[275 weeks] [Updated Apr 20 LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own!

[LoyceV]

Update!

68. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h

Starting point to avoid loading this large index file: http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h/459836.html (mine).

The top navigation bar is still updating, but the last couple of weeks are finished already. BPIP has updated it's links to the latest version too, and is easier to navigate.

The culprit was an extension that I was using was blocking off my access to the site... It was the DuckDuckGo extension.

That's really weird

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1. theymos (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (62) 5484 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
I don't know if this has been discussed here before but, using Theymos as an example, What does the value (62) exactly represent?

[Last of the V8s]

It's how many other DT1's have him in their inclusion list. Same as the figures given here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview
The example you gave (62) must be a bit out of date.

[LoyceV]

It's how many other DT1's have him in their inclusion list.

Actually, it's inclusions minus exclusions.

The example you gave (62) must be a bit out of date.

It's from October last year. The current DT1 strength 56 matches dtview. BPIP shows the same (hover your mouse above "DT1").

It's also called DT Strenght, theymos' position on DT1 is supported by 62% of DT1-members.

[nutildah]

The culprit was an extension that I was using was blocking off my access to the site... It was the DuckDuckGo extension.

That's really weird

They rate your website a B+ in "privacy," and it blocks everything below an A. It's OK, don't be offended, I chose you over them.

[LoyceV]

They rate your website a B+ in "privacy," and it blocks everything below an A.

Loyce.club doesn't use cookies, and doesn't use social media tracking. The only reason I can think of is the lack of SSH, which is on my Todo list.
I don't think it is because of archiving posts.

It's OK, don't be offended

What's wrong with being offended?

I chose you over them.

[LoyceV]

Update:

69. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-09_Sat_05.05h

The top-navigation-bar is still updating.

Weekly starting point to avoid loading the large index file: Trust list for theymos.

[LoyceV]

Update:

70. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h

Starting point of the week to avoid loading the large index file: Lauda's Trust list.
I like the "Trust backstabbing", which could be the most sincere form of Trust:

Trust list for: Lauda (Trust: +33 / =6 / -4) (1615 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h)
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Lauda Trusts these users' judgement:
1. gmaxwell (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 2797 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (37) 4136 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Lauda's judgement is Distrusted by:
3. gmaxwell (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 2797 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (37) 4136 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

The top-navigation-bar is still updating. BPIP's links to my Trust list viewer are updated already for easy navigation.

[NeuroticFish]

I don't know if this was discussed until now, I've found myself already a couple of times surfing your lists to find out why I do (indirectly) trust this or that user (usually long gone users!).

It's clearly not a feature request, since last time I asked for WO "last week" viewer and I am sad (ashamed) to hear I am the only one using it now and then; so it's up to you if you find it worthy and add it or not.

So, back to the idea: it's not easy to go on the trust "tree" and pinpoint the possible weak links = people who most probably you would not actually trust, but they are trusted (also indirectly) by people added to your trust list. However, if the software knows who are you and who is the culprit, it should not be hard to find the "lines" of interest (not sure though how that could be displayed).

[LoyceV]

So, back to the idea: it's not easy to go on the trust "tree" and pinpoint the possible weak links = people who most probably you would not actually trust, but they are trusted (also indirectly) by people added to your trust list.

Aren't you just looking for your Trust list - Hierarchical view?
I've also made Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users a year ago, and last updated it half a year ago. I'm currently running an update, if my script still works it will probably take 2 days to generate a few GB of data.
Update: update done!

Trust lists quickly get very big because of this:

Custom Trust lists have large recursive implications because the users you trust directly (Depth 0) make you trust the ones they trust (Depth 1), and the users they trust (Depth 2)

[NeuroticFish]

I've also made Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users a year ago, and last updated it half a year ago. I'm currently running an update, if my script still works it will probably take 2 days to generate a few GB of data.

I don't know, that btalk feature doesn't work for me.
And your list, although comprehensive, doesn't help me much (I just extracted now a name from there for an example). The last version from http://loyce.club/trust/ is already the real thing.
And I think that creating a huge amount of extra data would not be the good direction. This would be more like "on the fly" data / response created from what you already have.

I will give you an example from my list.

Problem: why do I trust moe7865? (not a real problem, just an example)
What I do: going to http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h/, searching for the user, see who is trusting him, so:
. . . . . . . . . moe7865
. . . . . . . . . wlefever
worthyou - donalddraper - icon73
mickelody - . . . . . . .  . . - buckrogers

and in buckrogers' list I see yogg, which I know he's in my trust list.

So NeuroticFish - yogg - buckrogers - icon73 - wlefever - moe7865 is one chain.

[LoyceV]

I don't know, that btalk feature doesn't work for me.

Do you get a timeout on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full? For me, it takes a long time to load, but it works. If you set your default Trust Depth to more than 2, it may not load anymore.

And I think that creating a huge amount of extra data would not be the good direction. This would be more like "on the fly" data / response created from what you already have.

That's what the forum does, but there's just too much data to do it on the fly.

[NeuroticFish]

If you set your default Trust Depth to more than 2, it may not load anymore.

I've had it 3. I've changed it to 2 now.

And I think that creating a huge amount of extra data would not be the good direction. This would be more like "on the fly" data / response created from what you already have.

That's what the forum does, but there's just too much data to do it on the fly.

Hmm, I guess you're right.
However, I've changed to 2 and the Trust Depth could be of help next time.

Thank you.

[LoyceV]

Update:

71. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-23_Sat_05.03h

(large pages work better in Firefox than Chrome)

Starter to avoid loading this large index: hilariousandco's Trust list.

The top-navigation-bar wil be updated over the next hours.

I've updated my Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users (with last week's data). This is a great way to see the recursive implications of your Trust inclusions.

[LoyceV]

Update:

72. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-30_Sat_12.05h

Today's delay is caused by a username change that messed things up.

Shortcut to avoid loading the large index page: LoyceV's Trust list. Or use BPIP.

I noticed something slightly off:

Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (57) 5343 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-30_Sat_12.05h)
Trust list for: theymos (Trust: +30 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (57) 6814 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-30_Sat_12.05h)

In reality, theymos' DT1-strength is 58, and mine is 58 too. According to BPIP, there were no changes since the data dump. It turns out this is caused by another name change, I forgot to add TheBeardedBaby to my DT1-list. I'll run another update, the links above will be deleted in a couple of hours.
Update: it's fixed The top-navigation-bar will be updated in the coming hours.

@theymos: using usernames instead of userIDs in your weekly trust data dump is such a pain to deal with!

[LoyceV]

Full disclosure: I found an inaccuracy in my own profile:

Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (48) 3365 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-08-10_Sat_06.04h)
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I have only one neutral feedback rating from a DT-member, but since I left myself neutral feedback from "LoyceBot" (which I use for scraping), loyce.club shows 2 of them.

It took me long enough to think about this, but the fix is very easy: I just added ";dt" to each profile URL
Starting next Saturday, "LoyceV" should show with the correct amount of neutral feedback in my Trust list viewer.

[LoyceV]

Update:

Historic overview (the last entry is most recent)
73. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-06-06_Sat_05.05h

To avoid loading this large page, you can use either BPIP or my Trust list as a starting point.

The top-navigation-bar will be updated in the coming hours.

[Foxpup]

It seems peloso's been busy. Does he really expect that trusting people who distrust him is going make them stop distrusting him, or does he have some even more convoluted motive?

[LoyceV]

It seems peloso's been busy. Does he really expect that trusting people who distrust him is going make them stop distrusting him, or does he have some even more convoluted motive?

I was just wondering the same thing in another topic.

[LoyceV]

Update:

74. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-06-13_Sat_05.02h

As always, the top-navigation-bar will be updated the coming hours.

To avoid loading the large index file (use Firefox for it!), here's the Trust list of the week: Trust list for: gmaxwell.
BPIP hasn't updated it's link to my Trust list viewer yet. I expect it soon.