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January 23, 2019, 05:00:08 AM
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So i recently posted a thread here where houses always win in every game. Here's the link.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088278.msg48816442#msg48816442

After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.


2. Color games with dice. So usually, this game consists of three dices , 6 color each (dice have 6 sides). The odds are less because it has more chances of winning. Ex. The dice turns yellow, blue and red, then all the bets will be x1 in that colors.The colors other than that is lost. If the 3 dices turns blue for example then all 5 colors are lost then blue is x3 and so on. If you will notice, the house always shuffle the dices before it roles and put those not winning color in place so that it will have less winners. Look at the position of the dices when it puts on the rolers, then usually, the color below or the color you did not see wins. I usually bet after the dices are arranged so that i can see its position.


I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley

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January 23, 2019, 05:16:00 AM
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I assume you are from the Philippines and you are talking about the local gambling place called "perya". If I am correct about it, the house still have the advantage over their players, trust me I've tried it quite a few times already and noticed what you are pointing here but in the end they couldnt cheat you like what you are saying.
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January 23, 2019, 06:43:51 AM
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If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.
This is not about cheating but this is what the actual skill which is doing the real magic in gambling. Unfortunately most online gambling for not giving room for you to become an observant of their gambling behaviors/secrets and in more particularly how their seeds are being generated.

This is the reason if you gamble against you friend, you will be having fairly 50% of chances to win whereas online gambling houses are claiming to have "the house edge" which is the real destroyer of everything.

Being observant and remembering past experience to avoid one particular incident a kind of things we can apply in gambling but the modern gambling environments are highly ultra faster one which will not allow you to think over anything so that they can keep you always in excited level so that you can gamble and lose and then move away.
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January 23, 2019, 07:01:17 AM
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good for you mate  .  keep an eye out of them because they may ban you next time or else something worst might happen to you because they know that you already busted thier strategy  . just dont play too often or play another games  or you can recruit some assistant to play with you  . good luck ,

@lassie, its not only in the phiipinnes because on most carnivals they also have gambling type of games but majority of them can be found on asean countries like india , singapore , japan  , malaysia  , etc .
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After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.

I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley

Hey this is not called cheating by any means, this is called smartness and being observant which many gamblers at times do not possess. I feel you got lucky with this strategy as I had tried to pull this one a while ago, but it went horribly wrong. Also a piece of advice do not visit that place more than once, or avoid it for a while if they feel you’re winning a lot they could attack you or worst have you robbed.
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January 23, 2019, 09:12:19 AM
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I don't want to do because I don't know if it could be successful or not and the risk is if other people found me cheating the game, they can punch me in my face with many people until I don't have a face hahaha Tongue
But it still worth to try your chances in that game but be careful, don't make any mistakes to cheat them because I am already telling you the risk and I don't want you to get something bad.

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January 23, 2019, 10:55:24 AM
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I assume you are from the Philippines and you are talking about the local gambling place called "perya". If I am correct about it, the house still have the advantage over their players, trust me I've tried it quite a few times already and noticed what you are pointing here but in the end they couldnt cheat you like what you are saying.

Yes mate. Im from the Philippines and yes we can say that they still couldnt cheat us because the dice and the ball can still move to different directions. Its not a 100% accurate but I can say that its a 75% more possibility than just making a hunch. Its effective for me, and still worth a try.

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January 23, 2019, 11:48:43 AM
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So i recently posted a thread here where houses always win in every game. Here's the link.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088278.msg48816442#msg48816442

After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.


2. Color games with dice. So usually, this game consists of three dices , 6 color each (dice have 6 sides). The odds are less because it has more chances of winning. Ex. The dice turns yellow, blue and red, then all the bets will be x1 in that colors.The colors other than that is lost. If the 3 dices turns blue for example then all 5 colors are lost then blue is x3 and so on. If you will notice, the house always shuffle the dices before it roles and put those not winning color in place so that it will have less winners. Look at the position of the dices when it puts on the rolers, then usually, the color below or the color you did not see wins. I usually bet after the dices are arranged so that i can see its position.


I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley

I don't think that you should try your luck so fast. Maybe you need to check and observe many times and after a considerable period of time that the results are the expected ones then you will be able to test your strategy. I believe that you can't cheat it as you can't in the online casinos as well. Maybe you were lucky enough to guess the correct color.
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January 23, 2019, 12:24:50 PM
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I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley
Good for you if you did able to triple your gambling capital on that time and you can abuse it as long as you want but I doubt if they do really cheat players out they will notice that
you had notice already.

On the other side if those cheatings do really exist then there would be players will notice it and complaint specially with that 0 degree surface on that ball game and also with that color game
its just concidence unless those cubes are totally or equally plained sized.

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January 23, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
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After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.

I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley

Hey this is not called cheating by any means, this is called smartness and being observant which many gamblers at times do not possess. I feel you got lucky with this strategy as I had tried to pull this one a while ago, but it went horribly wrong. Also a piece of advice do not visit that place more than once, or avoid it for a while if they feel you’re winning a lot they could attack you or worst have you robbed.
Agree to that, this a wise move when dealing with gambling, being very attentive and knowing how to take advantage will help you out to win, congrats OP for being so active though there's no assurance with what you found out but it can help those people who loves this type of gambling they can use this as a basis and try to observe as well before they will make any bets.

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January 23, 2019, 12:46:40 PM
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local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

There are very few games at carnivals that are not rigged. I am not familiar with this "perya", but be very careful, especially if the game has a person/owner running it.
Also observe the game for more days and check who is winning. If the ones winning are the same 10 persons most of the time, it's a gang of friends of the "owner".

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January 23, 2019, 12:46:44 PM
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Well... you're in a strange country...

Here in western countries casinos are under HEAVY regulations.
There are regular testing, confirming that no cheating can be done.
In particular the odds of all machines are tested on a regular bases by neutral outside companies. Everything must be completely random or the casino get closed and loses its licence...
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January 23, 2019, 01:03:31 PM
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I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley
Good for you if you did able to triple your gambling capital on that time and you can abuse it as long as you want but I doubt if they do really cheat players out they will notice that
you had notice already.

On the other side if those cheatings do really exist then there would be players will notice it and complaint specially with that 0 degree surface on that ball game and also with that color game
its just concidence unless those cubes are totally or equally plained sized.

Yeah, knowing i noticed that not 0 degrees on that day, maybe its just really a coincidence but im glad i am a part on that coincidence. The cubes really are on same sizes and weights its just that, the amount of force applied to roll the dice plus the friction can change the technique. Its not a hundred percent but in 5 games, you will surely win even once. If not, i consider it as my lucky day and im still grateful for it.

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January 23, 2019, 01:20:47 PM
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Hmm but i guess you are not that certain about this since you didnt bring all the money from the bankers ,and if this really true the players will notice this since you said that the red color is consistently bringing winnings though i wanna congratulate you for making tripple the capital that day,looking forward for more gambling tips
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January 23, 2019, 01:57:35 PM
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good for you mate  .  keep an eye out of them because they may ban you next time or else something worst might happen to you because they know that you already busted thier strategy  . just dont play too often or play another games  or you can recruit some assistant to play with you  . good luck ,

@lassie, its not only in the phiipinnes because on most carnivals they also have gambling type of games but majority of them can be found on asean countries like india , singapore , japan  , malaysia  , etc .
Yeah, you should not forget to be careful since carnival is an open area and everything is possible to happen. I’m so glad to hear your winning strategies but remember not to play every night so you will not become addict on that game, control that level of your emotion.
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January 23, 2019, 02:20:51 PM
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Its not a cheat though, its just happen that red is the lucky color this year and maybe people believes on that. In any casinos, carnival there are some bets that you think is good for you, and since its your lucky day you’ve got a profit but for sure it will not always happen so just enjoy the profit that you’ve get.
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January 23, 2019, 03:29:17 PM
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It's not cheating,as you said you observed it and that's the strategy that you came with to your mind. You have no assurance of that strategy but at least you have better and higher chance to win. I know that color dice game, sometimes you'll win x3 or x2 if the color will flock on the same color. Btw, can you give an idea on how much you've take home?

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January 23, 2019, 03:49:46 PM
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I assume you are from the Philippines and you are talking about the local gambling place called "perya". If I am correct about it, the house still have the advantage over their players, trust me I've tried it quite a few times already and noticed what you are pointing here but in the end they couldnt cheat you like what you are saying.

Yes mate. Im from the Philippines and yes we can say that they still couldnt cheat us because the dice and the ball can still move to different directions. Its not a 100% accurate but I can say that its a 75% more possibility than just making a hunch. Its effective for me, and still worth a try.

Well, no one can be sure if the house can cheat or not in the back end. But obviously the casino house favor the casino and not the players. I will suggest to go to trusted casino only as there you will have 75% of the chances that they support fair play.









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January 23, 2019, 04:16:06 PM
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When you say that you're sure about this, how have you analysed your findings?
How many games did you watch, before you can to the conclusion that the ball was getting into the red coloured hole?

I'm not dismissing the idea that a badly tilted table could alter the results, but just be careful that you have a large enough sample size.
In the end it could also be that your mind is playing tricks on you and that you're just seeing what you want to see. 

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January 23, 2019, 04:29:37 PM
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I do not understand why this was posted here tough? I mean I understand the title says it is not for online gambling, but it is not even about gambling worldwide neither, its not about casinos neither, its just one game in one place that some people can play. Why is it talked about on a gambling discussion topic at bitcointalk forums? Should this be only for crypto casino games where we can play online ?

I am sure there are gambling games in many carnival places all around the world where the game is rigged and if you figure out how the game is rigged then you can probably get more money from that then playing online but that doesn't apply globally which makes it your issue and not others. You can talk about it with local people and your friends but why share it with us?
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