Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal

[marlboroza]

He has tried to withdraw over 330 BTC since 2nd January 2019 so 40 days ago and there is still no resolution because Cloudbet are trying to manufacture excuses to keep hold of crypto that belongs to the user.

If the image is real, player withdrew 50BTC the same day their 52BTC was rejected, day before 40BTC and 54BTC on Dec. 29. So why would they allowed player to withdraw 144BTC and then reject other withdrawals? Makes no sense.

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[Swofty]

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too? Just like I said on AskGamblers on my complaint they easily sent me 40s 50s last time. But then this issue came.

Why they do not pay me after that? I dont know, what I know is that, they asked me for documents for KYC. which I provided right away, and as for you asking how many people access the account? I will answer it again for you.

ONLY ME is the owner of the account, ONLY ME knows the 2FA everytime I go to my account. And ONLY ME could verify the email everytime I withdraw. So here you go. The answer. I just hope Cloudbet will not come here and will respond about ownership, because they know already this and they actually replied into this ownership on AskGamblers. So they know.

Albert

[marlboroza]

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

[Bazinga442]

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

It would be nice if cloudbet makes an appearance and says something unambiguous. So far they have failed to properly address the issue, both on here and on askgamblers.com.

[JollyGood]

He has tried to withdraw over 330 BTC since 2nd January 2019 so 40 days ago and there is still no resolution because Cloudbet are trying to manufacture excuses to keep hold of crypto that belongs to the user.

If the image is real, player withdrew 50BTC the same day their 52BTC was rejected, day before 40BTC and 54BTC on Dec. 29. So why would they allowed player to withdraw 144BTC and then reject other withdrawals? Makes no sense.

The user mentioned in previous posts that he was allowed to make those withdrawals and deposits but all of a sudden without any notification the Cloudbet scammers starting pulling the "investigation" trick.

The motive behind why the Cloudbet scammers did it is something only they know and I cannot see them elaborating on why they did it. Maybe it has something to with the actual size of the winnings going over a particular threshold over a particular amount of days but it seems legitimate to me.

Cloudbet have not come forward to confirm nor deny what is going on with the claim of these 3 specific users but so far it seems on evidence of screenshots provided that Cloudbet have not only suspended the account but also frozen the funds so he cannot move them, not discounting the other issue which is refusal to payout the winnings that he won.

[Lauda]

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

Cloudbet has offered zero answers. The only one telling there side is Swofty

This is what bothers me the most about this case. An explanation would be very welcome.

[JollyGood]

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too? Just like I said on AskGamblers on my complaint they easily sent me 40s 50s last time. But then this issue came.

Why they do not pay me after that? I dont know, what I know is that, they asked me for documents for KYC. which I provided right away, and as for you asking how many people access the account? I will answer it again for you.

ONLY ME is the owner of the account, ONLY ME knows the 2FA everytime I go to my account. And ONLY ME could verify the email everytime I withdraw. So here you go. The answer. I just hope Cloudbet will not come here and will respond about ownership, because they know already this and they actually replied into this ownership on AskGamblers. So they know.

Albert

With the greatest respect Albert/Swofty, please control your frustrations.

We all understand your issues and share your concerns. As mentioned before on several occasions we will try our best to stand alongside you and will try to help you get your funds back but whatever you do please post in a calm and polite manner to those trying to help you.

marlboroza is an active and highly respected member of this forum. He never alluded you faked anything, on the contrary he was being objective and trying to look at things from all angles. He is right, it does not make sense that the scammers at Cloudbet would allow you to withdraw large amounts of BTC on certain given days then suspend your account another day. Having said that, it does not mean that you have done anything wrong. Only the Cloudbet scammers can explain "how, who and why" they select their victims and I do not see them explaining their internal scam techniques here.

We are all going to stand by you. 335+ BTC is a huge amount of money to be scammed between the 3 of you so we will stand and confront the scammers alongside you but if we are on the same team we need to be patient with each other.

Thank you

[ChrisLandin]

That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?

I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.

Cloudbet has offered zero answers. The only one telling there side is Swofty

This is what bothers me the most about this case. An explanation would be very welcome.

This is a known tactic from CloudBet. I don’t think they’ll respond anymore. OP- get a lawyer asap

[JollyGood]

Swofty,

This is exactly what happened to my referral. He asked if he could bet under his circumstances and was told he could. Cloudbet assured him he could bet and be paid.

If your forum moaning strategy will fail, our lawyer is willing to enforce it on a contingency fee basis without the necessity to pay anything upfront.

1) If it will be successful, the law firm will reduce its part

2) If it will not be successful, claim is still valid and victim can do with it whatever he likes

I think it is better for the 3 of them to get together and join forces then get a US based lawyer to represent them.

Which country is your lawyer based in?

[Swofty]

Thanks guys for the support. Appreciate it so much.
I just hope when Cloudbet responds its a new one. Not new excuse, but a solution to solve this case.

Albert

[owlcatz]

Thanks guys for the support. Appreciate it so much.
I just hope when Cloudbet responds its a new one. Not new excuse, but a solution to solve this case.

Albert

Albert. Hire a lawyer in your country and have them get involved - Do NOT give any info to game-protect.

[Swofty]

I will never give anyone information.

Im waiting for Cloudbet to respond. And I just hope it is a solution respond. Not a new excuse to drag delay this case. Since they know all already about ownership. And they got the documents of KYC.

Albert

[owlcatz]

I will never give anyone information.

Im waiting for Cloudbet to respond. And I just hope it is a solution respond. Not a new excuse to drag delay this case. Since they know all already about ownership. And they got the documents of KYC.

Albert

My point is - You could be waiting forever for nothing. There is ZERO excuse for not getting your coins yet, they are just being dicks hoping you forget it. Seriously, don't wait, get a lawyer where you live and take it upon yourself. That's over a million dollars. lol.

[JollyGood]

I will never give anyone information.

Im waiting for Cloudbet to respond. And I just hope it is a solution respond. Not a new excuse to drag delay this case. Since they know all already about ownership. And they got the documents of KYC.

Albert

My point is - You could be waiting forever for nothing. There is ZERO excuse for not getting your coins yet, they are just being dicks hoping you forget it. Seriously, don't wait, get a lawyer where you live and take it upon yourself. That's over a million dollars. lol.

I concur. I agree with you but Swofty wants to wait to give the Cloudbet scammers more time even though this has been going on for over 40 days.

[JollyGood]

This makes interesting reading. Cloudbet accuse users of using "software" to win games then suspend their accounts as a way to selective scam:

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/cloudbet-casino-problem-withdrawing-38-btc

Cloudbet Casino - posted on January 29, 2019. "Hi Ginalli, Our teams investigated your complaint, alongside our partners at Evolution Gaming"


Interesting way to try to scam customers.

[game-protect]

Albert. Hire a lawyer in your country and have them get involved - Do NOT give any info to game-protect.

Very good advice, the Philippines have the best online casino claim enforcement lawyers in the world!

I will never give anyone information.

Without the willingness to give your info to our lawyer, you can write off your coins!

Swofty,

This is exactly what happened to my referral. He asked if he could bet under his circumstances and was told he could. Cloudbet assured him he could bet and be paid.

If your forum moaning strategy will fail, our lawyer is willing to enforce it on a contingency fee basis without the necessity to pay anything upfront.

1) If it will be successful, the law firm will reduce its part

2) If it will not be successful, claim is still valid and victim can do with it whatever he likes

I think it is better for the 3 of them to get together and join forces then get a US based lawyer to represent them.

No, according to DT2 member and "enforcement expert" owlcatz, he must hire a lawyer in the Philippines!

[owlcatz]

Albert. Hire a lawyer in your country and have them get involved - Do NOT give any info to game-protect.

Very good advice, the Philippines have the best online casino claim enforcement lawyers in the world!

I will never give anyone information.

Without the willingness to give your info to our lawyer, you can write off your coins!

Swofty,

This is exactly what happened to my referral. He asked if he could bet under his circumstances and was told he could. Cloudbet assured him he could bet and be paid.

If your forum moaning strategy will fail, our lawyer is willing to enforce it on a contingency fee basis without the necessity to pay anything upfront.

1) If it will be successful, the law firm will reduce its part

2) If it will not be successful, claim is still valid and victim can do with it whatever he likes

I think it is better for the 3 of them to get together and join forces then get a US based lawyer to represent them.

No, according to DT2 member and "enforcement expert" owlcatz, he must hire a lawyer in the Philippines!

Hey scammer - I am only giving the best advice I know, which is to avoid your scam services. I don't know where he is, and I'm no "expert", but I'm pretty fucking sure that giving someone who shows as -9999 trust anything is a bad idea?

[Swofty]

Like I said, I am waiting for Cloudbet to respond here or in AskGamblers.

Albert

[sandy-is-fine]

Hey Sandy,
The player won and is trying to get his withdrawal. The player has already sent in all the required documentation that was asked for by cloudbet and does not live in the United States.
You mentioned he probably lost a lot? You should read the full story before commenting. You can see above he is waiting on a 330 bitcoin payout. He also already withdrew 145 bitcoins  [/b]

I am aware of everything you stated however you obviously missed my point or didn't clearly understand or actually read my comment.  My comment was strictly regarding someone's suggestion about LEGAL ACTION against Cloudbet.  If the PLAYER resides in the US where online gambling is ILLEGAL and if he went to court it would likely be thrown out whether he was cheated or not.  There is a legal doctrine  called "dirty hands or clean hands" that basically states if you do something that is not legal and get cheated the courts will not help you to resolve it. 

Think of a drug dealer suing his supplier for ripping him off.  Since the drug deal is an illegal action the courts will not help you.

I made no judgement on either the poster or the casino just the suggestion of legal action. As for me saying he "lost a lot" that is true if he won 330BTC and didn't get paid. He most definitely would have LOST A LOT. I also never found out if he was from the US.

From what I have been reading around the web regarding online gaming there are many US players sneaking in using various surreptitious methods then getting pissed when they don't get paid when they win. I tried to join a casino and was locked out as I was from the US.  Their TOS also state that they don't accept players from certain regions.

[KingZee]

Like I said, I am waiting for Cloudbet to respond here or in AskGamblers.

Albert

I already asked you, but I'll do it publicly here.

You said your KYC is already verified. But the issue was in "investigations" concerning your withdrawal. Did you want to withdraw to a different address?

You could simply discuss this with someone higher up in the cloudbet chain of command. You could just prove ownership and cancel any claims they have by withdrawing to a deposit address that they know, or sign a message with it. You can do this with their customer chat and screen that discussion and keep it as evidence too, and so on.

If it's been 40 days then it's way too much time for you to drag this on. You need to move your ass more instead of sitting down and waiting for it to be handed to you. There are many other ways to contact people instead of just forum rants and e-complaints. Especially if you have the money.