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January 07, 2019, 06:26:20 PM
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Website: https://www.indigen.foundation
Archived: Here (Unable to archived website, please try someone. But team archived from ANN thread)
ANN thread & profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093410.0
Archived: http://archive.vn/6urwi
What happened: It's look to me they have used fake photo and edit that photo.


Guy's please look at their team photo of Pavel Bobek, Its look to me same photo as Mathew Foster. I am not sure if I have eye problem, but seems look like same photo. I will be happy if team clear that matter. My thread title still "Suspicious" only. What is your thought about this picture ?


Do you think above marked picture and below picture is same? If yes, then why name is different?  


Reference: http://www.playbill.com/person/mathew-foster-vault-0000126094

I will mark this thread [Resolved] If team could provide YouTube video of this guy (few speech  about their ICO.)


Edit: Topic title marked scam since enough proof below.

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January 07, 2019, 06:47:43 PM
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Guy's please look at their team photo of Pavel Bobek, Its look to me same photo as Mathew Foster. I am not sure if I have eye problem, but seems look like same photo. I will be happy if team clear that matter. My thread title still "Suspicious" only. What is your thought about this picture ?

Similar but probably not the same. The shape of the face is slightly different and some other details. I'm not an expert though. It's possible that the photo was slightly stretched or otherwise altered.

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January 07, 2019, 07:17:45 PM
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Similar but probably not the same. The shape of the face is slightly different and some other details. I'm not an expert though. It's possible that the photo was slightly stretched or otherwise altered.

I've tried to flip the 1st image by 180° on X-axis, now the picture have some points in common in my opinion.


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Got the picture they have grabbed it from. And it seems like they just flipped the image and made it black and white to make it look different.



It was taken from the end credits of Mathew Foster's short film(You can skip the film and go ahead with the end credits but the cinematography was just awesome Tongue) which is linked from his IMDB page. So surely the ICO team is really faking the identity of this Pavel Bobek, they even named him after a Czech singer which I just knew after searching in Google.

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January 07, 2019, 07:51:26 PM
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I've tried to flip the 1st image by 180° on X-axis, now the picture have some points in common in my opinion.

Yes there is few thing matching exactly. Can you/anyone check with below picture? Because its color picture they have used on LinkedIn.



However I have replied on their ANN thread to answer on this thread and sent PM as well. If they don't want to reply then someone should invite from DT. If they are real then I will mark this thread resolved. Waiting for the answer from team.....


Got the picture they have grabbed it from. And it seems like they just flipped the image and made it black and white to make it look different.
Lol, you click post button before me  Grin. So its proven that they have used fake photo. So I will change my thread title now. DT can handle now.

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Lol, you click post button before me  Grin. So its proven that they have used fake photo. So I will change my thread title now. DT can handle now.
Grin It is ok man. I didn't even know where to start looking if you didn't provide the picture of Mathew Foster. I visited their ANN thread and they have mentioned that they have visited the Philippines and guess what I have found? They are being offered illegally their since August last year through a company called "Paysbook"
In the case of Paysbook, the SEC said that individuals or group of persons representing this entity through its founder Arjay Gallenero were offering online investments as well as its own cryptocurrency called “Indigen coins” to the public.
The company behind it is saying that they will earn this Indigen coins just by registering an account, as wells as posting, and commenting on their social media account. So I think Indigen was really in the Philippines but they came their not to help the indigenous people but to offer a company to promote their token in the country.

Posting Reward – INDIGEN COINS are earned for every post, comment, share or like to the investor’s PAYSBOOK social media account. An investor shall earn 0.025 INDIGEN COIN for every like, share or comment made and 0.050 INDIGEN COIN for every post made in social media;

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January 07, 2019, 08:42:22 PM
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That's quite crafty, scammers are taking faces from videos now Grin

I guess some of the other team members are likely fake too, even if names match the pictures.

Sorry I doubted you CC.

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That's quite crafty, scammers are taking faces from videos now Grin

I guess some of the other team members are likely fake too, even if names match the pictures.
This might be one of the most creative ways I saw on creating a fake identity they really tried hard on this Pavel Bobek guy, these people are starting to search unpopular celebrities and snatching up images of them where it is less likely to be found. I'm just glad that the Google search engine can screen grab videos as pics. The next thing they will do is they might grab some of their yearbooks and start producing a fake team from that point.

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That's quite crafty, scammers are taking faces from videos now Grin

I guess some of the other team members are likely fake too, even if names match the pictures.
This might be one of the most creative ways I saw on creating a fake identity they really tried hard on this Pavel Bobek guy, these people are starting to search unpopular celebrities and snatching up images of them where it is less likely to be found. I'm just glad that the Google search engine can screen grab videos as pics. The next thing they will do is they might grab some of their yearbooks and start producing a fake team from that point.

I'm surprised why scammers wouldn't just pay someone on fiverr to get a few random photos.

Or maybe they do and we don't catch those ICOs.

Or maybe they do and fiverr people scam them with internet pics and we catch those ICOs.

Or maybe I'm giving them ideas.

But most likely they're just too cheap... those scam ICOs are getting really desperately lame lately. This one is an exception.

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January 08, 2019, 04:46:51 AM
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We have temporarily removed his photo on our web site until further verification from him. Otherwise we can easily find a new team member to replace him.

WTF, you are repeating same thing on a row. We was expected this kind of excuse from you. How fucking developer team even they never verified team picture real or not so how they will run a ico? Just creating a website only cost 200$ and open ico? Very cheap template on the markets. Even 8$ ico template available. Your answer isn't valid. You have changed photo after exposed, it doesn't mean you have change your intention. You are team member more ico which is turn into scam. So how you giving guaranty that 100% legit. It was a ico exposed. I am going to expose you on reputation.

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Therefore we have no assurance if a team member joins us is using a real photo on Linkedin or not. So even though we are in communication with Pavel on linkedin and is participating in discussions, we don't know if it is indeed his real photo. If it is not, would it affect his desire to help the project, if he wants some privacy and personal identity hidden? But if it will affect the credibility of our team, we can easily take out someone off the team list and find a replacement. Or we can simply remove is photo and replace with an avatar, if he desires so and if he still wants to participate in the development process.
This whole statement is just some ridiculous excuse made by a scammer who got caught.  If you don't know who you're dealing with as a team member, you're just stupid.  But I'm not saying you're stupid; I'm saying you're a scammer (though you could be stupid as well).

Well done, OP.

Edit:
OK guys, I understand <snip>
Nah, you don't understand a thing.  Guaranteed you'll try this shit again with a new project and try harder not to get caught.  Your days are numbered, because people are getting wise to all of these ICO scams.

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OK guys, I understand, you have your right to your opinion, and we all have freedom of speech. We all have our own point of views on everything. Even Bitcoin has been dubbed scam because we can't control the scammers who use Bitcoin as mode of payment. So all crypto can be used by anybody any way they want. Anyway I will just leave you with your opinions and we will just continue to pursue our blockchain project, with or without ICO funding, whether you think scam or not. Time will tell, same to Bitcoin.
I'm with The Pharmacist on this one in all my experience here in the Scam Accusation board you ICO developers always comes up with an idea on how you will wash your hands and say this is just an isolated incident and your only fault is not verifying the legitimacy on that area. This trick never gets old as it is your only way for damage control.

By the way can you elaborate more on your situation in the Philippines? You just have been caught red handed last year by their SEC and it looks like your coin offering and promotion there is running illegally by a domestic company who pays their victims with INDIGEN coins, they won't even get the idea of offering this payment and promotion scheme if you didn't introduce your INDIGEN coins yourself. By the looks of it there is too many dirt being dug from your name to still consider yourself clean, so if I were you I'll just give up on scamming people.

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January 09, 2019, 05:02:27 PM
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I'm surprised why scammers wouldn't just pay someone on fiverr to get a few random photos.
Don't surprise if you see your picture on any scam ICO Wink. They have tried from fiverr also. See that post, they used picture of an fiverr developer who have worked for just spokesman. And that same guy picture used other ICO on different name. Eventually I had contacted the person on fiverr about misuse of his picture. You can see chat history on the above post i have mentioned.

What I believe, actually scammers buy photo from fiverr or some other market and edit it. But problem is if I am a seller, will I sell my photo or my family/friends photo? or even you can't capture a picture from unknown person. So how a picture seller sell unique photo? Obviously they will collect photo from internet like Facebook or Adult chatting website. That's the reason scammer not aware that photo collected from where. That's why they make excuse developer make mistake bla bla.... To be honest even scammer team don't know the source of picture before we expose. It's take lot of time and afford to investigate an ICO. We need use different website to justify picture and other thing.

However I am really happy to see that more peoples are exposing lot of scammer. I have made multiple post how to expose ICO's. Hope it will encourage more peoples.

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