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I apologize for my bad english
Why hide Satoshi, see how Buterin climbs out of the skin for the sake of hype dancing at all events, and this is when the cryptocurrency hype has already gone, and Satoshi was quietly initially when he was not needed by anyone with his technology, and all the more so because the goal is declared noble as it is very strange and atypical if dark goals are not pursued, let's think about what they can be:
1) Satoshi initially owns an incredibly huge amount of bitcoins so he has no reason to shine himself, although this option is most likely wrong because initially it was unlikely that he could know for sure that his bitcoin would unwind, so I guess the second option is likely.
2) Someone could have developed this technology for the initial purpose of a scam; therefore, it became widely known because if some programmer alone did everything without serious support, then this technology would still not be known to almost anyone, and here suddenly made and immediately went to spread, it is likely that very large campaigns or individuals were initially invested in the development with the aim of further profit.
3) Satoshi is a “man in uniform” and the technology was developed by a “Big Brother” to bring to light of God’s payments between criminal elements by first forcing them to believe in the ideas of “anonymity” and “decentralization”, and in fact, they need to see that where and when paid and no "bank secrecy" is now a hindrance. Possible backdoors of this technology are incomprehensible, it is quite possible that there are hidden software features to reset the wallet and this information is quite calmly spread almost instantly to all computers, no one picks up and the meaning of decentralization in this case is zero since criminal changes occur in the archives on all computers follower.
4) The goal may seem the most delusional, alarmist. Cryptocurrencies are developed and introduced again with the support of “Big Brother” with the aim of replacing the main world currency in discrediting it, namely the very hyperinflation of the dollar (I do not believe in it), that is, when the national currency falls people goes to Bitcoin since Bitcoin in the heads of ordinary people are untied from the state, and the country's economy is not bled from the hyperlittering dollar.
This is how I see the possible reasons why Satoshi very carefully preserves his anonymity for a large number of years, if he were a simple person with good intentions, then sooner or later his mood would change like all people and he would come to light, but this is why it didn’t happen in ten years, so I’m most inclined to think that Mr. Satoshi with his Bitcoin is a Big Brother creation. "
Let's think together why Satoshi so zealously guards his anonymity for a large number of years.
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It is simple and clear, our government do not associate nor support anything that benefits the masses so they'd definitely go after satoshi so I think that's the more reason for the anonymity
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January 19, 2019, 02:36:49 AM Last edit: January 19, 2019, 02:55:20 AM by pooya87 |
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you shouldn't compare Satoshi with people such as Buterin because while Satoshi created bitcoin to change the world, they created their altcoins to make money (change their own life by getting rich). that is why they keep advertising their coin. Let's think together why Satoshi so zealously guards his anonymity for a large number of years.
are YOU a zealot? or maybe a scammer? because that is my conclusion of your post, anybody who is not revealing his or her identity must have an evil intention and you didn't reveal your identity here either! to answer your question about why Satoshi has never revealed his identity, it is because it wouldn't make a difference. why would you want to know it anyways? why do you care? bitcoin is a decentralized system that doesn't have an "owner" unlike all these centralized shitcoins. knowing who Satoshi is, can lead to that mentality of centralizing it to one person and looking up to him for every decision.
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January 19, 2019, 02:48:50 AM |
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He had the option of staying anonymous and used it, and it turned out to be great. That's what we should do when it's possible and the opposite has no pros good enough to overweigh the cons.
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This is just another conspiracy theory. We have heard similar stories before, but up to this day no one has come forward with their proofs that bitcoin is a creation of "Big Brother" or some higher authorities. Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3, read his post and appreciate it instead of coming up with this non-sense conspiracy.
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January 19, 2019, 03:21:45 AM |
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I'm just trying to get to the truth. I never believe in the altruism of people when it comes to big money.
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are YOU a zealot? or maybe a scammer? because that is my conclusion of your post, anybody who is not revealing his or her identity must have an evil intention and you didn't reveal your identity here either!
If I created something good, then of course I would not be silent about it, but I would like to get a bit of fame.
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January 19, 2019, 07:32:03 PM |
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Staying anonymous and walking away is the second best thing he could possibly have done after creating it.
It doesn't matter if Big Brother created it. Big Brother has zero control over it. It's in the hands of its users.
And no one should give a shit what you think about it.
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January 19, 2019, 07:40:23 PM |
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I'm from the camp that believes "Satoshi" is a pseudonym for the group that created Bitcoin.
I also believe that the "Satoshi" wallet is locked forever... Otherwise, something would have been moved over the years. Honestly, those funds could have been used to further the project, or marketing, or giveaways, or anything... But instead it's being used for nothing.
With that said, I think the initial group made the decision to launch Bitcoin under an anonymous name due to the possibility of legal backlash coming from a number of countries...
Think about it - would you want to be the face on the New currency looking to disrupt a 100trillion global market? I'm sure there are plenty of bankers out there willing to crowdfund a hitman to "Take care" of this New technology.
But, being that it's anonymous. What is anybody going to do? Governments can do anything.
Instead, I would assume the initial group who created bitcoin were also the first users to mine it. Anyone who mined that first year would have thousands of Bitcoins...
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There's a chance Satoshi could be dead. There were hurricanes and tsunamis in Asia in the year when he disappeared and many people disappeared and their bodies were never found. Even if he is alive and hiding it's good for him. He could become a target of extortions and blackmails if he suddenly came out and proved to be the founder.
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Bitcoin=Globalization The “big brother” is committed to globalization, the single world currency bitcoin is a big step in this direction, "Big brother" always has access to the database, which stores all transactions that have ever occurred, and all the data of all ever-existing wallets, absolutely nothing to hide, think about it. And just think about the fact that now the number of miners has started to decline very much and that moment when a government of a very powerful country will be able to do 50 percent of the computing power in its hands and then write everything is gone, this state will control absolutely all cryptocurrency , and you will not even know about it. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_powerand it is possible that it was originally supposed that when the last bitcoin miners were extracted the miners would disappear and it would be possible for the government to create a computer center that would provide 50 percent of the computing power, this is a simple and ingenious solution. The fact that there is a final date of production of the last Bitcoin initially assumes that all the miners will leave and some other structure will take their place, it is quite possible that this will be a single state structure.
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And just think about the fact that now the number of miners has started to decline very much and that moment when a government of a very powerful country will be able to do 50 percent of the computing power in its hands and then write everything is gone, this state will control absolutely all cryptocurrency , and you will not even know about it.
The solution is simple: change of algorithm. and it is possible that it was originally supposed that when the last bitcoin miners were extracted the miners would disappear and it would be possible for the government to create a computer center that would provide 50 percent of the computing power, this is a simple and ingenious solution. The fact that there is a final date of production of the last Bitcoin initially assumes that all the miners will leave and some other structure will take their place, it is quite possible that this will be a single state structure.
Miners won't disappear, they'll get transaction fees. I don't know how much you understand Bitcoin but at this moment, a single state structure already exists. It's called fiat.
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As one of the user stated whether it is created by big brother, or a team of people and being anonymous doesn't disturb the community. Also being anonymous and control in the hands of the common people is the key factor for its succes. Apart from this, when there is money flow, it won't get terminated in the short or long term. A sustained growth will continue to take place. With bitcoin the growth is taking place in large scale with mass adoption of bitcoin realizing the true need of cryptocurrency as well the effective functioning of the blockchain technology which is a marvel to the world.
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I don't know how much you understand Bitcoin but at this moment, a single state structure already exists. It's called fiat.
But if hyperinflation of the dollar happens with a loss of confidence in it, then Bitcoin can replace the dollar (fiat) at the request of the government, as I wrote in the fourth paragraph 4) The goal may seem the most delusional, alarmist. Cryptocurrencies are developed and introduced again with the support of “Big Brother” with the aim of replacing the main world currency in discrediting it, namely the very hyperinflation of the dollar (I do not believe in it), that is, when the national currency falls people goes to Bitcoin since Bitcoin in the heads of ordinary people are untied from the state, and the country's economy is not bled from the hyperlittering dollar.
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You don't need to create a some big grand conspiracy around satoshi's anonymity.
Bitcoin in it's nature goes against the status quo at it's highest expression: money and control of such. It was rather obvious that TPTB would go against the creator. Look at all the previous attempts at stateless money = they all got shut down because they weren't decentralized networks. In sum, if satoshi was smart enough to create Bitcoin, he was smart enough to understand the fact that he must not reveal himself ever.
This doesn't invalidate TPTB theory tho, it could be that "satoshi" is some kind of very influential group that for some reason released Bitcoin, however it cannot be any state, since Bitcoin gives access to stateless money, the question is: who would be interested in trojan-horsing all existing states?
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I think you are trying too hard to come up with a theory mainly because you are overthinking it since you have a hard time believing that someone may exist in the world who isn't creating a "currency" to become famous or become rich. possibly you have been comparing bitcoin too much with altcoins (hence the comparison of Satoshi with Vitalik in your first statement). but you have to realize that Satoshi didn't have the same motivations as the nowadays' altcoin developers. he created bitcoin mainly to change the world. not for fame, and not for riches.
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This is no big secret. Gavin was working with Satoshi at the time and then Gavin visited a government agency and reported this to Satoshi and he freaked out, because it is illegal for someone to create their own private currency. Satoshi might even have thought that Gavin was an agent for the government, so he just quickly exited the scene, before he got caught. Satoshi's technology was going against big corporations like Banks that are working with governments, so he got spooked.
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I think the fact that Satoshi remained anonymous throughout the process of creating Bitcoin and then vanishing shortly after has been one of the best things that happened to Bitcoin. Cryptocurrency is all about decentralization, having a face associated with the coin, being on TV , holding talks and advertising Bitcoin like we saw being done with other coins, just makes it seem more like someone running a business and not the "People's coin" that lured so many of us in at the beginning. It may be true that Satoshi stayed anonymous because of him being a target for some government agencies, or any other theories you guys have mentioned, but I am personally not very interested in why he did it, I am just glad he did.
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I have the theory that because bitcoin was designed to be decentralized and unregulated, the presence of the creator(s) would mean they would exert a certain degree of sway over investors, and would have to choose to discuss the reality or what everyone wants to hear. Satoshi distancing himself from the technology allows it to be fully in the control of the community.
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Well I don't like the negativity of this thread, I think we should be grateful that Satoshi created this currency to make us free from the government grasp, bitcoin was created to eliminate third party so we can have faster and more convenient transaction, I don't see bitcoin as the scam product, it's the people that used bitcoin for criminal things, bitcoin is just a medium and never intended to be created to do bad things
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