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March 10, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
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I was going to go the route of more s9's buy them low price.

I think I am going to only order m10's they  fit so much more hash power in the same space as an s9.

Maybe a t15 a t17 and a s17  for testing.

I also have heard of the L5  for LTC  it does 1400mh for 1400 watts
It is a small improvement over the L3+   which 2 do 1000mh for 1400 watts

I think no more older gear.

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March 11, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
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I looked at your setup  how many  m10's could fit if you were all m10?
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March 11, 2019, 05:14:53 PM
Last edit: March 11, 2019, 10:58:11 PM by frodocooper
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the m10 size and shape works well for us.  we could fit 8 per rack shelf with 10 shelves 80 m10s

of course  that is 80 x 2200 watts or 176 kwatts  which we can not cool yet

we also do not have that much 'free' power from the solar array.

So we are

ordering an m10 today

the funds sent are

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/3Dh9jM33EhUTbBYm8p4Mo9B6zZdXVPgNyp/

this will be 8th one

we will pull

the last s7ln and a pair of a721's   trading 14th and 2200 watts for   31th and 2200 watts.

also more rack space as 3 miners and 2 psus will be removed for the 1 m10

we will be about 65 kwatts which is the goal.

So we have

 1 m10 coming  2200 watts
 1 t15 coming    1600 watts
 1 s9                 1200 watts
 1 l3+                 700 watts

5700 watts to add

1 s7 ln off line    700 watts
2 a721's off line 1500 watts

2200 watts offline

this is a gain of 3500 watts  also  plus 62th - 14 th net gain of 48th btc   and 500 mh ltc

pretty sure this caps us heat wise
as for power  we  are capped on the solar side

but we have way more available power if coins go up in price.

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March 11, 2019, 08:11:31 PM
Last edit: March 11, 2019, 10:58:51 PM by frodocooper
 #124

Really nice setup with the solar have you thought about liquid cooling the miners in novec or dielectric coolant?

https://www.engineeredfluids.com/coolfluids

Been looking at pulling the boards from my miners and sinking them into this stuff.

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March 11, 2019, 08:25:26 PM
Last edit: March 12, 2019, 12:34:02 AM by philipma1957
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Really nice setup with the solar have you thought about liquid cooling the miners in novec or dielectric coolant?

https://www.engineeredfluids.com/coolfluids

Been looking at pulling the boards from my miners and sinking them into this stuff.

well  the new unpurchased location could be 2 mega watt build  divide by 7 =  280kwatts 24/7/365

If that deal goes through we could consider it.

280 k-watts is about 90-110 m10s

around 3ph of hash.

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April 01, 2019, 10:02:21 PM
Last edit: April 02, 2019, 12:23:04 AM by frodocooper
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The fan is installed it is a beast Cheesy
It moves 14000 cfm+

1hp motor 230 volts at 5.5 amps or about 1 s9 Grin

temps dropped 25f in 1 hour run time



https://www.gamut.com/p/direct-drive-exhaust-fan-heavy-duty-1-speeds-shutter-230v-ac-ODI0Mjg1



box was about 5 by 5  feet

fan is 45 inches by 45 inches


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April 01, 2019, 10:27:58 PM
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Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW.
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April 01, 2019, 10:39:49 PM
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You weren't kidding no messing around there. Between that and the size of the warehouse should be  a pretty smooth summer. Is it set to a thermostat or just running constant?

Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW.

I can't remember for sure I think I remember hearing s9's were like 200 CFM so if pushed to the max like 90 S9's.

I should probably know about the M10's, but I have been more concerned with using my heat not removing it. Summertime everything is a direct exhaust in the garage so no need for fans to be installed.


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April 01, 2019, 11:52:29 PM
Last edit: April 05, 2019, 11:54:08 PM by frodocooper
 #130

You weren't kidding no messing around there. Between that and the size of the warehouse should be  a pretty smooth summer. Is it set to a thermostat or just running constant?

It has a thermostat.  Set to 85f for now.

Do it right, do it once?

Hope so.

Looks like a beast, so that should vent 56 S9, how many M10 or better yet how many M20? The link is busted BTW.

there are

20 s9  set to medium and low speeds... about .... 22kwatts .............. to be replaced by m20's
18 l3+ watts saver software about....... about .... 12.6 kwatts
08 m10 full speed.............................. about .... 17.6 kwatts
04 S7Ln med speed .......................... about ....   2.8 kwatts ............ to be replaced by m20's
02 A721 -1 volt setting ...................... about ....   1.5 kwatts ........... to be replaced by m20's
01 A921 -1 volt setting ...................... about ....   1.9 kwatts
01 s15 high speed.............................. about ....   1.6 kwatts
01 t15 high speed............................... about ....  1.6 kwatts
01 T2turbo24 eco setting .................... about ....  1.4 kwatts

all told 565 th btc and 8.5 gh ltc say  63 kwatts

we have

1 l3+    that drops out a lot
2 s9's that drop   out a lot.

All l3+
and all s9 are older gear  so 35 of 38 working well is pretty good set of numbers

Code:
Product Specs

Type: Heavy Duty
Number of Speeds: 1
Mounting Location: Shutter
Voltage: 230V AC
Phase: Single
Electrical Connection: Wire Leads
Housing Material: Aluminum
Fan Blade Diameter: 42 in
Overall Height: 47 1⁄4 in
Overall Width: 47 1⁄4 in
Overall Length: 17 3⁄4 in
Intake Guard: Yes
Application: General Ventilation of Factories; Garages; Warehouses; Other Commercial or Industrial Buildings
Bearing Type: Ball
Blade Finish: Aluminum
Blade Material: Aluminum
Corrosion Resistant: No
Current: 5.5 A
Display Sell UOM: EA
Electric Frequency: 60 Hz
Fan Type: Axial
Features: Rugged Direct Drive; Horizontal Discharge Fan; Shutters Open Automatically When the Fan Starts Up and Close When the Fan Stops; Features a Heavy-Duty Aluminum Fan Housing and An Overload Protected Motor; Exhaust Fan; 45 in Square Nut Size
Flange: Mounting Flange
Flange Depth: 1.5 in
Flange ID: 1.5 in
Flange OD: 1.5 in
Hazardous Location Class: Non-Hazardous
Housing Finish: Aluminum
Housing Height: 47-3/4 in
Housing Length: 47 3/4 in
Housing Width: 47-3/4 in
Installation Requirements: C/W Housing; Gravity Shutter
Maximum Ambient Temperature: 104 ° F
Minimum Air Flow: 14,900 cfm
Minimum Ambient Temperature: -14 ° F
Minimum Speed: 850 RPM
Motor Frame Finish: Powder-Coated
Motor Frame Material: Heavy Duty Aluminum
Motor Output Power: 1 HP
Motor Thermal Protection: Automatic Reset
Motor Type: Split Phase
Mounting Position: Horizontal
NEMA Motor Enclosure Type: Totally Enclosed
NEMA Motor Frame Size: 48
NEMA Motor Insulation Class: Class B
Number of Blades: 3
Number of Mounting Holes: 0
Reversible: No
Rotation: CW
Sound Level: 84 dB
Spark Proof: No
Static Pressure Air Flow: 14,900 cfm @ 0.000 in SP
Supply/Exhaust: Exhaust
Washdown Duty: No
Compliance and Restrictions

Country Of Origin
Canada
About Motor Driven Exhaust Fans

With fewer moving parts than belt drive fans and a motor mounted directly on the fan shaft, direct drive fans are more efficient, compact, lighter weight, and require less maintenance than belt drive fans. Direct drive fans offer less control over blade speeds and are typically louder than belt drive fans."

Note  we paid well under the 1600 usd price

We have about 26 kwatts to be replaced by m20's

so 8 m20's  looks like the plan.

This is a small farm or a medium small at best.  
Our setup can push to 90-95 kwatts (we can do one more panel in our space)
28 m20's  that is 2.016ph  in the space we have.

When  I think of a big farm  say 1 megawatt  it would be 16x the gear.

If the m20 v1 72th work well.  

1000kwatt/3.3kwatts = 300 m20's  per megawatt of power  for a m20 v1 setup does 21.6 ph

1000kwatt/1.3kwatts = 769 s9's  per megawatt of power  for a s9 setup does 10.384 ph

We will be looking at a huge change  in mining in the next year and 2 months.

When I see scale like mine and I think of forum member fanatic_26  pushing to maybe 60 mega watts of gear I am humbled to think of running at best 30 m20 v1's when he could be doing 18000 m20 v1's.

oh here is the other photo of the fan install


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April 05, 2019, 02:44:33 PM
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I don't know if you already know about Bitcoin and its potentials oceed because this is the right time to invest in bitcoin.

Rofl.

Yeah Phil have you heard about BTC and it's potential. It's really hard to tell considering you know everything written in this thread. Had to post this.



On topic now have you had any news on the next location i think you said potential for 2 MW?


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driving up tomorrow to talk with clifton warehouse owner.  and add  3 s9's along with 4 l3+

we have been in limbo on second buildout  hope to find more news on it soon.

Got back from Clifton  that build is doing well.

video will be live at: https://youtu.be/LXTn9LUI45o

The gear is so loud my voice is drowned out. 85db+ noise level

Photos coming up soon
imgur  is also slow



even with super fan  temps inside are 92f


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How much power are you pulling now 70k?
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I estimate 68-71kwatts

620th BTC

9.8gh LTC

More photos

this rack has 5 levels

1) 4 s9, 1 m10  = 7,500watts
2) 5 s9, 1 s17, 1 L3 =   8,100watts
3) 7 m10, 1 t2turbo =  16,200watts



4) 4 s9, 1L3 =  6,000watts
5) 2 s9, 1L3,1 a921  = 5,200 watts



So this rack has more then 43000 watts.

the other racks are less.

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April 18, 2019, 12:15:34 AM
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That Row of m10's is impressive   You need to move you other m10 to it and move the T2Turbo

That way you will have a row of all eight m10's Grin
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April 18, 2019, 12:26:46 AM
Last edit: April 18, 2019, 03:35:28 AM by frodocooper
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Oh ocd right Grin

Don't worry  We will sort gear better once we put in more power panels.  The 2 panels  we are using have 18x  30 amp circuits  we need to balance loads as the panels are rated at 225 amps each  We try to do each and every circuit at 18-21 amps  so 18 x 21 = 378 amps of load  most circuits are at 18 amps  or 324 amps about 162 a panel.

So  making neat rows of all m10's is second to make  18 circuits at 18-21 amps.

Once we get 2 more panels   we will  have the luxury of shifting racks to a nice  clean order of gear.

second rack is light on gear

1) a pdu out of sight
2) 2 s9's  = 2,600 watts
3) 3 L3+  = 2,400 watts



4) 2 s7ln's.  1 s9  2,700 watts
5) 1 gpu rig 700 watts



only 8,400 watts.

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Phil  that  first rack has 43,000 watts  and 29 miners on  it  if you had 13 m20's  you could replace the whole wattage footprint as 13 x 3300 = 42,900 watts it would also hash 884 to 910 th
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April 18, 2019, 12:42:11 AM
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At yankees we could use 30 m20's for 2040 - 2100 th  pulling 99000 watts.

To do this we would need 2 more panels.

It may not cool well enough with 99000 watts of power on a hot day.

Last rack of gear

1)  2x a721's, 1  t15  = 3,000 watts
2)  5x s9's, 1 pc = 6,600 watts



3) 7 L3+  5,600 watts
4) 8 L3+  6,400 watts



21,000 watts.

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April 18, 2019, 12:51:37 AM
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Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.

Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies.

I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential.


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