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April 24, 2019, 08:19:51 PM
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Gambling websites never intend to cheat you, they are in need of more players so to earn good. The only issue that arise quite often with the gambling websites were the transaction issues and the withdrawal issue. When someone wins big the gambling websites intend to keep fund and make him play further with the funds. For this gambling websites used to request for KYC and various other norms to be fulfilled.

No not all the sites asking for KYC verification to gamble without money. Actually gambling is the field which required more users on their site infact there are many gambling without any withdrawal limit also.
Giving the KYC is not a problem but we must confirm whether the site is scam one or legit site.
If that is legit then it is not a problem for you to share KYC details.
Even if they are legit,i would still be hesitated on giving out my personal details without any reason.If a gambling site do ask out for these kind of verifications then most likely you have something shady regarding with
your bets and betting activity but other reasons than that then i dont see any points for them to ask out KYC.If you do know that you arent doing anything then why give that kyc that they do ask?
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April 24, 2019, 08:42:42 PM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
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April 24, 2019, 09:49:52 PM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
That risk we are always afraid of, a gambling site that building reputation is not just easy for them especially if they are newly launched gambling site. No one deposited first a big amount, they just keep searching on it if is probably fair to play. I think a regulated casino is a safe gambling site to do since it is regulated.

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April 24, 2019, 10:17:22 PM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
That risk we are always afraid of, a gambling site that building reputation is not just easy for them especially if they are newly launched gambling site. No one deposited first a big amount, they just keep searching on it if is probably fair to play. I think a regulated casino is a safe gambling site to do since it is regulated.
I personally have never experienced if other casino and gambling sites carry money without prior notice or hacking problems, the problem is an unfair system and that is the only concern. About large or small deposits is not a problem, because when players play a casino with a large value or even the lowest, players will only lose when the system they apply is unfair. I usually spend a few bitcoins at the beginning just to test their system.

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April 24, 2019, 10:42:12 PM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
That risk we are always afraid of, a gambling site that building reputation is not just easy for them especially if they are newly launched gambling site. No one deposited first a big amount, they just keep searching on it if is probably fair to play. I think a regulated casino is a safe gambling site to do since it is regulated.
Gamblers will absolutely be looking for trusted sites and the most reputable one. They'll only be considering new created sites if they'll found out that there is no problem with and it looks attractive to them. Gambling owners will be probably be playing fair into their gamblers cause they are protecting their reputation otherwise they'll end up into bankrupt.

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April 27, 2019, 11:18:35 AM
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No not all the sites asking for KYC verification to gamble without money. Actually gambling is the field which required more users on their site infact there are many gambling without any withdrawal limit also.
There have been so many cases in the gambling that the players just do not get their withdrawal requests accepted. This is something wide spread and is very common. Not all the websites do that and the experience guys do not use the websites that exploit its users. Only the new guys in the market who do not have much information about the gambling thing are the victims and they get exploited and cheated in many ways.

Giving the KYC is not a problem but we must confirm whether the site is scam one or legit site.
If that is legit then it is not a problem for you to share KYC details.
Gamblers must use this forum for referring to filter out scam sites and then I guess no one will be having any problem to clear KYC. I guess when we use only reputed gambling houses, there will be no chances of getting cheated.
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April 27, 2019, 12:49:46 PM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
Since most casinos that are crypto base cannot be regulated did you think the scamming one will keep not keep  coming out? I think we would need more security tokens that will provide a way to checkmate most of the cryptocurrencies business in other to reduce loses among investors through scam.
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April 28, 2019, 09:55:01 PM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
Since most casinos that are crypto base cannot be regulated did you think the scamming one will keep not keep  coming out? I think we would need more security tokens that will provide a way to checkmate most of the cryptocurrencies business in other to reduce loses among investors through scam.

Well if they cannot be regulated, they shouldn't exist. Cryptos are good and all that, I'm all for decentralization but that also means your funds are not safe unless they are in your wallet. We should have some sort of decentralized casino that uses smart contracts so you are always in possession of your coins somehow.
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May 01, 2019, 06:24:12 AM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
Since most casinos that are crypto base cannot be regulated did you think the scamming one will keep not keep  coming out? I think we would need more security tokens that will provide a way to checkmate most of the cryptocurrencies business in other to reduce loses among investors through scam.
Exactly that is the problem. Though crypto currency has given rise to scams and people who do not understand about crypto the most are the people who are looted. In gambling, the scams are basically the websites and people who do not know much about how to evaluate a gambling site get looted. This need to be stopped because it is hurting the industry and crypto should rather make it more transparent like the ETH blockchain adapted by many countries for transparency.
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  I think that people with lack of informations and experiences on what site they have penetrated will easy to cheat, because gambling can make people enjoy and have fun by playing, but unfortunately it may confused you and lead to addiction. Perhaps, featuring how the site has been grow and develope is my aspection to evade from cheating or loses and I think it is a wise and preferable way on how we play the game.
We need something in the gabling industry that completely eliminates the scams and block the doorway for them to enter again. I heard that Sicodice is a scam. They have been scamming the users and cancel your withdrawal request of you want to withdraw from the game. They simply block your messages. This is no doubt a perfect example of scam and this is how they cheat you. There are many more ways they do like this.

With all due respect, I've been playing on Sicodice for about a year, and to be honest I've never seen such a thing you said at all. Of course, there're some cases that people try to register as many as users as they can to take advantage of the site, and we know that it's against the rule so the site will be suspended. I have also the withdrawal history that I can show you.
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  I think that people with lack of informations and experiences on what site they have penetrated will easy to cheat, because gambling can make people enjoy and have fun by playing, but unfortunately it may confused you and lead to addiction. Perhaps, featuring how the site has been grow and develope is my aspection to evade from cheating or loses and I think it is a wise and preferable way on how we play the game.
We need something in the gabling industry that completely eliminates the scams and block the doorway for them to enter again. I heard that Sicodice is a scam. They have been scamming the users and cancel your withdrawal request of you want to withdraw from the game. They simply block your messages. This is no doubt a perfect example of scam and this is how they cheat you. There are many more ways they do like this.

With all due respect, I've been playing on Sicodice for about a year, and to be honest I've never seen such a thing you said at all. Of course, there're some cases that people try to register as many as users as they can to take advantage of the site, and we know that it's against the rule so the site will be suspended. I have also the withdrawal history that I can show you.
There is nothing like this but we will have to be careful never trust any website without having information because there are so many scamming sites, so they can cheat you by giving fake profit sites or it can cheat by online, after taking your money they can get vanish from the market so be very careful never trust everyone you don’t know.

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May 03, 2019, 06:25:34 AM
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  I think that people with lack of informations and experiences on what site they have penetrated will easy to cheat, because gambling can make people enjoy and have fun by playing, but unfortunately it may confused you and lead to addiction. Perhaps, featuring how the site has been grow and develope is my aspection to evade from cheating or loses and I think it is a wise and preferable way on how we play the game.
We need something in the gabling industry that completely eliminates the scams and block the doorway for them to enter again. I heard that Sicodice is a scam. They have been scamming the users and cancel your withdrawal request of you want to withdraw from the game. They simply block your messages. This is no doubt a perfect example of scam and this is how they cheat you. There are many more ways they do like this.

With all due respect, I've been playing on Sicodice for about a year, and to be honest I've never seen such a thing you said at all. Of course, there're some cases that people try to register as many as users as they can to take advantage of the site, and we know that it's against the rule so the site will be suspended. I have also the withdrawal history that I can show you.
Sicodice is not a bad place play at. Not every site is like that. There are many scams around over the internet and they do cheat you. In addition, have you ever thought about a site/casino with zero house edge? A thing like this might not exist on the face of the earth which means they do exploit their users. I have not been cheated yet but I have read a lot about the way machines are engineered to deceive you and make you loose.
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May 03, 2019, 07:08:25 AM
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Gambling websites never intend to cheat you, they are in need of more players so to earn good. The only issue that arise quite often with the gambling websites were the transaction issues and the withdrawal issue. When someone wins big the gambling websites intend to keep fund and make him play further with the funds. For this gambling websites used to request for KYC and various other norms to be fulfilled.

No not all the sites asking for KYC verification to gamble without money. Actually gambling is the field which required more users on their site infact there are many gambling without any withdrawal limit also.
Giving the KYC is not a problem but we must confirm whether the site is scam one or legit site.
If that is legit then it is not a problem for you to share KYC details.
I don’t want to discuss whether sites cheat or not. My concern is a little different and that is about people who support gambling through technological aspects. This modern technological world have made our lives easier but instead of utilizing them for our good and to eradicate such stigmas from our society, we have detracted from our paths. We are supporting ogling gambling, which is highly alarming and dangerous.

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I don’t want to discuss whether sites cheat or not. My concern is a little different and that is about people who support gambling through technological aspects. This modern technological world have made our lives easier but instead of utilizing them for our good and to eradicate such stigmas from our society, we have detracted from our paths. We are supporting ogling gambling, which is highly alarming and dangerous.
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Totally agree with this perspective. Whether we like it or not, the whole world is going this way and all we can do is just trying to survive. Gambling websites are one of them that can eat your money easily. However, as the topic goes for the Sicodice website, I can assure you the more you time spend on this website, the more you'll trust it and play.
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May 04, 2019, 07:44:29 AM
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Gambling websites never intend to cheat you, they are in need of more players so to earn good. The only issue that arise quite often with the gambling websites were the transaction issues and the withdrawal issue. When someone wins big the gambling websites intend to keep fund and make him play further with the funds. For this gambling websites used to request for KYC and various other norms to be fulfilled.

No not all the sites asking for KYC verification to gamble without money. Actually gambling is the field which required more users on their site infact there are many gambling without any withdrawal limit also.
Giving the KYC is not a problem but we must confirm whether the site is scam one or legit site.
If that is legit then it is not a problem for you to share KYC details.

I still don't get the purpose of getting the KYC by the gambling site. We cannot claim that any site who is offering KYC is a trusted site. KYC is something which can proof nothing for the site. Even if the trusted site demand KYC, I will hesitant to submit because we know in future the site may end the business and our KYC may be sold to some other site etc.
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
Hack may not be a big issue if you are not holding funds into the casino sites longer and we can trust casinos more than exchange since casinos gives more preference to the security which will get more reputation to the gambling sites.

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May 04, 2019, 12:37:58 PM
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Those are hypothetical situations... Not everyone thinks on scamming their Users that way.
Let's face it, if someone would want to do that they would be negating any profitable user in their end.
If an High Roller gets to be hit with that sort of cheat, they will eventually leave the Casino.
I do agree and I think that not every website might do that; they in fact may do it. Remember every company that gives you a product makes money not by one way but many ways. Just Google it and you will come to know how the machines that are used in the casinos are have been engineered to make you loose your money in gambling. How come the house makes money if you keep on winning? Same goes for websites.
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May 08, 2019, 03:13:32 PM
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Hack may not be a big issue if you are not holding funds into the casino sites longer and we can trust casinos more than exchange since casinos gives more preference to the security which will get more reputation to the gambling sites.
Most casinos have different methods employed to prevent hackers from getting access to the funds stored. Generally the funds are stored in a hot wallet and then with requests from players they get transferred. So hackers mainly go for phishing the logins more often than hacking sites. Make sure you secure your account before anything else.

In case you get phished and lose money then the fault lies in you and the site will never compensate you.

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May 09, 2019, 10:00:08 AM
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The biggest issue I see with crypto casinos is the lack of any regulation. Sure checking your bets and using the provably fair system is great, however, the risk is them running away with all the money, not just from you but from anyone, getting hacked is also an issue and not only in crypto casinos but also exchanges, as we all know... I'm hoping to see more regulated casinos with time, regulation + provably fair system would be quite amazing, I would be confident enough to deposit large amounts of money and gamble with it, even though I'm poor.
Hack may not be a big issue if you are not holding funds into the casino sites longer and we can trust casinos more than exchange since casinos gives more preference to the security which will get more reputation to the gambling sites.
There is nothing like trust if it comes to technology. Did not you see how Binance got hacked a day ago and lost whooping money? This is something that can happen anywhere with anyone at any site/platform. You could get cheated by the site, could loose your coins if they are there on a site in your wallet. Best would be if you keep changing your 2FA and API keys to stay safe. There is no doubt in the fact that a gambling site can deceive you in many ways.

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