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Hello everyone,

My name is Simon AKA Komodorpudel (I know, my name on Bitcointalk is Komodor, but that is a different story Smiley ) and I help manage the translation efforts for Bitcoin.org, the unofficial site of Bitcoin.

We are currently in need for people that help translate bitcoin.org into Hindi and I was wondering if anyone here could support us.

You can find information on how to get started with translating here:
https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/blob/master/docs/assisting-with-translations.md#getting-started-with-the-translation-team

Feel free to join or Telegram Group ( https://t.me/bitcoinaroundtheworld) and introduce yourself!

All work is on a voluntary basis, but people who translated during the last few months were contacted so they could be paid some bitcoin for their efforts, and we plan to offer more of these opportunities in the future!

Thank you very much for your time! If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask them here or by writing me on Telegram (Username: “@Komodorpudel”).

Best regards,

Simon

EDIT: Updated Telegram Links

Disclaimer to address stuff discussed in later replies: I am aware that Hindi is not the official language of India. Due to the process of how I prepared the posts for the different language parts of bitcointalk, I kind of missed out on adjusting the post properly for the Indian area; If anyone is interested in translating in any other language than Hindi, they can of course do so Smiley
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Thanks for sharing this Komodor. Much appreciated. I have joined and looking forward to contributing towards the translation work. Looks like there is a lot to go around.

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February 21, 2019, 04:01:23 PM
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...translate bitcoin.org into Hindi ..

Why just hindi?


Why not : Bengali, Gujrati, Malaylam, Tamil, Kannada, Koshur, Assamese, Meitei & Kukichin (Manipuri), Lushai (Mizo), Nagamese and a host of Arunachal Languages like - Mongpa, Adi, Apatani, Nishi, Nocte.. ?
Are these people less Indian ?

The answer to this question was solved in consensus while crafting the Indian constitution and naming ENGLISH AS THE OFFICIAL language.

Any translation to Hindi is useless especially (and perhaps only) when considering anything related to cryptocurrency.
Read : Project Translations in Hindi are a waste of money!


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Relay good what you are doing the bitcoin.org full site will be translate to hindi it will be help so many Indian to understated what is bitcoin in our own language and hindi is our national language it shout know all over Indian peoples in different states.

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I am working as a translator for a website these days and am quite experienced. Thanks for sharing this, I've joined the telegram and looking forward to help the community with whatever I can!

Edit :- Invite link is expired  Huh
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...translate bitcoin.org into Hindi ..

Why just hindi?


Why not : Bengali, Gujrati, Malaylam, Tamil, Kannada, Koshur, Assamese, Meitei & Kukichin (Manipuri), Lushai (Mizo), Nagamese and a host of Arunachal Languages like - Mongpa, Adi, Apatani, Nishi, Nocte.. ?
Are these people less Indian ?

--snip--
You really are over-doing the Hindi bashing here. Its quite unnecessary. Did you even care to check before posting this response about "Why just Hindi?"

I am no staunch Hindi-supremacist because it makes no sense. Yet i find it quite unbecoming of people to question anything and everything Hindi related just because they view it as some sort of external menace. Please visit this page: https://www.transifex.com/bitcoinorg/bitcoinorg/dashboard/
You can check and find Marathi, Tamil, Bengali and a host of other Indian languages under the translation projects.

And to answer you; No, none of those people are any less Indian. Being Indian is not defined by any language but this linguistic rhetoric is quite unnecessary. I agree on your previous link that the Whitepaper translations are a waste. Yet, Hindi is indeed a language that has its footprints all over our country and is one of the recognizable, marketable aspects of our country. All languages should be respected, including, much to a lot of people's chagrin, Hindi.
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...translate bitcoin.org into Hindi ..

Why just hindi?


Why not : Bengali, Gujrati, Malaylam, Tamil, Kannada, Koshur, Assamese, Meitei & Kukichin (Manipuri), Lushai (Mizo), Nagamese and a host of Arunachal Languages like - Mongpa, Adi, Apatani, Nishi, Nocte.. ?
Are these people less Indian ?

--snip--
You really are over-doing the Hindi bashing here....

Did you even care to check ....

Yet i find it quite unbecoming of people ...
they view it as some sort of external menace...



Problem : I can't read English.

PreExisting Conditions : I can already use a cellphone / pc / laptop where everything is in English.

Solution : Use GOOGLE CHROME AUTO TRANSLATE!

Seriously, just to protect your feet from getting dirty, do you need to cover the entire world with leather? or just cover your feet?

Localization of content leads to segregation - something I fundamentally oppose. Always.


And to answer you; No, none of those people are any less Indian. Being Indian is not defined by any language but...

but how then transcribing a content to Hindi makes it consumable to the rest of the country that cannot distinguish between bari E and chhoti e ?


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I can help you in this regards.
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Problem : I can't read English.

PreExisting Conditions : I can already use a cellphone / pc / laptop where everything is in English.

Solution : Use GOOGLE CHROME AUTO TRANSLATE!

Seriously, just to protect your feet from getting dirty, do you need to cover the entire world with leather? or just cover your feet?

Localization of content leads to segregation - something I fundamentally oppose. Always.

You really just restated your original thought without acknowledging that you were unnecessarily raising an issue AGAINST Hindi particularly. Annnd you changed the goalpost claiming this "fundamental opposition to localization of content because it leads to segregation". Phew..Can't argue with an opinion now..But Helloo, What happened to "Unity in Diversity" and all that shit??

And to answer you; No, none of those people are any less Indian. Being Indian is not defined by any language but...


but how then transcribing a content to Hindi makes it consumable to the rest of the country that cannot distinguish between bari E and chhoti e ?
You are just ignoring that the translation project isn't just for Hindi but a lot of other Indian languages..Sooo..it does make it consumable for the rest of the country too..
Also, Do you realize that you are questioning the usefulness of what someone may just do voluntarily? Someone may find a Hindi/ Bengali/ Oriya/ Tamil translation useful. If I can do it and have the time to do it, I'll gladly contribute and so will others..

You have to appreciate the fact that everyone may not be "fundamentally opposed to translation"...LOL..Wink
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Relay good what you are doing the bitcoin.org full site will be translate to hindi it will be help so many Indian to understated what is bitcoin in our own language and hindi is our national language it shout know all over Indian peoples in different states.

Bro, India doesn't have any national language per se. We have 2 official languages English and Hindi at the national level(spoken and understood by approx 500M) and every state is free to choose their official language.

India has 22 official languages.

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You have to appreciate the fact ..

I don't have time to appreciate bullshit.

What kind of bullshit you ask?

Relay good what you are doing the bitcoin.org full site will be translate to hindi it will be help so many Indian to understated what is bitcoin in our own language and hindi is our national language it shout know all over Indian peoples in different states.


That kind of bullshit.

Our countrymen are not mentally matured to understand the nuances of this translation to hindi fad.

For countries like France, South korea, Japan it makes sense to translate to local languages because their local language is pushed as the official language with very little to no counter effects of using English.
But in our country, the reason English is pushed as an official language is primarily because localized languages promote fascism - something that BJP and RSS are already doing too much. We (I) don't want to see more such drama.


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Our countrymen are not mentally matured to understand the nuances of this translation to hindi fad.

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But in our country, the reason English is pushed as an official language is primarily because localized languages promote fascism - something that BJP and RSS are already doing too much. We (I) don't want to see more such drama.

LOL...You first blamed translation for segregation, now you blame it for Fascism..!! I don't know where you read your Sociology and Political Science on this but the established facts are that Fascism promotes single languages while every liberal ideology supports a diversity of mother-tongues.

You maybe against Hindi but this project is a multi-lingual one. A point you keep ignoring to stick conveniently to your own thought process. This is a mark of the typical Indian Left-liberal with his slave mentality. Your own countrymen are mentally immature to you because they cannot write the Sahib's language well. If somebody tries to help them by translation then it becomes "Language localization==>Segregation==>Fascism" for you.

I get it that its your strong political opinion that makes you go against something as useful as translation. You speak as if translations do not benefit anybody. Its your flawed viewpoint. Just go to the Indonesian/ Filipino sections to see the activity that translation can generate.

And well, No use arguing it further anyways. You are welcome to keep opposing translations in the name of Fascism.. Huh Huh
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Hello guys,

sorry that I never came back to reply. For some reason, I did not get any notification at all about replies to this thread even though I received notifications about replies to similar threads.

I wanted to thank anyone willing to help us out!

And I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone by only mentioning Hindi to be translated. Of course the website can be translated in any other language Smiley I edited the original post to address this.

Thank you all!

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Hello guys,

sorry that I never came back to reply. For some reason, I did not get any notification at all about replies to this thread even though I received notifications about replies to similar threads.

I wanted to thank anyone willing to help us out!

And I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone by only mentioning Hindi to be translated. Of course the website can be translated in any other language Smiley I edited the original post to address this.

Thank you all!

Best regards,

Simon



You only get the notification for your replies when you click the notify option on that thread and you have to do at the every thread you want to get notifications.

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Hi Simon. Great initiative. I would like to render my support for the initiative. Though, I am not so sure about the time that I can allocate to the project but will be willing to help in whatever capacity I can. I have joined the group on telegram.

Also, I think Hindi is the place to start with and we can then follow up with other regional languages as well. Now, some moron can come crying but the fact remains that Hindi is the most widely spoken and accepted language in the country. If you plan to reach out the average person in India and make him understand what decentralization and Bitcoin is all about then Hindi is the way to start. People in India know about Bitcoin (courtesy the 20k boom) but all because of wrong reasons. Fraud, scam, getting rich quick and other such themes are generally associated with the technology. I think we can definitely make a dent in terms of making the people understand that blockchain is more than some getting rich quick scheme.  Grin Grin


Will be looking forward to working with you.  Wink
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And I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone by only mentioning Hindi to be translated.


You don't need to apologize to anyone bro, and I am sure no one in the right mind would be offended here, all users just offering their point of views and they are entitled to their opinions — right or wrong its another debate.

As long as they are respectful and not attacking other users. Everything is good.

You are doing good work, keep doing that — best of luck.

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And I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone by only mentioning Hindi to be translated.


You don't need to apologize to anyone bro, and I am sure no one in the right mind would be offended here, all users just offering their point of views and they are entitled to their opinions — right or wrong its another debate.

As long as they are respectful and not attacking other users. Everything is good.

You are doing good work, keep doing that — best of luck.

Yes, Komodor's effort has been great in our translation team.
If Hindi translation is finished adoptions or knowledges of Bitcoin in India will be improved in the long term.
Though there has been Bitcoin.org.hi, that contents is old now. It will be renewed only by Hindi translators.
This is a progress of Bitcoin.org.hi main page. I hope Hindi translation will be finished by nice volunteers Cheesy


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And I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone by only mentioning Hindi to be translated. Of course the website can be translated in any other language Smiley I edited the original post to address this.

No need for apologies, @legendster seems to have gone off the deep end lately, and his comments show nothing but immaturity. I certainly agree a Hindi translation for bitcoin.org would be most useful to a majority of Indians interested in digital currencies.

India has over 150 officially recognized languages and 1000s of local dialects and smaller languages. Hindi IS the most commonly used language across the 1.2 billion people in India (no, it's not English).

Happy to contribute to the translation efforts!

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No need for apologies, @legendster seems to have gone off the deep end lately, and his comments show nothing but immaturity. I certainly agree a Hindi translation for bitcoin.org would be most useful to a majority of Indians interested in digital currencies.


Oh really? Is this because I did not entertain your useless post on my self-mod thread? And just because you traded with me does not mean you actually know me or something. I've always had an anti-hindi  / anti-single-language-for-India stance.

And I do not need your justification or approval to have that.

India has over 150 officially recognized languages and 1000s of local dialects and smaller languages. Hindi IS the most commonly used language across the 1.2 billion people in India (no, it's not English).

Happy to contribute to the translation efforts!

Not facts. Just what you believe. Check facts first. Link : http://www.censusindia.gov.in/Census_Data_2001/India_at_glance/glance.aspx

And I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone by only mentioning Hindi to be translated. Of course, the website can be translated in any other language Smiley I edited the original post to address this.

You do not need to apologize. There is nothing wrong in what you have said, you thought India had one language, and that is the prevailing mindset - that needs to change. Not just in India but for outsiders as well.


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Oh really? Is this because I did not entertain your useless post on my self-mod thread? And just because you traded with me does not mean you actually know me or something. I've always had an anti-hindi  / anti-single-language-for-India stance.

And I do not need your justification or approval to have that.
Useless post?! Grin  My post was simply pointing out the utterly useless garbage you posted as "fact based news" to rack up posts for your signature campaign promoting newbies to join a well known shady russian exchange. For reference the thread in question is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144141.0  Very few articles in the thread have to do with official information about legality in India, unlike the misleading title of the thread. The India forum already has multiple threads on this issue, but hey, we got a signature campaign to promote!

Please don't flatter yourself, just because I traded with you a few times, doesn't mean I want to do much else with you or even trade with you again. As for your stance on languages, you can have a stance of liking big black shlongs and its just fine and absolutely no approval is needed. When you start to spew it out on public forums, thats when other forum members step in...

Not facts. Just what you believe. Check facts first. Link : http://www.censusindia.gov.in/Census_Data_2001/India_at_glance/glance.aspx
Again, a totally useless link (from 2001 nonetheless  Cheesy ) posted by you.  Please do some reasearch before spewing out nonsense.
Here's something to get you started - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/seven-decades-after-independence-many-small-languages-in-india-facing-extinction-threat/articleshow/60038323.cms

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