Why does the cosmos exist at all?

[af_newbie]

This question is for some heavy thinkers.

The multiverse theory is probably correct.  Many-Worlds Interpretation is also probably correct as well.
Talk about infinities!!!

But the bigger question is why, not how, the cosmos exists at all?

I've been thinking about it lately and the only explanation I can come up is that there no reason.  It just does.

What do you guys think?

PS. Please refrain from posting your religious mambo jumbo. I am talking about the cosmos, not just our universe.  Why is it there?

[DireWolfM14]

Perception is reality.

Does the cosmos actually exist or is it a figment of our collective perception?  I'm merely asking the question, because I don't know the answer.  Do I need to know the answer?  Does the answer change anything?

Lets go the other way, and ask a similar questions about the "micro-cosmos."  What force keeps the electrons and protons orbiting the nucleus of an atom, and why?

There is so much humanity has learned about our own existence, and the existence of the universe, but it's infinitesimal compared to how much more we can learn.  Learning usually leads to an understanding how little we know, and opens up even more questions.  Just keep learning, and not only you, but all humanity benefits.  

[sudeshkumar]

You have touched upon the real question every humane mind is on research what is this cosmos all about ,why it exit ,if any  superpower behind it or it is just created without any intervention of anybody? Multiverse or a single universe no body has proof that is why athiest call it a supernatural power and thiest call a superpower God has created this mysterious cosmos.

[af_newbie]

You have touched upon the real question every humane mind is on research what is this cosmos all about ,why it exit ,if any  superpower behind it or it is just created without any intervention of anybody? Multiverse or a single universe no body has proof that is why athiest call it a supernatural power and thiest call a superpower God has created this mysterious cosmos.

Let's stick to the why does it exist question.

Let's not bring supernatural or God constructs as this complicates the picture and raises more "what it is" and "how it was created" questions.

[sudeshkumar]

This question is for some heavy thinkers.

The multiverse theory is probably correct.  Many-Worlds Interpretation is also probably correct as well.
Talk about infinities!!!

But the bigger question is why, not how, the cosmos exists at all?

I've been thinking about it lately and the only explanation I can come up is that there no reason.  It just does.

What do you guys think?

PS. Please refrain from posting your religious mambo jumbo. I am talking about the cosmos, not just our universe.  Why is it there?

  I am of the opinion that cosmos  was existing from million years ,it is existing and will exist forever.
And it has no reason as you stated also,it just does.

[ATMD]

Variation seems to be favored over uniformity. Different universes, different stars, different planets, different species etc.

If no cosmos exist, there is zero variation.

[sudeshkumar]

You have touched upon the real question every humane mind is on research what is this cosmos all about ,why it exit ,if any  superpower behind it or it is just created without any intervention of anybody? Multiverse or a single universe no body has proof that is why athiest call it a supernatural power and thiest call a superpower God has created this mysterious cosmos.

Let's stick to the why does it exist question.

Let's not bring supernatural or God constructs as this complicates the picture and raises more "what it is" and "how it was created" questions.

This  is a  question yet to be known because  scientists are still under the progress to know why cosmos exist and  what were the reasons behind it ,Bing bang theory is the prove of it  .In broader sense we want to know the reason for origination of it which is in scientific world is still a mystery .In my opinion there was a pitch dark all around and after a sudden explosion due to interior activities this pitch dark object smashed into pieces fell apart and gradually it taken the shapes of different galaxies stars ,planets spaces to which we call cosmos today.

[af_newbie]

You have touched upon the real question every humane mind is on research what is this cosmos all about ,why it exit ,if any  superpower behind it or it is just created without any intervention of anybody? Multiverse or a single universe no body has proof that is why athiest call it a supernatural power and thiest call a superpower God has created this mysterious cosmos.

Let's stick to the why does it exist question.

Let's not bring supernatural or God constructs as this complicates the picture and raises more "what it is" and "how it was created" questions.

This  is a  question yet to be known because  scientists are still under the progress to know why cosmos exist and  what were the reasons behind it ,Bing bang theory is the prove of it  .In broader sense we want to know the reason for origination of it which is in scientific world is still a mystery .In my opinion there was a pitch dark all around and after a sudden explosion due to interior activities this pitch dark object smashed into pieces fell apart and gradually it taken the shapes of different galaxies stars ,planets spaces to which we call cosmos today.

Ok, I was not asking about why the Big Bang happened.  It was a natural process that started this creation of spacetime and expansion of energy.  That is not the question.

I was asking why the "pitch dark all around" existed at all, as you put it.

If our universe came from "nothing" or "something", why this "nothing" or "something" existed at all.

This, of course, is hard to imagine as there was no time before the BB for something to exist in.  

I am curious about the cosmos beyond our universe if there is one, why it exists at all.

Maybe first we have to answer if anything can exist without time?

[_Miracle]

This question is for some heavy thinkers.

The multiverse theory is probably correct.  Many-Worlds Interpretation is also probably correct as well.
Talk about infinities!!!

But the bigger question is why, not how, the cosmos exists at all?

I've been thinking about it lately and the only explanation I can come up is that there no reason.  It just does.

[/u]What do you guys think?

PS. Please refrain from posting your religious mambo jumbo. I am talking about the cosmos, not just our universe.  Why is it there?

Why does there have to be a why?
We could be speck on a petri dish or the mechanistic function of natural laws.

I personally like : multiverses where everything that has happened or will happen in every variation already exists.
Forms of existence that have endlessly variable laws of physics.

[_Miracle]

Or
We are a collective consciousness that is only projecting materiel reality.
Or
You are only a thought in your own head and the only thing that exists :-)

[ATMD]

Given infinity, something that could possibly exist would exist.

Something that could not possibly exist would never exist.

Can something exist outside of time? The question creates an assumption that time is finite. If time is finite, and if there happens to be something that always exists, it would therefore exist outside of time.

However if time is infinite, then nothing could exist outside of time, even for something that always exists. It would just exist along an infinite timeline.

[sudeshkumar]

You have touched upon the real question every humane mind is on research what is this cosmos all about ,why it exit ,if any  superpower behind it or it is just created without any intervention of anybody? Multiverse or a single universe no body has proof that is why athiest call it a supernatural power and thiest call a superpower God has created this mysterious cosmos.

Let's stick to the why does it exist question.

Let's not bring supernatural or God constructs as this complicates the picture and raises more "what it is" and "how it was created" questions.

This  is a  question yet to be known because  scientists are still under the progress to know why cosmos exist and  what were the reasons behind it ,Bing bang theory is the prove of it  .In broader sense we want to know the reason for origination of it which is in scientific world is still a mystery .In my opinion there was a pitch dark all around and after a sudden explosion due to interior activities this pitch dark object smashed into pieces fell apart and gradually it taken the shapes of different galaxies stars ,planets spaces to which we call cosmos today.

Ok, I was not asking about why the Big Bang happened.  It was a natural process that started this creation of spacetime and expansion of energy.  That is not the question.

I was asking why the "pitch dark all around" existed at all, as you put it.

If our universe came from "nothing" or "something", why this "nothing" or "something" existed at all.

This, of course, is hard to imagine as there was no time before the BB for something to exist in.  

I am curious about the cosmos beyond our universe if there is one, why it exists at all.

Maybe first we have to answer if anything can exist without time?

You may call it by whatever name u like creation , God or Supernatural power ,nothing or something anything you can quote about it ,but as far as  humane mind goes beyond  ,questions will attach to it that is humane tendency ,but answer is already hidden in your reply that cosmos just exists without any reason and nobody has created it and my opinion also match with your statement. Space and time also discovered by humane being ,other creatures who do not know the concept of space and time they are just living, without  its knowledge .

[BADecker]

However, everything acts according to cause and effect, perfectly, from macrocosm to microcosm. We have found nothing that doesn't act according to cause and effect.

What I mean is, if an electron or any other particle was bumped by its cause(s) in slightly a different way, it would act differently, producing different results, and the universe would act differently. Why? Because all the other particles act just as they act because they were bumped just exactly as they were bumped. And whatever bumped them, bumped them just exactly like they did... all the way back to the start of the whole thing.

The point is that the whole universe acts like it is programmed. We barely see the programming - try tracking an electron the same way you tag and track a dear in the woods.

Since it is programming, there must have been some kind of programmer. The programmer must be extremely knowledgeable and capable to program something like the universe.

[af_newbie]

However, everything acts according to cause and effect, perfectly, from macrocosm to microcosm. We have found nothing that doesn't act according to cause and effect.

What I mean is, if an electron or any other particle was bumped by its cause(s) in slightly a different way, it would act differently, producing different results, and the universe would act differently. Why? Because all the other particles act just as they act because they were bumped just exactly as they were bumped. And whatever bumped them, bumped them just exactly like they did... all the way back to the start of the whole thing.

The point is that the whole universe acts like it is programmed. We barely see the programming - try tracking an electron the same way you tag and track a dear in the woods.

Since it is programming, there must have been some kind of programmer. The programmer must be extremely knowledgeable and capable to program something like the universe.

Assuming that everything you said is correct (which it is not, but it does not matter) and the programmer exists, why does the programmer exist?  That was my question.

[BADecker]

However, everything acts according to cause and effect, perfectly, from macrocosm to microcosm. We have found nothing that doesn't act according to cause and effect.

What I mean is, if an electron or any other particle was bumped by its cause(s) in slightly a different way, it would act differently, producing different results, and the universe would act differently. Why? Because all the other particles act just as they act because they were bumped just exactly as they were bumped. And whatever bumped them, bumped them just exactly like they did... all the way back to the start of the whole thing.

The point is that the whole universe acts like it is programmed. We barely see the programming - try tracking an electron the same way you tag and track a dear in the woods.

Since it is programming, there must have been some kind of programmer. The programmer must be extremely knowledgeable and capable to program something like the universe.

Assuming that everything you said is correct (which it is not, but it does not matter) and the programmer exists, why does the programmer exist?  That was my question.

The type of thinking that it would take to understand the whys of the Programmer, is something that would twist the mind all out of shape, and probably destroy it.

Find a wrong point in what I said and explain why it is wrong... other than that it was said extremely simply.

[af_newbie]

This question is for some heavy thinkers.

The multiverse theory is probably correct.  Many-Worlds Interpretation is also probably correct as well.
Talk about infinities!!!

But the bigger question is why, not how, the cosmos exists at all?

I've been thinking about it lately and the only explanation I can come up is that there no reason.  It just does.

[/u]What do you guys think?

PS. Please refrain from posting your religious mambo jumbo. I am talking about the cosmos, not just our universe.  Why is it there?

Why does there have to be a why?
We could be speck on a petri dish or the mechanistic function of natural laws.

I personally like : multiverses where everything that has happened or will happen in every variation already exists.
Forms of existence that have endlessly variable laws of physics.

You are right, it is a bit ignorant of me to ask the why question.  But still, I wonder.

The true infinity concept is hard to grasp and the best I can come up with there cannot be the why because the cosmos is infinite and there never can be anything outside of it, by definition.

Still, why the fuck does it exist?

To rephrase the question:
1. For religious people: Why does God exist? What created it?  What created the creator of the creator etc., into infinity?
2. For non-religious people: Why does nature (cosmos) exist (in this and all other universes)?

I cannot see any answer that would make sense.  

[af_newbie]

However, everything acts according to cause and effect, perfectly, from macrocosm to microcosm. We have found nothing that doesn't act according to cause and effect.

What I mean is, if an electron or any other particle was bumped by its cause(s) in slightly a different way, it would act differently, producing different results, and the universe would act differently. Why? Because all the other particles act just as they act because they were bumped just exactly as they were bumped. And whatever bumped them, bumped them just exactly like they did... all the way back to the start of the whole thing.

The point is that the whole universe acts like it is programmed. We barely see the programming - try tracking an electron the same way you tag and track a dear in the woods.

Since it is programming, there must have been some kind of programmer. The programmer must be extremely knowledgeable and capable to program something like the universe.

Assuming that everything you said is correct (which it is not, but it does not matter) and the programmer exists, why does the programmer exist?  That was my question.

The type of thinking that it would take to understand the whys of the Programmer, is something that would twist the mind all out of shape, and probably destroy it.

Find a wrong point in what I said and explain why it is wrong... other than that it was said extremely simply.

You did not answer the question.  You just introduced the programmer into the picture.  The question still remains unanswered.

[_Miracle]

“You are right, it is a bit ignorant of me to ask the why question.  But still, I wonder.

The true infinity concept is hard to grasp and the best I can come up with there cannot be the why because the cosmos is infinite and there never can be anything outside of it, by definition.

Still, why the fuck does it exist?

To rephrase the question:
1. For religious people: Why does God exist? What created it?  What created the creator of the creator etc., into infinity?
2. For non-religious people: Why does nature (cosmos) exist (in this and all other universes)?

I cannot see any answer that would make sense. “




It is not ignorant to ask the question why; it is human nature, a function of our gorgeously complex brains.

I was trying be respectful by keeping the religious "mumbo jumbo" out but I'm a believer so here goes...
1.
What if god IS everything and has always been.

In many religious texts the word used to describe god is "ineffable".

“God said to Moses, ‘I AM who I AM.’ And he said, ‘Say this to the people of Israel, I AM has sent me to you’” (Ex. 3:14).
In The Bhagavad Gita god tells prince Arjuna that there is NO way to stray from god and that god is whatever manifestation you need god to be at that time.

Every revision of religion seems to be god trying to have a relationship with people in whichever way they can relate to "the ineffable" ---or a way for humans to answer “why” to a question that doesn’t have an answer because we don’t even know enough yet to ask the right ones.
As humans we are still discovering our environment, what we know so far may not even be 1% of what we need to know to learn another 1% (we don't know :-)

2.
Mechanistic function of natural laws (the least and most exciting answer)

[af_newbie]

“You are right, it is a bit ignorant of me to ask the why question.  But still, I wonder.

The true infinity concept is hard to grasp and the best I can come up with there cannot be the why because the cosmos is infinite and there never can be anything outside of it, by definition.

Still, why the fuck does it exist?

To rephrase the question:
1. For religious people: Why does God exist? What created it?  What created the creator of the creator etc., into infinity?
2. For non-religious people: Why does nature (cosmos) exist (in this and all other universes)?

I cannot see any answer that would make sense. “




It is not ignorant to ask the question why; it is human nature, a function of our gorgeously complex brains.

I was trying be respectful by keeping the religious "mumbo jumbo" out but I'm a believer so here goes...
1.
What if god IS everything and has always been.

In many religious texts the word used to describe god is "ineffable".

“God said to Moses, ‘I AM who I AM.’ And he said, ‘Say this to the people of Israel, I AM has sent me to you’” (Ex. 3:14).
In The Bhagavad Gita god tells prince Arjuna that there is NO way to stray from god and that god is whatever manifestation you need god to be at that time.

Every revision of religion seems to be god trying to have a relationship with people in whichever way they can relate to "the ineffable" ---or a way for humans to answer “why” to a question that doesn’t have an answer because we don’t even know enough yet to ask the right ones.
As humans we are still discovering our environment, what we know so far may not even be 1% of what we need to know to learn another 1% (we don't know :-)

2.
Mechanistic function of natural laws (the least and most exciting answer)

The obvious question to you then is: why does God exist?

[_Miracle]

"The obvious question to you then is: why does God exist?"


That's a question for you to answer for yourself, any external answer to that question would be meaningless.

Learn to meditate
or you can hack your brain with psychedelics if you are impatient.