Which gambling sites offers investment

[Xinarae*]

I recently joined a new site since last week, called Bitvest. I put in my investment there, more than $150. It is a big amount for me,,, but I had been collecting some bonuses recently from the end of 2018 and decided I will invest the extra in BTC. But different from my own personal holdings, I wanted to experiment by investing in a casino bankroll.

Many others as mentioned above, but I wanted a site with visibility:)

Im beginner.How much should I start? Im afraid that is scammers.

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

[BTCevo]

try this casino stake.com
it is good

It is not enough to say that the casino is good. You should add some features on why people should try it out, the features and other stuffs that they can enjoy and benefit from it.

I know it's a good casino and is a sister company of primedice but I can't see that they have an investment option.

Stake apparently doesn't offer this option

And neither does PrimeDice, for that matter. I remember as a few years ago this question had been raised (when many casinos opened their bankrolls for outside investments), and Stunna (if I'm not confusing him with someone else here) said that they simply didn't need this kind of money

And it makes sense actually. If they are generating enough profits on their own, they may not want this kind of "fundraising". Anyway, any established casino (at least, as I see it) can take the path of private investments (i.e. bring in a couple of extremely rich investors) if they ever choose so

I believe from the start of their primedice site, they already made tons of profit and I can say that they also have a great bankroll, so with some big bankroll they can manage to offer this huge payout as well even they got scammed last time with really huge amount. And now they are profitting and opened a new site as stake.com with primedice profit I guess. So yes, they completely do not need our money to support them

[veleten]

I recently joined a new site since last week, called Bitvest. I put in my investment there, more than $150. It is a big amount for me,,, but I had been collecting some bonuses recently from the end of 2018 and decided I will invest the extra in BTC. But different from my own personal holdings, I wanted to experiment by investing in a casino bankroll.

Many others as mentioned above, but I wanted a site with visibility:)

Im beginner.How much should I start? Im afraid that is scammers.

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

if you are a beginner you should read bitcointalk forum more
there are many legit casinos that offer investment, simply google and read the corresponding topics
Ponzi  scammers have nothing to do with the gambling sites, totally diffrent sites and totally different ways of earning money
investment is risky too , do not think of it as 100% risk free

[Ewinsane]

Yeah they are already rich as hell so why would stake or primedice would want to get funding.

I mean look at the funding from other places, they do not get above couple thousand at most. Primedice is a place that has been around since forever and they got like couple bitcoins per wager for a long time while bitcoin was incredibly low priced as well, betting 10k on primedice was much different back in the day than today, it took hundreds of btc to do that. Which means they made so much money from those days that it worth incredibly more today.

They literally got scammed 2000 bitcoins from a seed hacker and still continued their way. They do not obviously need any funding at all because they have been making like a bank forever and what we can offer as a bankroll would be lower than what they have let alone be more than what they need.

No one is too rich, the whole reason people get successful and more so is simply because they are hungry for more success.

There may be no good business reason now for these guys to seek more funding, but who knows? So many good reasons to want more funds. If Telegram even wanted an ICO and had good reason, why not? See all the amounts they raised, guess investors thought it was a good idea too.

For casinos, it's simply expansion. Maybe they want to grow even bigger and take over the gambling world online

There is a huge difference between getting an investment and getting your bankroll invested. One is getting money to expand bigger the other is so you can get less risky while running a casino. Primedice or stake wouldn't do bankroll investment because honestly they have so much money that they do not need bitcoins to cover for the bankroll, what you are talking about expanding is not there because its just getting bankroll investment help, not funding.

They could get their websites funded by people (and believe me it would take just 1 day to reach to tens of thousands of bitcoin funded) and then go out and use their own money to get bigger but they are already doing that as well, look at stake its brand new compared to primedice, they literally used their own money to fund primedice then made profits and used it to open stake so they literally do not need any help from us.

[adaseb]

Yes sites like PD and Stake have loads of BTC and don't need investments for their bankroll but it doesn't necessarily mean they won't offer it in the future.

A good example is Facebook. Facebook had massive money and they went public, why? To raise funds and invest those funds into other projects. And looking at the Facebook stock it was pretty succesful in doing so.

With Gambling sites its no different however at the moment its just not in their agenda most likely.

[deisik]

Yes sites like PD and Stake have loads of BTC and don't need investments for their bankroll but it doesn't necessarily mean they won't offer it in the future.

A good example is Facebook. Facebook had massive money and they went public, why? To raise funds and invest those funds into other projects. And looking at the Facebook stock it was pretty succesful in doing so

I think these are two entirely different things

For example, when you are investing in the casino bankroll, you are expecting to receive a share of the profits earned by the casino and it is legally binding (at least this is what you expect). But with stock it is different and you are not guaranteed to receive dividends even if the company earns huge profits

For example, if major stockholders decide to reinvest these profits (or whatever other than paying out dividends), you will receive nothing. In this way, investing in the bankroll is more like investing directly in a business, i.e. you become an owner of that business (some part of it) and can demand your piece of the pie

[hulla]

if gambling investment i recommend bitvest. Bitvest gives you many options on how your money will be spent in the investment. Time lock or the duration, what games are you going to invest and such. The minimum investment is 0.01 (can be affordable)

0.01 is really affordable to start investing to the gambling site. But I think once you invest only 0.01 bitcoin that payour or the profit that possible you get from them is very little.  So better to bigger the amount that possible to invest maybe 0.1 bitcoin is minimum for your investment and return will be good or enough. Bitvest is good gambling site that can you really invest money while you playing games too.

It is good for everyone as not every one has money or has very little investment being done as mostly people would be holding from the highs of 2017 and due to which their investment would have fallen significantly. Not bad to stay invested in it as for long term holders they would get some earning from it.

Getting the point that instead of holding your funds while waiting for the rise to happen again, that's a good idea especially to those who really holding the coins until now, those investors who ride between 2017 till first quarter of 2018, bankroll investment can bring them passive income, unlike storing it alone without doing nothing.

Not that much risk unlike trying with trading where the potential of losing more is higher without any knowledge.

Investing into gambling site seems to be less risky than crypto trading but crypto trader with unique knowledge can also passive income. Mins you, the two investment have it own potential and no investment will ever guarantee ones profit every time. However, knowing the depth of the two investment is every essential though.

I really hope you really don't think that way, if you're trading in normal situations you can't possibly lose all your investment, but putting your money in some betting website hoping that they don't exit scam ?, most of the sites that offer decent interest on investment are one way or another scam anyway, and if you ever going to do this you better be sure that they're legit.

You're right with what you said about trading in normal wouldn't lead to loosing all investment but that only apply to experienced trading because the key to crypto lied on the time of entering and exiting the market which was the same thing that applied to gambling either cause alot of gamblers find it so hard to exit the game which is the best way of cutting losses. However, the site you mentioned that offer interest on investment are usually a ponzi site in the long run but investing into reputable gambling id quite right if know the basic rules and regulations involve.

[justspare]

There is a huge difference between facebooks public offering and bankroll investment. I mean if primedice ever wants to sell their shares that could create a lot of love and funding, we need to of course see a ton of accounting data in order to know how reasonable it is and how many stocks from what price and so forth but in the end that would get a lot of attention and would help primedice a lot. Dudes could buy out all of crypto casino world all together with  that.

All joking aside with that type of money they could easily buy nitrogen and swc poker so they would go dice+casino+sportsbook+poker all owned by them however they could also develop it themselves as well not like they have trouble marketing anything. The difference is, when you fund the bankroll, its JUST for bankroll and they don't need that, funding the whole company is different.

[deisik]

All joking aside with that type of money they could easily buy nitrogen and swc poker so they would go dice+casino+sportsbook+poker all owned by them however they could also develop it themselves as well not like they have trouble marketing anything. The difference is, when you fund the bankroll, its JUST for bankroll and they don't need that, funding the whole company is different

Actually, we can't be sure of anything in this regard

I mean, how do we know if they haven't already bought or developed the whole spectrum of products related to online betting and gambling? We know that Stunna is behind Stake simply because he chose to admit that himself for promotion purposes or something else. But maybe he is also behind some of the other big guns in the field (financially or otherwise) but he just chose not to tell us anything about it (yet)

That reminds me of the rumors that had been circulating a couple decades or so ago about Intel buying AMD stock to support them financially. It may look a bit counterintuitive - really, why would they ever want to help their best frenemy and competitor? But if we take into account other rumors about dividing Intel into a several independent companies by regulating authorities (like Standard Oil of the Rockefeller fame), that makes sense after all

[wwzsocki]

I am very interested to know which gambling sites are offering investments, I research it but it seems like information is not updated.
Please put the terms like the percentage and whatever necessary information that I should know.

I was just writing a comment a few minutes ago in a thread about scam ICO in the gambling industry.

I don't mention the name for a purpose to not advertise this scam anymore to anybody.

I hope this will give you a little thinking before investing in this type of ICO or any ICO.

[passwordnow]

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

There are casino's that are coming out like this but if a legit casino offers bankroll investment, don't think that it's like this. There's more for these casino's to tune in because they are legit operating and most of the investment opportunities they offer are all legit.

Reminder: this is for those casino's that are reputable.

[Ziskinberg]

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

There are casino's that are coming out like this but if a legit casino offers bankroll investment, don't think that it's like this. There's more for these casino's to tune in because they are legit operating and most of the investment opportunities they offer are all legit.

Reminder: this is for those casino's that are reputable.

I think nowadays we have more casinos that are legit and most of them are not accepting investments.
Stake and primedice are good casinos and as far as I know, they never once made an investment open for the public.
They are still profitable now and they are willing to take the risk since they are confident that their site will survive and will continue to operate profitably.

[raven7886]

The reason for obvious good casinos is that when a casino is even attempting to scam someone, hell even when they are trying to check if they are paying the right person with KYC we make a huge scene. So, the only casinos that stays above the water are the really legit ones, we discredit and neg the bad ones and even some slow and incompetent ones as well even if they are not scam. That is why you can see on the forum which ones are really good and which ones are not to be trusted.

Also the amount of "ranking of x" type of topics are more common now where you can go in and check which websites are ranked high and why and which websites ranked low and why and that way you can see which website you could invest and not get scammed for it. Easier said than done but its a lot better than blindly going for it.

[passwordnow]

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

There are casino's that are coming out like this but if a legit casino offers bankroll investment, don't think that it's like this. There's more for these casino's to tune in because they are legit operating and most of the investment opportunities they offer are all legit.

Reminder: this is for those casino's that are reputable.

I think nowadays we have more casinos that are legit and most of them are not accepting investments.
Stake and primedice are good casinos and as far as I know, they never once made an investment open for the public.
They are still profitable now and they are willing to take the risk since they are confident that their site will survive and will continue to operate profitably.

Those who are established well doesn't cater or offer investments anymore but before during the early days, most of them does. The two casino's you mentioned are well reputed and has a very reputable owner. They never made any public announcement for investment because they already have enough budget to cover their operation and expenses. I wouldn't guess on how much the budget for those 2 big casino's you mentioned, primedice is well known and has been operating for years too.

[Supercrypt]

I bet they have at least thousands of bitcoins in their name, if not over ten thousand bitcoins. We are talking about primedice that lost over 2 thousand dollars in hacking and still didn't had any issues at all. Stake is now having its V2 as well so that shows us stake is doing good because if something is not doing well there is no point on reinvesting into it but if its going well than reinvesting is a smart business decision.

On the other hand there are still legit places like crypto-games and just-dice and many like that which takes investments as well. Some make you the bankroll and that is good, some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

[mindrust]

some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.

[Ziskinberg]

some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.

Well, honestly, I am not gonna take that, the return is very low considering it's a high risk investment.
I feel it's easier if I will just put my money in the bank with a time deposit of 1 year and I'm sure I will get an interest rate higher than that although lower than 10% per year.

[Caladonian]

some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.

Well, honestly, I am not gonna take that, the return is very low considering it's a high risk investment.
I feel it's easier if I will just put my money in the bank with a time deposit of 1 year and I'm sure I will get an interest rate higher than that although lower than 10% per year.

You have your point, but if you are also believing that bitcoin will grow and the value will be much higher after some time, it's best to take that risk and
invest your money for passive earnings, aside from 4% yearly profits the fact that bitcoin might increase unlike with placing your money with the banks
where you are just entitle to gain the increased that has been allocated.

Taking the risk for much better/ higher outcome, it's for the investors to choose using their own assessment.

[bitcoinisbest]

some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.

Quite difficult choice to go with such a low interest rates. In our country the interest rate in the bank is higher than this and also if given to friends or other you can earn much more than this. Might be in your country interest rate would be on lower end due to which you may be better with this rate.

[justspare]

The point is not to have 4% for your national fiat tough, the point is to have %4 in bitcoin. If you put your money in the bank you put it in national fiat amount and bitcoin could go up at that moment which means even if you are making a profit with your interest you are losing a chance to make more profit in bitcoin. Your bank can give you %20 a year in national fiat but if bitcoin goes up %25 this year that means you are missing out.

So this investment freebitco.in has is for people who think bitcoin will go up in value, you put your bitcoin in there and make more bitcoin from the interest and also hope that you make money from bitcoin increasing as well. So you see its a lot different than the interest bank gives you, you can make money with both ways thanks to freebitco.in whereas you make money only in one way at the bank. The question you need to ask yourself will bitcoin go up or down, if you think its going up than freebitco.in is better option, if you think it will go down than bank is the better option.