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January 21, 2019, 10:54:32 PM |
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E-sports related gambling system is not that appealing to anyone here. There are some but not that much. As far as my own analyzation is concern, crypto gambling users are not that really into e-sports.
$10,000 amount is not a joke so you can't just say to investors that it will be a success after 3 months and they can expect profit after that. That's why others will surely not be interested to the offer. It's a pure "gamble". Even how well structured your plan is, people will not just put money on it.
You can target audience outside crypto world like on an online game community forum if you are really serious. This is a crypto forum and testing the waters here will not be effective.
Thank you for your reply and I do know 10.000 USD is not a joke. E-sports are something else and we're not related to E-sports. The Gambling website will have crypto deposits and withdrawals. CS:GO Gambling was about esports at a point and still is but the coinflip is not related to any kind of esports. I've been in the E-sports gambling if you want to call it like that but the people who gambled in the CS:GO websites didn't care about what games of CS:GO are playing or what championships are there, they wanted skins or money. So people will want Crypto or pure cash and that's why they will gamble. I have a team of youtubers which have very good affiliate numbers related to crypto and also have studied the crypto gambling youtubers and picked up a few. So the idea is that this is not a E-sports gambling website or E-sports matching gambling website. It's pure coinflip, head or tails. The hardest thing is to get the population from 0 to 1 and from there you can work it out.
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January 21, 2019, 11:13:39 PM |
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Thank you for your reply and I do know 10.000 USD is not a joke. E-sports are something else and we're not related to E-sports. The Gambling website will have crypto deposits and withdrawals. CS:GO Gambling was about esports at a point and still is but the coinflip is not related to any kind of esports. I've been in the E-sports gambling if you want to call it like that but the people who gambled in the CS:GO websites didn't care about what games of CS:GO are playing or what championships are there, they wanted skins or money. So people will want Crypto or pure cash and that's why they will gamble. I have a team of youtubers which have very good affiliate numbers related to crypto and also have studied the crypto gambling youtubers and picked up a few. So the idea is that this is not a E-sports gambling website or E-sports matching gambling website. It's pure coinflip, head or tails. The hardest thing is to get the population from 0 to 1 and from there you can work it out. Well then if that's the case, like I said, you can try targeting audience outside crypto community. You said that: "I'm known by CSGOReaper Owner, CSGOEmpire owners, Gamdom owners and CSGOHunt owners. Whoever was involved into the CS:GO Gambling know this sites and I personally can manage to get you in touch with the owners and let you know what I've did for them and how did I help them. I know a lot background information from them and I'd like to keep it private."Why not seek assistance from them? Or the community they belong to? For sure they will be interested on your concept and plus the fact that they know you. It's really difficult to find an investor here especially with the current crypto market behaviour. Most crypto users preferred to just do trades and not to risk money on anything except on a well established and reputable site. Even project ICOs with good roadmaps on which is a pure crypto related thing failed most of the time when doing a crowdfund. Im not here to argue with you just to be clear. I just want to enlighten you that I doubt someone will invest on your project.
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January 22, 2019, 05:41:27 AM |
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I've posted it here because I am new to the forum and saw "Investments" and I was thinking it was the right place but thank you for letting me know and thank you for the support and the criticism. I've never seen a positive or a decent response that's why I was so down about this community.
Maybe because you are new to this forum so as many people just make negative comments about what you want in this thread. Just a suggestion, when you have a purport , especially one that ends in money thing then made what you want by being transparent. Show the concept that you have and what you are doing until everyone understands what you are doing, how you/team work and finally this forum will assess the good and bad of what you are doing. I think it's quite simple for you, compared to just bringing everyone who wants to join you and only using personal chat to describe the concept you have, I guess it's not transparent and undesirable by this forum.
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January 22, 2019, 09:13:08 AM |
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I have seen so many such claims and we are all experienced enough to know that there is no such thing as guaranteed profit. Especially not if you can get back 10k in PROFIT in 3 months. Look at all the gambling sites here with so many years of experience,,, 10k in a month took them many years. And to get that amount at 1% house edge means you need people to gamble 1 million dollars. Sure, you can achieve this after years but after 3 months? And you claim this is player vs player. You want to show us some proof first? You cannot.
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January 22, 2019, 11:54:37 AM |
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Seriously this is not the place to ask for investors at all, this is the gamblers side. This is the place where you people to come join on your new casino and play there with some deposit bonus and what not, this is the place to gather all gamblers at once place and than promote your new place or even the old place. However, if you are looking for an investor, do you really think any investor would be willing to invest can actually exists among gamblers ?
I mean anyone who is rich enough to invest 10 thousand dollars (which is A LOT OF money for most parts of the world) can exist in gambling section without losing all of his money? Anyone who doesn't mind investing 10 thousand dollars for something this shady looking needs to be a millionaire and to be fair they do not become millionaires by investing into unknown stuff.
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January 22, 2019, 05:23:18 PM |
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In the gambling industry, people simply say that they can double the investment or get high returns in much shorter time period. One who has known well about the gambling industry will never fall for such promises. Because, in the same gambling industry lot of websites have gone bankrupt in no time just because of their lacking in some plans and execution thinking it a simple process.
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AnythingYouLookingFor (OP)
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January 23, 2019, 08:31:29 PM |
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I have seen so many such claims and we are all experienced enough to know that there is no such thing as guaranteed profit. Especially not if you can get back 10k in PROFIT in 3 months. Look at all the gambling sites here with so many years of experience,,, 10k in a month took them many years. And to get that amount at 1% house edge means you need people to gamble 1 million dollars. Sure, you can achieve this after years but after 3 months? And you claim this is player vs player. You want to show us some proof first? You cannot.
First of all you're one like the others who are just spreading stupidity. Since you're a god and know it all,like the 1% fee you're used to, who said this project will have a 1% fee? If it's a coinflip player vs player what kind of proof do you need? Some of you do not deserve the rank you have since you're so thicc minded. Do something with your life instead of involving in subjects you are not informed about.
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January 23, 2019, 09:14:59 PM |
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Your idea (player to player) is good. But 10k USD is just nothing. You have to spend a lot of money for security, servers and then marketing. Moreover no one will blindly trust you and invest 10k USD on your ideas here. There are many big players in the market and its not that easy to succeed in this industry. I am not discouraging you. Your intentions may be good or bad. God alone knows that. But here people will not trust any one so easily. I personally got scammed in this forum couple of times. You can try to fish the investors in some other place (if your intentions are really god).
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January 23, 2019, 09:30:01 PM |
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You could open your thread in long-term loans section, maybe chances would be higher there but to my mind, in any way it will be hard for you to find investor. Casino isn't only put money and get profit, you need dedicated servers, team of developers, take care of money laundering and so on. Do you have this team? This is basic information which you had to include in your topic to get people interested in. You can just ignore critics if you want, at least that will bump your thread if nothing, see a little positive. @All,
I'm done with this forum. Every time I'm trying to do something I'm judged by people who doesn't ask for any kind of information. Which of you even messaged me on telegram so you can hear what I'd have to say regarding that? Which one of you asked for the references and even the portofolio of the web developing company among with the references? None of you. Once i'll have the site even if it is gonna take a bit more and it'll have success I'll bump up this post so you can remember your mistake and even if it will take years you'll eventually apologize.
Wish you all the best, Great community trying to help others realise something in their life, Great human behaviour, Great respect, Keep it up!
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January 23, 2019, 09:33:57 PM |
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In the gambling industry, people simply say that they can double the investment or get high returns in much shorter time period. One who has known well about the gambling industry will never fall for such promises. Because, in the same gambling industry lot of websites have gone bankrupt in no time just because of their lacking in some plans and execution thinking it a simple process.
It is logical looking for investors for proven strategy with successful records but some industries are not suitable with idea of minimized risks and maximized rewards. Gambling with other people's money requires strong mental,emotional sustainability which can be hard to keep under control when someone else's money involved in gambling.
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January 23, 2019, 09:58:48 PM |
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You could open your thread in long-term loans section, maybe chances would be higher there but to my mind, in any way it will be hard for you to find investor. Casino isn't only put money and get profit, you need dedicated servers, team of developers, take care of money laundering and so on. Do you have this team? This is basic information which you had to include in your topic to get people interested in. You can just ignore critics if you want, at least that will bump your thread if nothing, see a little positive. @All,
I'm done with this forum. Every time I'm trying to do something I'm judged by people who doesn't ask for any kind of information. Which of you even messaged me on telegram so you can hear what I'd have to say regarding that? Which one of you asked for the references and even the portofolio of the web developing company among with the references? None of you. Once i'll have the site even if it is gonna take a bit more and it'll have success I'll bump up this post so you can remember your mistake and even if it will take years you'll eventually apologize.
Wish you all the best, Great community trying to help others realise something in their life, Great human behaviour, Great respect, Keep it up!
Quoted for reference. Thank you! The support team I have it already, the web development company I have it already. I've got people who would wish to work as moderator for me from different countries since I want to have a support in many languages. I've got marketing mangers which were part of the gambling websites.
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January 24, 2019, 06:23:58 PM |
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Many people told you the same thing but you insist on cursing at them and saying horrible things to them instead. You can not just expect people to reach out to you and learn why they should invest their 10 thousand dollars with you.
We all know that is a lot of money and you must realize it more than others since you are the one who needs it but then you say "well find me and ask me if you want to be a part of this" and leave, its not acceptable in bitcointalk where many people where scammed. You may not be a scammer (I think you do not look like a scammer at all, you do look like a professional) however your attitude and your reactions to people and your lack of information just puts many people away.
I suggest you create a funding round and instead of looking for 10 thousand dollars from one person give many people right to invest as little as 1 satoshi if they want and that way it will be easier to reach your 10 thousand dollars because many people will say "its just 100 dollars whats the worst could happen" and invest instead of just one guy putting all 10 thousand dollars into it.
Think about that option, it will probably work the best for you, but when you do that please provide ALL information and all graphics and basically EVERYTHING you can present please put it up so people will know what they are investing into without trying to talk to you about it.
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January 25, 2019, 01:25:26 PM |
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Many people told you the same thing but you insist on cursing at them and saying horrible things to them instead. You can not just expect people to reach out to you and learn why they should invest their 10 thousand dollars with you.
We all know that is a lot of money and you must realize it more than others since you are the one who needs it but then you say "well find me and ask me if you want to be a part of this" and leave, its not acceptable in bitcointalk where many people where scammed. You may not be a scammer (I think you do not look like a scammer at all, you do look like a professional) however your attitude and your reactions to people and your lack of information just puts many people away.
I suggest you create a funding round and instead of looking for 10 thousand dollars from one person give many people right to invest as little as 1 satoshi if they want and that way it will be easier to reach your 10 thousand dollars because many people will say "its just 100 dollars whats the worst could happen" and invest instead of just one guy putting all 10 thousand dollars into it.
Think about that option, it will probably work the best for you, but when you do that please provide ALL information and all graphics and basically EVERYTHING you can present please put it up so people will know what they are investing into without trying to talk to you about it.
You are right about a few things and as I've read all the comments I've understood that this is not the right place and I'll close this thread in order to make a decent on into crowfunding. Also I am not insisting in cursing people, I am just had a bad behaviour and reaction to the people who assume they know everything and do the maths better than me. If they are math teachers they should let me know but I'm sure they are not mediums in their free time, if you know what I mean. I will start a crowfunding project and will make a thread with all the informations you are looking for. Thank you for the support(To those who gave me an advice or a decent critic on the post) and thank you to the mediums who know everything aswell, you should go play lottery since you know everything aswell. I'm not unprofessional but i go by a quote: "Give respect to earn respect" Have a good one y'all.
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January 25, 2019, 03:57:28 PM |
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Your project looks good well that is obviously on paper am hoping that it's as good as you tell but in another thought this is the wrong section for this why not try the service board
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January 25, 2019, 04:05:05 PM |
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Your project looks good well that is obviously on paper am hoping that it's as good as you tell but in another thought this is the wrong section for this why not try the service board
Thank you for that. As I've been adviced by the most of the members I've created a new thread and you can find it here. Hope everything works decent from now on and you can read it all. If any of you have any questions you can ask me over there and I'll reply at the with pleasure. Please do not come over there in order to assume things, ask first and if you're right I will not be a cocky guy and will happily agree with you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102169.0 Here is the link of the project.
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January 26, 2019, 06:02:28 AM |
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May be you can send the details here to make sure everything is transparant so nothing to hide here. With a good market and support I believe everything is going to be good but to create anything like PvP based games is somehow quite hard in bitcoin world. Eventhough you have really good markerting, it is hard to maintain them to keep on staying on Pvp based games
Do you mind send me the details? May be I would like to try it then see how its work
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January 26, 2019, 06:17:32 AM |
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Dear All,
I am in the online gambling community since Nov 2010. I've been a marketing manager and a community manager at a few sites which can be provided with references @Telegram. I'm seeking for a investor or a group of people who'd like to invest into my project. The full details will be given @Telegram. The amount I'm looking for is 10.000 USD for 10% of the project. You'll get your money back in less then 3 months and you'll be able to gain profit after it. I'm gonna give you full details regarding what I'm doing with the money, you'll be a part of the investor team,you'll get much higher rate of the profits untill you get your investment back so it's gonna be most likely earlier then you'll expect. I know 101% what the gamblers are looking for, we're not gonna do a Player vs House game, we will have a Player vs Player game so the investors cannot lose any money if a player wins.
@AnythingByExcelsior on Telegram
Best regards, Excelsior
It seems like a lending post without any collateral. Anyway, any investor or investors will not invest such an amount for the request of a newbie account holder. Better try to take help from your local people I think that will be the better choice of you.
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January 26, 2019, 07:31:43 AM |
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It's looks interesting but am still not convinced you have no strong reputation yet and is too much of a risk to invest with 10000$ into your project. Since you sure of making profit why not go get a loan from the bank or somewhere and get into business
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January 27, 2019, 11:58:08 AM |
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It's looks interesting but am still not convinced you have no strong reputation yet and is too much of a risk to invest with 10000$ into your project. Since you sure of making profit why not go get a loan from the bank or somewhere and get into business
I strongly agree with you that op is a newbie and to a strangers words, no one will be interested to invest 10000$. If there was a good track record then people could consider the case and by that situation, they could be interested to invest on the so-called project.
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