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January 08, 2019, 03:07:33 PM
Last edit: January 09, 2019, 12:38:30 PM by S_Therapist
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After watching this thread, I realized there are a lot of people who are already banned but still using the forum from their alt account.
25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.
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25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

Some Ban Evasion accounts are actively participating in the forum while they are only allowed to create a thread in Meta. Therefore those accounts should also be banned. That's why I have created this thread. I believe it will help admin/moderators to ban those accounts. Hope everyone will report Ban Evasion accounts here.

Report Format:
Username: Name with link.
Link to the thread: Link to the thread where it has been proved that the user was once banned. Please, don't forget to include the archived link. Thanks to iasenko for this valueable suggestion.
Status: Active/Banned
          Active- When you report
          Banned- Check later to see if the account was banned or not. If banned, please edit "Banned"

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Username: Hypercrypt
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5057382.0
Archive- https://web.archive.org/web/20190109123629/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5057382.0
Status: Banned

Username: saulzaents
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879076.0
Archive- https://web.archive.org/web/20190109123741/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879076.0
Status: Banned (Not banned from this thread though)

Username: coiningz
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5060006.msg47421012#msg47421012
Archived- https://web.archive.org/web/20190109091431/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5060006.msg47421012
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January 08, 2019, 03:32:27 PM
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It would be efficient if moderators can ban an altaccount used to appeal once it has been proven that they committed the offence for which they are banned, there is no need for further discussion when the plagiarism, which is the top reason members get banned, is proved.

Rather than creating a list, why not report posts from such accounts outside the appeal thread. It's easy and more efficient.
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January 08, 2019, 03:41:06 PM
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Rather than creating a list, why not report posts from such accounts outside the appeal thread. It's easy and more efficient.
You can't keep tracking what is going on, who has been banned, which one you have reported. That's why keeping in a list is more effective, IMO. Anyway, let see what other people think as well. In my opinion, it should be done more ago.

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January 08, 2019, 04:31:10 PM
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I'd say reporting to mods is the right way to deal with it but having a public list might help to uncover other alts as well. So let's see how this goes.

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January 08, 2019, 04:36:59 PM
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I'd say reporting to mods is the right way to deal with it but having a public list might help to uncover other alts as well. So let's see how this goes.
As I mentioned, we may forget which one we have reported or which one is not. Also, the queue may sometime remain unhandled. I have changed the structure, inspired by LoyceV's Reporting plagiarism thread.

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January 08, 2019, 05:07:22 PM
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By the way based on his trust summary page saulzaents' email address had been changed recently so the account might belong to a new user already. You will also see that from his post history you will notice that from pages 10-50 almost all of his post are in the Turkish local board written in their language, it wasn't at the start of page 9 where he started posting on threads outside the local board in English which is an odd thing to see for a guy who who created most of his posts in Turkish.

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January 08, 2019, 06:08:56 PM
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Will love to join this quest although I have few questions like What's the time range to determine if accounts still active and if it has been red tag should I go ahead listing them here?

If the account has been active outside of their appeal thread after they've been banned (basically after they posted the appeal) - that's ban evasion. Red tag doesn't matter.

If the user didn't have an appeal thread - that's a bit more complicated, depends on how you determine that their alt is banned. You can ask here if you're unsure.

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Fix the link to dom-artez thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4706787

solvecaptchaz has been banned: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=solvecaptchaz

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I've always wondered why those accounts that make the appeal "My account has been banned, for X, but I have learned from my mistake(s) (even though I haven't waited my ban period out) and I am prepared to be unbanned or perform ban-evasion." are allowed to continue posting. They would seem to be the easiest cases to solve around here. I'm not saying this list is unnecessary, but I am thinking that it should be unnecessary. Either the obvious cases should be reported and banned, or there will not be enough evidence to link the two accounts. Multiple more useful threads for the latter already exist.

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January 08, 2019, 09:50:35 PM
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I've always wondered why those accounts that make the appeal "My account has been banned, for X, but I have learned from my mistake(s) (even though I haven't waited my ban period out) and I am prepared to be unbanned or perform ban-evasion." are allowed to continue posting. They would seem to be the easiest cases to solve around here. I'm not saying this list is unnecessary, but I am thinking that it should be unnecessary. Either the obvious cases should be reported and banned, or there will not be enough evidence to link the two accounts. Multiple more useful threads for the latter already exist.

Exactly. In a nutshill, we could conclude that every member who complains about being banned, should be banned immediately, too.

It's good to know! I'll report all of them for ban evasion from now on. They'll just have to appeal by e-mail and be patient.

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January 08, 2019, 10:07:12 PM
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Do we really need a thread for this??
I just post the link to the post where the banned user ask why he is banned in the report to the mods, and he gets banned again.
I've done this a few times now with 100% success.

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January 09, 2019, 01:45:40 AM
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Do we really need a thread for this??
Yes, especially if you lack of a better word to put on your report.

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Username: sunbat92
Link to the post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3020363.msg49124422#msg49124422
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190109123912/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3020363.msg49124422%23msg49124422
Status: Banned

Username: Erzinnum
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071850.0 (He said it's his friend's account though)
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190109124011/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071850.0
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Username: Blakcwhite69
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5070902.0
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190109124129/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5070902.0
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Username: CooperCloud
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043594.0
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190109150856/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043594.0
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Username: kusanagi01
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040362.0
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190109151455/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806798
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January 09, 2019, 05:58:15 AM
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I believe the suggestions above made by @iasenko & @suchmoon will be the more healthy appropriate to this (i.e reporting directly with ban appeal link to moderators) and if you feel like continuing then edit your topic and post more findings there instead of opening a new post for each accounts you find.

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January 09, 2019, 06:25:58 AM
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I believe the suggestions above made by @iasenko & @suchmoon will be the more healthy appropriate to this (i.e reporting directly with ban appeal link to moderators) and if you feel like continuing then edit your topic and post more findings there instead of opening a new post for each accounts you find.
I will keep it as it is for some more days. If mod/admin take step and ban those users, I will let it go. Otherwise, I will lock this thread.
Listing in a single post will not be a good idea although at the beginning I thought to list those in OP. But later, I decided to let everyone report which will be more effective.

If you want to keep it on, maybe add one more line to the report format > archive. Sometimes some of those threads get deleted, it's good to have a link for future reference, especially if we are talking about account banning.
Thank you for your valueable suggestion. Also, we have find another utility of this thread from your suggestion. We can use it as future reference if someone asks why he was banned.

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January 09, 2019, 08:55:38 AM
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If you want to keep it on, maybe add one more line to the report format > archive. Sometimes some of those threads get deleted, it's good to have a link for future reference, especially if we are talking about account banning.

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January 09, 2019, 10:46:01 AM
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Do we really need a thread for this??

I had a similar initial thought at first, but then I've started to think that the usefulness of this topic is to draw more community’s attention (members & mods) to the violators, which are creating threads about ban appeal and then quietly continuing their activity on the forum.
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January 12, 2019, 05:30:37 AM
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Is there a validity period for a "Ban evasion"?
Because I've found an appeal thread from 2014 year: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=585006 (archive)
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January 12, 2019, 01:30:39 PM
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After watching this thread, I realized there are a lot of people who are already banned but still using the forum from their alt account.
25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.
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25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

Some Ban Evasion accounts are actively participating in the forum while they are only allowed to create a thread in Meta. Therefore those accounts should also be banned. That's why I have created this thread. I believe it will help admin/moderators to ban those accounts. Hope everyone will report Ban Evasion accounts here.

I have reported 2 ban appeal threads (which technically are ban evasions) on this Meta forum and my reports have been marked as BAD.

Roll Eyes

If they want to appeal, they have to use the e-mail address and not post their whining in here. I have no idea why my reports were "Bad", unless we want the Meta to become the Ban Appeal forum.

Very soon the only subjects that will be discussed in Meta will be Merit, Trust and Ban.

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January 14, 2019, 07:24:30 AM
Last edit: January 14, 2019, 04:39:46 PM by Findingnemo
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Username: waqasniaz
Link to the thread with archived: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096960.0 (Archieve)
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January 14, 2019, 08:18:36 AM
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Is there a validity period for a "Ban evasion"?
Because I've found an appeal thread from 2014 year

Don't think there's any validity period for "ban evasion"
If the account has been active outside of their appeal thread after they've been banned (basically after they posted the appeal) - that's ban evasion. Red tag doesn't matter.
If an account with red tag (useless account) can also be reported for ban evasion then the period shouldn't matter too. If period are put into consideration then accounts can just wait years before been woken and re-used.

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