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January 12, 2019, 07:28:21 PM
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We are seeing more and more futures exchanges becoming popular, bitmex, okcoin, huge daily volume. I can be sure that whales are profiting from the futures trading market by manipulating bitcoin prices.
It’s too hard to want a bull market, even now the price is low. Bitfinex doesn’t buy Bitcoin again.
The current market situation is that the whole sea is full of whales. So there will be no bull market in 2020. Whales will continue to profit on futures.
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January 12, 2019, 07:47:28 PM
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You must be joking, do you think they can forever push the price of Bitcoin don, if they even succeed doing this, they can only push the price don to $0, Whales knows what they are doing and will continue to use their bags to dictate what happends in the space but 2020 ia the next halving anyone that stand infront of three price will get hirt

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January 12, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
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Futures trading, or any type of trading will only be profitable if there are variations in the price. The price cannot constantly be pushed down and it remain profitable, the same with it going upwards. Futures trading is little indication of potential bullish or bearish periods as it's a relatively short-term outlook.

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January 12, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
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We are seeing more and more futures exchanges becoming popular, bitmex, okcoin, huge daily volume. I can be sure that whales are profiting from the futures trading market by manipulating bitcoin prices.
It’s too hard to want a bull market, even now the price is low. Bitfinex doesn’t buy Bitcoin again.
The current market situation is that the whole sea is full of whales. So there will be no bull market in 2020. Whales will continue to profit on futures.
no i don't think so, because after halving period in 2020 i'm sure and believe market are going little grow and keep stable until 2021.
but this is just my speculation, do with your own risk, never trust anyone

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January 12, 2019, 11:46:04 PM
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Dont you remember that theres bitcoin halving by 2020? I can understand if there will be no bull run by this year and we are going on to 2-year bear market which is very acceptable to say that something will turn the table by next year.
Dont be discouraged if the whales are manipulating the market, if they do something right of making the market well and stable, you dont even have to thank them.

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January 12, 2019, 11:53:58 PM
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We are seeing more and more futures exchanges becoming popular, bitmex, okcoin, huge daily volume. I can be sure that whales are profiting from the futures trading market by manipulating bitcoin prices.
It’s too hard to want a bull market, even now the price is low. Bitfinex doesn’t buy Bitcoin again.
The current market situation is that the whole sea is full of whales. So there will be no bull market in 2020. Whales will continue to profit on futures.
Not sure about that considering there will be less and less bitcoin in the market. Next halving will have occurred in the next year and it will give a huge impact to the bitcoin just like what has already done by ethereum a few weeks ago. Just never try to lose any hope in the bitcoin and that could be the main reason.

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January 13, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
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There are rumors of many big players with deep pockets buying bitcoin outside the exchanges slowly while the prices are low. It is matter of time before demand will overwhelm supply and prices explode up.
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January 13, 2019, 01:33:25 AM
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Do you mean no bull market until 2020? Well we have different predictions regarding the market and taking a look on it if this will continue bull market might wont happen in the next couple of years. We'll see, regarding BTC demand I still believe it will increase from time to time as long as it is being accepted globally in a daily basis.
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January 13, 2019, 03:21:53 AM
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As long as the general investors do not panic sell and panic buy or FOMO, the whale will not profit from anything. The whale is not always in control, until now people still have more control than the whale, so we need to keep hodl and fight the whole control.

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January 13, 2019, 03:44:29 AM
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Dont you remember that theres bitcoin halving by 2020? I can understand if there will be no bull run by this year and we are going on to 2-year bear market which is very acceptable to say that something will turn the table by next year.
Dont be discouraged if the whales are manipulating the market, if they do something right of making the market well and stable, you dont even have to thank them.
Indeed bitcoin halving will occur in 2020 and often the market will be bullish again, as happened in the previous year and always repeat itself. I think we will never be able to stop the whales, so we better focus on preparing assets to welcome 2020.
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January 13, 2019, 04:01:24 AM
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Dont you remember that theres bitcoin halving by 2020? I can understand if there will be no bull run by this year and we are going on to 2-year bear market which is very acceptable to say that something will turn the table by next year.
Dont be discouraged if the whales are manipulating the market, if they do something right of making the market well and stable, you dont even have to thank them.
Indeed bitcoin halving will occur in 2020 and often the market will be bullish again, as happened in the previous year and always repeat itself. I think we will never be able to stop the pope, so we better focus on preparing assets to welcome 2020.

It is possible that we will not have to wait until 2020. The Bull Run is associated with halving, but it's enough that google, mcdonald or another giant will announce that they accept Bitcoin to start another panic buy.

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January 13, 2019, 04:49:54 AM
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We are still waiting for bulls this year but if this year we don't have them next year. The Bubllish market is sure to exist, but the opportunity is not there yet and we will find, maybe your estimates can be missed, who knows that at the end of 2020, all nobody knows the bullish market will occur.
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January 13, 2019, 05:53:31 AM
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Maybe that is not reason why the bitcoin decrease or the market dump. Yes it is hard to start bull run but if we want we can do it easily and no one become hard because you and me are going to buy bitcoin again. We need to have teamwork in bitcoin community because Im not one and them are getting benefits and ofcoarse you are also gets more profits and benefits.
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January 13, 2019, 06:10:45 AM
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 Probably but it will happen only in my opinion unless if on this year market will rocketed again.  Because it's like what happened previously on the market wherein its stabilize and continue growing on year 2017 and break new records but unfortunately it's gradually crashing back to the Lowest price after which during year 2018.  So for me I'm pretty sure  there's a tend only that no bull in 2020 unless if the market recover back to the ATH also on this year.  
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January 13, 2019, 09:05:34 AM
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Back in 2017, there was tons of people who made very good money by trading the bitcoin futures and nobody ever complained then. There were bears who shorted at $10K thinking it was the top and they got rekt when BTC hit $20K last December.

Right now the reason why we get these barts up and down is due to low volume. So it doesn't take much in terms of sell/buy pressure to move price $100-$200 or so. In November of 2017, there was more participation and more liquidity so there were no crazy spikes like we see today.

Also when price was hitting $3100, there was very little sellers and the price had to reverse. So even if the future traders tried their best to short the bottom, they weren't succesful since the market clearly ran out of sellers and it had to go up and reverse.

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January 13, 2019, 11:08:35 AM
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We are seeing more and more futures exchanges becoming popular, bitmex, okcoin, huge daily volume. I can be sure that whales are profiting from the futures trading market by manipulating bitcoin prices.
It’s too hard to want a bull market, even now the price is low. Bitfinex doesn’t buy Bitcoin again.
The current market situation is that the whole sea is full of whales. So there will be no bull market in 2020. Whales will continue to profit on futures.

But this manipulation is exactly why the US SEC and CFTC won't be allowing futures to come any time soon. If they do, you can be sure they'll be watching these whales very closely, which is something the whales will wnat to avoid.

Bull market won't be here in 2019, this is almost certain from rational thinking. My earliest guess is 2020. But since when does the crypto market listen to rational thinking?

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January 13, 2019, 11:47:34 AM
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Your too advance , we are only at 2019 and youre already predicting what will happen  in 2020, how  would you know that there will be no bull.run on that year, even another halving will happen on thag year.
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price had already been stable for awhile from $3k-$4, maybe this is already a sign. it pumped earlier to more than $4k and back again, the price might not dip to less than $3k and so there is a chance that this will really go up sooner. all it needs is for the forked to be done and regardless of whether ETF is approved or not, prices will rise.









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January 13, 2019, 01:29:12 PM
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Dont you remember that theres bitcoin halving by 2020? I can understand if there will be no bull run by this year and we are going on to 2-year bear market which is very acceptable to say that something will turn the table by next year.
Dont be discouraged if the whales are manipulating the market, if they do something right of making the market well and stable, you dont even have to thank them.
Indeed bitcoin halving will occur in 2020 and often the market will be bullish again, as happened in the previous year and always repeat itself. I think we will never be able to stop the whales, so we better focus on preparing assets to welcome 2020.
I have that confidence which will create a bull run by that year. Yes, the 2016 halving created a bull run after a year so that's very likely. I don't have any expectation anymore for this year. I'm preparing for a better market by 2020 onwards.
And that preparation should start right now, we must compile all the assets that we can before that bull run comes. I'm quite prepared and wanting to start harvesting the profits by that time.

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January 13, 2019, 03:03:36 PM
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Regardless of what the whales are doing, but if they want to make long-term profits, they must maintain interest in the market. By killing the market with futures and options, they will earn, but its to bite the hand that feeds.
If we assume that huge market players are smart (and how else?), then for long-term profit, they will not allow the market to remain half-dead.

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