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Note to moderators: This is not a scam accusation (despite the title); a scam accusation already exists I believe (or it is in the reputation section). I'm posting it in this thread for the sake of discussion/research; they're already a proven scam thus no need to "accuse" them of anything.

Tl;dr: Tokensuite.io and bountysuite.com are scam platforms that overcharge clients for fraudulent marketing -> they create fake marketing buzz via ANN bumping, Telegram spam and more.



What happened: Fraudulent bounty management offering; offering bot boosting on Bitcointalk and probably other sites as well.
Scammers Profile Link: needmoney, olcaytu2005, radnom, psy0, probably more.
Previous accusation(s): Running a fraudulent bounty - [Unethical]Bounty Team Tokensuite Misleading Token Calculations Sprintx [Proven]
Reference Link: Tokensuite.io archived: https://archive.fo/Q3dMC; Bountysuite.io archived: https://archive.fo/ANQtv; Tokendrops.com archived: https://archive.fo/q134n.

I've looked into their scam platform again after I've randomly received the following PM from one of their accounts:


Proof of offering "bumping services":



Known threads which were bumped:
[ANN][ICO] CrowdForce: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032793.0 [Proven - See screenshots] - Archive: https://archive.fo/RGDzb
[ANN] BtcEX - Built for Security, Transparency and Liquidity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5083960.0 [Proven - Same accounts from the above]



Everyone involved in this scam:





Archived in case that they try to hide something: https://web.archive.org/web/20190204105240/http://tokensuite.io/about.html

Note: I've had no interaction with any member of this scam myself in any way or form between the time that I've received the PM and made this thread.
Credits: Credits go to an anonymous source that forwarded me the messages (forwards can't be doctored trivially like screenshots can). If either platform acts malliciously and retaliates against the source, then actions against them should be elevated (i.e. they should be at least permanently banned; and maybe legal action should be taken if someone is a fan of that).
Note 2: While forwards can't be doctored, the person creating a screenshot of the forward can doctor the image. If anyone questions the validity of the screenshots that I've taken, then they can contact me on TG and request a forward (although anyone who is familiar with me knows that this would just be a small waste of time).

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I partially believe that this is also a Meta issue. If some services are doing this on large scale (they are probably not informing clients that this is not allowed, and wrong), then maybe theymos should blacklist them and remove anything related to them that comes up. I don't see any other way of preventing this on such a scale.
Additionally, every ANN thread of every project that they have ever worked with has to be analized. I currently lack the time required to go through all them otherwise I would have already listed the results here.
All clients:
https://i.imgur.com/Z8gi9w3.png
https://i.imgur.com/r45rLWl.png
https://i.imgur.com/nQay1Gn.png
https://i.imgur.com/3qIJmi9.png
https://i.imgur.com/hANBtVI.png


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February 05, 2019, 10:37:24 AM
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They have one more website: https://tokendrops.com/

and at least 2 more profiles:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675456

and one more with the letter S as the First letter of the name but I don't remember it


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February 05, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
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They have one more website: https://tokendrops.com/
and at least 2 more profiles:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675456

and one more with the letter S as the First letter of the name but I don't remember it
Added, archived, tagged. Thanks.

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February 05, 2019, 11:42:07 AM
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I don't think theymos should involved with this matter. Because as well you know also scam isn't moderated by forum so we can't ask theymos to ban them and blacklist website. But DT members could stop them advertise their website on this forum lik did about DuckDice. If theymos ban them and blacklist website then many more website will be subject to blacklist.

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February 05, 2019, 11:50:40 AM
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I don't think theymos should involved with this matter. Because as well you know also scam isn't moderated by forum so we can't ask theymos to ban them and blacklist website. But DT members could stop them advertise their website on this forum lik did about DuckDice. If theymos ban them and blacklist website then many more website will be subject to blacklist.

Let's see others opinions about that.
You are completely wrong. ANN bumping on a large scale is permanently bannable, and this may be the largest scale bumping (from a single source) that we've indentified so far (or at least in recent times). Staff must absolutely get involved.

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February 05, 2019, 01:50:17 PM
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Back in May 17th last year I remember making this thread and PMing Needmoney to respond to the accusation more than once. However they are least bothered to look into such topics and are more interested in making money off ICO teams by these unethical methods to do ANN shill bumping and miscalculations of bounty stakes as they did in the Sprintx ICO bounty campaign:

[Unethical]Bounty Team Tokensuite Misleading Token Calculations Sprintx

Leaving it here because it might be worth importance.  Smiley

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Back in May 17th last year I remember making this thread and PMing Needmoney to respond to the accusation more than once. However they are least bothered to look into such topics and are more interested in making money off ICO teams by these unethical methods to do ANN shill bumping and miscalculations of bounty stakes as they did in the Sprintx ICO bounty campaign:

[Unethical]Bounty Team Tokensuite Misleading Token Calculations Sprintx

Leaving it here because it might be worth importance.  Smiley
That link was already in the thread, but the hyperlink had a different text. The compilation of links from that thread might also be useful:

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More bounties, only few of they has been paid, a lot of them are scam with no website.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2655124.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2954691.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2995864.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2852878.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2679019.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3088509.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2942955.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833315.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2837890.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3010597.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2673668.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3162562.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3199555.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3221278.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3083623.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3333922.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3457893.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3286739.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3301710.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3417034.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3518174.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3111411.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3196486.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3514777.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3865805.0
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February 05, 2019, 03:53:10 PM
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They wont stop creating bounties until their accounts are all banned..red trust wont stop they need permanent ban..
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They wont stop creating bounties until their accounts are all banned..red trust wont stop they need permanent ban..
Correct. They will juse use more shill accounts to create more projects and bump them again.

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February 15, 2019, 09:58:16 AM
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Correct. They will juse use more shill accounts to create more projects and bump them again.

Then how can we stop them if we cannot ban them and red tagging doesn't help?
I'll give a hand in tagging too sometime soon. Hope it will open the eyes of the potential investors/bounty hunters.

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February 18, 2019, 02:48:07 PM
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I want attract your attention to another project of scam, which they-needmoney promoted under the name gabrotech https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4541530.0
This project is not traded on the exchanges, all deadlines were violated and investors were fraud.
Tokensuite team take 5% of the money collected by fraud. I think that for such things all they nicknames should already ban on the forum. They dont pay attention to the red trust.
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Up.

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and one more with the letter S as the First letter of the name but I don't remember it
Here's your letter S. His name is Serkan but his profile name in BCT is Forumgeiq. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=674608. I joined Sprintx bounty and it's a complete scam.


Link in Sprintx bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3196486.0




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Everyone who tagged these Turkish idiots has now been accused of blackmail/extortion:



This clearly warrants more negatives.

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Haha, when they get caught and then get angry, the only solution is to fake-tag people back.
They are most welcome to prove it.

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Everyone who tagged these Turkish idiots has now been accused of blackmail/extortion:



This clearly warrants more negatives.
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Very serious head of marketing is not only scambag, also a big liar, but I guess it is ok to have this feedback in our trust walls because reference link is pointing to this thread and another accusation thread  Cheesy
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Very serious head of marketing is not only scambag, also a big liar, but I guess it is ok to have this feedback in our trust walls because reference link is pointing to this thread and another accusation thread  Cheesy
Douchbag marketing and not even marketing at all. They are nothing but the real extortionists because they fake their token promotions and gather money form investors into pockets of scammers. They even mislead bounty hunters with wrong bounty reward calculations. The real "mafia" if any is Tokensuite itself because the facts are clearly evident.

Call their actions wrong and you get called back as blackmailer. Nice way to make a living on this forum for scammers. I wonder how many people of this team actually has a family to feed or care for.

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I think I got scammed but it looks like that's not the case.
If you bought VRAB before 29th of June you can swap it...
I just hope everything is gonna be ok in the future...
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Yeah I know these guys from very starting in 2017. They promoting scam ICOs mostly. I have worked on more than 10 bounties of these guys. Rarely i got payment. They should need to be banned from bitcointalk.
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