What are the features you want most in a sportsbook?

[arco-yabamba]

Some casinos (at least some local ones) don't let's you to take different odds from one game. For example I mean let's take FC Barcelona - Arsenal <---- Bet on 1, number of goals over 2.5, number of corners over 9.5, number of cards, all of these from one game.
Also cashout will be great, function of editing bets before game starts (to add or remove game). Also promotions like 100% cashback if 1 bet loses from 5 one, 150% cashback if one loses from 6 and something similar.

In fiat betting, you can never make parlay (multiples) bets on markets in the same match, like your example.
This is due to what is called "related contingencies" - which means that the odds on the second (third. fourth, fifth) bet in your parlay would have been different if you would have known the result of the first bet.
So I don't think it is reasonable to expect this functionality in BTC sportsbooks.... do you know if it is offered anywhere? I would be surprised.
(*UNLESS* the sportsbook modifies the odds of same-match bets put in a parlay... but that would be very complicated.. and not a lot of demand for it..?)

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[Supercrypt]

Some casinos (at least some local ones) don't let's you to take different odds from one game. For example I mean let's take FC Barcelona - Arsenal <---- Bet on 1, number of goals over 2.5, number of corners over 9.5, number of cards, all of these from one game.
Also cashout will be great, function of editing bets before game starts (to add or remove game). Also promotions like 100% cashback if 1 bet loses from 5 one, 150% cashback if one loses from 6 and something similar.

In fiat betting, you can never make parlay (multiples) bets on markets in the same match, like your example.
This is due to what is called "related contingencies" - which means that the odds on the second (third. fourth, fifth) bet in your parlay would have been different if you would have known the result of the first bet.
So I don't think it is reasonable to expect this functionality in BTC sportsbooks.... do you know if it is offered anywhere? I would be surprised.
(*UNLESS* the sportsbook modifies the odds of same-match bets put in a parlay... but that would be very complicated.. and not a lot of demand for it..?)

Even in parlay games they usually do not allow you to bet on the same game. For example, you can play on 3 different matches and parlay them together and have 1 bet on all three and that is parlay for you, that you can do everywhere. However, if you wanted to do parlay with one game but different 3 bets they do not allow you to do that. That is like that in almost all sportsbooks all around the world. That is a big miss but also that is a way of sportbook keeping itself safe.

When Barcelona plays with a team that they are bound to win it is usually easy to predict that Barcelona will win, Barcelona will score a lot, Barcelona will do bla bla bla and so forth, which means if they allow you just one bet like Barcelona will win they are giving you basically free money most of the time but if they allow you to bet on other stuff as well that "free money" is getting really high.

[DarkStar_]

Some casinos (at least some local ones) don't let's you to take different odds from one game. For example I mean let's take FC Barcelona - Arsenal <---- Bet on 1, number of goals over 2.5, number of corners over 9.5, number of cards, all of these from one game.
Also cashout will be great, function of editing bets before game starts (to add or remove game). Also promotions like 100% cashback if 1 bet loses from 5 one, 150% cashback if one loses from 6 and something similar.

In fiat betting, you can never make parlay (multiples) bets on markets in the same match, like your example.
This is due to what is called "related contingencies" - which means that the odds on the second (third. fourth, fifth) bet in your parlay would have been different if you would have known the result of the first bet.
So I don't think it is reasonable to expect this functionality in BTC sportsbooks.... do you know if it is offered anywhere? I would be surprised.
(*UNLESS* the sportsbook modifies the odds of same-match bets put in a parlay... but that would be very complicated.. and not a lot of demand for it..?)

There are specific markets that exist for some of those options. Here's an example of some of them on Betcoin for the Man U - Arsenal match later today

[jademaxsuy]

This is base on information I get in most problems bitcoin enthusiast face that they want to experience fast withdrawal and in poll voting which is only one choice to be picked but all choices can benefit the new system and the site will get a good feedback. This is my suggestion and opinion so all choice are great to implement to betters and some not  with the implementation. Go for all i think it might come in handy.

[arco-yabamba]

Some casinos (at least some local ones) don't let's you to take different odds from one game. For example I mean let's take FC Barcelona - Arsenal <---- Bet on 1, number of goals over 2.5, number of corners over 9.5, number of cards, all of these from one game.
Also cashout will be great, function of editing bets before game starts (to add or remove game). Also promotions like 100% cashback if 1 bet loses from 5 one, 150% cashback if one loses from 6 and something similar.

In fiat betting, you can never make parlay (multiples) bets on markets in the same match, like your example.
This is due to what is called "related contingencies" - which means that the odds on the second (third. fourth, fifth) bet in your parlay would have been different if you would have known the result of the first bet.
So I don't think it is reasonable to expect this functionality in BTC sportsbooks.... do you know if it is offered anywhere? I would be surprised.
(*UNLESS* the sportsbook modifies the odds of same-match bets put in a parlay... but that would be very complicated.. and not a lot of demand for it..?)

There are specific markets that exist for some of those options. Here's an example of some of them on Betcoin for the Man U - Arsenal match later today

Sorry, didn't see that until now - I assume that the markets you link to were "specials", i.e. created by the bookmaker, like the classic "First GoalScorer-CorrectScore" bets with insanely bad odds? Or did the link allow user-defined single Event parlay opportunities?

[arco-yabamba]

ah, it's a screenshot! lol
OK, i see that these are not user-defined parlays - they are sportsbook-defined parlays, and therefore pretty juiced, just like the classic CorrectScore-FirstGoalScorer bets. But thanks for the link. I wonder how much action sportsbooks see on these kinds of bets...?

[arco-yabamba]

Some casinos (at least some local ones) don't let's you to take different odds from one game. For example I mean let's take FC Barcelona - Arsenal <---- Bet on 1, number of goals over 2.5, number of corners over 9.5, number of cards, all of these from one game.
Also cashout will be great, function of editing bets before game starts (to add or remove game). Also promotions like 100% cashback if 1 bet loses from 5 one, 150% cashback if one loses from 6 and something similar.

In fiat betting, you can never make parlay (multiples) bets on markets in the same match, like your example.
This is due to what is called "related contingencies" - which means that the odds on the second (third. fourth, fifth) bet in your parlay would have been different if you would have known the result of the first bet.
So I don't think it is reasonable to expect this functionality in BTC sportsbooks.... do you know if it is offered anywhere? I would be surprised.
(*UNLESS* the sportsbook modifies the odds of same-match bets put in a parlay... but that would be very complicated.. and not a lot of demand for it..?)

Even in parlay games they usually do not allow you to bet on the same game. For example, you can play on 3 different matches and parlay them together and have 1 bet on all three and that is parlay for you, that you can do everywhere. However, if you wanted to do parlay with one game but different 3 bets they do not allow you to do that. That is like that in almost all sportsbooks all around the world. That is a big miss but also that is a way of sportbook keeping itself safe.

Exactly.

[bitcoin31]

Maybe all of the above is good features.

[veleten]

as a bettor I can tell you that the most important thing in a bookie is odds and bets selection
a bookie  can be as trusted as my grandmother during a bingo section
but if they have bad odds or their bets slips are lacking the games I want, the choice is obvious
trust and age of operation is another important thing:I do not risk big amounts at some new sportsbooks
no KYC and instant withdrawals is a must, bitcoin sportsbooks are the obvious choice here

[DarkStar_]

Some casinos (at least some local ones) don't let's you to take different odds from one game. For example I mean let's take FC Barcelona - Arsenal <---- Bet on 1, number of goals over 2.5, number of corners over 9.5, number of cards, all of these from one game.
Also cashout will be great, function of editing bets before game starts (to add or remove game). Also promotions like 100% cashback if 1 bet loses from 5 one, 150% cashback if one loses from 6 and something similar.

In fiat betting, you can never make parlay (multiples) bets on markets in the same match, like your example.
This is due to what is called "related contingencies" - which means that the odds on the second (third. fourth, fifth) bet in your parlay would have been different if you would have known the result of the first bet.
So I don't think it is reasonable to expect this functionality in BTC sportsbooks.... do you know if it is offered anywhere? I would be surprised.
(*UNLESS* the sportsbook modifies the odds of same-match bets put in a parlay... but that would be very complicated.. and not a lot of demand for it..?)

There are specific markets that exist for some of those options. Here's an example of some of them on Betcoin for the Man U - Arsenal match later today

Sorry, didn't see that until now - I assume that the markets you link to were "specials", i.e. created by the bookmaker, like the classic "First GoalScorer-CorrectScore" bets with insanely bad odds? Or did the link allow user-defined single Event parlay opportunities?

You are correct, only combinations created by the bookmaker exist on that site. AFAIK the only Bitcoin sportsbook that let you combine options from the same event was BetKing, but they unfortunately shut down their sportsbook. It was extremely limited though IIRC in terms of the outcomes you could parlay together.

[arco-yabamba]

Interesting. I'm surprised that anyone tried it at all. The maths are not on the bookmaker's side...

[DarkStar_]

Interesting. I'm surprised that anyone tried it at all. The maths are not on the bookmaker's side...

The groups were setup like this:

Group 1

• Match Winner
• Goals (total, first, last, etc)
• Handicaps
• BTTS

Group 2

• Corners (first corner, last corner, corners handicap, total, etc)

Group 3

• Cards (number of cards, team with most cards, etc)

There's not much opportunity to get a lot of value. You can have a lot of corners without goals, a team could get more corners but lose, etc.

[arco-yabamba]

Interesting. I'm surprised that anyone tried it at all. The maths are not on the bookmaker's side...

The groups were setup like this:

Group 1

• Match Winner
• Goals (total, first, last, etc)
• Handicaps
• BTTS

Group 2

• Corners (first corner, last corner, corners handicap, total, etc)

Group 3

• Cards (number of cards, team with most cards, etc)

There's not much opportunity to get a lot of value. You can have a lot of corners without goals, a team could get more corners but lose, etc.

You *had* to choose one from each group (and no more than one)? So, had to be a treble/trixie/patent etc?
And were the odds available the same as being offered as for singles? (I assume so)

[DarkStar_]

Interesting. I'm surprised that anyone tried it at all. The maths are not on the bookmaker's side...

The groups were setup like this:

Group 1

• Match Winner
• Goals (total, first, last, etc)
• Handicaps
• BTTS

Group 2

• Corners (first corner, last corner, corners handicap, total, etc)

Group 3

• Cards (number of cards, team with most cards, etc)

There's not much opportunity to get a lot of value. You can have a lot of corners without goals, a team could get more corners but lose, etc.

You *had* to choose one from each group (and no more than one)? So, had to be a treble/trixie/patent etc?
And were the odds available the same as being offered as for singles? (I assume so)

You can combine across groups, but you can't combine two outcomes from the same group into a parlay. You could play a 2 leg parlay if you wanted. I never took a very close look at it, but I believe the odds were the same.

So I could combine Man U win and Man U over 6.5 corners, but I can't combine Man U win and Man U Over 0.5 Goals.

If you want to play around with it, VBet runs the same software BetKing did. (though they don't accept BTC)

[arco-yabamba]

Thanks, I will take a look.

[Supercrypt]

This is base on information I get in most problems bitcoin enthusiast face that they want to experience fast withdrawal and in poll voting which is only one choice to be picked but all choices can benefit the new system and the site will get a good feedback. This is my suggestion and opinion so all choice are great to implement to betters and some not  with the implementation. Go for all i think it might come in handy.

The only reason why instant withdrawals are not leading in the poll is that even if a website is offering a fast withdrawal if its a new one that we do not know about or heard before then we do not really want to play there, I would rather play in a place like nitrogensports and trust them with my coins and wait for the withdrawals then go into a new website and play there trying to make sure I will not be scammed and not get my money if it means there is a small chance of me getting my coins withdrawn faster.

Hence, the trust and age is more important than the instant withdrawal but when you go beyond that trust issue then the instant withdraw is the biggest help, after that odds are really important and after that more coin options. It has been like that for a while.

[game-protect]

The feature I want most is to play with consumer protection service inclusive.

Most victims prefer to ask gamblers or go to the bakery after being scammed, but if they play with consumer protection service inclusive, legal experts and lawyers would try to enforce what is owed and with an unlike higher rate of success.

[acarli]

Thank you, guys. I appreciate your feedback . We have a lot of take-aways from this post. We are in it for the long term, so are eager to make these changes. We are actively looking for solutions to our sportsbook. The two biggest ones being our UI and odds.

You guys are awesome.

[Caladonian]

Thank you, guys. I appreciate your feedback . We have a lot of take-aways from this post. We are in it for the long term, so are eager to make these changes. We are actively looking for solutions to our sportsbook. The two biggest ones being our UI and odds.

You guys are awesome.

Good for you, listening to your possible audience and adjust will bring more people to your site, we knew that UI and odds are the first thing to attract gamblers, when they seen something nice while visiting your sports house they will begin to look around and if odds is really competitive or much better
than other houses, surely it will be a good reason for them to stay and keep coming back.

May that improvement will be reason for your success from this business. Good luck

[bitgolden]

What all of us missed out is the "history" option.
In many of the regular sportsbooks they have that feature but unfortunately in crypto world we do not have that option for now.

If I am going to bet on a match than I would like to see how the teams have been, I want to see their positions in their leagues, I want to see their last 5-10 games, I wanna see if there is any injury and stuff like that, like get information on the teams.

The real life sportsbooks in my country that is basically backed by the government gives people this information but unfortunately crypto sportsbooks do not have that option, or as far as I know they do not, maybe they do but I haven't seen it yet. If a casino adds that option as well and promotes it I am sure they will get many customers from others.