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January 30, 2019, 07:55:48 PM
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  Quoting someone could be to make reference to what the person had said or written.
This is helpful in the sense it directed at the issue you about to render your opinion on.
But when the quote button is misused it could become an eye sore and make any post untidy.

Here is a long post made by a user
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103925.0
In this post you would notice some members quoting the whole post and some of the reply are not just important and really unnecessary

Simple and neat way to make a quote.
You can just quote a user and clear the message to the particular message you want to point out this would give readers a clearer view of your reply.
Or you can clear the whole message leaving the quote empty or adding a snip or bracket signifying you are quoting the whole post.

This simple method can make a post look neat and attractive to readers.

Misuse of quote is another form of spamming and should be frowned on
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January 30, 2019, 07:59:41 PM
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As I have posted many times, I am prone to put people on ignore for excessive quoting.

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January 30, 2019, 08:07:37 PM
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As I have posted many times, I am prone to put people on ignore for excessive quoting.
This is a good idea and it would help you personally from bumping into misuse of quote but still the menace would not leave the forum.
It's most times done my newbies and a good orientation would help save a user from being a quote abuser or a spammer let's also consider the forum
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January 30, 2019, 08:08:49 PM
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Many spammers use the quote button simple to bump the topic, especially in ANN threads
Those users should always be reported for bumping, if many people report they will probably get banned.

In the case you mentioned they are only spammers I believe, not bumpers

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January 30, 2019, 08:13:28 PM
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OP maybe you need to add this quote as a motivation for those spam quoting to stop. I advocate keeping good posting record and knowing how to quote post is one of them.

Here's the quote:
What you guys don't seem to realise is that volume readers, such as merit sources, don't have the time to read long posts, unless they are interesting of course. If I see a post with a long quote, or a quote pyramid, then I just skip to the next post, so  the poster does't get his post read. This may be fine if you are a bounty spammer, and you don't care if nobody reads your comments, but if you are after merits, then you are killing your chances.

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January 30, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
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I don't think most of them care - they just want to pump out voluminous looking posts.

but don't quote me on that. Smiley

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January 30, 2019, 11:05:09 PM
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I particularly got so fond of this way of quoting long posts, well thanks to DmrDmr  Grin

Back to the point, quoting long posts is usually done by people who care less about the forum so long as they have filled up their weekly quoting quota for signatures...
As someone said before me, other's are just after bumping the thread.

What surprises me is you even see full member and senior member chaps doing such things. After all that time in the forum, it clearly shows you that such people aren't really what the bitcoin community was intended to be.

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January 31, 2019, 06:34:16 AM
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I also think just putting an @and the name of the user you quoting can also help to prevent huge quote pyramid.
Your audience would still understand that you are making reference to a particular persons reply
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January 31, 2019, 07:03:30 AM
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I also think just putting an @and the name of the user you quoting can also help to prevent huge quote pyramid.
Your audience would still understand that you are making reference to a particular persons reply

Combined with piggy mentions tool, using @xxxx is probably a better choice. But quoting can be used to show which point you exactly replied to.

What surprises me is you even see full member and senior member chaps doing such things. After all that time in the forum, it clearly shows you that such people aren't really what the bitcoin community was intended to be.

I'm not surprised tbh. There's someone who just cares about getting money after all, and they don't care about post quality, as long as the BM count it. So maybe the BM is to blame here? If any BM judged post as reputable managers did, they won't get paid, I'm sure.

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January 31, 2019, 08:16:34 AM
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Exactly.
That is the reason why I created the topic months ago.
Tips for avoiding pyramid quotes
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January 31, 2019, 11:06:11 AM
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I don't think most of them care - they just want to pump out voluminous looking posts.

but don't quote me on that. Smiley
This is just to comply number of post as per required by the bounty managers. There is no quality post already on this kind of reply making an opinion that is only pointing out a certain sentence in the topic being relied.

I had been seeing it more in the spam threads and it does not feel comfortable reading in the likes of those replies.
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February 01, 2019, 05:05:34 PM
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I'm not surprised tbh. There's someone who just cares about getting money after all, and they don't care about post quality, as long as the BM count it. So maybe the BM is to blame here? If any BM judged post as reputable managers did, they won't get paid, I'm sure.
Some bounty manager are also just interested in the fact that you wearing there signature and you are meeting up with the weekly commitment regardless of the quality of the job

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February 01, 2019, 05:15:31 PM
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Reporting such posts is the best alternative, especially if it adds nothing of value to the thread. Users who misuse the quote feature or any other posting feature, or those who post multiple times in roll mostly do not hang around Meta.
Report the post and the moderators would handle it and clean up the thread.

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February 02, 2019, 12:07:25 AM
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Missuse of quote button is very annoying thing. For example, someone quotes ANN with all images and just drop generic sentence after full quote. If you you're quoting long text, it would be better to remove irrelevant parts of text. Another annoying thing - pyramid quotes.
But I think it's not problem of new members only. Many high ranked users also missusing quote button. Even I did these mistakes not so long time ago - I quoted full OP, made pyramid quotes and etc. I didn't cared much about how my posts looks, because I saw majority of users doing same thing. I only realised that such quoting is annoying after release of Merit system by reading all these guides how to get Merit. And I think that now posting culture increased a bit and hope that posting etiquette will continue to improve into positive side.

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February 02, 2019, 01:41:26 AM
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I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.

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February 02, 2019, 04:02:48 AM
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In the case you mentioned they are only spammers I believe, not bumpers

Exactly, because these spammers would never mind reading the whole post, they just automatically quote and make a reply.
If they would only ready, they would have not quote the whole post but only those who are just relevant to their replies.

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February 02, 2019, 05:10:52 AM
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I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.
There is no way it can be banned as it has it can also serve a good purpose,especially on a post with multiple pages,its cool in such threads to probably quote an entire text,if you'll be reacting to all of it
Where the issue is, happens to be full quotes on the first or second page,and most annoyingly on the 1st reply,it just makes things look childish and it'll be appreciated of individuals who do such would really grow up and do the right thing



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February 02, 2019, 05:28:02 AM
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--snip--

You can just snip it like that, users who are already reading,already know the earlier post and they do not need to see it again. If somebody jumped in middle of thread, then that user can reach to that desired post by the link .

I visited another forum based in SMF, they do not allow multiquotes.

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February 02, 2019, 05:20:46 PM
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I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.
Ban, it is unrealistic suggestion.
However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.
Jet Cash proposed about it in another topic.
By now, I known that the forum has only report for spamming posts, repeatedly posts with same contents around.
I wish that in the future, theymos will expand reports on pyramid quotes.
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February 02, 2019, 09:02:59 PM
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However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.
Jet Cash proposed about it in another topic.
Red tag for posting pyramid quotes? I hope you're not serious. It would be misuse of trust system. Ok, such quotes are really annoying, but that's all. Users don't deserved to be red tagged just because they don't know posting etiquette...

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