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November 09, 2011, 06:01:31 PM
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I just wanted to clarify that my ability to provide a discount extends to the 25BTC coins.  The 1 BTC coin is super expensive only because I otherwise can't make them fast enough to fill the orders for them - something that can't be helped by offering discounts on large orders.  I am looking to increase production capacity and will definitely make an announcement if I am able to produce the 1 BTC's faster.

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November 20, 2011, 01:06:29 PM
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bump!


so are there gonna be a few coins for sale at the conference?

Cascasius will you be there? did you get your free ticket ?

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November 20, 2011, 02:11:40 PM
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I briefly talked to genjix on IRC and sent a mail to casascius with the estimated demand (partly with the information from this thread) and asked for a price.

Unfortunately I didn't get a response from him yet so I really hope somebody else has made a deal with him and bring some coins so that we can buy them at the conference.

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November 20, 2011, 02:33:27 PM
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I really hope somebody else has made a deal with him and bring some coins so that we can buy them at the conference.
Count me in. I'll buy 3 25BTC.
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November 20, 2011, 06:07:11 PM
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I briefly talked to genjix on IRC and sent a mail to casascius with the estimated demand (partly with the information from this thread) and asked for a price.

Unfortunately I didn't get a response from him yet so I really hope somebody else has made a deal with him and bring some coins so that we can buy them at the conference.

It doesn't seem reasonable to expect they would arrive on time even with casascius' prompt shipping.

So someone would _have_ to bring them, right?

It'd really be nice to have coins at the conference, especially many 1 BTC coins. I'm sure everyone will want at least one!


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November 20, 2011, 06:20:27 PM
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It doesn't seem reasonable to expect they would arrive on time even with casascius' prompt shipping.

So someone would _have_ to bring them, right?
True, I sent him a mail 4 days ago, asking him if he thinks he could still ship on time. I guess the answer is no Sad

It'd really be nice to have coins at the conference, especially many 1 BTC coins. I'm sure everyone will want at least one!
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November 20, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
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I did get the message on my iphone, sorry I did not respond, I should have later when I was back at a computer.

However, I felt I had sufficiently made clear in the thread that the ability to provide a bulk discount applied specifically to the 25 BTC coins, no discount was possible on 1BTC coins.  The e-mail I received was to ask if there could be a discount on 52 1BTC coins and 2 25 BTC coins, and 20 non-denominated bars.  I regularly get single orders larger than this (except perhaps for the 20 bars, which happens but is much less frequent as a single order) and this wasn't what I had in mind as being a bulk order.

What I had in mind was that some enterprising person who perhaps already had a vendor table would pick up 50 or 100 or 200 of the 25 BTC coins at a discount, and make a nice little profit selling them.

If anyone in the US is going, I can reliably overnight something for Tuesday delivery to anyone in the US who might be going to the conference.  But for orders like 50-100 1BTC coins... may as well just order them like normal.  I can mail up to 2kg for USD $13.25 anywhere in the world.

Even then, unless I did express air shipping (e.g. DHL), a regular mailing to Prague wouldn't make it reliably in any amount of time.  Some of my international orders arrive in 4 days, I have had one take 34, with 10-11 days being the norm.  If I were to use DHL right now, it would probably still be in time for the conference if sending all the way to Prague.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.
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November 20, 2011, 07:28:16 PM
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I felt I had sufficiently made clear in the thread that the ability to provide a bulk discount applied specifically to the 25 BTC coins, no discount was possible on 1BTC coins.
I'm sorry - must have been a misunderstanding. I somehow read the "discount extends to the 25BTC coins" as to not excluding the 1 BTC coins but re-reading it you're right of course.

What I had in mind was that some enterprising person who perhaps already had a vendor table would pick up 50 or 100 or 200 of the 25 BTC coins at a discount, and make a nice little profit selling them.
Well, that's something which would better be arranged directly with the organizer of the event instead of over a forum thread. But I'm sure Mitchell already had enough on his plate Wink

If anyone in the US is going, I can reliably overnight something for Tuesday delivery to anyone in the US who might be going to the conference.  But for orders like 50-100 1BTC coins... may as well just order them like normal.  I can mail up to 2kg for USD $13.25 anywhere in the world.
If somebody could do that it would be great of course, but given the tight schedule I think our chances are slim.

No worries though - shipping is not that expensive - I think we're probably all best off ordering separately (or teaming up with some of your local Bitcoin group).

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