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May 25, 2019, 07:55:44 AM
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I am wondering if the capitalized letters are actually the starting letters for the 8 pass words and if they are in the correct order. Another problem is whether to include intervals between the pass words or not. I don't think it's clear from the hints whether we are looking for an unbroken camel case text or not. I assume the OP used brainwallet to derive the wallet address hence the camel case hint however with so many uncertain factors I think it makes the puzzle much more harder than figuring out a master seed. I am not sure brute forcing would even work here.

Also the theory about finding a text file with the password enclosed is not very plausible as the OP wouldn't have given the hint at all.
I think the biggest question is whether there are intervals included in the 32 characters mentioned or not.

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May 25, 2019, 10:32:46 PM
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the clue was clear.Hint: 8 camel case english words, no special symbols

Happy puzzling!
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May 26, 2019, 03:58:47 AM
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Exactly and any theory that leads to a hardforce the password is a wrong theory, simple.

It seems, you just skimmed the thread, not read it. Except for a couple of people no one was talking about bruteforce. We were discussing a dictionary attack because of the hint(8 camel case english words, no special symbols).

And the conclusion was that there are still too many combinations to go through.


I think you are the one who just skimmed the thread because people DID try to bruteforce in different ways.

Anyway, I have given up solving the puzzle as I have tried to figure out for more than a month now. And now I am here again to see if someone have redeemed the reward but looks like it's harder than I imagined.
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May 30, 2019, 03:34:53 AM
Last edit: May 31, 2019, 01:42:11 AM by tortic25
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Exactly and any theory that leads to a hardforce the password is a wrong theory, simple.

It seems, you just skimmed the thread, not read it. Except for a couple of people no one was talking about bruteforce. We were discussing a dictionary attack because of the hint(8 camel case english words, no special symbols).

And the conclusion was that there are still too many combinations to go through.

Edit all of this quoting is confusing tbh.
dictionary attack is a form of brute forcing  i haven't heard hardforce used before but i think hes referring to normal bruteforcing
And the conclusion was that there are still too many combinations to go through--- Exactly and any theory that leads to a hardforce the password is a wrong theory   my point is the same opinion was reached, and people are still arguing about it while they agree on the same thing.... this is how far off subject everything has went


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May 30, 2019, 09:46:44 AM
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Do you think if people are trying to get the key with a method not tied to the puzzle, are they following a wrong path?

Wouldn't it be more logical to have only one solution that solves the puzzle instead of having millions of possible solutions and trying them all?

As vague as an enigma may be, I don't think it can have millions of possible solutions.
In my opinion, the approach to finding the solution is probably wrong.

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May 31, 2019, 01:51:50 AM
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Hello,

First of all who said ppl didn't tried brute force with different techniques. i think he is wrong or he did not read all the replies many has tried.

The Hint was clear : 8 Camel Case English Words that forms 32 Chars => RAW Private Key after hexlifying

So am testing a very simple/complicated technique from more than two weeks without any luck.

Here is What am doing:

1 - Tried to create a unique answers to the puzzle question, it doesn't matter the number of characters but am trying to make it logical and keep it at range of 30 >> 36 chars.
2 - Split the words To form unique Camel Case words.
3 - Create A Unique 8 Words then Unique Phrases on the fly from those.
4 - Eliminate phrases that char count is greater then 32
5 - The Result is Really big if only you have few Words on your Dictionary
6 - To Speed up the Process i used blockchain database that have all non empty addresses

Let the beast go. i don't have big machines or servers to run this. am using my MacBookAir which will never get it LOL.

hope someone Will try the same and better if he can have some great machines to do it.

This is the only Way i found because answers to the question is very hard without other hints and because of the many logical answers that can respond to the problem (question).

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May 31, 2019, 03:24:56 AM
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keep in mind

The solution is a 32 characters long plain-text (the private key).

Hint: 8 camel case english words, no special symbols



we don't know if the 8 camel case english words have exactly 32 characters or it's a md5sum of it (32 chars)
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May 31, 2019, 07:54:21 PM
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Tough puzzle, good luck to all.
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June 04, 2019, 07:38:55 PM
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No.


The solution is a 32 characters long plain-text (the private key).

Hint: 8 camel case english words, no special symbols



I'm saying these two lines MAY not be in correlation. See, everybody's been thinking of the eight words as of solution. But the puzzle doesn't say that. It only states those words are a hint. They may lead to something else; to a completely different set of 32 characters. Assuming the hint points exactly at the solution is, well, an assumption. So stop thinking of the eight words as of the end goal. Stop making them fit your criteria. This paradigm opens whole new possibilities. Let's be open-minded.
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June 09, 2019, 01:13:37 PM
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No.


The solution is a 32 characters long plain-text (the private key).

Hint: 8 camel case english words, no special symbols



I'm saying these two lines MAY not be in correlation. See, everybody's been thinking of the eight words as of solution. But the puzzle doesn't say that. It only states those words are a hint. They may lead to something else; to a completely different set of 32 characters. Assuming the hint points exactly at the solution is, well, an assumption. So stop thinking of the eight words as of the end goal. Stop making them fit your criteria. This paradigm opens whole new possibilities. Let's be open-minded.


i see only u think that solution is two words of solution 8 camel case english words
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June 12, 2019, 09:56:06 AM
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how can someone solve such a puzzle with no enough hints, and only a single question. i think we need more hints, and the one who started this puzzle disappeared after posting his puzzle, wondering if this is a real puzzle
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June 13, 2019, 04:05:23 PM
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how can someone solve such a puzzle with no enough hints, and only a single question. i think we need more hints, and the one who started this puzzle disappeared after posting his puzzle, wondering if this is a real puzzle

That's why it's a 1BTC puzzle and not a 10$ one  Smiley
Collect ideas from other members that you'll find in this thread, think about it, mix them with your ideas and try to solve the puzzle.

Seems easy, huh?

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June 18, 2019, 04:00:56 PM
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Someone are trolling us, the key shoud be easier to find...

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June 18, 2019, 04:26:57 PM
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Someone are trolling us, the key shoud be easier to find...

I'm in the game right now

If people haven't solved this puzzle until now it means two things... or it's impossible or it's really hard.

With the two hints we have should be easy, but the first hint is really tricky... I think the phase is hidden in the bitcoin white paper.

https://github.com/bitsblocks/bitcoin-whitepaper

I already take all the phrase from there, but couldn't find the key, maybe if we take all the words from there and mix then to make the 32char phrase... IDK, it could take a long time, this puzzle is more about luck than about logic.

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June 19, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
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Someone are trolling us, the key shoud be easier to find...

I'm in the game right now

If people haven't solved this puzzle until now it means two things... or it's impossible or it's really hard.

With the two hints we have should be easy, but the first hint is really tricky... I think the phase is hidden in the bitcoin white paper.

https://github.com/bitsblocks/bitcoin-whitepaper

I already take all the phrase from there, but couldn't find the key, maybe if we take all the words from there and mix then to make the 32char phrase... IDK, it could take a long time, this puzzle is more about luck than about logic.

In any cases, it must have a coincidence with the address 179sxfh6rw6bHSo5wVUhLP96k46QaEzVP
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June 23, 2019, 08:42:36 PM
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Back here after a few weeks, and notice one thing.

Why Op uses NatashaOtomoski instead of Satoshi Nakamoto?

Does it increase the difficulty of the question? No.

I think a part of the key needs to be anagrammed

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June 25, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
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Back here after a few weeks, and notice one thing.

Why Op uses NatashaOtomoski instead of Satoshi Nakamoto?

Does it increase the difficulty of the question? No.

I think a part of the key needs to be anagrammed
The entire question has 37 characters so i don't think anagram work here

That is not my point.

Since NatashaOtomoski is a clear anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto, the only clear question is whey he used it?

The answer could be, you need to use the same algorithm on the solution.

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June 25, 2019, 04:01:42 PM
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Back here after a few weeks, and notice one thing.

Why Op uses NatashaOtomoski instead of Satoshi Nakamoto?

Does it increase the difficulty of the question? No.

I think a part of the key needs to be anagrammed
The entire question has 37 characters so i don't think anagram work here

That is not my point.

Since NatashaOtomoski is a clear anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto, the only clear question is whey he used it?

The answer could be, you need to use the same algorithm on the solution.

posted that awhile back
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/nakamoto-family-foundation-book-gets-stylometry-test/
the 21Teeth could refer to the book that came out with 21pages also using a cryptogram  so maybe the values given to each letter used to decipher the book title (in the link)
could be used to crack this.

NatashaOtomoski=Satoshi Nakamoto
both mentioning 21
and both using a cryptogram


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June 25, 2019, 04:51:00 PM
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Since NatashaOtomoski is a clear anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto, the only clear question is whey he used it?

The answer could be, you need to use the same algorithm on the solution.
Let's see:
SAT > gets reversed, stays in the same word, moves to the middle
OSHI > gets reversed, moves to the second word, moves to the end
NA > moves from second word to first word, same position
KA > moves to the first word, moves to the end
MOTO > gets reversed, stays in the same word, moves to the beginning
H and K > take each other's place

This could indeed be an algorithm, but it leaves a lot of possible ways to do this.



After 5 months, I'd really like it if someone takes the money and shows the solution. I like puzzles, but can't stand not knowing the solution Tongue

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June 25, 2019, 05:33:13 PM
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Since NatashaOtomoski is a clear anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto, the only clear question is whey he used it?

The answer could be, you need to use the same algorithm on the solution.
Let's see:
SAT > gets reversed, stays in the same word, moves to the middle
OSHI > gets reversed, moves to the second word, moves to the end
NA > moves from second word to first word, same position
KA > moves to the first word, moves to the end
MOTO > gets reversed, stays in the same word, moves to the beginning
H and K > take each other's place

This could indeed be an algorithm, but it leaves a lot of possible ways to do this.



After 5 months, I'd really like it if someone takes the money and shows the solution. I like puzzles, but can't stand not knowing the solution Tongue

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