What do you think, will running a site like this be profitable ?

[clouddreaming]

What do you think, will running a site like this be profitable ?

this is the website : https://afreething.000webhostapp.com

We ask users to hash the seeds they type themselves plus the seed server that we keep secret up to 1 round (currently 1 week) and add additional seed in the form of a 5 (last) characters generated from MD5 hashing from the username and IP address.

I illustrate the following:

a user with username jossiel did a hash from IP address 123.456.789 with the user seed he types jossielcool
current server seed: abcdefghij (not the real current server seed)

here is the hash calculation of the 4 components above:

first we announce the MD5 hash from the server seed on the announcement button

then we hash the username and last 5 characters from the IP Address with MD5 algorithm.
jossiel6.789 = a179d46727e6d7d52f2f142c21204089
then we hash user seed, server seed and 5 characters of the hash results of jossiel6.789 with MD5 algorithm.

the next format will be like this:

[user seed] [server seed] [MD5 hash of username and last 5 characters of IP Address]

jossielcoolabcdefghij04089 = a9aec968195febbe01cf872ae3604f26

then we take the first 10 characters of MD5 hash jossielcoolabcdefghij04089
we get this hexadecimal number: a9aec96819

then we convert the number to a decimal number.
and now we get numbers : 728781907993

then we divide the number by 10995116.27775

and now we get the number: 66282.3284068202

and one more step, this is the last step
we round the number to the closest integer :

66282

so the jossiel's hash number is 66282

10 results of the user's hash will be displayed on the TOP HASH page, but you must log in to access this page.

to do the above calculation we provide the MD5 Generator page :
https://afreething.000webhostapp.com/md5hashgenerator.php
This page can be accessed without logging in.

but if you are unsure about our MD5 Hash Generator, you can use MD5 Hash Generator elsewhere
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the highest hash possibility of this HASH GAME is 100000
because the highest 10 digit hexadecimal number is FFFFFFFFFF (1099511627775)

1099511627775/10995116.27775 = 100000
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the winner of this HASH GAME is the user with the highest hash number at the end of the period.

Hash Game Reward Distribution :

# Total reward is half of the total revenue from advertising and and our investment program.

# We will divide the total reward into 2 parts, the First Part is 2/3 or 66.66% of the total reward and the Second Part is 1/3 or 33.33% of the total reward. The first part will be distributed to the winners and the second part to the referrer of the winners.

# The user at position 1 on the TOP HASH page will get 50% of the First Part. The user in position 2 will get 50% of the reward obtained by the user in position 1, the user in position 3 will get 50% of the reward obtained by the user in position 2 and so on.

# One user and one bitcoin address can only get 1 position with reward, if there is 1 user who gets more than 1 position with reward then the highest position we will take.

# Not determined the number of positions that will get a reward.

# the smallest reward at the last position that gets a reward is 0.00010000 BTC.

# We can change all the rules if needed. If we change something on this site, we will announce it on the announcement button

but we also have rules, which state that when we consider the reward for the user to be too small, we have the right to delay the distribution of rewards for the next one period.
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if my explanation is still confusing, don't hesitate to ask me

Thank you
 

[jossiel]

By looking at the URL, I'll never going to click that. Can you give more of the description about that website?

[Potato Chips]

Not gonna lie, the subdomain doesn't look pleasant in the eyes. If you wanna earn, you need to make everything professional looking and that means spending money upfront, avoid any free web hosting service.

and yes, please just explain your business model in through details here. you'll be able to gather more opinions that way.

[encycrypto]

What do you think, will running a site like this be profitable ?

this is the website : https://afreething.000webhostapp.com

000webhostapp? You kidding me? I'm looking at that domain name after like 10 years (yes, my first website was made using that service and subdomain name). Trust me, you will never be able to get any traffic to such subdomain.

[sheenshane]

What do you think, will running a site like this be profitable ?

this is the website : https://afreething.000webhostapp.com

To tell you frankly mate your website its looks like unprofessional because of the subdomain and Potato Chips was right. Try to purchase a domain name for your website for sure maybe you can convince people and driving traffic very well, and make a profit.

Try to search on google where to purchase a domain name and spend some amount of money for a domain of your website that looks good.

[shield132]

What do you think, will running a site like this be profitable ?

this is the website : https://afreething.000webhostapp.com

To tell you frankly mate your website its looks like unprofessional because of the subdomain and Potato Chips was right. Try to purchase a domain name for your website for sure maybe you can convince people and driving traffic very well, and make a profit.

Try to search on google where to purchase a domain name and spend some amount of money for a domain of your website that looks good.

Wait, before hosting he has to learn at least html/css because what I see here is white backround with some texts, looks very awful. Also can't understand what we have to rate, domain/template = catastrophe. If you want us to rate idea, then I would say that faucets don't work anymore, even it's very hard for freebitco to gain enough attention, at least they were hugely popular some years ago.

[harizen]

It's on test mode so using a free hosting is just fine because the main point was getting feedback first at the community (if that is really OP's purpose).

But OP if you will go for LIVE, you need to put an effort of having your own domain + of course the basic design and layouts.

Anyways about your main concern, you need to tell us the details/featured of the site. Don't want to sign up there just to see the inside stuff.

"WIN FREE BITCOIN EVERY WEEK!" - is somehow a questionable banner. It's already telling us now how risky it is.

[Lassie]

What do you think, will running a site like this be profitable ?

this is the website : https://afreething.000webhostapp.com

Not much information provided so I'm afraid I will not try to click the link as it is only freehosting, who knows if what kind of data it will collect from us. Also please try to put some effort on creating a thread specially if you are asking for something so people will take you seriously

[leowonderful]

Meh. The entire site seems very basic, clicked on it and the registration process was about what you'd expect from any site. If you plan on launching this site, though, I would suggest allowing users to actually view the site and what it's about instead of forcing a login and/or registration for new users, as I would've just left this site upon viewing the initial page if I didn't have the intention of reviewing it.

It may also just be me, but I have no idea what this site is about at all from reading the "How it Works" page. I'm still not sure how to generate a seed to actually enter the game; perhaps a simpler how-to page could be made.

[elda34b]

Seems like this is a daily lottery site where you'll pick random address to give them Bitcoin. Tbh, it sounds too good to be true and you don't explain how you get that Bitcoin. Let's say you plan to add ads, so every day user must visit some site while you earn from that. But it stills doesn't sound so convincing. What if you use the email data for your own purpose, like selling it? It's risky for users I believe, and maybe only those who doesn't care about their own safety will use this.

[clouddreaming]

beforehand, thank you for your attention sir !

By looking at the URL, I'll never going to click that.

yes and that is natural.
I think most people will think so and that's why so many people get fooled in the world of cryptocurrency.
Most people only see from the look and design of amazing websites without thinking of where they will make money.
but again, that is very reasonable.
When you will visit someone's house, of course, you will see his house front yard first.

Can you give more of the description about that website?

We ask users to hash the seeds they type themselves plus the seed server that we keep secret up to 1 round (currently 1 week) and add additional seed in the form of a 5 (last) characters generated from MD5 hashing from the username and IP address.

I illustrate the following:

a user with username jossiel did a hash from IP address 123.456.789 with the user seed he types jossielcool
current server seed: abcdefghij (not the real current server seed)

here is the hash calculation of the 4 components above:

first we announce the MD5 hash from the server seed on the announcement button

then we hash the username and last 5 characters from the IP Address with MD5 algorithm.
jossiel6.789 = a179d46727e6d7d52f2f142c21204089
then we hash user seed, server seed and 5 characters of the hash results of jossiel6.789 with MD5 algorithm.

the next format will be like this:

[user seed] [server seed] [MD5 hash of username and last 5 characters of IP Address]

jossielcoolabcdefghij04089 = a9aec968195febbe01cf872ae3604f26

then we take the first 10 characters of MD5 hash jossielcoolabcdefghij04089
we get this hexadecimal number: a9aec96819

then we convert the number to a decimal number.
and now we get numbers : 728781907993

then we divide the number by 10995116.27775

and now we get the number: 66282.3284068202

and one more step, this is the last step
we round the number to the closest integer :

66282

so the jossiel's hash number is 66282

10 results of the user's hash will be displayed on the TOP HASH page, but you must log in to access this page.

to do the above calculation we provide the MD5 Generator page :
https://afreething.000webhostapp.com/md5hashgenerator.php
This page can be accessed without logging in.

but if you are unsure about our MD5 Hash Generator, you can use MD5 Hash Generator elsewhere
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the highest hash possibility of this HASH GAME is 100000
because the highest 10 digit hexadecimal number is FFFFFFFFFF (1099511627775)

1099511627775/10995116.27775 = 100000
--------------------------------------------------------------------
the winner of this HASH GAME is the user with the highest hash number at the end of the period.

Hash Game Reward Distribution :

# Total reward is half of the total revenue from advertising and and our investment program.

# We will divide the total reward into 2 parts, the First Part is 2/3 or 66.66% of the total reward and the Second Part is 1/3 or 33.33% of the total reward. The first part will be distributed to the winners and the second part to the referrer of the winners.

# The user at position 1 on the TOP HASH page will get 50% of the First Part. The user in position 2 will get 50% of the reward obtained by the user in position 1, the user in position 3 will get 50% of the reward obtained by the user in position 2 and so on.

# One user and one bitcoin address can only get 1 position with reward, if there is 1 user who gets more than 1 position with reward then the highest position we will take.

# Not determined the number of positions that will get a reward.

# the smallest reward at the last position that gets a reward is 0.00010000 BTC.

# We can change all the rules if needed. If we change something on this site, we will announce it on the announcement button

but we also have rules, which state that when we consider the reward for the user to be too small, we have the right to delay the distribution of rewards for the next one period.
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if my explanation is still confusing, don't hesitate to ask me

Thank you
 

[eternalgloom]

Look, the concept itself can work, but you are obviously going to need a better website than this one.
It's basically some sort of lottery game, I'm sure that similar games exist.

Are you going to be providing users with a provably fair system?
How much budget do you have to promote this service and for a decent design of your website?

Those are pretty important factors in determining if your idea could be profitable or not.

[clouddreaming]

Not gonna lie, the subdomain doesn't look pleasant in the eyes. If you wanna earn, you need to make everything professional looking and that means spending money upfront, avoid any free web hosting service.

and yes, please just explain your business model in through details here. you'll be able to gather more opinions that way.

Thank you for your honesty and advice
and yes, I did find some ideas and opinions here

000webhostapp? You kidding me? I'm looking at that domain name after like 10 years (yes, my first website was made using that service and subdomain name). Trust me, you will never be able to get any traffic to such subdomain.

Oh, I see
but we get a little traffic.
even some people come back to play.

To tell you frankly mate your website its looks like unprofessional because of the subdomain and Potato Chips was right. Try to purchase a domain name for your website for sure maybe you can convince people and driving traffic very well, and make a profit.

Try to search on google where to purchase a domain name and spend some amount of money for a domain of your website that looks good.

yes she was right
and thank you for your advice
we need a lot of advice

Wait, before hosting he has to learn at least html/css because what I see here is white backround with some texts, looks very awful. Also can't understand what we have to rate, domain/template = catastrophe.

yes you are absolutely right, we made a very awful website design
but we will try to do better

about background color, do you have a suggestion, what color should we use ?

If you want us to rate idea, then I would say that faucets don't work anymore, even it's very hard for freebitco to gain enough attention, at least they were hugely popular some years ago.

actually this is not a faucet and also not gambling
this is more like the hashing process in bitcoin mining.
when you mine bitcoin you will be asked to get a very low hash value from the previous block header plus nonce and match the difficulty level set by the network every 2016 block (around 2 weeks)

Well, the difference is that we ask for the highest hash value with the mechanism as we explained above.
we don't use nonce and instead we use the username plus the last 5 characters from the IP Address.
We think that it is enough to give uniqueness to the hash value generated.
But this makes it possible for someone to create same hash value as the previous day if he typed the same user seed.
We are worried that when someone gets a very high hash value and occupies the top position he will repeat his user seed and take several positions in one competition period, therefore we set a rule stating that every 1 username can only get 1 position with prizes.

[Slow death]

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do the following:

1-) have a short domain name that makes it easy for people to memorize

2-) make a site that is beautiful and captivates people's attention

3-) make a video explaining all details of how your idea works and post these video on your site

4-) create an ANN Thread in this forum

[clouddreaming]

"WIN FREE BITCOIN EVERY WEEK!" - is somehow a questionable banner. It's already telling us now how risky it is.

the biggest risk is that you will lose less than 1 minute of your time each time you try.

Not much information provided so I'm afraid I will not try to click the link as it is only freehosting, who knows if what kind of data it will collect from us. Also please try to put some effort on creating a thread specially if you are asking for something so people will take you seriously

the only data we collect is your IP Address, but it will be deleted from our database after 1 round of the hashing competition is complete.

[clouddreaming]

Meh. The entire site seems very basic, clicked on it and the registration process was about what you'd expect from any site. If you plan on launching this site, though, I would suggest allowing users to actually view the site and what it's about instead of forcing a login and/or registration for new users, as I would've just left this site upon viewing the initial page if I didn't have the intention of reviewing it.

Thank you very much for this post
You made us think of making a Tesnet version page.

It may also just be me, but I have no idea what this site is about at all from reading the "How it Works" page. I'm still not sure how to generate a seed to actually enter the game; perhaps a simpler how-to page could be made.

user seed is generated manually by the user, so user typed manually on the blank input that we have provided.
our intention is that the value of the generated hash number is determined by the user.
 

[pooya87]

i have two questions.
1. why use MD5? why not use SHA256 which is also safer and just as fast?
2. why such a complicated process? it can be simplified by a lot. for example the following part is completely unnecessary:

then we take the first 10 characters of MD5 hash jossielcoolabcdefghij04089
we get this hexadecimal number: a9aec96819
then we convert the number to a decimal number.
and now we get numbers : 728781907993
then we divide the number by 10995116.27775
and now we get the number: 66282.3284068202
and one more step, this is the last step
we round the number to the closest integer :

the whole process can be like this:
1. take the inputs (meaning user seed and whatever else you want to append to it.
2. perform hash on it. eg. MD5 or SHA256
3. now you have the number which you can compare.
you don't even need to convert it to a number. you just compare two hexadecimal values or actually compare the byte array results of the hash function which is even faster.

[clouddreaming]

Seems like this is a daily lottery site where you'll pick random address to give them Bitcoin.

yes, this is indeed like a free lottery but we prefer to analogize it with the bitcoin mining process because often lottery sites tend to hide things when they offer something free.
we do not hide anything here, even in the future we plan to publish all revenue from advertising. If you ask why we don't publish now, our answer is that if we publish now it will be even more inconclusive for everyone.

Tbh, it sounds too good to be true and you don't explain how you get that Bitcoin. Let's say you plan to add ads, so every day user must visit some site while you earn from that. But it stills doesn't sound so convincing.

how the ads work is not always like that, some ads companies pay only per impression.
and yes, something that is very easy often does not convince people but it is natural.
Our hope is that later people will start to believe when we start making payments to users.

What if you use the email data for your own purpose, like selling it? It's risky for users I believe, and maybe only those who doesn't care about their own safety will use this.

We do not collect personal information such as e-mails, cellphone numbers and other information, even we do not embed cookies in the user's browser.
the only information we collect is the user's IP Address and it will be deleted from our database after 1 round of hashing competition ends. IP addresses also cannot be sold, because we all know that most ISPs around the world are Dynamic ISPs, where IP addresses are used continuously alternately between those ISP customers.
 

[clouddreaming]

Look, the concept itself can work, but you are obviously going to need a better website than this one.
It's basically some sort of lottery game, I'm sure that similar games exist.

thank you

after you tried 1 Hash Game on our site, I am sure you will think this is different.
but if you believe there is something similar out there, please let me know where, so I can improve some things to make this site more unique.

Are you going to be providing users with a provably fair system?

yes, but with our own version of the "provably fair" system which we think will be easier for everyone to understand later.

How much budget do you have to promote this service and for a decent design of your website?
Those are pretty important factors in determining if your idea could be profitable or not.

we don't want to answer this, sorry
as we all know we still use free subdomain.

do the following:

1-) have a short domain name that makes it easy for people to memorize

2-) make a site that is beautiful and captivates people's attention

3-) make a video explaining all details of how your idea works and post these video on your site

4-) create an ANN Thread in this forum

 
Thank you for your advice
we have an ANN Thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103158.0
 

[clouddreaming]

i have two questions.
1. why use MD5? why not use SHA256 which is also safer and just as fast?

in this case the use of the algorithm is not for security purposes, but to generate a unique hash for all users.
so, MD5 or SHA-256 will work the same way.
but if later many people suggest replacing MD5 with SHA-256, we will consider replacing it.

2. why such a complicated process? it can be simplified by a lot. for example the following part is completely unnecessary:

then we take the first 10 characters of MD5 hash jossielcoolabcdefghij04089
we get this hexadecimal number: a9aec96819
then we convert the number to a decimal number.
and now we get numbers : 728781907993
then we divide the number by 10995116.27775
and now we get the number: 66282.3284068202
and one more step, this is the last step
we round the number to the closest integer :

with the process that we are implementing now, it is still possible for someone to produce 7 times the same Hash Number in 1 round of competition, even though only 1 is valid because we set additional rules relating to it.

the whole process can be like this:
1. take the inputs (meaning user seed and whatever else you want to append to it.
2. perform hash on it. eg. MD5 or SHA256
3. now you have the number which you can compare.
you don't even need to convert it to a number. you just compare two hexadecimal values or actually compare the byte array results of the hash function which is even faster.

if everyone understands like you, maybe it will work, but our users may be from many backgrounds where they are not friendly to hexadecimal numbers.
we try to make it more friendly to everyone, so we need to convert the hexadecimal number to decimal so that it can be better understood by many people.