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January 11, 2019, 10:28:53 AM
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Cryptos Face Comprehensive EU Regulation, Regulators Plan to Set New Financial Rules

Fresh EU rules may be required to strongly safeguard users from cryptocurrency risks, stop money laundering and prevent diverging national regulations from forming unjust contention, European Union regulators revealed on January 9, 2019.
The European Banking Authority (EBA) revealed in a report on digital currencies that they distinctively lay outside the orbit of EU monetary rules, making it more difficult to form a fully elaborated picture.

Read the details in the article of Coinidol dot com, the world blockchain news outlet: https://coinidol.com/cryptos-face-comprehensive-eu-regulation/

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January 11, 2019, 04:42:37 PM
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First it was regulation in china, and now it is regulation in EU. No wonder there is such a price dump going on, i predict that it will fall a few hundred dollars more before it recovers

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January 12, 2019, 01:09:45 AM
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It's going to be the same as everything that's come before - more KYC/AML for custodial services and hopefully some form of formal redress or protection for people who deposit to them. There's not much else they can do.

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January 12, 2019, 01:24:29 AM
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It's going to be the same as everything that's come before - more KYC/AML for custodial services and hopefully some form of formal redress or protection for people who deposit to them. There's not much else they can do.

They will also tell exchanges to drop privacy coins, which is a bit bad, but not critical, because we'll have atomic swaps and other decentralized crypto-to-crypto exchange methods.

On the bright side, regulators might also purge all shitcoins and tokens from regulated exchanges, which will bring some credibility back to crypto.

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January 12, 2019, 10:18:31 AM
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According to the EBA, the market developments also need more review of EU anti-money laundering (AML) lawmaking.   
This scourge is always highlighted by governments when they want to take advantage of the tax.

These regulatory efforts are not limited to the EU but to China and some other countries. The bright side is that there are more awareness and acceptance of this technology and not random talk about it.

They will also tell exchanges to drop privacy coins,
Money transfer "privacy coins" will not make a difference as long as you ask where you acquired that coins? and freeze it if you do not have an answer.

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January 12, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
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First it was regulation in china, and now it is regulation in EU. No wonder there is such a price dump going on, i predict that it will fall a few hundred dollars more before it recovers

You may be right regarding the nearest future, because those who were using cryptocurrencies for money laundering purposes will probably start dumping their coins because of the news. But the vast majority of the European citizens will feel more secure about using cryptos after the regulations will go into effect, and thus we can expect a big influx of new adopters. So, I think it's a positive news overall.

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January 12, 2019, 07:11:43 PM
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First it was regulation in china, and now it is regulation in EU. No wonder there is such a price dump going on, i predict that it will fall a few hundred dollars more before it recovers

Regulation in China was long before the 2018 pump as far as I remember. Exchanges were forced to shut down somewhere in 2015.
Also, let's be real about it. The EU isn't doing anything yet and the regulations aren't even being drawn. This can take years.
There's also a bright side to all of it. If you want to be able to pay taxes and bills in Bitcoin, you need regulation.

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January 12, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
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First it was regulation in china, and now it is regulation in EU. No wonder there is such a price dump going on, i predict that it will fall a few hundred dollars more before it recovers

You may be right regarding the nearest future, because those who were using cryptocurrencies for money laundering purposes will probably start dumping their coins because of the news. But the vast majority of the European citizens will feel more secure about using cryptos after the regulations will go into effect, and thus we can expect a big influx of new adopters. So, I think it's a positive news overall.

If you are using cryptos for laundering you aren't planning to hold. The goal here is to get fiat exchanged into crypto and dump crypto back into fiat ASAP preferably in a different country.

Launderers are selling all the time but to do that they have to buy. If you regulate and add strict KYC laws that mostly already exist in the EU you end up with launderers unable to buy to sell later which can't negatively influence the price.
 
One of the exchanges that didn't subdue and got its CEO launderer arrested in Greece Wink

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January 12, 2019, 10:27:00 PM
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I don't see any indication that regulations are actually forthcoming. It just seems like more talk, like always. Maybe we should expect something by 2025 or so? They're saying more review is needed to "ascertain what, if any, effort is needed to properly regulate 'opportunities and risks' associated with crypto operations." It also sounds like consensus on comprehensive regulation will be hard to reach...

On the bright side, regulators might also purge all shitcoins and tokens from regulated exchanges, which will bring some credibility back to crypto.

How would that work? Are you talking about some sort of government-sanctioned whitelist for coins, or an outright ban on altcoins? They both sound pretty awful, to be honest. I don't think the government enforcing monopolies on investor/consumer choices is anything to be happy about.

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January 13, 2019, 07:47:23 AM
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I see so far the general dissatisfaction of the EU regulators with the existence of cryptocurrency and there are no concrete innovations. It is not even clear what these regulators are proposing. They are unhappy that EU banks began to use cryptocurrency. Let them write specific rules of cryptocurrency circulation, but over the years only one talk. The activity of ICO has long been in need of regulation, the protection of the rights of investors and other participants in the cryptocurrency market, and the elimination of mass fraud in this activity. Instead, they seem to deliberately do nothing to discredit the activities of the ICO and the cryptocurrency as a whole.

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January 13, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
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First it was regulation in china, and now it is regulation in EU. No wonder there is such a price dump going on, i predict that it will fall a few hundred dollars more before it recovers

Regulation in China was long before the 2018 pump as far as I remember. Exchanges were forced to shut down somewhere in 2015.
Also, let's be real about it. The EU isn't doing anything yet and the regulations aren't even being drawn. This can take years.
There's also a bright side to all of it. If you want to be able to pay taxes and bills in Bitcoin, you need regulation.

Right about China. People keep forgetting they've banned Bitcoin before, lifted the ban, and then just gone awkwardly random about what's banned and what's not. Regulation's been on Bitcoin's tail for so long now it's strange we still think it's going to affect the network - every ATH proves regulation doesn't.

Regulation in the EU already exists, in the form of the 5th AML Directive - basically, the latest edition of which this year will see full implementation, and everything "crypto" falls under that.

There's also this new study focusing on EU Law the Euro Commission wants to do, and is ready to shell out EUR190k for it: tender bids end in 4 days: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/study-blockchains-legal-governance-and-interoperability-aspects

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January 13, 2019, 05:08:40 PM
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How would that work? Are you talking about some sort of government-sanctioned whitelist for coins, or an outright ban on altcoins? They both sound pretty awful, to be honest. I don't think the government enforcing monopolies on investor/consumer choices is anything to be happy about.

It's impossible to truly ban a cryptocurrency, and it would be counterproductive to fully try it, but regulators could just tell exchanges to delist some bad cryptocurrencies and especially tokens.

The whole crypto field is filled with scams and poor-quality projects, so-called "developers", who are usually anonymous, keep making promises and asking for money for years, instead of making product first and taking profits later. And smaller exchanges like YoBit and HitBTC are enabling all those scams by giving them platform.

Sure, there are examples of overregulation, but it doesn't mean that all regulation is like that.

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January 13, 2019, 07:24:07 PM
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How would that work? Are you talking about some sort of government-sanctioned whitelist for coins, or an outright ban on altcoins? They both sound pretty awful, to be honest. I don't think the government enforcing monopolies on investor/consumer choices is anything to be happy about.

It's impossible to truly ban a cryptocurrency, and it would be counterproductive to fully try it, but regulators could just tell exchanges to delist some bad cryptocurrencies and especially tokens.

The whole crypto field is filled with scams and poor-quality projects, so-called "developers", who are usually anonymous, keep making promises and asking for money for years, instead of making product first and taking profits later. And smaller exchanges like YoBit and HitBTC are enabling all those scams by giving them platform.

Sure, there are examples of overregulation, but it doesn't mean that all regulation is like that.

I'd say the sector is full of scams and also dumb, failed attempts at innovation. There's even been some worthy innovations too. The thing is, this condition isn't particular to the cryptocurrency market. The OTC penny stock market has always operated the same way: Fledgling startups with little or no working business selling equity for cash. Most of those businesses will fail, just like in the ICO scene. It's a high-risk market where you should expect your investment to plummet in value a good deal of the time. What a lot of people call "scams" around here are perfectly legitimate investments in the OTC market. I certainly don't want to see regulators being any more involved in cryptocurrency than they are in other markets.

Centrally issued tokens (securities) are also one thing, because there are existing securities laws that mandate investor protections. These laws usually don't apply to altcoins, so it would be pretty disturbing to see governments ordering exchanges to de-list them.

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January 15, 2019, 05:11:29 PM
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more control, additional KYC , less anonimity
why am I not surprised?
under the pretext to protect the money of investors , the said investors will be forced to reveal literally everything about themselves
this is a global tendency, not EU only , basically everywhere in the world, US ,China, now EU



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January 15, 2019, 09:32:57 PM
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under the pretext to protect the money of investors , the said investors will be forced to reveal literally everything about themselves
this is a global tendency, not EU only , basically everywhere in the world, US ,China, now EU

Sadly, many newer investors are asking for it, too. I've seen lots of posters around here praising regulators and hoping for cryptocurrency or token-specific regulations, either because they think it'll root out scams or pump their holdings. It just illustrates what the more mainstream investors and consumers looks like: "We're helpless idiots, please save us!" It plays right into governments' hands.

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