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April 18, 2019, 01:29:52 AM
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Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.

Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies.

I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential.

The Clifton location is 👍 we are going to have a lot hash there.

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April 18, 2019, 01:37:59 AM
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The Clifton location is 👍 we are going to have a lot hash there.

niiiiiiceeeeee! super jealous lol.

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April 18, 2019, 01:03:53 PM
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Well nice to see things rocking at Clifton. At least you still have work there to focus on, while you wait for info on the possible new location.

Must be nice to still be able to find purpose for that older gear while you wait on more powerful stuff to show up. For Clifton are you still in the process of proving the consistent load? I'm guessing if that new place goes ahead you won't have to do the same thing as it's new build or would that still be a requirement for the subsidies.

I just drooled a little at your 2 PH potential.

Load needs proof. 3-6 months  at higher then what you really want  to have them extrapolate  a yearly  Average.

The load is not as much for  rebates and credits as it is to justify the amount of the panels.

Lets say you have 50 acres and do 250 panels of 320 watts  an acre (bigger then us by far)

that would be 50 x 250 x 320 = 4 megawatts/7 = 571,428 watts or 570 kwatts 24/7/365

This is not justified unless you are using  570 kwatts an hour.  So they would classify you as a commercial power plant = rules and regs up the butt.

Especially since NJ will now allow you to sell power to your neighbors at 8 cents  which is actually a little better then BTC pays if you mine.

The nicest thing about using mining to increase your load is you have a backup if mining fails  which is selling power to your neighbors at 8 cents.

I don't know that we will every get the big place but  the clifton spot is still pretty good.

If we get the big place  we would rotate all the lessor gear out of Clifton  and move it to the new place.

We would then  load Clifton up with the m10's and the M20's  Maybe just maybe some M21's.

I also have been talking with Steve from Avalon we may do a few A1021's

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April 19, 2019, 02:29:01 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2019, 12:27:25 AM by frodocooper
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Nice. That's a huge plus that you can sell off what you don't use. Really takes the risk out of the operation especially once it's been up and running mining for a while. Let's say hypothetically the bottom falls out of mining for  a while or gets unpredictable come the halving. You can just turn around and turn a profit as an energy producer.

Are there any stipulation on the load being permanent after the panels are installed?

Honestly Clifton is a gold mine of info for the home miners right now. The way you are filling and splitting your 30 amp circuits gives us a nice idea what gear to buy to maximize our circuits. I'm not going to benefit from that, as I forged ahead January-March to upgrade. It may help come fall though when I make heating decisions as opposed to efficiency.

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April 19, 2019, 02:43:05 PM
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Once panels are in we will need to mine with the load for 1 year.

We will be able then sell some of the power and mine .

Or stay all mining.

Once again NJ RULES not in many other states.

NJ has the air pollution issues caused by coal power plants in PA,OH,WV,IL,IN,IA

I did a screen shot on page 2:

Yeah but we get credits from NJ that help so it evens out.

All the bad air from all the coal fired power plants running from Illinois to PA is the reason NJ does this.

you can see the air pollution path below

https://i.imgur.com/M7NbsmU.png

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April 19, 2019, 03:32:47 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2019, 12:29:05 AM by frodocooper
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That's not bad only having to commit the load for 1 year. Well worth the potential risk, even if the worst were to happen the core infrastructure is there. No to mention the ability to be flexible and find a balance. I'm curious if these scenarios have been discussed with the Business/Landowner. If there is no mining are you and Buysolar out? I ask as that's the new potential risk I see of being left holding the bag on hardware.

Not a problem if you don't want to get to far into details.

I remembered the map, it reminded me of the mining town I grew up in , it's still weird to me sometimes when I don't taste a little sulfur in the air. Something good has come from it at least on the state level to help push towards renewable sources is a positive.

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April 20, 2019, 02:24:35 AM
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not to mention if mining is unprofitable you could double as a data center and rent out rack space to non mining entities.

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April 20, 2019, 03:33:38 AM
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not to mention if mining is unprofitable you could double as a data center and rent out rack space to non mining entities.

have to mention that to buysolar

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April 20, 2019, 07:27:17 AM
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have to mention that to buysolar

that is my whole intention - build a data center and rent out at least half the space to companies looking to have offsite back ups or to store their servers - that pays my bills and then use the rest of the building to mine. but I cant get a loan unless i can get the electric company to commit to the transformer and they are being bitches about it. I am sure it is normally an easy task and this delay is mostly due to my lack of experience in this type of shit.

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May 09, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
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A proper data center setup costs a lot of money plus a/c units and well it's expensive. Looked into it myself as a fail safe and if you're going to do that plan it and build it as you go as renovating for it is gutting everything.

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May 09, 2019, 12:52:34 PM
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My goal is to build mine as a data center and then also use it for housing miners - the problem is that while I have the land, I cannot get the loan to start building without agreement from the electric company to put in the power I need and the power company is being quite stubborn and does not want to agree.

I am about fed up with the headache of trying and tempted to just sell the land and then look for something ready built that I can modify. The reason I wanted to use this land is that it is adjacent to the property I live on - would be a very short drive to work Smiley

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So I have not updated in a while.

here goes some updates:

verizon supplied a router with the modem to the warehouse guy we have been using and  it sucks once you go past 50 or so miners.

Killed hours and hours on weds the 11th  after we got to 831 th and I added the last unit an a1041 avalon the entire network crashed and we could not restore it fully.

At the moment we have

modem >
shit router >
8 port switch>

3 idle ports.
4 ports to warehouse use

1 port to miners to a 48 port cisco switch

running our best miners
16 units to do 550th



we will do the following next week

modem >
run 2  new cat 6 eth cables to new router  1)active and 1) spare
quality router with 8 ports>

3 ports to 3x 48 port cisco switches  run 4 cables 3 active and a spare
4 ports to warehouse use
1 idle port.

this should give us easy redundancy .

the 3 cisco switches allow us more then we need switch wise as we will have about 26 units a switch.

plus a backup cable for router
a backup cable for switches.
and if a switch dies all of the mining gear can fit on two switches.

At the moment we are running 17 pieces of the newer gear gives us 550th
all s9's =idle
all l3+ = idle
some a721 = idle

avalon a1041's are back in my garage as they run here but  the verizon router simply crashed when ever we ran them.

to be fair the verizon router crash 20+ times from 6pm to 11pm weds night not always with avalons in play.

We added monster fans.
some filters
the room can cool  125kwatts of gear maybe more like 150kwatts  which is about 600,000 btu of heat

My home furnace is only  95,000 btu of heat.



Camera screwed up when we lost the net so I have a poor video taken before net crashed.

We we running about 110kwatts and room was under 85f   note the 3 fans they pull  9000 cfm the fan to the outside does  11,000 cfm

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Too loud to talk.  the 3 high stack of fans is  3 x 3000  cubic feet per minute  we need a safety screen put in. it is not safe as it is setup.

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July 14, 2019, 12:11:00 AM
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So that set of fans means  you have a cool space = the warehouse

and a hot space = the mining room

9000 cfm in

11000 cfm out
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July 14, 2019, 12:14:05 AM
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yeah let me see if I have a good shot of the mining room from the outside.

exhaust fan



I took a screen shot of my youtube video



screen shot is of my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXTn9LUI45o

we have sealed the room with some tarps since that  video and when we added the 3 fans.

so  it is a cool room  with filtered air which

feeds  into a Hot mining  room

we will be able to do 160 maybe 180 kwatts.

If you look at the newer video with no talking we have a 480volt panel  which can provide an additional 250-300kwatts with a transformer.

Maybe next spring.

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July 17, 2019, 02:49:20 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2019, 11:00:05 PM by frodocooper
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Your network should really look something like:

Two (or more) modems (or fiber transceiver, whatever)

Two (or more) computers (Pc Engines embedded like devices do)

Your lan...

You can start with one of each of the above, but you want two for redundancy. Openbsd can do an excellent work here, using the links as fail-over, and using the second computer as firewall fail-over itself. This is the same configuration most business lans should use.

Of course this needs some software configuring. It might be possible to do with the likes of pf(opn)sense (since that uses pf, anyway) but openbsd is lighter and in my opinion, safer.

"Modem" directly connected to switch? bad. Modem should go to pc/router/firewall. And don't blind trust Microtik, an old pc with two nics can do much better (and you use two such PCs for redundancy).

You seem to be doing some redundancy inside, but are not paying attention to the outside.

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okay

here is current plan

verizon modem

to 8 port gig wireless router   2 cables from modem to router  1 cable is a backup

8 ports leave  router

3 ports to warehouse  and needs of warehouse    assign 3 ports leave a spare port

3 eth  wires to cisco switches  48 port gig 3750   each switch will do 20-30 units for mining

1 eth wire small 5 port switch  with 2 pcs to check gear.

if this has issues  we can add a  cablevision/optimum modem so if verizon fails just switch over to cablevison.

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keep up the good work and progress Phil!

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keep up the good work and progress Phil!

We now have both verizon and optimum

4x 48 port switches

 1 on optimum  3 on verizon

and tons of spare power as we waiting for a gear deal  worth while.

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Last edit: August 30, 2019, 03:47:54 AM by frodocooper
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I hear you. The wife now wants me to give up building a larger mining building on the spare lot and to build her a house instead lol I just need to convince her I need the larger mining building so I CAN build her the house lol.

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