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October 15, 2019, 06:54:25 PM |
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Companies incorporated in Curaçao need to provide financial statements to its investors!
What investors? BET holders != shareholders. There was no ICO, and thus BET token is just like vouchers that can be either profitable or meaningless to hold. If there was ICO, then you can argue that they issued illegal security. Shareholders of a company are investors if they needed to invest money to become shareholder! dumb, dumber, mu_enrico!
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October 15, 2019, 07:03:23 PM |
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Shareholders of a company are investors if they needed to invest money to become shareholder! BET holders ain't investor, correct? So why are you here? Go ask financial statements from their shareholders. I might be dumb, but I'm smart enough to know that you are a scammer Sorry not triggered.
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October 15, 2019, 07:16:00 PM |
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Shareholders of a company are investors if they needed to invest money to become shareholder! BET holders ain't investor, correct? They got the BET fantasy tokens for free? I might be dumb, but I'm smart enough to know that you are a scammer Who did I scam? How did I scam? How much is the damage? Where is the proof?
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fullhdpixel
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October 16, 2019, 03:53:15 PM |
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GP still considers eosbet as a "corporation", dude misses the whole point that we are literally the owners of eosbet ourselves, sure the team has bet tokens as well but they literally have like 30% or whatever of the company (well there is 88 million total supply for bet token, team has like 40 million by now with the buy backs and what not I suppose).
How can someone try to ask for "accounting" from a blockchain based website is beyond my belief. Like is he really as ignorant as he is claiming to be? How can someone not know how to check the blockchain of a decentralized casino and see the accounting himself, its literally open to public, instead of asking for it here, he could just go check that out and see whats going on, how much is bet, how much is won and lost, how much dividend paid, EVERYTHING is there.
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October 16, 2019, 05:24:34 PM |
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GP still considers eosbet as a "corporation", dude misses the whole point that we are literally the owners of eosbet ourselves, sure the team has bet tokens as well but they literally have like 30% or whatever of the company (well there is 88 million total supply for bet token, team has like 40 million by now with the buy backs and what not I suppose). BREAKING NEWS!!!Low level signature spammers on bitcointalk.org are the owners of the eosbet.io investment fraud scheme!!! If you and other extremely mentally ill and or brain dead nonsense shit posters are the owner of eosbet.io, please show me your ownership contract? How can someone try to ask for "accounting" from a blockchain based website is beyond my belief. Like is he really as ignorant as he is claiming to be? How can someone not know how to check the blockchain of a decentralized casino and see the accounting himself, its literally open to public, instead of asking for it here, he could just go check that out and see whats going on, how much is bet, how much is won and lost, how much dividend paid, EVERYTHING is there.
Should I compare the tax declaration made in Curacao with the blockchain data? Oh wait, the blockchain data is anonymous and therefore is not valid as accounting!
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October 16, 2019, 07:18:59 PM |
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He hasn't stopped lol he really took his job seriously did he. The internet drama GP created in every thread here had really consumed his everyday life.
Anyway, when is this going to be added to new exchanges? There seem to have no other games added in EOSbet, I have been moving to different casinos because of it. Its more fun with other games black jack probably 21?
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October 17, 2019, 06:46:31 AM |
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Shareholders of a company are investors if they needed to invest money to become shareholder! BET holders ain't investor, correct? So why are you here? Go ask financial statements from their shareholders. I might be dumb, but I'm smart enough to know that you are a scammer Sorry not triggered. I still think bet token holders are "investors" in some sense depending on how they got it, if they gambled and got it then they may not be called investors, they still can be called investors but it all depends on why they gambled. If they gambled just because they wanted to gamble and had no intention to mine bet token then they could be considered not investors. So they basically got it for free, in any place of gambling you can gamble and not get anything in return, here you become part owner of the website when you gamble (that's still valid). However if you bought bet tokens on exchange and collecting dividends for it, then I am sorry but you are an investor, investors do have the right to ask whatever they want, people who are not investors like GP don't have any rights to ask, hell as you can see nobody gives him an answer to silly questions he has, go ahead GP ask accounting and whatever else you want, you are not getting it and nobody cares.
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October 17, 2019, 08:11:42 AM Last edit: October 17, 2019, 08:26:06 AM by o48o |
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GP still considers eosbet as a "corporation", dude misses the whole point that we are literally the owners of eosbet ourselves, sure the team has bet tokens as well but they literally have like 30% or whatever of the company (well there is 88 million total supply for bet token, team has like 40 million by now with the buy backs and what not I suppose).
How can someone try to ask for "accounting" from a blockchain based website is beyond my belief. Like is he really as ignorant as he is claiming to be? How can someone not know how to check the blockchain of a decentralized casino and see the accounting himself, its literally open to public, instead of asking for it here, he could just go check that out and see whats going on, how much is bet, how much is won and lost, how much dividend paid, EVERYTHING is there.
Not agreeing with game-protect on anything else (for obvious reasons), but we are not owners of eosbet. We have no say about how the site is being runned. We don't decide what games there are going to be or could decide how the smart contracts are being edited, or how should the original distribution should have been done. We literally have no control over it. Just because we can get part of dividends doesn't make us owners. For the longest time community wanted eosbet to list into newdex. If they had a vote, it would show up in somewhere. Owners on the other hand decided to list on elsewhere.
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October 17, 2019, 03:44:37 PM |
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Yep, "real investors" are protected by Law (or regulated). This BET token, like any other crypto tokens without ICO out there, operates in the grey area. Unlike shareholders, not sure (pretty unlikely) BET holders can demand financial statements, general meeting (AGM), etc.
BET token may or may not be securities since gamblers play and receive tokens for free. That's it, no bullshit. We are here not to argue about the legality and stuff about BET and various similar crypto tokens out there, but to play the game.
PS: "bitcointalk users still strongly believe that GP is a scammer."
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October 17, 2019, 04:44:03 PM |
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*snip* BET holders can demand financial statements, general meeting (AGM), etc. *snip*
Do you mean we could do this because it's our right by law? Of which country? And technicallt how exactly we could do this in? In the telegram? With an eos signed messages? Because we mostly are pseudonymous users on the chat, so how do we prove we are actual bet holders (or eosbet members) that are voting for this?
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October 17, 2019, 04:57:44 PM |
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Unlike shareholders, not sure (pretty unlikely) BET holders can demand financial statements, general meeting (AGM), etc.
My apologies for this misunderstanding. I should rephrase it to avoid confusion. BET holders are likely cannot demand financial statements, general meetings (AGM), etc., since BET holders are not equal to shareholders. Thanks for the correction.
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October 17, 2019, 06:21:20 PM |
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He hasn't stopped lol he really took his job seriously did he. The internet drama GP created in every thread here had really consumed his everyday life.
Anyway, when is this going to be added to new exchanges? There seem to have no other games added in EOSbet, I have been moving to different casinos because of it. Its more fun with other games black jack probably 21?
That's the funny part, dude must be either a very young kid that has no need for money at all, or he has to be someone reaaaaally poor (well he is poor we know that, he requested 210 euro because he couldn't pay for something, a guy who can't afford 210 euro to defend gamblers from evil casinos.... riiiiiiight) because he spends all his time here, I mean if he had a real job it would be over already with the time he puts into these things. The really sad part is, nobody cares, he finds some customers here and there and manages to scam them as well as he can but at the end of the day none of those numbers are big enough to survive or a livable wage, so he is basically doing this for almost free, if he used all this time for something else he would have made a ton of money already.
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October 18, 2019, 07:07:28 AM |
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The price seems to be doing alright but the casino is getting worse and worse. People used to gamble so they could get bet tokens in return and now that they can actually buy it the number got really low. I mean when they gambled to make bet tokens there was a lot of dividends as well but with the bet token purchasing the number got lower so people stopped investing as well, it got all downhill since the binance deal.
I have ALWAYS said that marketing should focus on gambling itself and not the dividends, now that we have spent years on dividend marketing, people like the bet token idea but don't want to gamble here at all. Have you seen the latest version of the chat? There are like 3 messages in 5 hours, it is looking like a total joke, there is literally no one talking there.
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October 18, 2019, 11:13:55 AM |
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The price seems to be doing alright but the casino is getting worse and worse. Yes, 60% loss from ATH is doing alriiiiiight! All-Time-High (ATH) Price $ 0.149 (23 Sep 2019) Ƀ 0.0000173 (7 Oct 2019) Ξ 0.000791 (7 Oct 2019) From ATH: -60.0% Source: https://cryptorank.io/currencies/eos-bet-token/price-chartPeople used to gamble so they could get bet tokens in return and now that they can actually buy it the number got really low. Yes, gamblers lost 70% since the BET fantasy token was listed on Binance! I mean when they gambled to make bet tokens there was a lot of dividends as well but with the bet token purchasing the number got lower so people stopped investing as well, it got all downhill since the binance deal. How much was the dividend prior to Binance deal and how much is the dividend since Binance deal? I have ALWAYS said that marketing should focus on gambling itself and not the dividends, now that we have spent years on dividend marketing, people like the bet token idea but don't want to gamble here at all. Have you seen the latest version of the chat? How exactly can an one year old casino spent years on marketing There are like 3 messages in 5 hours, it is looking like a total joke, there is literally no one talking there. Yes, EOSBet is a joke!
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October 18, 2019, 02:07:10 PM |
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*snip* There are like 3 messages in 5 hours, it is looking like a total joke, there is literally no one talking there.
Their website chat has always been a ghost town and will be until they use "rain" incentive option like many other sites do. People have always been using their telegram for chitchat. And this forum for more complex questions it seems.
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October 20, 2019, 04:51:41 PM |
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*snip* There are like 3 messages in 5 hours, it is looking like a total joke, there is literally no one talking there.
Their website chat has always been a ghost town and will be until they use "rain" incentive option like many other sites do. People have always been using their telegram for chitchat. And this forum for more complex questions it seems. Yeah most chat is in their telegram and they provide very fast support to everybody that needs it!
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game-protect
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October 20, 2019, 07:42:10 PM |
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Where is the accounting since 16 September 2019 until today?
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ryzaadit
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October 24, 2019, 05:02:59 AM |
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Where is the accounting since 16 September 2019 until today?
Do you want to see them? I make some tutorials if you looking for them. [1] Download Telegram PC/Smartphone. [2] Register with Phone Number [3] Join EOSBET Telegram Community. [4] Finaly you meet them. For what you looking for them, if they respond you just wasting a lot resource only for you. Better spend your time with hans problem xD.
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RealMalatesta
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October 24, 2019, 08:30:10 AM |
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*snip* There are like 3 messages in 5 hours, it is looking like a total joke, there is literally no one talking there.
Their website chat has always been a ghost town and will be until they use "rain" incentive option like many other sites do. People have always been using their telegram for chitchat. And this forum for more complex questions it seems. Why would they want people to use telegram (or even here) when they have a chat that they can use. It doesn't really mean rainbot would have too much affect, it is not really that much effective when you have maybe 100 messages total in 24 hour span. Ignore that game-protect dude, he has no idea what he is talking about with the way he criticizes the website, he doesn't know WHAT should be criticized about this place. To me, as a real user that has both bet tokens and also gambled here and now an investor, I feel like lack of marketing and lack of messages on the chat and activity around the website is the real trouble. If they keep market the dividends and forget that they are actually a casino and not promote the casino part, we gonna have less and less gambling for sure (or fake volume by the team I suppose), so we should start getting more and more marketing on the CASINO part as well.
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October 24, 2019, 10:45:20 AM Last edit: October 24, 2019, 11:15:50 AM by game-protect |
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Where is the accounting since 16 September 2019 until today?
Do you want to see them? I make some tutorials if you looking for them. [1] Download Telegram PC/Smartphone. [2] Register with Phone Number [3] Join EOSBET Telegram Community. [4] Finaly you meet them. For what you looking for them, if they respond you just wasting a lot resource only for you. Better spend your time with hans problem xD. The accounting since 16 September until today is published on Telegram? If so, please copy it and post it here? 23 September the value of the BET fantasy token suddenly dropped 60% and one month later it is still 60% loss!!! All-Time-High (ATH) Price $ 0.149 (23 Sep 2019) Ƀ 0.0000173 (7 Oct 2019) Ξ 0.000791 (7 Oct 2019) From ATH: -60%Source: https://cryptorank.io/currencies/eos-bet-token/price-chartWe need to investigate why the value lost 60% within few hours and remained so low since one month?
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