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January 09, 2019, 04:58:37 PM
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On the other hand, people should know better by now. At one point every centralized exchange will ask you to verify yourself one way or another, so don't assume your exchange will grant you unverified withdrawals for ever.

And this is want we're seeking right now and I'm sure that it will be the norm in the future. Before it was just simply your name or birth date or just national id. But since some governments pressured exchanges, they will ask you to pass additional info and requiring full KYC because you can withdraw.

One can argue that this whole KYC laws on crypto is a good step towards mass adoption. So we will have to see and just be careful of letting your funds sit on a exchange as you might find it a bit irritating to withdraw huge amount now that they're requiring strict KYC compliance.

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I really don't get KYC especially those companies that seem never had existed public information and also the fact that some can allow and some cannot. I know the place where the company is registered makes the difference. But why they need to make it hard to do. Why they can't use only one KYC solution?


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Most of exchange currently required KYC to get verified accounts and if we want to used them then nothing we can do besides following their policy and before use particular exchange i think you have to find some review from other users regarding term of service from those exchange that they use KYC or not and i think necessary especially if you want to avoid KYC



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January 10, 2019, 08:48:55 AM
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I noticed Strange thing Some or most of the exchanges (require KYC to withdraw) - This is no problem

But Allow users to Deposit Even if they are not Complete KYC (in exchange require KYC) - Here the problem

after that exchange do not allow withdraw Their money !!

why this ?!

Why they allow them to deposit before Complete KYC

They say we follow the law Does the law recommend doing so? Something weird!

Often exchanges hide KYC paragraph (in Privacy Policy or Usage Policy) Or users do not know Only when They want withdraw!!

what I think from like this exchanges They want Attract Volume Without regard to the interest of users

I hope the post on the right place if not Please Tell me right place
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In Binance, you don't have to complete KYC and you could deposit and withdraw your balance but for people who don't complete KYC, they could only make a request withdraw for less than 2 btc. I wonder which exchange you are talking about because once we complete KYC, we can raise bigger withdraw.

But on poloniex and bittrex, you must complete KYC to continue trading and you will also raise your level and you can withdraw bigger balance from your account.

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January 10, 2019, 02:43:07 PM
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which exchange you are talking about because once we complete KYC, we can raise bigger withdraw.

That's true..
for example OKex but after test toady They have levels This is good
But it may ask other documents Some cases (Always prepare for the worst)

These days can not be ignored KYC Laws (Necessary)

and sure if they support country or not - important






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January 10, 2019, 05:24:30 PM
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which exchange you are talking about because once we complete KYC, we can raise bigger withdraw.

That's true..
for example OKex but after test toady They have levels This is good
But it may ask other documents Some cases (Always prepare for the worst)

These days can not be ignored KYC Laws (Necessary)

and sure if they support country or not - important


Too absurd that you can possibly have a video verification on just having a withdrawal.? It seems they are going too far or just imposing too strict KYC compliance.
Sooner or later as exchange users we wont really have any choice but to comply if majority of them would go to the same process.



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January 10, 2019, 07:14:42 PM
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I really don't get KYC especially those companies that seem never had existed public information and also the fact that some can allow and some cannot.
If you personally doubt the company even after you research them and your gut tells you no then its personally the time to back out for that company. It's your instincts saying that they will use your personal info for other purposes.

I know the place where the company is registered makes the difference. But why they need to make it hard to do. Why they can't use only one KYC solution?
You cannot really have a one solution for KYC in which it can be submitted to everything. For one not all companies have the same laws and kyc requirements being followed that is why each exchange have a rather different KYC requirement which vary from each one of them. So a one KYC solution is really not suitable for the current system we have.

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January 11, 2019, 01:09:41 AM
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What exchange are we talking about?
Please tell us before going any further.

KYC regulations come into play at time of account opening. Before the customer is allowed to make the smallest deposit. If it's not that way, it's most probably a scam. Run away fast, and let us know who are those bad guys, so that everybady can avoid them.

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I didn't find such an exchange platform which are required KYC. I can propose to use in future some alternative exchange service which will be used modern technology to make fast and safety transaction. I think DEXAGE will one of such platform.

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January 16, 2019, 08:31:09 AM
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I noticed Strange thing Some or most of the exchanges (require KYC to withdraw) - This is no problem

But Allow users to Deposit Even if they are not Complete KYC (in exchange require KYC) - Here the problem

after that exchange do not allow withdraw Their money !!

why this ?!

Why they allow them to deposit before Complete KYC

They say we follow the law Does the law recommend doing so? Something weird!

Often exchanges hide KYC paragraph (in Privacy Policy or Usage Policy) Or users do not know Only when They want withdraw!!

what I think from like this exchanges They want Attract Volume Without regard to the interest of users

I hope the post on the right place if not Please Tell me right place
Sorry if the translation Incorrect !

You're absolutely right, and it's great that you're bringing this topic up because I think it's definitely been underdiscussed.

Not only are there exchanges that ask you for KYC information only when you withdraw, there are also sportsbooks, casinos, and hosted wallets that do the same thing. A remember that a recent case is with Changenow.io, with them asking for identification on a customer that actually had quite a large transaction with them even though they used to advertise themselves as anonymous.

None of them will ever ask you to offer verification documents before you want to get funds out of their platform.

IMHO, these sites are completely untrustworthy and unprofessional, and should be avoided even if you are willing to provide them. It seems like a blatant excuse to hold funds in the name of KYC. A lot of the times, they aren't even legally obligated to do this, even though they argue this way.

If you want to implement KYC, do so before any deposits can be made. Don't do it after.

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January 16, 2019, 01:55:33 PM
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You're absolutely right, and it's great that you're bringing this topic up because I think it's definitely been underdiscussed.

Not only are there exchanges that ask you for KYC information only when you withdraw, there are also sportsbooks, casinos, and hosted wallets that do the same thing. A remember that a recent case is with Changenow.io, with them asking for identification on a customer that actually had quite a large transaction with them even though they used to advertise themselves as anonymous.

None of them will ever ask you to offer verification documents before you want to get funds out of their platform.

IMHO, these sites are completely untrustworthy and unprofessional, and should be avoided even if you are willing to provide them. It seems like a blatant excuse to hold funds in the name of KYC. A lot of the times, they aren't even legally obligated to do this, even though they argue this way.

If you want to implement KYC, do so before any deposits can be made. Don't do it after.
The question is? How you would able to select if you arent aware if that's their way of asking KYC unless if you do able to read up feed backs about that then we can eventually avoid it

I do remember the recent case of Changenow and im aint surprise that most of similar services would really act just the same where claiming to be anonymous then suddenly they turn
into the opposite way.When you do caught in the middle you wont really have any option but to do that KYC. It sucks but you wont really have any choice.


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January 17, 2019, 08:43:47 PM
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No exchange is going to stop us from depositing any amount of money into their wallets because they are going to get benefit from it but when people want to withdraw it they need to pass the certain withdrawal limits by providing appropriate details like personal information with government ID and much more like that. If you want to use that changes you need to agree the terms and conditions I just find an exchange which meets your criteria.

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January 27, 2019, 04:00:29 AM
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It's never going to be worth risking your personal information all over the dark web just to trade some altcoins. They want your picture holding your ID, that is insanity. All those altcoin exchanges are just so dodgy. When they start getting bigger they start asking for KYC. I understand they need to do so to stay in business if it's hosted in certain jurisdictions.

I would only risk giving them a picture of me holding my ID if it was an strictly regulated business by a first world country, and still there's just something that I don't like about it. I don't remember ever having the need to do that to deal with the government. I guess that is needed when you are dealing with an international government tho, there doesn't seem to be a escape out of it. All centralized exchanges will need KYC eventually.

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January 29, 2019, 06:31:14 PM
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I noticed Strange thing Some or most of the exchanges (require KYC to withdraw) - This is no problem

But Allow users to Deposit Even if they are not Complete KYC (in exchange require KYC) - Here the problem

after that exchange do not allow withdraw Their money !!

why this ?!

Why they allow them to deposit before Complete KYC

They say we follow the law Does the law recommend doing so? Something weird!

Often exchanges hide KYC paragraph (in Privacy Policy or Usage Policy) Or users do not know Only when They want withdraw!!

what I think from like this exchanges They want Attract Volume Without regard to the interest of users

I hope the post on the right place if not Please Tell me right place
Sorry if the translation Incorrect !
This is unethical some people doing bounty campaigns and ask for the kyc at the end it is not suitable
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January 30, 2019, 03:54:52 AM
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I would only risk giving them a picture of me holding my ID if it was an strictly regulated business by a first world country, and still there's just something that I don't like about it. I don't remember ever having the need to do that to deal with the government. I guess that is needed when you are dealing with an international government tho, there doesn't seem to be a escape out of it. All centralized exchanges will need KYC eventually.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure centralized exchange or those "decentralized" exchanges will eventually require us to do KYC. I'm starting to be a bit paranoid because in the past I'm doing KYC recklessly just to liquidate my shitcoin, but now I'm starting to think that atomic swap and anonymous exchange is needed so badly :/

Maybe I'll only do KYC at one or two exchanges (which fall under my government regulation) because I need to liquidate my crypto to fiat. But I won't do any more KYC for exchanges that are not popular, don't have a public team and very suspicious.

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January 31, 2019, 12:45:24 PM
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No exchange is going to stop us from depositing any amount of money into their wallets because they are going to get benefit from it but when people want to withdraw it they need to pass the certain withdrawal limits by providing appropriate details like personal information with government ID and much more like that. If you want to use that changes you need to agree the terms and conditions I just find an exchange which meets your criteria.

But the problem sometimes is that traders doesn't read those TOS and gets excited to see their coins listed on any exchanges deposit it and then when they're about to withdraw, disappointment because you don't have a choice but to give them your damn personal data just to get your money.

Personally, I was a victim in the past as well, was pissed off, but I have to obliged though. Now, I'm very careful before depositing or trading any coins in a exchange and read carefully their TOS.

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Personally, I was a victim in the past as well, was pissed off, but I have to obliged though. Now, I'm very careful before depositing or trading any coins in a exchange and read carefully their TOS.
That is the reason why before entering an exchange or every service, you have to study and read the policy manually and carefully.
You are a victim of their trap they have already planned since then. It's a kind of marketing though. I remember a meme where there is an executive offering a free ride from a hot air balloon. Once you're there flying and you are starting to get crazy in the air and would like to go down, that is the time where they will charge you. Without any choice, you will definitely pay to go back to the ground. It's a perfect analogy. It's a trap, it's a business.

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February 01, 2019, 10:35:17 AM
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Yes!
Almost all exchange allow deposit money without KYC, then they ask for KYC when we withdraw money. It's hard to understand.

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February 01, 2019, 11:52:18 AM
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Most of exchange currently required KYC to get verified accounts and if we want to used them then nothing we can do besides following their policy and before use particular exchange i think you have to find some review from other users regarding term of service from those exchange that they use KYC or not and i think necessary especially if you want to avoid KYC
I think so, it seems like almost all exchanges are starting to do that. they want to know your identity, for what function?
but it's a bit annoying to me, because users want privacy but have to verify data to get a verified account in exchange ?

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February 01, 2019, 03:00:12 PM
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Also this is my question in KYC require exchange we can easily deposit but when we are going to withdraw they asking 2fa authentication and government documents which you have. Big volume exchange binance you can deposit and withdraw without KYC (withdrawal limitation) very interesting experience.

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