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February 22, 2019, 07:10:41 PM
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Max Blumenthal doing real reporting on-the-ground in Venezuela

Those poor poor zoo animals!  Even I bought that one back a few years ago.
This person did not notice two important things in his "supermarket tour": Few people next to him.
Because: prices. People earn the equivalent 8 USD dolars a month and the goods on his camera almost all are above that price.
Also: Venezuela is not Caracas, Caracas has spots that look like an oasis, but only if you have foreign currency with you...

As for the zoo, it is true, some animals where slaughtered and eaten, others died due to sickness from almost zero maintenance in the zoopark.
The sign he is making a crap joke about is not against Maduro, but a donation campaign for children in need...
Take this socialist all his money and make him live here and see if he likes it for real...

The capitalists did this? Oh really? Maduro did not print money?, did not fixate prices of things? Of course the economy is a capitalist lie, according to socialists. Socialism works perfectly inside their minds, so its impossible for it to fail in real life... And yet it always does.

His comments about "Colombians taking away the money" reveal his obscene ignorance. Go back to America and claim how capitalism is the cause of Venezuela's misery, not socialism. Because it was capitalists, not socialists who have been in power the last 20 years...

"Real reporting"? Take his ass to a poor neighborhood atop one of Caracas slums, but not for a few hours, make him live there without any money, have him taste what socialism is all about...



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February 22, 2019, 08:12:22 PM
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In Venezuela, the revolution has been rattling for almost a month now, despite the multimillion-dollar riots of citizens and the appointment of a new provisional government. Maduro stubbornly clings to power. All this is accompanied by a humanitarian catastrophe, the population is completely impoverished and on the verge of starvation, and the dictator is blocking supplies of humanitarian aid to the country. The vast majority of military Venezuela still maintain neutrality, not supporting any of the parties, but it will not last that long. The pressure on the Venezuelan military is increasing as it approaches February 23, when a massive supply of humanitarian aid to the country is scheduled. Even presidents from a number of Latin American states are ready to come to the border of Colombia and Venezuela to monitor and control the process. Yesterday Trump turned to the Venezuelan army and demanded that she not interfere with the movement of the convoys with help. At the same time, there are constantly reports of negotiations with the highest command of the Venezuelan army. Also on February 23, aid from Russia should arrive in the amount of 300 tons, but this is a drop in the ocean. British billionaire Richard Branson organized the concert of the famous Bob Geldof. The collected money is planned to spend on humanitarian assistance to the people of Venezuela. The main question is what will happen on February 23. If, nevertheless, humanitarian aid starts to come in, then how exactly the Venezuelan army will behave - this is the main uncertainty. Formally, she will have to execute Maduro's orders, but will she? And if so, how will the neighbors of Venezuela behave?
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February 22, 2019, 08:35:08 PM
Last edit: February 22, 2019, 09:08:22 PM by tvbcof
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...but this is a drop in the ocean. British billionaire Richard Branson organized the concert of the famous Bob Geldof. The collected money is planned ...

Your team is currently losing, and a transparent propaganda ploy by a few spirit-cooking weirdo billionaires are not probably going to turn it around.  Try harder.

Edit:

Scanned around in the livestream of the 'concert' a bit.  The verifiable live human contingent of the crowd looks like it could have been brought in in 8 or 10 tour buses.

Occasionally there would be a 1 second shot of a bigger crowd, and it looked phony AF to me.  Especially one with the live crowd in front and a mass of people in the distant background.  If it's not been snipped, you'd recognize it by there being a couple of tent structures.  I really only saw that one once in my scans.

There were lots and lots of shots of looking over a small-ish number of real live people at the stage.  The camera-man (if not a drone) is able to walk smoothly and easily laterally over and over again.  Either that is the extent of the participants, or there is some sort of a roped off path for the camera to work.  Given that the concert is (supposedly) way out in bum-fuck Columbia, I'd expect the former.  Whatever the case, not one time did the camera-man turn his camera around to capture the sea of people who are supposed to be behind him.

This thing stinks to high heaven.  If Geldof and Brandson are there, they must be out getting their young-blood transfusions or something since I didn't see them.  Of course I didn't watch a whole lot, and wouldn't really recognize them anyway.

It will be interesting to see what more skilled 'truthers' make of this (proposed) charade.


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February 22, 2019, 09:53:56 PM
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Today there is an International Music Benefit concert for Venezuela:


Venezuela Aid Live, led by Sir Richard Branson, has brought together an array of renowned artists in hopes of raising $10 million which will be the starting point towards raising $100 Million total in humanitarian aid & donations from governments.

All this humanitarian Aid is already piling at the borders waiting to get in. Maduro doesn't want it, but the people of Venezuela do, and they have been going to the border to persuade the military blockade and let the aid go in.

More information on this page: https://www.venezuelaaidlive.com/

The concert is being streamed live here:


United Voices for
Venezuela


  • The event will take place on February 22, in Cucuta, Colombia, which is located right on the border between Colombia and Venezuela.
  • The three basic goals of the event are to create awareness of the current situation, to reopen the Venezuelan borders in order to get the humanitarian aid in, and to obtain enough funds to design and carry out a sustainable social investment that will benefit Venezuela and help bring it and its people back.
  • Venezuela Aid Live is lead by Richard Branson and Bruno Ocampo, with the support of several renowned artists, entrepreneurs and volunteers, who have worked tirelessly in order to make a difference.

February 23 is the date set for the humanitarian aid to be delivered, but today 22 this concert will be held in neighbor Cucuta, Colombia, right next to the border with Venezuela.

President Guaidó is traveling by car to the border to officially receive the aid, he has already been blocked multiple times but so far has been able to go thru, thanks to the support of several people on the way confronting the military with orders from Maduro to stop him.
I'm Venezuelan, and this concert you're talking about is a window to hope.

You can not cover the sun with a finger, and the genocidal socialist influence is the worst of all political currents, I do not wish any country to fall into disgrace Socialist or Communist, which for me is the same, it is always good to live Free, the adoption of bitcoin in Venezuela is great, although the majority of Venezuelans do not handle very well the concepts of Blockchain and technology associated with it, many survive thanks to the fact that they risk trading, participate in some projects and what they earn is much higher than what they can earn on a salary with a normal job, the inflation that everyone talks is 1,000,000%, is exorbitant, has no explanation as a country continues to hold on to its nails while a handful steals everything , but the Real Inflation figure is more than 2,000,000% ... That is the reality of all this, for that reason Bitcoin and this technology represent an economy that escapes from the usual, that is the Venezuela of now, that in fact there is a great hope to get out of the nightmare already.



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February 22, 2019, 10:00:45 PM
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Your team is currently losing, and a transparent propaganda ploy by a few spirit-cooking weirdo billionaires are not probably going to turn it around.  Try harder.

Today two indigenous people were killed for protesting against Maduro's refusal to let humanitarian aid in.

Team? This is a game for you "socialists" living in wealthy capitalist nations, playing with people's lives and laughing at the misery of others. But why you didn't come to live your utopian dream? Without any money of course, let the socialist state employ you and see if you like it...

How about you go to a hospital here? Surely the socialist system is superior? heh, hypocrites.

Don't worry, you'll get free gasoline, while it lasts. Food and medicine is overrated, and weapons of imperialist domination...



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February 22, 2019, 10:32:11 PM
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Your team is currently losing, and a transparent propaganda ploy by a few spirit-cooking weirdo billionaires are not probably going to turn it around.  Try harder.

Today two indigenous people were killed for protesting against Maduro's refusal to let humanitarian aid in.

Team? This is a game for you "socialists" living in wealthy capitalist nations, playing with people's lives and laughing at the misery of others. But why you didn't come to live your utopian dream? Without any money of course, let the socialist state employ you and see if you like it...

How about you go to a hospital here? Surely the socialist system is superior? heh, hypocrites.

Don't worry, you'll get free gasoline, while it lasts. Food and medicine is overrated, and weapons of imperialist domination...

Dude, I'm not a Socialist and don't want to be.  Especially under the current definition.  I don't know much about Maduro but most of the people I trust claim he's a scumbag.  No reason to doubt it.  I did like Chavez because he was a nationalist with balls.

In fact a country which is rich in natural resources (Norway, Venezuela, etc) probably _could_ make socialism work fairly well for the peeps even with the corruption and inefficiency with the system inevitably degrades into.  I've a feeling that that, as much as anything, is why the full scale economic war on those poor people.

Anyone can see that Guido (or whatever his name is) is a puppet who only cares about giving all of Venezuela's resources to his globalist masters.  No way life is going to be ultimately better for the people of Venezuela under such a system.  They've 'been there, done that.'  That's why you guys don't get any support in the country and why Maduro won the election handily.

As for 'humanitarian aid', it's inevitably weapons and things which go boom when the CIA runs it.  It's happened again and again.  If you want to get food to the 'starving people' of Venezuela, give it to the Russians to deliver to Maduro, or someone who he (and the people of the nation) trust a little bit.  But of course you know that Abrams and his ilk don't give two fucks about starving South Americans or anyone else.   They just want the oil.  It's a joke and a charade, and everyone knows it.

As for the two 'indigenous' people [love your appropriation of the eco-scammer globalists shtick BTW], it might be justifiable to go 'full Duterte' on their asses.  Anyone 'helping' the boarder aid fraud game is obviously an operative trying to destabilize the country even more...or is to stupid to live.


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February 22, 2019, 11:37:19 PM
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Anyone 'helping' the boarder aid fraud game is obviously an operative trying to destabilize the country even more...or is to stupid to live.

Venezuela crisis: Border clashes as aid row intensifies

At least two people have been killed and several others injured in clashes near Venezuela's border with Brazil, local media report.

Venezuelan security forces opened fire on a group of civilians who tried to prevent them from blocking the border.

The clashes occurred when members of an indigenous community confronted Venezuelan troops on Friday morning in the southern Venezuelan town of Kumarakapay, AFP news agency reports.



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Anyone 'helping' the boarder aid fraud game is obviously an operative trying to destabilize the country even more...or is to stupid to live.

Venezuela crisis: Border clashes as aid row intensifies

At least two people have been killed and several others injured in clashes near Venezuela's border with Brazil, local media report.

Venezuelan security forces opened fire on a group of civilians who tried to prevent them from blocking the border.

The clashes occurred when members of an indigenous community confronted Venezuelan troops on Friday morning in the southern Venezuelan town of Kumarakapay, AFP news agency reports.

All I need to see is the '.bbc.' or '.time.' part of a URL to be able to reliably predict the kind of propaganda I'd fine in back of a link.  Globalist tripe is a waste of time...unless one is studying the elements of modern state department propaganda after the smith-mundt 'modernization' act timeframe.


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No way life is going to be ultimately better for the people of Venezuela under such a system.

There aren't many countries this side of Yemen, Syria, or NK where it's actually worse than now in Venezuela... so yes, there is a good chance that without Maduro it would be better. Of course when you think that humanitarian aid for starving population is fraud then you can justify just about anything.

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No way life is going to be ultimately better for the people of Venezuela under such a system.

There aren't many countries this side of Yemen, Syria, or NK where it's actually worse than now in Venezuela... so yes, there is a good chance that without Maduro it would be better. Of course when you think that humanitarian aid for starving population is fraud then you can justify just about anything.

I'll reserve judgement on that until AFTER the attack by the BIS-based central banking cartel is over.  Especially after seeing the fully stocked store in Caracas which Max Blumenthal visited (link above.)

Seems fairly obvious to me that there is plenty of food, at least in some places.  Toothpaste also.  The problem is mostly that money doesn't work, and it's equally obvious that that is the attack vector being used against these people.  Hopefully they can make something work with crypto.


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No way life is going to be ultimately better for the people of Venezuela under such a system.

There aren't many countries this side of Yemen, Syria, or NK where it's actually worse than now in Venezuela... so yes, there is a good chance that without Maduro it would be better. Of course when you think that humanitarian aid for starving population is fraud then you can justify just about anything.

I'll reserve judgement on that until AFTER the attack by the BIS-based central banking cartel is over.  Especially after seeing the fully stocked store in Caracas which Max Blumenthal visited (link above.)

Seems fairly obvious to me that there is plenty of food, at least in some places.  Toothpaste also.  The problem is mostly that money doesn't work, and it's equally obvious that that is the attack vector being used against these people.  Hopefully they can make something work with crypto.

When things are scarce, its because the prices are fixed AND the officials are doing their "job". I live here, you don't. We had periods where it was indeed impossible to find things like toothpaste or toilet paper and many other things like car batteries or lamp bulbs.

Prices of many things are "still fixed", but business simply disregard the socialist rules. From time to time Maduro orders officials to imprison managers who disobey the "fair price law", and during those times things would disappear for months again, only to re-appear in the "black market" at outrageous prices.

When things reappear (such as right now) the officials are not doing their job, are being bribed, or are tired. There are still shortages, more or less rotational. Sometimes its cooking oil, sometimes its mayo, sometimes its soap. More and more things are reappearing, all imported, things that used to be manufactured in Venezuela for much cheaper prices, but that was before socialism destroyed the economy and made them go bankrupt, or in some cases gave the ownership to workers who in turn made them go bankrupt (they had no choice, the socialist imposed them ridiculously low prices for their products to remain profitable no matter who owned "the means of production" anyway).

In health the situation is much much worse. I have acquaintances that left the country, remaining here would mean dead to them. Several diabetes patients are unable to take their medicine, people go blind and have all the nasty effects and short life someone untreated goes. Same with all diseases, basically there is no treatment (or healthcare for that matter).

Its "illegal" to send food or medicine, but this has been occurring on a massive scale. Either by bribing customs or smuggling. There is also a small group of importers tied to Maduro, they get permits and subsidized dollars. Only when the socialist "controls" fail or dwindle, things reappear (in the market), but because the "rules" are still there, and the market remains intervened, there are heavy disruptions both in price and availability and they happen at random. Don't count that you will find toilet paper (at any price) in that place every day, you won't.

It is not a matter of "the coin failing", The coin was destroyed by Maduro, some think intentionally. Because Lenin once said: "Destroy the money to destroy capitalists". The inflation of the coin is 80% Maduro's policies. He spends too much, and then the money was gone, he ordered to print more, taxing the entire population and destroying the REAL wage.

In 2009 an average wage was 250 USD, and now is 8 USD. The socialists ironically reduced the wages, and at the same time destroyed the economy by forbidding everything attempting to "control" the marker and provoking much worse side effects.

At the same time... The destruction of the economy damaged all public services, such as health and education, but actually everything, water, electricity, police, everything including the military have serious maintenance problems and even lack of personnel, due to people quitting and many leaving the country.

The "Fully stocked store" means nothing when only a few can actually buy the things there. The hypocrite in the video paid with USD, paying with physical currency is a privilege few Venezuelans can do, even the banknotes become scarce from time to time, debit card is what the majority of Venezuelans use.

Also nobody explained the ignorant American many things in that shop have weird names BECAUSE it what some suppliers managed to evade the "price law". Why camomile scented? Because the price fixed the normal variant. Why is the shampoo not called shampoo but "hair pre treatment"? Why is the milk labelled "reconstituted lactic liquid" or some other weird euphemism? Because it was the only way they could keep producing and selling it at market price. Anything that survived socialism and still exists and works, does it because it managed to evade the socialist rules one way or the other.

All that food can be seized by the people thus solving the problem? Is that what your socialist mind thinks? Do you think that hasn't been tried here? And what where the results? They have sacked those supermarkets before, you get 6 hour lines for a few days, then the place remains closed and empty for months, some never reopen. Even the socialists currently usurping power eventually stopped doing that as it provoked much more unrest later. Tho they still do it from time to time, at random, or when Maduro feels like so.

In socialism there is no rule of law, only the rule of the executive branch which is usually a small elite group on the top.

These descriptions don't match anything in your theories but its what your theories always produce. Because you haven't had a chance to try and live with them, you keep defending it. If you had won over there and made America bankrupt, you would understand my position. But you still "believe" in socialism, because it has to be an act of faith since all evidence shows it results in far much worse living conditions, corruption and its worse for everyone, ESPECIALLY the poor.

But you don't know what really means, or pass months without eating an ounce of meat or cheese, due to socialist results on the economy. All you do is preach from your ivory tower, your paradise of wealth and overabundance, and overall, your freedom.


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I've heard that the false flag (Western-backed mercenaries shooting people and blaming it on Maduro...probably 'indigenous people' in the propaganda) is scheduled for tomorrow.  This to justify an invasion of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKnJHqOpQG8

I used to think that we (the US) would not be allowed by our masters to waste our blood and treasure in S. America before Iran was done thus more-or-less completing the 'Greater Israel project.'

More and more I'm warming to the hypothesis that Israel, Russia, and Iran are already on the same team and are gas-lighting us with all the we-are-enemies crap.  In that case we Americans could be free to burn out in S. America which will help the collapse of the U.S..  The U.S. has no place in the 'new* world order' other than as a natural resource pool.  Just got to get rid of those pesky Americans.

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Venezuela soldiers abandon posts at Colombia border


Soldiers from the Venezuelan national guard have left their posts ahead of an opposition-led effort to bring aid into the country, Colombia's migration agency said.

Several people wounded, by shotgun grapeshot or tear gas cans shot horizontally (they have killed demonstrators that way before).
At least 4 dead near the border with Brazil, all demonstrators demanding opening of the borders for to let the humanitarian aid.

Most but not all humanitarian aid was blocked, burned or stolen. Also there have been several desertions, thankfully.

There are several demonstrations nationwide... As usual, unarmed civilians had to face armed police, armed military, or armed irregulars...
So far at least 14 dead and several hundred wounded, in the various border cross-points and within nearby cities.


Maduro’s opponents brave tear gas in push to deliver aid




CUCUTA, Colombia (AP) — Opponents of Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro braved tear gas as they rescued boxes of emergency food and medicine from burning trucks during violent clashes on the Colombian border with security forces blocking the entry of U.S.-supplied humanitarian aid.

The panicked scene Saturday on the binational Santander bridge was the dramatic high point of a day that also saw two people killed in unrest near Brazil, at least 23 soldiers switch loyalties to opposition leader Juan Guaido, and Maduro break off diplomatic relations with Colombia amid an increasingly unpredictable and unruly fight for power in the oil-rich South American nation.



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With so much media manipulation, it's really hard to understand the situation.
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I live half an hour from the border with Colombia, the situation was very unfortunate and full of impotence as they have burned humanitarian aid full of food and medicines.

Now we are in the hands of what the International Organizations can decide, both the Lima Group, the UN, where it is not understood, how a group that does not exceed 20 people manage to manipulate these prestigious organizations, even so, with the support of more of 50 Countries.

We have reached such a critical moment that dialogue will never allow us to reach a consensus where there is a solution to economic and humanitarian disaster.

Today in this State Wrestle, State Táchira the government cut off the supply of gasoline, only the military is granted, the State is taken on its border next to Prisoners and National Guards with Arms, where the last confrontation violated the sovereignty of Colombia , throwing tear gas bombs at La Parada (Cúcuta, Colombia).

This is interpreted as guera, in my opinion ... However in the South of the country they have massacred Pemones (Indigenous Group) that still remain.

The economic disaster of the country I do not see a clear solution, because in the traditional economy, has never taken into account an inflation that reaches figures close to 3,000,000% inflation.

Those of us who know about BITCOIN, and Cryptocurrencies see an outlet trading with this type of Free Economy, but the rest, they have left: leaving the country, many die of hunger, children die of hunger, old people die of hunger and if not it's like that, they die due to lack of medicines ...

I think that this climate, or that which is lived in Venezuela, is worse than a nightmare, because a country with reserves of oil, gold, precious stones, are being taken by a group of tyrants.

Honestly the picture is not very encouraging, because I think that at this moment they are deciding that the way of dialogue is the best, which is totally wrong.



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February 25, 2019, 07:12:38 PM
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I live half an hour from the border with Colombia, the situation was very unfortunate and full of impotence as they have burned humanitarian aid full of food and medicines.
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According to the footage mentioned by the other thread, the trucks burnt on Columbia soil and the fires were started by Molotov cocktails thrown from the direction of interior Columbia.

I would not say it was Colombians doing the throwing because there are a lot of different parties operating in Columbia at the moment.  And in Venezuela for that matter.

In short, the event matches well with what a lot of us were expecting.  Namely a false-flag event, or at least a generalized kerfuffle at the border staged to justify an invasion.  It's standard operating procedure in 'regime change' operations.


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February 25, 2019, 08:07:50 PM
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Richard Branson is a treasonous Blairite, and a friend of Obama. He is opposed to Brexit, and a supporter of the regime changes demanded by the globalists. You know that if he is supporting the George Washington University trained Guaido, then his suggestions will be far worse for Venezuela than the current situation under Maduro. The sanctions by the US are the major cause of the current problems, but things haven't been helped by the mismanagement of Maduro.

The US needs to remove sanctions, and stop trying to steal Venezuelan oil and gold. That would give the Venezuelan people a chance to rebuild their country, especially if they were able to elect a new leader who wasn't a globalist puppet. It would also help if the mainstream media stopped lying about political events.

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I live half an hour from the border with Colombia, the situation was very unfortunate and full of impotence as they have burned humanitarian aid full of food and medicines.
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According to the footage mentioned by the other thread, the trucks burnt on Columbia soil and the fires were started by Molotov cocktails thrown from the direction of interior Columbia.

I would not say it was Colombians doing the throwing because there are a lot of different parties operating in Columbia at the moment.  And in Venezuela for that matter.

In short, the event matches well with what a lot of us were expecting.  Namely a false-flag event, or at least a generalized kerfuffle at the border staged to justify an invasion.  It's standard operating procedure in 'regime change' operations.

What a bull of crap. Hundreds of thousands were watching the streamings live from several different media broadcasts and was clearly as I wrote:

4 Trucks started moving, all 4 entered Venezuela (it starts from the middle of the bridge, in case you also are ignorant about borders), after the first one started exiting the bridge, it was ambushed. "Police" and irregulars shot not caring there were 50 unarmed civilian (including women and children) on the truck, they fled back to Colombia, many wounded. At first they tried stealing the first truck that was left there but couldn't, then they set it on fire. Since that blocked the trucks behind they tried to set the others on fire as well, people defended using rocks making them flee back, but at least two caught fire, and the engine of the third. Part of the cargo from a 3rd one was hurriedly salvaged by the people there while under fire from "police" and the irregulars. the fourth truck was able to return.

In short: They ambushed, shot at innocent civilians, then burned the trucks carrying food and medicine, which is a severe crime under international law. Oh and when the civilians fled back into Colombia, they kept shooting towards Colombia. There are SEVERAL videos showing the aggression against Colombian soil, even Colombian Police is seen running away and taking cover. They don't just shoot cans (which can kill you when aimed horizontally at you, something which is forbidden by international law), they also replace the "rubber" shotgun pellets with glass marbles or nails, this has been Maduro's repression policy for the past 5 years. That is exactly how hundreds were killed just in the last few years, they simply took to the border the exact same thing they did to unarmed civilians in Caracas and other cities protesting the miserable conditions of life brought by socialism.

Those "irregular" (sometimes called "colectivos") is basically a militia of sorts. It is rumored they even use convicted prisoners in exchange of reducing their sentence. Those irregulars from Maduro were caught in the act of making the molotov bombs, and in fact one was captured and brought back to Colombian soil.

Here another "Lie". Maduro was getting interviewed, and it was shown "a lie", because if this insulted, he stopped the interview and left. Nothing wrong with that, except... He ordered the journalists detained, taken their belongings (and footage) and given a house arrest at an hotel then expelled.

In YOUR country you can say the things you want (except death threats) to your President, and you won't even get detained for that. But when socialists get in power they act worse than a monarch...

Univision's Jorge Ramos detained in Venezuela after Maduro interview, network says
Ramos told Univision that the offending line of questioning came when he showed Maduro images taken on Ramos’ phone of Venezuelans eating out of the trash to prove people were living a humanitarian crisis.

Ramos is arguably the best-known journalist in the Spanish-speaking world. He has gained particular notoriety for regularly locking horns with Donald Trump, who had him ejected from a press conference while on the campaign trail in 2015. The have since sparred over the US president’s proposed border wall among other contentious issues.

And here you can clearly see the difference between freedom and tyranny. Trump dismisses him while Maduro puts him under arrest and expels him.

Do you know what would have happened if they were Venezuelans journalists? (yes it has happened before). Of course you don't, for you everything is a "lie" because you don't live here and you haven't been into socialist hell. If they were Venezuelans they would be imprisoned by now, without anyone knowing, no lawyers or family, nothing, zero due process. Maybe in a year or two they get a mock up "trial" as an excuse to keep them imprisoned 5 or 10 more years. And wait until you learn the truth of Venezuelan prisons... They are hell on earth. Venezuela has thousands of political prisoners because socialism makes a crime to think something different. You instead, in your freedom capitalist country are allowed to poison people with socialist ideas...

Of course you'll never learn the truth and never care about the suffering of the Venezuelan people. To you defending your sacrosanct ideology comes first, and Maduro is "socialist" therefore your friend, while everyone else is a capitalist pig therefore your enemy. Because this is the materialistic garbage Marxists teach everyone, that a conflict is inevitable and only thru it would the "workers class liberate themselves"...

Media lie? I'm tired of watching people searching for food from the garbage. I could even set up a live stream if that wouldn't endanger myself. Socialism brought the worst living conditions in the history of this country, and has done the same anywhere else it was tried.

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February 26, 2019, 04:29:28 PM
Last edit: February 26, 2019, 04:59:42 PM by tvbcof
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Lol.  This is exactly both anticipated and believed I saw about Branson's fake-ass concert:

  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/venezuela-no-more-than-20000-people-came-to-bransons-concert-stunt.html

For a few more chuckles, WaPo tries to cover up their own fake new:

  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-24/wapo-secretly-deletes-bransons-venezuela-concert-article-after-fake-attendance

More and more, people are not wising to this kind of propaganda.

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This stuff, and what Max Blumenthal saw when he went to street markets in Caracas instead of a gocery store, I saw here:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q8acIRXLU8

Spoiler:  Max found plenty of toothpaste.  Enough to make me a little suspicious to be honest.  The TLAV piece also has info on the Colombian Molotov cocktails which caught the trucks on fire.

BTW, is the 777 guy saying that the truck loaded with women and children when they were sent across the boarder?  I actually would not put that past the propagandists, but I didn't see video documentary evidence of it.


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February 26, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
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I'm more worried that this would turn into a proxy war with China. China is eyeing the country as an additional source of oil and has already done deals with Maduro.
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