Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American

[coins4commies]

Tell me, when was the last time you saw mobs of conservatives sending people to hospitals, going to the homes of media pundits, or just randomly harassing and attacking people physically? Oh never? Yet if I put "ANTIFA attack" into youtube HUNDREDS of examples of political violence against conservatives and just generally uninvolved people pop up.

The state, by default carries out violence on behalf of conservatives.  The status quo is conservative by nature.  This is why calls for "civility" and "tame protest" are being accurately categorized as fascist.  Conservative activists never had to put people in gas chambers and today, they don't have to squash riots in Missouri, or separate families at the border.  The police, founded in this country as slave patrol, are still harassing and physically attacking people of color on video out in the open.  ANTIFA are literally the only thing holding back full blown nazism.  All of the so called free speech advocates working to give neonazis a voice are complicit in the violence they dream of carrying out.

The fact that this is even in your top 100 list of bad things happening to kids suggests that you empathize more deeply with white children and disregard the innocence of other children.  You will deny it but we post about the things we subconsciously care more about and your post record is telling.  All I can remember is how you blew off the deaths of migrant children at the hands of CBP.  

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Tell me, when was the last time you saw mobs of conservatives sending people to hospitals, going to the homes of media pundits, or just randomly harassing and attacking people physically? Oh never? Yet if I put "ANTIFA attack" into youtube HUNDREDS of examples of political violence against conservatives and just generally uninvolved people pop up.

The state, by default carries out violence on behalf of conservatives.  The status quo is conservative by nature.  This is why calls for "civility" and "tame protest" are being accurately categorized as fascist.  Conservative activists never had to put people in gas chambers and today, they don't have to squash riots in Missouri, or separate families at the border.  The police, founded in this country as slave patrol, are still harassing and physically attacking people of color on video out in the open.  ANTIFA are literally the only thing holding back full blown nazism.  All of the so called free speech advocates working to give neonazis a voice are complicit in the violence they dream of carrying out.

The fact that this is even in your top 100 list of bad things happening to kids suggests that you empathize more deeply with white children and disregard the innocence of other children.  You will deny it but we post about the things we subconsciously care more about and your post record is telling.  All I can remember is how you blew off the deaths of migrant children at the hands of CBP.  

Oooh I see, so the conservatives are responsible for all deeds of state now.

"The status quo is conservative by nature", ok let's ignore the horrible fucking syntax here and assume you are trying to say Conservatives are inherently pro-status quo. This is nothing more than an assumption on your part. Also setting fire to a building is changing the status quo. Just because you are changing the status quo does not make it a good change automatically. Your argument is invalid, even IF you could prove it, which you can't.

"This is why calls for "civility" and "tame protest" are being accurately categorized as fascist. "

What... the fuck are you even... is this the kind of shit leftists tell each other behind closed doors to rationalize violence?


"Conservative activists never had to put people in gas chambers and today, they don't have to squash riots in Missouri, or separate families at the border."

Again, you are drifting way off into lefty lala land giving zero substantiation for your quite extreme and irrational statements. So riots should be allowed, and riots only happen justly? What? Children are separated from adults at the border TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING RAPED by adult migrants. Not that you give a good god damned about any of them. Also what does any of this have to do with the topic? Oh right nothing, this is just yet another desperate attempt to slide the topic off into another direction by embarrassed lefties.

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization, and if anyone doubts me look up the definition of terrorism, then go on Youtube and put in the search phrase "ANTIFA attacks" and see for yourself. This is the kind of lunacy the left uses to justify their mobbing and violence against anyone who dares question them. They sell each other the delusion that they are fighting nazis, so if they imagine REAL HARD that its true, it is ok to use violence to achieve your political goals according to them.

For the third time also, this event itself was meaningless. What offends people and was actually dangerous was how the media lied about it and promoted mob activity against these children. The left frothing at the mouth and insane as ever gleefully lit their torches and started attacking and threatening these kids and no one would correct the story or take ANY accountability whatsoever. In fact when confronted with the truth they made up MORE LIES about these kids to cover up for their own frothing lunacy and baseless attacks.

This is more important because the mob of angry idiots that calls itself the left are creating the conditions for a violent civil war, and they are completely unaware of it or the consequences of this. You are playing revolutionary, you aren't revolutionary. Get violent and watch all of your hipster lefty friends get fucked into the dirt and be too scared to ever show their faces in public again. You retards have been warned, people aren't going to tolerate this violence against them forever.

[mayo2u]

What? First of all - define conservatives.

Oh. I see your point. If the purpose of the state is to uphold the social contract - namely "I promise not to kill you and take your stuff if you promise not to kill me and take mine." then of course the state is there to protect and defend conservatives as opposed to everyone else.

So you want a revolution to bring about your expected nirvana.

Sorry Charlie. That ain't gonna fly.

[coins4commies]

So riots should be allowed, and riots only happen justly? What? Children are separated from adults at the border TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING RAPED by adult migrants. Not that you give a good god damned about any of them. Also what does any of this have to do with the topic? Oh right nothing, this is just yet another desperate attempt to slide the topic off into another direction by embarrassed lefties.

Other than the sports riots, riots typically only happen because of genuine anger.  I can't think of a riot where the people were just pretending to be angry.  Maybe you can find one, because thats what you do and it would be the exception to the majority.

Also, we wouldn't need to worry about them being raped if you didn't incarcerate them in the first place.  The notion was not "separation vs consolidated detention" but "separation vs open borders".

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization, and if anyone doubts me look up the definition of terrorism, then go on Youtube and put in the search phrase "ANTIFA attacks" and see for yourself. This is the kind of lunacy the left uses to justify their mobbing and violence against anyone who dares question them. They sell each other the delusion that they are fighting nazis, so if they imagine REAL HARD that its true, it is ok to use violence to achieve your political goals according to them.

Antifa is not a terrorist organization because it is not an organization at all.  The name means they are fighting fascists so thats what it should be but just like with anything, just because the history and name says one thing, doesn't mean every independent group would act consistently.  Priests raping children does not mean Christianity is about raping children.

"Antifa" is an umbrella term for a loose collection of groups, networks and individuals.[13] Since it is composed of autonomous groups, and thus has no formal organization or membership,[24][38] it is impossible to know how many groups are active. Antifa groups either form loose support networks, such as NYC Antifa, or operate independently.[39] Activists typically organize protests via social media and through websites and email lists.[24][38] Some activists have built peer-to-peer networks, or use encrypted-texting services like Signal.[40] According to Salon, it is an organizing strategy, not a group of people.[41] While its numbers cannot be estimated accurately, the movement has grown since the 2016 presidential election and approximately 200 groups currently exist in the US, of varying sizes and levels of engagement.[27] The activists involved subscribe to a range of ideologies, typically on the left and they include anarchists, socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats.

What? First of all - define conservatives.

People who want to keep things as they are, as they have been in the past, and generally, as they have always been.

[TECSHARE]

So as we can see the posters here who disagree are having a hard time making any arguments related to the medias lies regarding the Covington students in DC. Due to the fact they have no excuse for their violent mobbing behavior the left has managed to demonstrate itself as consisting of mobs of unhinged people willing to silence, harass, threaten, and violently attack people in order to punish those with whom they disagree. In the case of the forum distraction and selective enforcement of rules seems to be the predominant tactic since none of them can present a valid argument in defense of these actions.

[TECSHARE]

Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.

[Spendulus]

I am sure a lot of you like me tried really hard to ignore this situation as it was clearly a non-story, but the way the MSM has been covering it, the fact that it is a non-story has itself become a story.

This event was very telling of how willing the media is to lie and scream racism at the expense of causing children and their families to be mobbed, threatened, and harassed based on no evidence and how the irrational psychotic hatred manifests from the left for anyone they see simply supporting Trump.

In their mind the only way you could ever support him is if you are an active card carrying member of the KKK with a full swastika tattoo on your chest, therefore violence is justified. After all he is Hitler, and his followers are Nazis, so it is only just to stop them with violence isn't it? This event just showed how eager the left is to kill when the media tells them to. This is symptomatic of a very dangerous and serious trend not just in the US, but world wide.

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The historical antecedent for this type of behavior was a pre-WW2 phenomena in Germany today called "brownshirts." The tactics and methods of the brownshirts pre-WW2 are EXACTLY what is being promulgated today. The MSM's Covington warping-of-the-story to meet the predetermined objectives is an excellent example, but only one of many.

For those who have not heard the term "brownshirt", here is Wikipedia's summary. Bolding is mine.

The Sturmabteilung....literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's original paramilitary. It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Its primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Romanis, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews – for instance, during the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses.

The SA were also called the "Brownshirts" (Braunhemden) from the color of their uniform shirts, similar to Benito Mussolini's blackshirts. The SA developed pseudo-military titles for its members, with ranks that were later adopted by several other Nazi Party groups, chief amongst them the Schutzstaffel (SS), which originated as a branch of the SA before being separated. Brown-colored shirts were chosen as the SA uniform because a large number of them were cheaply available after World War I.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

[coins4commies]

Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.

I don't blame the kids, I blame the adults in charge of them.  The school and the parents are guilty of using children as pawns in a war for women's rights; the nastiest, most emotionally charged social war in this country right now.  Its no place for children.  Surely,  you understand that the MAGA hat in itself is a provocative political statement?  

Yes, everyone including children have a right to be politically active, but this isn't that.  I'm quite familiar with Catholic schools and the way these trips work and know enough to say that the adults in the community are absolute cowards for sending uninformed children into this fight.  

It would be different if the students came to these conclusions on their own but they didn't, they were indoctrinated and weaponized before they were old enough to understand.  They are political child soldiers.

[TECSHARE]

Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.

I don't blame the kids, I blame the adults in charge of them.  The school and the parents are guilty of using children as pawns in a war for women's rights; the nastiest, most emotionally charged social war in this country right now.  Its no place for children.  Surely,  you understand that the MAGA hat in itself is a provocative political statement?  

Yes, everyone including children have a right to be politically active, but this isn't that.  I'm quite familiar with Catholic schools and the way these trips work and know enough to say that the adults in the community are absolute cowards for sending uninformed children into this fight.  

It would be different if the students came to these conclusions on their own but they didn't, they were indoctrinated and weaponized before they were old enough to understand.  They are political child soldiers.

So who is being nasty and emotionally charged? Interesting you blame them for some how evoking that by their mere presence, but the people actually acting out the nasty and emotionally charged part are some how not at fault, but the boys are for "reasons". Essentially now your argument is if you are under 18 you have no right to have an opinion and express it in public?

Who says they were used, you? Just because they support a cause you don't agree with they are automatically guilty and deserve everything that happened right? Wearing a MAGA hat is only provocative to lunatics that can't handle people who have differing opinions than them, and then attempt to attack or shame them into compliance like the street thug brown shirts you are.

You make lots of assumptions about these kids, their beliefs, how they came to them, their parents, but not once do you address the racial slurs hurled at them, the attempts at intimidating them, the threats of violence, or the media lies to cover it up. It is almost like the left never takes any responsibility for its actions instead opting to instead continue to threaten children with violence rather than admit they were lied to and they made a mistake.

This whole event was a textbook example of the "cry bully" tactics of the left, and the media literally willing to put children at risk of violence just to get some more views and support their own political bias. You keep pretending like these kids did anything wrong. Keep exposing yourselves for the unhinged lunatics indiscriminately lashing out desperately seeking any vessel for your hatred while you simultaneously project that image onto your opponent to absolve yourself of any guilt over it.

[Spendulus]

Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.

I don't blame the kids, I blame the adults in charge of them.  The school and the parents are guilty of using children as pawns in a war for women's rights; the nastiest, most emotionally charged social war in this country right now.  Its no place for children.  Surely,  you understand that the MAGA hat in itself is a provocative political statement?  

Yes, everyone including children have a right to be politically active, but this isn't that.  I'm quite familiar with Catholic schools and the way these trips work and know enough to say that the adults in the community are absolute cowards for sending uninformed children into this fight.  

It would be different if the students came to these conclusions on their own but they didn't, they were indoctrinated and weaponized before they were old enough to understand.  They are political child soldiers.

The MAGA hat isn't a "provocative political statement." It's a hat that was a trademark of the MAJORITY VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION. The reaction to it was provocation, direct and simple.

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The MAGA hat isn't a "provocative political statement." It's a hat that was a trademark of the MAJORITY VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION. The reaction to it was provocation, direct and simple.

I think more importantly this demonstrates the "logic" of the left.

- You make a legal statement I don't like.

- I can not control myself as a result. You are at fault for me not being able to control myself.

- End the ability to have free speech because I might not be able to control myself.

- If you do not comply to my demands I will be able to control myself even less and will become violent.

- When it comes time for accountability for my actions I will be absolved because you provoked me by having opinions I can not resist reacting with violence to

- this is all your fault

- I don't like when you point out the contradictions in my reasoning

- repeat step 1

[nutildah]

The MAGA hat isn't a "provocative political statement." It's a hat that was a trademark of the MAJORITY VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION.

Actually Trump won the presidency with a minority of the vote, not majority. Far more people voted for Hillary than Trump. 2.87 million as a matter of fact.

[TECSHARE]

I anyone else seeing a theme of people who disagree changing the subject to other peripheral issues? I wonder why...

[coins4commies]

Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.

I don't blame the kids, I blame the adults in charge of them.  The school and the parents are guilty of using children as pawns in a war for women's rights; the nastiest, most emotionally charged social war in this country right now.  Its no place for children.  Surely,  you understand that the MAGA hat in itself is a provocative political statement?  

Yes, everyone including children have a right to be politically active, but this isn't that.  I'm quite familiar with Catholic schools and the way these trips work and know enough to say that the adults in the community are absolute cowards for sending uninformed children into this fight.  

It would be different if the students came to these conclusions on their own but they didn't, they were indoctrinated and weaponized before they were old enough to understand.  They are political child soldiers.

So who is being nasty and emotionally charged? Interesting you blame them for some how evoking that by their mere presence, but the people actually acting out the nasty and emotionally charged part are some how not at fault, but the boys are for "reasons". Essentially now your argument is if you are under 18 you have no right to have an opinion and express it in public?

Who says they were used, you? Just because they support a cause you don't agree with they are automatically guilty and deserve everything that happened right? Wearing a MAGA hat is only provocative to lunatics that can't handle people who have differing opinions than them, and then attempt to attack or shame them into compliance like the street thug brown shirts you are.

You make lots of assumptions about these kids, their beliefs, how they came to them, their parents, but not once do you address the racial slurs hurled at them, the attempts at intimidating them, the threats of violence, or the media lies to cover it up. It is almost like the left never takes any responsibility for its actions instead opting to instead continue to threaten children with violence rather than admit they were lied to and they made a mistake.

This whole event was a textbook example of the "cry bully" tactics of the left, and the media literally willing to put children at risk of violence just to get some more views and support their own political bias. You keep pretending like these kids did anything wrong. Keep exposing yourselves for the unhinged lunatics indiscriminately lashing out desperately seeking any vessel for your hatred while you simultaneously project that image onto your opponent to absolve yourself of any guilt over it.

I made clear that I am not blaming them.  I am blaming the adults who sent them.  These kids have a right to express their opinion but these aren't their opinions and they didn't organize this on their own.  Not one of them voted for Trump.  The idea that the presence of an army of kids demanding the government strip their rights is provocative should not be surprising.  Catholic school kids being pro life is not "their opinion".  Its the opinion of the school/church/parents.  These kids haven't even had sex ed.   These aren't assumptions.  I know this community.

Also, the black Israelites are not part of "the left" as you call it.  They are a far right group and are such a small, fringe group that there isn't much need to devote attention to ridiculing them.  Thats why the media isn't talking about them.  The media never talks about them because they aren't relevant.  No one is secretly on their side.   The Catholic church on the other hand is quite mainstream and yields a lot of power in society.   

Multiple groups can be wrong at the same time.

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I made clear that I am not blaming them.  I am blaming the adults who sent them.  These kids have a right to express their opinion but these aren't their opinions and they didn't organize this on their own.  Not one of them voted for Trump.  The idea that the presence of an army of kids demanding the government strip their rights is provocative should not be surprising.  Catholic school kids being pro life is not "their opinion".  Its the opinion of the school/church/parents.  These kids haven't even had sex ed.   These aren't assumptions.  I know this community.

Also, the black Israelites are not part of "the left" as you call it.  They are a far right group and are such a small, fringe group that there isn't much need to devote attention to ridiculing them.  Thats why the media isn't talking about them.  The media never talks about them because they aren't relevant.  No one is secretly on their side.   The Catholic church on the other hand is quite mainstream and yields a lot of power in society.   

Multiple groups can be wrong at the same time.

Yes, you made it very clear you are not blaming them as you then proceed to refer to them as an "army of kids" as if they are in the Congo brandishing AK-47s. So you are the arbiter of what are their opinions, and which opinions are valid for them to hold? Who gives you or anyone else the right to make that determination and judge their opinions invalid? I never said The Black Israelite were the left, but that does not prevent them from participating in the crybully tactics of the left. You do nothing but run around victimizing people, then when they react you take everything out of context and proclaim it as the worst travesty to ever befall mankind.

This is why the left needs to get more and more extreme, because it is the only way they can keep people from flooding out of the left completely, because if they didn't have extremists, the left would have no one supporting them at all. Speaking of "mainstream" how much power does the mainstream media have in propagating lies against them resulting in direct threats to their lives?

[Spendulus]

.....Its the opinion of the school/church/parents.  These kids haven't even had sex ed.   These aren't assumptions.  I know this community.
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You may know this community, but you have a way of looking at things that leads you to incorrect conclusions.

"Sex ed" is totally irrelevant to how people learn about sex. In fact school is largely irrelevant to the learning process, with certain exceptions. What you favor is cultural indoctrination, only you favor YOUR KIND OF IT WITH YOUR IDEAS.

The reason you don't like the Catholic process is because the kids were not indoctrinated with ideas similar to yours.

In the last two years there have been a large number of times schools and universities have let students off for days to engage in various kinds of protests, Covington is only unusual in that this is right wing. There's a rule set applied to right wing, it has to be harshly condemned. Another rule set applies to liberal protests, of course.

But with Covington your kind got caught red handed in their lies, exaggerations and totally made up crap.

[coins4commies]

.....Its the opinion of the school/church/parents.  These kids haven't even had sex ed.   These aren't assumptions.  I know this community.
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You may know this community, but you have a way of looking at things that leads you to incorrect conclusions.

"Sex ed" is totally irrelevant to how people learn about sex. In fact school is largely irrelevant to the learning process, with certain exceptions. What you favor is cultural indoctrination, only you favor YOUR KIND OF IT WITH YOUR IDEAS.

The reason you don't like the Catholic process is because the kids were not indoctrinated with ideas similar to yours.

In the last two years there have been a large number of times schools and universities have let students off for days to engage in various kinds of protests, Covington is only unusual in that this is right wing. There's a rule set applied to right wing, it has to be harshly condemned. Another rule set applies to liberal protests, of course.

But with Covington your kind got caught red handed in their lies, exaggerations and totally made up crap.

False assumption.  I am a product of this specific type of catholic education.  These ideas were the exact ideas I was indoctrinated with as a child. I was one of these kids.

Covington is not unusual.  Catholic schools (in all conservative areas i've seen) have been doing this every year for a long time.  The "Sex ed" is abstinence only and in morality classes, they go as far as teaching that condoms and even masturbation is a grave sin because you are killing off hundreds of millions of innocent semen for your own pleasure.  They literally have the teacher rip a baby doll apart to teach kids what abortion is.  Students do not have an option to be pro choice and there is no discussion of the debate.  Its just cold-blooded baby killers vs people trying to save innocent babies.  They either learn this indoctrination or fail.  

You mentioned other, student led protests which is very different from the walk for life.  The students do not lead the walk for life.  It isn't their idea.  The catholic community has been in opposition to Roe V Wade forever.  They use the students as pawns.  

Heres how:

-Catholic schools have certain number of service hours required to graduate.  
-You do not have to go on the trip but since most kids have no organic interest in the trip, they offer a deal where going on the trip completes your entire service requirement.  
-Local churches provide free room and board in return for these foot soldiers
-Organizers create a festival-like atmosphere to make the trip seem like a fun weekend for high schoolers who aren't at all interested in the cause

Here is an excerpt from a SF event post

The parish hosts a few hundred high school and college students who cannot afford the high cost of a hotel room to sleep in the parish hall.  They’re provided with food, bathroom facilities and a comfortable floor on which to sleep; they’re also welcome to attend a parish BBQ (this year, noodles will be served and the event is called a “Wok for Life”) the evening of the Walk.  About 400 attend the BBQ, which includes testimonies and personal time with four Sisters of Life, whom the parish has flown out from New York with lodging provided by a convent nearby.

[Spendulus]

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You mentioned other, student led protests which is very different from the walk for life.  The students do not lead the walk for life.  It isn't their idea.  The catholic community has been in opposition to Roe V Wade forever.  They use the students as pawns.  
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I don't see these things as any big deal whatsoever. If you picked a baptist high school, or a muslim high school, you'd have an identical or likely worse liturgy of complaints. Same with a public high school.

As for your laughable "student run protests" we know that many of them were organized and actually run by Russian communists, don't we?

[TECSHARE]

No one has been able to explain to me why these kids should be under any scrutiny whatsoever. So far all I see are a bunch of bigoted and biased opinions based on some anecdotal experiences that are probably long past the norm anyway. Anything you can use to distract from the fact that the left is a mobile mob of two minutes of hate ready to lynch anyone who their corporate overlords and social media masters signal to them to attack with a few clicks of a button. This event exposed the regressive left for what they actually are a mob desperately seeking a vessel for their hatred at all costs, and never taking any accountability for the results.

If the roles had been reversed here in polar political opposites the whaling and the gnashing of teeth would never end. Facts have no relevance to these people any more, as long as they have a target to unleash their indiscriminate rage upon. This is not going to stop until people start standing up to them instead of just trying to avoid them or letting them take you hostage by being louder or more extreme in lieu of facts and logic. If not they will continue escalating until people start eventually give up turning the other cheek and start defending themselves. Then the media will cry how the conservatives perpetrated it and the mob will lap it all up and go looking for retribution, creating a feedback loop of violence. Does no one else see what is going on here? This is not a new script.

[Spendulus]

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But with Covington your kind got caught red handed in their lies, exaggerations and totally made up crap.

False assumption. .....

No, it's not a false assumption. It's exactly what happened, isn't it?