Grin | Cuckoo POW | Benchmarking from c29 to c31 | Everything you need to know

[Cryptotourist]

The reason for creating this thread, is to keep everything in one single spot.
All the info is out there, but it's all over the place, making it difficult to track.
I will be updating/editing this page, as we go along from the c29 to the c31 algorithm, and until ASIC's are fully implemented during the next two years.

Current block rewards are set to 90% for c29, and 10% for c31.
Any corrections, additions or suggestions are very very welcome.


  


Basic info

• Announcement
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090427.0
  *. What to see: Intro, mining, bits & pieces.
  
• Grin Observer
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102334.0
  *. What to see: Price speculation, pumping & dumping mumbo jumbo.
  
• Listed on
  CoinMarketCap, Coingecko, coinlib, coincodex, cmc.io, bitgur, coinpaprika, NEIRONIX, coincost, WorldCoinIndex, CryptoSlate.
  *. Only working ones.
  
• Traded on
  Hotbit, KuCoin, Gate.io, TradeOgre, Bitforex, Bibox, Bittrex, Poloniex, Trade.io.
  *. GRIN/BTC pairs only.
  https://coinalyze.net/grin-live-price-charts/
  
• Grin ATH/ATL
  ATH: 0.00869962 BTC ~ $31.21 on 17/01/2019
  ATL: 0.00065515 BTC ~ $2.31 on 21/01/2019
  *. Source: Coingecko. Not considering the first day.
  

  


Extra info

• Pools
  
  • https://miningpoolstats.stream/grin-c29
    
  • https://miningpoolstats.stream/grin-c31
    *. Consider spreading the G/s power.
    
       Recommended
  
  • https://www.f2pool.com/
    
  • https://www.sparkpool.com/?timstamp=none
    *. Subject to change. Everything factored in.
    
• GPU Mining
        Official
  
  • Bminer
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2519271.0;topicseen
    https://www.bminer.me/releases/
    *. Windows, NVDIA, both c31, c29 supported.
    
  • GGM (Grin Gold Miner)
    https://github.com/mozkomor/GrinGoldMiner/releases
    https://grinpro.io/
    *. Windows, NVDIA & AMD, c29 only.
    
  • Minerbabe
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097527.0;topicseen
    https://www.minerbabe.com/pc.html/#/
    https://github.com/mcarloai/minerbabe-grin-miner
    *. Linux. Windows users only need to boot from USB key. Both c31, c29 supported.
    
  • Grin Miner
    https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin-miner/releases
    *. Linux, NVDIA & AMD, both c31, c29 supported.
    
       Unofficial**
  
  • GMiner
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034735.0;topicseen
    *. Windows, NVDIA, both c31, c29 supported.
    
  • NBMiner
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099379.0
    https://github.com/NebuTech/NBMiner/releases
    *. Windows & Linux, NVDIA, c29 only.
    
  • CryptoDredge
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4807821.0
    https://github.com/technobyl/CryptoDredge/releases
    *. Windows, NVDIA, c29 only.
    
  • Ace Grin Miner
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097693.0;topicseen
    *. Windows, NVDIA & AMD, c29 only.
    **. These miners appear not to be giving anything back to the community, for nothing much in return.
    
       Recommended
  
  • Bminer for Windows, c29, NVDIA.
    
  • Minerbabe for Linux, c31, NVDIA & AMD.
    
  • GMiner for Windows, c29 & c31 NVDIA.
    
  • Grin Miner for Linux , c31, NVDIA & AMD.
    
• Calculators
  
  • https://whattomine.com/coins
    
  • https://grin-pool.org/what-to-mine/
    
  • https://www.coincalculators.io/coin.aspx?crypto=grin-mining-calculator
    
  • https://www.coincalculators.io/coin.aspx?crypto=grin_31-mining-calculator
    
  • https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/grin/mining_calculator#panel
    
  • http://grin.luxor.tech/statistics
    
• Stats
  
  • https://grinscan.net/charts
    
  • https://github.com/mimblewimble/docs/wiki/GPU-Mining-Stats
    
• ASIC Mining
        Official
  
  • https://obelisk.tech/
    *. Shipping targeted for October 2019.
    
  • Coming Soon.
    
• FPGA's
  
  • Coming soon.
    

  

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[rgsnedds]

...is out there, but it's all over the place...

this was my experience with Grin.

all over the place, half baked and no real focus on it's correct processes.
however. i do think there will be great success with Grin, it will just take a bit of hard work on the developers parts.

good luck.

[BitPotus]

GRIN...what a fucking stupid name for a shitcoin.

 

[Cryptotourist]

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i do think there will be great success with Grin, it will just take a bit of hard work on the developers parts.
good luck.

Just to be clear. I'm not a developer, nor have any connection to Grin Dev team, or any team for that matter.
I'm just an active miner.

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GRIN...what a fucking stupid name for a shitcoin.

 

I'm sure they will appreciate your feedback..
Not all alt coins are shit coins, but I feel ya. This one has potential imho, if the team can follow through.

[Cryptotourist]

Added: https://coinalyze.net/grin-live-price-charts/

[Cryptotourist]

Currently - bench marking between the two algorithms, c29 & c31 seem to have roughly equal rewards. Marginally, c31 is ahead.

Hardware used: 1080ti's & Vega64's, both running on Minerbabe.

[pbfarmer]

You should probably split GrinPro and GrinGoldMiner in your miner list.  While it's the same author, GrinPro is newer, closed source, and has much better performance (at least on some cards like RX580s).

Also, this is prob useful - I've been updating w/ my stats, would be good for others to do the same:

https://github.com/mimblewimble/docs/wiki/GPU-Mining-Stats

[pbfarmer]

Also this:  https://grinscan.net/charts

And it's probably best if you don't 'recommend' the top two pools accounting for 80+% of nethash.  H/r needs to get distributed...

[pbfarmer]

Currently - bench marking between the two algorithms, c29 & c31 seem to have roughly equal rewards. Marginally, c31 is ahead.

Hardware used: 1080ti's & Vega64's, both running on Minerbabe.

Not sure how that works out... I get 3.4 for c29 (GrinPro on Windows), and .43 for c31 (kbminer/minerbabe on Ubuntu) on a Vega64 @ ~165W.  Plug those into the calculator you have posted you'll see that rewards for c31 are double c29.

Edit: more like +70% currently, after this recent c31 spike.

[ucliktea]

i like this project sir..do you have bounty program..I am sure that if there is a campaign program, there must be many participants

[Cryptotourist]

You should probably split GrinPro and GrinGoldMiner in your miner list.  While it's the same author, GrinPro is newer, closed source, and has much better performance (at least on some cards like RX580s).
Also, this is prob useful - I've been updating w/ my stats, would be good for others to do the same:
https://github.com/mimblewimble/docs/wiki/GPU-Mining-Stats

Because GrinPro and GoldMiner as you mentioned, are from the same author, both versions are listed to avoid confusion.
The stats are nice, added, thanks.

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Not sure how that works out... I get 3.4 for c29 (GrinPro on Windows), and .43 for c31 (kbminer/minerbabe on Ubuntu) on a Vega64 @ ~165W.  Plug those into the calculator you have posted you'll see that rewards for c31 are double c29.

Edit: more like +70% currently, after this recent c31 spike.

There seems to be a race between them on a daily basis so far.
The calculator is off a little, but if you use the other ones as well - it gives you a rough estimate.
That said, my best indicator so far has been the home page of sparkpool.
Their calculators give more precise results.

Looks like that today, c29 is gaining ground.

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i like this project sir..do you have bounty program..I am sure that if there is a campaign program, there must be many participants

I like it too Sir. It is not my project of course, I'm only supporting it.
Feel free to support it yourself:
https://grin-tech.org/yeastplume

[Cryptotourist]

Also this:  https://grinscan.net/charts

And it's probably best if you don't 'recommend' the top two pools accounting for 80+% of nethash.  H/r needs to get distributed...

Added also.

Sure, it is worth considering. But the bottom line is where things work best.

[Scofield]

Grin experiment was a lot of fun. I've learned many things from it. But for now, it is time to move on to the next one. Mining Grin isn't really profitable anymore unless you sell right away. Hold for a few weeks/months and inflation will take a big cut of your profits. I'm currently mining Grimble: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104584.0 the first Grin fork with adjusted monetary policy.. Difficulty is catching up quick now, but not near as high as Grin fortunately 

[pbfarmer]

Grin experiment was a lot of fun. I've learned many things from it. But for now, it is time to move on to the next one. Mining Grin isn't really profitable anymore unless you sell right away. Hold for a few weeks/months and inflation will take a big cut of your profits. I'm currently mining Grimble: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104584.0 the first Grin fork with adjusted monetary policy.. Difficulty is catching up quick now, but not near as high as Grin fortunately 

How is grimble 'profitable' when you cant even sell it?  More like a gamble

[kattifnatt]

Grin experiment was a lot of fun. I've learned many things from it. But for now, it is time to move on to the next one. Mining Grin isn't really profitable anymore unless you sell right away. Hold for a few weeks/months and inflation will take a big cut of your profits. I'm currently mining Grimble: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104584.0 the first Grin fork with adjusted monetary policy.. Difficulty is catching up quick now, but not near as high as Grin fortunately 

How is grimble 'profitable' when you cant even sell it?  More like a gamble

You can sell OTC, like a lot of people do? I've seen a few buy and sell orders pop up already.

Also, it's been less than a day... exchanges will probably come soon.

[Cryptotourist]

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<...> exchanges will probably come soon.

I wouldn't bet on it.

Grimble is a fucking scam.
And these two are fake. Just like their coin.

[pbfarmer]

Grin experiment was a lot of fun. I've learned many things from it. But for now, it is time to move on to the next one. Mining Grin isn't really profitable anymore unless you sell right away. Hold for a few weeks/months and inflation will take a big cut of your profits. I'm currently mining Grimble: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104584.0 the first Grin fork with adjusted monetary policy.. Difficulty is catching up quick now, but not near as high as Grin fortunately 

How is grimble 'profitable' when you cant even sell it?  More like a gamble

You can sell OTC, like a lot of people do? I've seen a few buy and sell orders pop up already.

Also, it's been less than a day... exchanges will probably come soon.

Yeah, I'm not really baggin on it - just sayin that it seems ironic to justify moving to grimble by saying that grin is no longer profitable...

[Cryptotourist]

Yeah, I'm not really baggin on it - just sayin that it seems ironic to justify moving to grimble by saying that grin is no longer profitable...

Exactly. Because currently Grin is profitable.

c29 still gaining ground against c31. Leveling out.
Thinking of switching back to c29, to have actual results.

[Cryptotourist]

Added NBMiner for supporting c29, & improving 2080ti optimization.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099379.0

Added luxor pool calculator.
http://grin.luxor.tech/statistics

[RosemaryNet]

c 32 on luxor?