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February 10, 2019, 06:59:32 PM
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Dear colleagues.
We have launched recently an online wallet with exchange to fiat options. We implemented an AI advisory so the holders can buy/sell BTC based on market sentiment analysis. We do also have several licenses in EU and are registered as money services business in US.
So I would be happy if bitcointalk users can participate in a small online cusdev survey answering several questions below:

1. How often do you trade with crypto?
2. Do you use crypto as a payment instrument?
3. We can offer a very high limits for fiat deposit/withdraw in EUR. Is it important for you?
4. Have you ever needed the any legal documents as a source of income confirmation connected with crypto exchange? How do you think - will the reference from a regulated financial institution solve the problem?
5. Did you ever worked with crypto as a legal entity? Is it a good idea to have compliant with laws account for a legal entity?
6. KYC/onboarding - if you do understand that crypto/fiat is always connected with kyc procedures - what is the biggest problem for you with this process: manual filling of applications, long time to wait to be checked, taking selfies with ID in hands or something else?
7.have you ever dreamed of a single platform which could store your crypto, exchange to fiat and be used as a bank so you can pay to any person with fiat funds?

Appreciate very much! Every user registered on Raison and participated will get 15EUR on his account. You can check what we’ve currently launched at https://raison.ai.
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February 11, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
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id rather use an illegal but trusted website than ever do a kyc

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February 11, 2019, 03:11:12 PM
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id rather use an illegal but trusted website than ever do a kyc
Do you ever use bank services?
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February 11, 2019, 06:21:41 PM
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Sorry but with current high cases identity theft where customer details later find their way into the dark web for resale. I don't think it's a good idea.
At least if it's a reputable exchange, people will have some little faith into doing KYC.

Do you ever use bank services?
The difference is that this is the web, Banks are in most cases regulated by Governments. Here on the web you just can't trust anyone. Any how with you details without ascertaining how good they are. You first have to prove yourself that you are a great exchange to work with.

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February 11, 2019, 10:00:09 PM
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Sorry but with current high cases identity theft where customer details later find their way into the dark web for resale. I don't think it's a good idea.
At least if it's a reputable exchange, people will have some little faith into doing KYC.

Do you ever use bank services?
The difference is that this is the web, Banks are in most cases regulated by Governments. Here on the web you just can't trust anyone. Any how with you details without ascertaining how good they are. You first have to prove yourself that you are a great exchange to work with.
Bank as an any other financial institution is regulated by government. So we are. As we are the financial services provider regulated by Financial Intelligence Unit of Estonian Ministry of Internal Affairs (FIU is a Police Department which regulates virtual currencies and forex exchanges). Our regulation is more strict than banks in several jurisdictions🤷🏻‍♂️ Believe me... for 3 months of operations we were called to their office twice to check our compliance with legislation.
And do not forget about the GDPR with it enormous fines for non compliant attitude to personal data...
The only thing to worry about regulations and identification process is the absence of anonymity. But in EU all crypto exchanges must be compliant with AML directives by 2020, so all will be regulated. And in USA even earlier I think
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February 11, 2019, 10:54:21 PM
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In theory Your debit card solution can be useful for 'crypto' people.
Question: is it possible to create account + card for a business entity (not a person)?

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February 12, 2019, 02:44:17 AM
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LOL.   Nice website.  You call yourselves a "financial institution" but all I see are spelling mistakes and no license information. 

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February 12, 2019, 12:48:47 PM
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LOL.   Nice website.  You call yourselves a "financial institution" but all I see are spelling mistakes and no license information. 
Sorry for mistakes, the content manager will be fined.

The licensed are presented on several pages:
Raison operates under the following licenses:
— Financial services, Virtual currency wallet service — FRK000449
— Financial services, Exchange services between virtual currencies and fiat currencies — FVR000536
Raison is registered by Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) as Money Service Business (MSB). MSB Registration Number: 3100013901365
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February 12, 2019, 05:51:03 PM
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LOL.   Nice website.  You call yourselves a "financial institution" but all I see are spelling mistakes and no license information. 
I did a little digging and they may be wrong on calling their business as a financial institution and also they have no any certification in their website but when I look at their team members one of them, Andrey Berezin, is a real person and has confirmed his identity through a Youtube video under the channel of Raison. So for the OP I think my only recommendation for you is to show your legal information and certifications in your website to make other people believe that you are a legit business, this is also good as more people will trust you and won't have second thoughts on your services.

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February 12, 2019, 06:44:52 PM
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So, from your Privacy Policy

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Raison.ai collects some Personal Data from its Users.

What makes you think that we want a service who will collect their users' data for every step we do on your APP?


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Personal Data collected for the following purposes and using the following services:

        Analytics

            Facebook Analytics for Apps

            Personal Data: Usage Data and various types of Data as specified in the privacy policy of the service
            Google Analytics, Yandex Metrica, Google Analytics with anonymized IP and Facebook Ads conversion tracking

            Personal Data: Cookies and Usage Data

        Contacting the User

            Contact form and Mailing list or newsletter

            Personal Data: email address, first name, last name and phone number

            Phone contact

            Personal Data: phone number

        Data transfer outside the EU

            Data transfer abroad based on consent and Data transfer abroad based on standard contractual clauses

            Personal Data: various types of Data

        Device permissions for Personal Data access

            Device permissions for Personal Data access

            Personal Data: Approximate location permission (non-continuous), Camera permission, Sensors permission and Storage permission

        Displaying content from external platforms

            YouTube video widget

            Personal Data: Cookies and Usage Data

            YouTube video widget without cookies

            Personal Data: Usage Data

        Handling payments

            Payment by bank transfer

            Personal Data: address, company name, first name, last name and payment data

        Interaction with data collection platforms and other third parties

            Typeform widget

            Personal Data: email address, first name, last name and phone number

        Location-based interactions

            Non-continuous geolocation

            Personal Data: geographic position

        Managing contacts and sending messages

            Mailchimp

            Personal Data: country, email address, first name, last name, phone number and various types of Data

        Managing landing and invitation pages

            Mailchimp Landing Page

            Personal Data: email address, first name, last name and phone number

        Registration and authentication

            Direct registration

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        Remarketing and behavioral targeting

            Facebook Remarketing

            Personal Data: Cookies and Usage Data

        User database management

            Pipedrive

            Personal Data: various types of Data as specified in the privacy policy of the service

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Raison.ai collects some Personal Data from its Users.

What makes you think that we want a service who will collect their users' data for every step we do on your APP?

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I am with seoincorporation on this one, that is where you need to set your limits in your company, I'll understand a KYC requirement for your business if it is a compliance with the government but for data collecting purposes I don't think it will be necessary for everyone. You must set up this kind of data collection as a voluntary work and not a requirement as it will really make your business unattractive to anyone. Personal data is really something a customer will value and they don't want anyone touching it for the wrong purpose.

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February 13, 2019, 11:16:48 PM
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So I would be happy if bitcointalk users can participate in a small online cusdev survey answering several questions below:
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Appreciate very much! Every user registered on Raison and participated will get 15EUR on his account. You can check what we’ve currently launched at https://raison.ai.
do I need to get fully verified (KYCed) to participate in this survey?
I stopped at sign up Tongue because it asks for phone number
but if it just asks for phone number to complete registration, take survey, then get rewarded 
and no KYC on withdrawing the reward (convert to BTC first Wink), I might give it a try

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