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January 16, 2019, 09:33:36 PM
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Hello. My friend's account was banned. Please tell me the reason for what happened. Thank you very much.
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January 16, 2019, 09:39:59 PM
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If i read " My friend's account was banned." ..........

Maybe your other Account because not posting an Account profil !

Other question , was or is banned !

Thats your Friend or other Account i guess  :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909172    ?

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January 16, 2019, 09:51:34 PM
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Maybe your other Account because not posting an Account profil !
Thats your Friend or other Account i guess  :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909172    ?

just a, maybe stupid, question but how do you find out these correlation between accounts?
Id there are ones.
Just interested in general and not related to this issue.


for this thread, normaly the ban reason is told while try to logged in.

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January 16, 2019, 09:54:20 PM
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The OP got 1 Merit from the banned User !
So i guess its an Alt or an other Account from the OP !

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January 16, 2019, 09:57:53 PM
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is this your friend's profile > https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=yla1974

most likely plagiarism ban.

also there is something strange, does "your friend" speak both Spanish and Russian or he used google translator on his posts ? because i see him posting in 3 languages, posts that involve some technical terms that you either be fluent in that language or use uncle google.

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January 16, 2019, 09:59:21 PM
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I was looking on Bpip  too and i am sure it is !

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January 16, 2019, 10:00:06 PM
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correlation between accounts

It's in the thread title.

Hello. My friend's account was banned. Please tell me the reason for what happened. Thank you very much.

The reason is plagiarism AKA copypasta. You're welcome. Have a good day.
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January 16, 2019, 10:11:54 PM
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just a, maybe stupid, question but how do you find out these correlation between accounts?
Id there are ones.
Just interested in general and not related to this issue.
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You know the Sherlock film: "The Hounds of Baskervilles"? [1]
"Oh, Mr. Holmes, I would love to tell you, but then, of course, I'd have to kill you." Cheesy

We just can't tell all the secrets of finding links between individual user IDs openly, because if we write it here, all the spammers and scammers will read them too and they will care about those little things that are now linking together their accounts...

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Last edit: January 17, 2019, 01:16:03 AM by Veleor
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January 17, 2019, 10:06:26 PM
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He bought an account on the forum in the month of July 2018. There is evidence. Looks like the previous owner acted like a crook. Used plagiarism. Due to the fact that it is not the account that is being punished but a person, is there any sense in punishing with permabun new owner, for what he did not do.?
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January 17, 2019, 10:21:20 PM
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He bought an account on the forum in the month of July 2018. There is evidence. Looks like the previous owner acted like a crook. Used plagiarism. Due to the fact that it is not the account that is being punished but a person, is there any sense in punishing with permabun new owner, for what he did not do.?
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Fine. Think of it as banning the previous owner and buying a banned account.
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January 20, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
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He bought an account on the forum in the month of July 2018. There is evidence. Looks like the previous owner acted like a crook. Used plagiarism. Due to the fact that it is not the account that is being punished but a person, is there any sense in punishing with permabun new owner, for what he did not do.?
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Fine. Think of it as banning the previous owner and buying a banned account.
In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
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January 20, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
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In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
No, that analogy is not right. A better analogy is if the previous owner threw sand in the crankcase causing the engine to blow up some time later after you bought it, then blaming the car's manufacturer for allowing used car sales. The moral of the story is, when buying a used car from a stranger, check the oil first, if only to make sure it is in fact oil and not sand.

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January 21, 2019, 12:06:30 AM
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Hello. My friend's account was banned.

Your "brother" Criptomen was banned because of plagiarism and now it's happened to your "friend". Do your relatives have other accounts?

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum. The account received the ban through the fault of the former owner who received $ 3000 for it. Why should the rules allow the trading of accounts, if not respected property rights? Who benefits from trading accounts on the forum?
Why do we need rules that do not work? It already looks like a fraud.
Who is punished with a ban?
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January 21, 2019, 12:20:45 AM
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Almost every account of the "farm" (I guess all sold now) are now banned:

alex bond for plagiarism

fantom1962. for plagiarism
yla1974 for plagiarism
miramax-10 banned plagiarism no confirmation
viktoriya1945 for plagiarism
Webcelerator. banned plagiarism no confirmation


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January 22, 2019, 09:36:26 PM
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Hello. My friend's account was banned.

Your "brother" Criptomen was banned because of plagiarism and now it's happened to your "friend". Do your relatives have other accounts?

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum. The account received the ban through the fault of the former owner who received $ 3000 for it. Why should the rules allow the trading of accounts, if not respected property rights? Who benefits from trading accounts on the forum?
Why do we need rules that do not work? It already looks like a fraud.
Who is punished with a ban?
You are right, the same thing happened to my brother. But there was proven his fault, and not the previous owner. He made a mistake in the translation, and it was given for plagiarism.
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January 22, 2019, 09:37:54 PM
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Almost every account of the "farm" (I guess all sold now) are now banned:

alex bond for plagiarism

fantom1962. for plagiarism
yla1974 for plagiarism
miramax-10 banned plagiarism no confirmation
viktoriya1945 for plagiarism
Webcelerator. banned plagiarism no confirmation


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Missing some accounts on this list, if we dig more I guess we can finish them
If the accounts are really connected, I think it is worth punishing the fraudster.
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January 22, 2019, 09:44:09 PM
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In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
No, that analogy is not right. A better analogy is if the previous owner threw sand in the crankcase causing the engine to blow up some time later after you bought it, then blaming the car's manufacturer for allowing used car sales. The moral of the story is, when buying a used car from a stranger, check the oil first, if only to make sure it is in fact oil and not sand.
It is convenient to interpret the rules to those who write them, but the fact remains. Failure to regulate trade accounts, and there is aiding fraud. It’s not for me to judge you, time will judge. I would reconsider the question of trading accounts. People do not like when they are deceived, and it does not honor our forum.
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In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
No, that analogy is not right. A better analogy is if the previous owner threw sand in the crankcase causing the engine to blow up some time later after you bought it, then blaming the car's manufacturer for allowing used car sales. The moral of the story is, when buying a used car from a stranger, check the oil first, if only to make sure it is in fact oil and not sand.
It is convenient to interpret the rules to those who write them, but the fact remains. Failure to regulate trade accounts, and there is aiding fraud. It’s not for me to judge you, time will judge. I would reconsider the question of trading accounts. People do not like when they are deceived, and it does not honor our forum.


You are asking for help that would work almost like a state justice. The fact that it is not totally forbidden does not mean that the buying and selling of accounts are encouraged. Regulating this trade would bring responsibilities that the forum does not want to have.

Whoever buys an account knows the risks it runs. Do not try to hold the forum responsible for your risky, and stupid, decisions.

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