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January 05, 2019, 07:43:52 AM
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so no more wait , the biggest Asian sport event will start today in UAE
for the first time the competition will have 24 teams so it's gonna be a fun football month

let's discuss matches here and post some bets for both match ups and outrights , I'm gonna post my outright bets later tonight
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January 05, 2019, 09:58:51 AM
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for today there is only one match : UAE vs Bahrain

I'm taking UAE to win today X1.65 ( Betcoin or Asianodds )

UAE has great talents and they are expected to achieve 9 points from their 3 games , they are playing home as well and overall they are better than Bahrain
Bahrain has poor performance comparing it with the other Arabic Gulf countries and personally I watched their last friendly games without getting any good impression

so with the given odds I'm kinda sure there is good value in taking UAE , and that's my only bet for today
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January 05, 2019, 10:45:01 AM
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The UAE even though not a favorite to win the title but by virtue of their superiority over Bahrain in football and they being the host of the tournament  i don't think anything can stop them tonight from winning and i am going to bet for them to win this game.
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January 05, 2019, 11:14:18 AM
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for today there is only one match : UAE vs Bahrain

I'm taking UAE to win today X1.65 ( Betcoin or Asianodds )

UAE has great talents and they are expected to achieve 9 points from their 3 games , they are playing home as well and overall they are better than Bahrain
Bahrain has poor performance comparing it with the other Arabic Gulf countries and personally I watched their last friendly games without getting any good impression

so with the given odds I'm kinda sure there is good value in taking UAE , and that's my only bet for today

UAE is facing Bahrain for the second time in the Asia cup, UAE had won the earlier match so this could be a good opportunity for Baharain to avenge that loss. It's also pertinent to note that UAE who're the hosts are also regulars in this tournament hence that does give them a edge going ahead in this match. Also Bahrain Achilles heel is their sloppy defence, which I feel shall be exploited by UAE hence even I feel UAE shall win this game.
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January 05, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
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I was blind about the performance from both of teams but i have recently checking the odds for UAE and Bahrain through onehash.com and seems they were given high odds for UAE @3.27 and for Bahrain @2.45 and if OP says so then i think after seeing that odds i would like to pick UAE ML

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January 05, 2019, 03:38:04 PM
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UAE had won the earlier match so this could be a good opportunity for Baharain to avenge that loss.
Nah, Bahrain will try its best to get a draw since UAE has a good chance to be the first in its group.
Besides, politics may interfere here so...

Also Bahrain Achilles heel is their sloppy defence, which I feel shall be exploited by UAE hence even I feel UAE shall win this game.
This what will happens i assume. We will see anyway  Wink

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January 05, 2019, 05:01:51 PM
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Got the same odds for UAE, unfortunately, I played it as part of a 3-legged parlay that is also backing stupid Cardiff who are about to lose to League 1's Gillingham haha. So even if UAE win, I get nothing out of this. As it stands though, only scoreless at half time. Hosts are dominating but could only get 1 save out of Bahrain and have picked up 2 yellows too... no reason to panic though.

I'll share my bets too from tomorrow... found any good outrights for Tourney winners yet Sy?


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January 06, 2019, 03:46:12 AM
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unexpected start with the host drawing with Bahrain , this actually kinda showed me that all the participants teams have chance and big teams' edge isn't that high so there may be some good chances taking underdogs and double chance

found any good outrights for Tourney winners yet Sy?


picking the winner is really hard in Asian , any team can win as long as they have the spirit just like what Iraq did in 2007 while their country was at war
so for the winner I have picked Syria X48 betfair exchange , because I know my team and these odds are just way too high for Syria especially that other bookies aren't offering that high odds for Syria so I kinda picked great odds and I may trade it later

I made few other outright bets but not about the winners
I picked Syria to win group B at X6.20 sportsbet , cause again I believe bookies are way underestimating Syria and in world cup qualification bookies underestimated syria as well in almost all of their matches but Syria ended up drawing against Iran and having 2 draws against Australia to lose in extra time in Australia
so these bets are kinda hard to cash , but I'm more than sure that these odds for Syria are way too +EV

I also have other two bets : Syria Top West Asian Football Federation Team X15.00 sportsbet and Qatar Top West Asian Football Federation Team X14.00 sportsbet as well

this as well is one of the craziest odds I found , odds are way too high for both Syria and Qatar
West Asian teams are : Saudi Arabia , UAE , Iraq , Syria , Qatar , Jordan , Lebanon , Palestine , Oman and Yemen
what really matters from these is the first 5 teams since it's really unlikely the other teams will have any chance in the competition
again bookies are underestimating both Syria and Qatar with these odds , Qatar invested billions of dollars in football for their next world cup and they are preparing their team for the upcoming world cup
with such kind of odds it's crazy and it's a must bet for me   
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January 06, 2019, 04:38:58 AM
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Got the same odds for UAE, unfortunately, I played it as part of a 3-legged parlay that is also backing stupid Cardiff who are about to lose to League 1's Gillingham haha. So even if UAE win, I get nothing out of this. As it stands though, only scoreless at half time. Hosts are dominating but could only get 1 save out of Bahrain and have picked up 2 yellows too... no reason to panic though.

I'll share my bets too from tomorrow... found any good outrights for Tourney winners yet Sy?



UAE messes up my parlay yesterday too, I thought they had everything covered only for me to find out they have not only failed to score but conceded a goal from Bahrain (which they later equalized from the spot) but I thought this was going to be n easy win and so I went big on them but lost terribly.
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January 06, 2019, 05:34:54 AM
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It is very nice to see there is a thread to discuss about this ongoing AFC Asian Cup 2019, Thailand will play against India today in Group A. Frankly speaking, I do not know much details about the football players in the India national football team, but after I checked out some of the previous matches played by India, they seems to have a pretty decent performance and I do not think Thailand is a very dominance team in this tournament, I wonder why are the odds payout for Thailand to win the match in full time against India are so low @1.47 only? The defense of India looks pretty good with their past matches record, and I think a bet on under 2.5 goals might be a good option for this match.

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January 06, 2019, 05:45:47 AM
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It is very nice to see there is a thread to discuss about this ongoing AFC Asian Cup 2019, Thailand will play against India today in Group A. Frankly speaking, I do not know much details about the football players in the India national football team, but after I checked out some of the previous matches played by India, they seems to have a pretty decent performance and I do not think Thailand is a very dominance team in this tournament, I wonder why are the odds payout for Thailand to win the match in full time against India are so low @1.47 only? The defense of India looks pretty good with their past matches record, and I think a bet on under 2.5 goals might be a good option for this match.
In their group, India is in 2nd position based on ranking while Thailand is in 4th with a gap of 21. India is likely to win this match since in some of the last game they performed well. I am also wondering why it is such low.
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January 06, 2019, 08:12:09 AM
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unexpected start with the host drawing with Bahrain , this actually kinda showed me that all the participants teams have chance and big teams' edge isn't that high so there may be some good chances taking underdogs and double chance

found any good outrights for Tourney winners yet Sy?


picking the winner is really hard in Asian , any team can win as long as they have the spirit just like what Iraq did in 2007 while their country was at war
so for the winner I have picked Syria X48 betfair exchange , because I know my team and these odds are just way too high for Syria especially that other bookies aren't offering that high odds for Syria so I kinda picked great odds and I may trade it later

I made few other outright bets but not about the winners
I picked Syria to win group B at X6.20 sportsbet , cause again I believe bookies are way underestimating Syria and in world cup qualification bookies underestimated syria as well in almost all of their matches but Syria ended up drawing against Iran and having 2 draws against Australia to lose in extra time in Australia
so these bets are kinda hard to cash , but I'm more than sure that these odds for Syria are way too +EV

I also have other two bets : Syria Top West Asian Football Federation Team X15.00 sportsbet and Qatar Top West Asian Football Federation Team X14.00 sportsbet as well

this as well is one of the craziest odds I found , odds are way too high for both Syria and Qatar
West Asian teams are : Saudi Arabia , UAE , Iraq , Syria , Qatar , Jordan , Lebanon , Palestine , Oman and Yemen
what really matters from these is the first 5 teams since it's really unlikely the other teams will have any chance in the competition
again bookies are underestimating both Syria and Qatar with these odds , Qatar invested billions of dollars in football for their next world cup and they are preparing their team for the upcoming world cup
with such kind of odds it's crazy and it's a must bet for me   

I am actually expect UAE vs Bahrain march to be draw, since Bahrain is quite strong team right now, but UAE is the Host. Picking Syria is a smart choice, they strong but have good odd. But I more likely to pick UAE or Iraq for the winner.

For the match today, Jordan vs Australia is to obvious, no offense. Then Thailand vs India, I saw some post favoured India, but I might have an unpopular opinoin that Thailand will make a surprise, they have a strong squad this year.



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January 06, 2019, 09:04:05 AM
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I am actually expect UAE vs Bahrain march to be draw, since Bahrain is quite strong team right now, but UAE is the Host. Picking Syria is a smart choice, they strong but have good odd. But I more likely to pick UAE or Iraq for the winner.

For the match today, Jordan vs Australia is to obvious, no offense. Then Thailand vs India, I saw some post favoured India, but I might have an unpopular opinoin that Thailand will make a surprise, they have a strong squad this year.
Thailand have messed up one of the tournament they recently participated in which was the AFF Suzuki Cup, Thailand was eliminated by Malaysia in that tournament, and the AFF Suzuki Cup tournament only consist of teams from Southeast Asia, so Thailand are obviously the clear favorite team to win the AFF Suzuki Cup and yet they messed it up. I think India would prove to be a much more tougher opponent for Thailand to handle, so I guess we might see Thailand struggling to score goals against India today.

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January 06, 2019, 09:35:37 AM
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Thanks for the awesome commentary, Sy! I have to admit here first off that I may have some knowledge in Southeast Asian teams but when it comes to the larger AFC format, then I'm a little bit lost. I'm always backing good teams with bad bookie odds, like you said Syria and Qatar are often given bad ones - and even in the EUFA Nations League you would see Kazakhstan or Georgia with bad odds but they're both really strong teams and for me geographically some of them should be in AFC but anyway that's politics.

Syria have won me a lot of games in the past too - they have really high spirits and camaraderie, even though so many footballers lost their lives in the war, and that strength should see them go far, especially if teams like UAE continue to underestimate their opponents.

Qatar is the strongest on paper though... and because so many friendlies are played behind closed doors, impossible to judge the standards they've set but I suspect even at the coming World Cup the Qataris will be a force to be reckoned with.

P.S. Thanks for the odds you shared... I don't have accounts there so will have to keep hunting.

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January 06, 2019, 10:10:09 AM
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today is my favorite day since Group B will play , as much as I like to bet today but I will just avoid betting for today
I will focus on Jordan vs Austrlia and Syria vs Palestine

on papers both Australia and Syria should have easy wins , but believe me it's not that easy
last 4 matches between Australia ended 2 wins for Jordan in Jordan and 2 wins for Australia in Australia , so the recent matches show that Australia really suffers against Jordan
Australia has a lot of injuries , but they really surprised me last friendly against Oman where they were able to win 5-0 !!
if they didn't manage to win that big I would confidently go for Jordan +1.5 but it seems that Australia still playing good football even with the injuries they have
as I stated I won't bet it , but I'm not expecting an easy game for Australia

for Syria vs Palestine , historically and looking at recent performance Syria is a clear favor to win but again I won't bet this match
today will be the first official game (not friendly ) for Syria with the new manager , during the last year after the new manager started coaching Syria he played a lot of friendlies but I liked the performance in only 2 or 3
the coach tried a lot of plans and a lot of players , so till now I'm not 100% sure how he will play

there is no doubt that Syrian players are better but it's the game plan that I'm worried about cause as I stated this the first official match

so I will just watch the games today and see how teams will perform and maybe next round I will start having clear bets and reads regarding this group
this is the most exciting group in the whole competition IMO
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January 06, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
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I am actually expect UAE vs Bahrain march to be draw, since Bahrain is quite strong team right now, but UAE is the Host. Picking Syria is a smart choice, they strong but have good odd. But I more likely to pick UAE or Iraq for the winner.

For the match today, Jordan vs Australia is to obvious, no offense. Then Thailand vs India, I saw some post favoured India, but I might have an unpopular opinoin that Thailand will make a surprise, they have a strong squad this year.
Thailand have messed up one of the tournament they recently participated in which was the AFF Suzuki Cup, Thailand was eliminated by Malaysia in that tournament, and the AFF Suzuki Cup tournament only consist of teams from Southeast Asia, so Thailand are obviously the clear favorite team to win the AFF Suzuki Cup and yet they messed it up. I think India would prove to be a much more tougher opponent for Thailand to handle, so I guess we might see Thailand struggling to score goals against India today.

Yup, I saw this match and Thailand dominated the match but India was lucky to get a penalty ( 1-1 HT )
In the second half I was sure that Thailand would again dominate the game and win this match at least with a score of 2-1 / 3-1
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January 06, 2019, 02:34:30 PM
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Australia was beaten by Jordan, well a little bit unexpected for me...
Thailand vs India, frankly I have no clue, however, I think Thailand has more chances than India.
The next game I expect Syria would win vs Palestine but as said before, in AFC, it is very hard to expect who could win!

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January 06, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
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after Jordan win against Australia the calculation should be complex for group B
I was not going to bet today but odds for Syria has moved from X1.65 to X2.05 , I see value with this odds so I will take the bet
Syria should win now against Palestine since the other two matches they will be facing Australia and Jordan who was able to gain precious 3 points from Australia

so winning this match is a must !!
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January 06, 2019, 03:05:48 PM
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Australia was beaten by Jordan, well a little bit unexpected for me...
Thailand vs India, frankly I have no clue, however, I think Thailand has more chances than India.
The next game I expect Syria would win vs Palestine but as said before, in AFC, it is very hard to expect who could win!

Actually, first 3 matches of the tournament have all brought in unexpected results.

1. UAE held to a draw even as huge favourites.
2. Jordan beating Australia at over 10/1 odds.
3. India currently leading 3-1 with 20 mins to play... and I actually backed Thailand to win with a -1.5 handicap haha!

So yeah, looks like we might have a good value betting against bookies, but you could be really unlucky and only see the upsets early in tourney. Terrible outing for me so far!

@Sy: I also took the Syria win @2.05 as a single match now, thanks to the results so far... after commissions, just 1.99 though.

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January 06, 2019, 03:12:18 PM
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Australia was beaten by Jordan, well a little bit unexpected for me...
Thailand vs India, frankly I have no clue, however, I think Thailand has more chances than India.
The next game I expect Syria would win vs Palestine but as said before, in AFC, it is very hard to expect who could win!

Actually, first 3 matches of the tournament have all brought in unexpected results.

1. UAE held to a draw even as huge favourites.
2. Jordan beating Australia at over 10/1 odds.
3. India currently leading 3-1 with 20 mins to play... and I actually backed Thailand to win with a -1.5 handicap haha!

So yeah, looks like we might have a good value betting against bookies, but you could be really unlucky and only see the upsets early in tourney. Terrible outing for me so far!

@Sy: I also took the Syria win @2.05 as a single match now, thanks to the results so far... after commissions, just 1.99 though.


can't be 1.99 after commisions in Fairlay cause the max that fairlay can charge for this event is 0.25% on winnings which means your odds should be X2.047
are you sure about that ?? anyways most of the times fairlay has the same odds that bitcoinrush has so it's better to use them only in case they offer another market or they have an order with higher odds ( occasionally )
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