher revenue and support they government, but the bitcoin market will still fine a way of recovering and raising in price at every situations. The feds laws will affect bitcoin market no daught but with time bitcoin is going to get over it.

Bitcoin is a big market, this is not just a company where it can easy be affected in any changes the government will product.
Sure, it would impact the economy but this things may just be temporary only, and we have two people in crypto, those who are using the tech and those who are investing.

Investors are those who understands that they need to only invest a funds not allocated to basic needs.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

What do you mean by "prep for standard of living than investing"?I don't get that.

All he wants to say is '' As people need to prep (prepare) for standard of living than investing ''.

Which doesn't make sense grammatically and I have no clue as to what he means, really.

Investors tend to sell off losing investments toward the end of the year as they can write them off on their taxes.  Stocks usually go down in December as a result, but bitcoin has been flat--not a surprise since I don't think a lot of bitcoiners mention anything about bitcoin on their tax forms. 

This interest rate hike has been a long time coming.  People have been getting cheap money for years now, and it's no wonder the stock market exploded in the past decade.  I looked at the DJIA today and it's down quite a bit, but I was actually surprised it wasn't down more.  The Fed has been reluctant to raise interest rates, because they've been trying to stimulate the economy since 2009 and don't want to pop the stock market "bubble".  It's not really a bubble, but if they raise rates too much, too fast, the market could crash pretty hard.

[bitcoinsc]

What do you mean by "prep for standard of living than investing"?I don't get that.

All he wants to say is '' As people need to prep (prepare) for standard of living than investing ''.
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yes thats what i meant.

[exstasie]

This interest rate hike has been a long time coming.  People have been getting cheap money for years now, and it's no wonder the stock market exploded in the past decade.  I looked at the DJIA today and it's down quite a bit, but I was actually surprised it wasn't down more.  The Fed has been reluctant to raise interest rates, because they've been trying to stimulate the economy since 2009 and don't want to pop the stock market "bubble". 

Do you think Bitcoin has benefited from this cheap money? Some of it probably trickled into the crypto market, right? People say stocks and Bitcoin aren't related, and I agree they aren't directly related. But I think there's a good chance they are indirectly related based on the global market cycle (economic expansion vs. contraction) and investor sentiment. If we see a replay of the 2008 crisis, it'll be interesting to see what happens to Bitcoin and whether it can maintain the long term uptrend.

[audaciousbeing]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

I don't think the decision by the feds and its effect on the economy is targeted against bitcoin or crypto currency in general because the economy is much more bigger than that with several factors to be considered even most importantly the people who have not heard anything about bitcoin. Since time immemorial feds have been raising and reducing interest rates as they deem it fit in achieving set objectives. The way out is for individual to see every period to actions as an opportunity rather than focusing on the forces against the crypto world.

[aoluain]

The fed raising the rate is just a means of them generating higher revenue and support they government, but the bitcoin market will still fine a way of recovering and raising in price at every situations. The feds laws will affect bitcoin market no daught but with time bitcoin is going to get over it.

Bitcoin is a big market, this is not just a company where it can easy be affected in any changes the government will product.
Sure, it would impact the economy but this things may just be temporary only, and we have two people in crypto, those who are using the tech and those who are investing.

Investors are those who understands that they need to only invest a funds not allocated to basic needs.

And bitcoin is a global currency, it is not solely used un the U.S although
i think sometimss people forget that.

The movements of the Federal Reserve of America mean little to bitcoiners
in Europe, Asia, Africa or Australia.

[michellee]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

It depends on people itself because they decide to buy bitcoin or not. But for people who realize about bitcoin and they want to have a digital asset, I am sure they will spend some money to buy bitcoin while they will use the other money to fill their needs. People will figure out how to solve that, and I am sure that people now become smart to decide their life. But I don't think it will stop bitcoin to increase higher because bitcoin will find a way to increase the price.

[fiomcorka]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

There is nothing like Feds raising the rate of Bitcoin, Bitcoin has nothing to do with Feds raising rates or whatever. This your point is not making any sense, Bitcoin is unreliable of anything, it can only be reliable of people’s rate of demand and the supply. And I will also like to add that the price going up doesn’t mean that it will experience high rate of adoption, even if it goes up, it doesn’t change the fact that it is volatile.

[jjjfff]

The FED fully controls the markets. The debt they've printed is impossible to pay. All they can do now is print more money to prop up the markets.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-investors-its-time-to-hear-the-ugly-truth-2019-01-05

For years critics of U.S. central-bank policy have been dismissed as Negative Nellies, but the ugly truth is staring us in the face: Stock-market advances remain a game of artificial liquidity and central-bank jawboning, not organic growth. And now the jig is up.

[mindrust]

They are not only raising the rates, they are also reducing their balance sheets which means they are destroying millions of USD.


https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm

They burned $400billion since last December. Do you think it was a coincidence btc bubble also popped right after? There are no coincidences in finance.

If they keep doing this, like Tone Vays said, BTC can even see sub $1k levels. (then a million)

I think FED will give up though. Unless they are ready for another world war.

There is more:

They fucking aim to lower the balance sheets to sub $3trillion levels.


https://www.investopedia.com/insights/how-will-fed-reduce-balance-sheet/

The last picture I posted screams DISASTER

[horrifiedx1]

The feds raising rates in q4. It should effect Bitcoin. As people need to prep for standard of living than investing. If feds didn't raise rates would Bitcoin have gone higher? First the credit cards company blocks Bitcoin buying. Then the feds raises rates. Effecting the economy in such a way people are not investing. Bitcoin will find a way to increase. It just takes time. I think the data shows fed want to raise rate partly because of Bitcoin. Maybe or maybe not.

There is nothing like Feds raising the rate of Bitcoin, Bitcoin has nothing to do with Feds raising rates or whatever. This your point is not making any sense, Bitcoin is unreliable of anything, it can only be reliable of people’s rate of demand and the supply. And I will also like to add that the price going up doesn’t mean that it will experience high rate of adoption, even if it goes up, it doesn’t change the fact that it is volatile.

in my opinion it has nothing to do with bitcoin about it. as you say, indeed the price of bitcoin is purely from demand and supply, and indeed the news becomes influential in this matter to influence the psychology of investors, even though the government is the facilitator of btc development, but the rate is not related