De Minimis Units - US

[minefarmbuy]

Current de minimis units for import to the US by make and model. De minimis: under $800 value per shipment once per day.

*this is a manufacturer direct only list.

Antminer:

S9 SE- 430 USD
S9k- 263 USD

Innosilicon:

T2T 30T- 792 USD


Canaan: (disregarding any MOQ)

Avalon 1047 - $774 (November batch)
Avalon 1026 - $708-628 (all batches)

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[Raymond_B]

How do coupons affect the de minimis? With BM releasing a slew of coupons it puts the S15 at $680.00 after a $340 coupon.

[minefarmbuy]

How do coupons affect the de minimis? With BM releasing a slew of coupons it puts the S15 at $680.00 after a $340 coupon.

Duties are determined by unit cost when regarding the coding used by CBP and should be taken from the unit line of invoicing.

De minimis value is in relation to the maximum value of merchandise in one shipment per person per day.

Neither of these take in account discount or in this case coupons and would essentially be left to be determined by CBP or freight company for most (who don't file their own customs filings). Neither of which I would recommend to leave outside of our own/your control. Even getting three s9j's has been problematic as most have been delivered by each and through interpretation is multiple shipments, thankfully we try and run with the freight company we have the best the relationship with as often as we can.

Still though make it rain with coupons, Bitmain wants to liquidate and lead market. I would just do sale pricing for a month and a half call it good. Coupons good till end of Q1 tell me my earlier estimate of Q4 is way off. Bitmain is going to want their market share back and it will be up to other manufacturers to compete.

The psu though has been problematic, hopefully they figure that out and we can stop spamming new customers with a product alert to run 220v. A a home miner with 240v myself and limited resources I'll be looking at units I won't have to step my power down for.  

Essentially it can work with a favorable interpretation. Though I would prepare for duties.

[philipma1957]

the t15 is in stock  it is not taxed if you order 1

It comes to about 600 shipped to USA if you use the 250 coupon

the 250 coupon is now working.

[minefarmbuy]

Updated to included the M10.

Update for s9j pricing.

Update to add T2T 26T.

Edits and last best pricing updates.

[Trinislacker]

If an item is shipped to a known freight forwarder and a bill of lading for export can be provided. Would the taxes still apply?

[philipma1957]

If an item is shipped to a known freight forwarder and a bill of lading for export can be provided. Would the taxes still apply?

Translation ship them to Malaysia then to USA do I beat the trump tax.

Answer maybe you do.

Maybe you get caught.

May be a crime.

Now if bitmain was to ship multiple parts to Malaysia and the gear was assembled in Malaysia it may be 100% good to go. With no trump tax.

There are legal ways to avoid the tax. Pretty sure if you are a big player you can do it.

I have seen multiple listings for MOQ of 100 shipped from Malaysia.

I would worry if I did this as I suspect they are not avoiding the tax correctly.

[minefarmbuy]

Only unit's I've seen "from Malaysia" on are bitmain listings from resellers and Bitmain haven't confirmed they assemble there. I would be weary as well.

It's about country of origin. Even used units from another country are applicable to duties because of where they made.

[taserz]

They are being assembled there. For the most part to get it from Malaysia MOQ is 100 units if you have a relationship if you don't MOQ can be much higher. Assembled in Malaysia. I mean the chips are from taiwan and logic boards and cheap as hell to make and so are the shells.

[minefarmbuy]

Well hopefully something turns up and we can list something.

[taserz]

Well hopefully something turns up and we can list something.

Are you ordering them or just trying to pickup off someone after it is imported.

[minefarmbuy]

We would want to order them directly when more units are available.

[taserz]

We would want to order them directly when more units are available.

If you are ordering over 100 you can probably make it happen. It would be a pre-order for September delivery. I have a feeling majority of their stock is going to be pre-ordered before they put it on their site based off of the order of chips people speculated they got coming.

[philipma1957]

We would want to order them directly when more units are available.

If they are Malaysia assembled and avoid the trump tax legally I would want 5 to 10 of them.

I need 5 to 10 units of new gear for sure.

I might need 120 kwatts of gear beyond that.

But 5 to 10 s17s or something like this I need ASAP.

[taserz]

I can see if I can order more machines but I would have to ask the gentleman doing the group buy. The group buy is for a mining facility and their customers so I would have to see if there is a way to order them and then pick them up or something. You said ASAP but September is the next batch being released so I don't think there is any faster way without buying someone else's for a premium that already has one. If you want me to inquire I can call and find out if you wanted to host them with them I can more than likely make it happen. It's the facility we spoke about maybe a year ago over pm.

[Raymond_B]

Where is this hosting facility? I've been looking to host overseas to avoid Trumpf tax.

[taserz]

Where is this hosting facility? I've been looking to host overseas to avoid Trumpf tax.

Host I am talking about is located in New York. I have been trying to setup an overseas mine and got investors but if the new thing is miners coming from non heavily taxxed companies I might think otherwise. My goal was always Kosovo, Ukraine, Canada, USA in that order. Mainly due to little to no taxes and cheap power. While Canada and USA have higher taxes specially for importing + electricity is hard to find in USA at good rates.

[minefarmbuy]

Updated, sorry for overlooking this for a while.

[philipma1957]

Updated, sorry for overlooking this for a while.

Yeah  the t2 t30  at 792 looks decent.

[minefarmbuy]

Seems the pricing has been removed from Innos site and the s9k is out of stock.