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February 11, 2019, 07:18:32 PM
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Hi everyone,

Before i starting explaining my story i would like to recommend that you have a look at my trust rating or it probably won't make any sense.

So about 3 years ago, i was accused of holding an alt account and using that to enter a giveaway (2 entries) which was not fair.
I was caught by a community member TwitchySeal.

I was given many negative feedbacks for such action from TwitchySeal, actmyname and DarkStar_ as well as neutral from Lutpin and Timelord2067.
Today i came here to apologize to everybody for what i did 3 years ago.
I stopped staying online much ever since even though my account was not affected i guess since those guys were not on DT2 (not sure as i don't remember).

I was a very responsible member of this community and i called out many scams and reported many spam posts which i got to learn from mexxer-2 back then.

I started having some personal issues and i barely came online after that
In last 3 years i have realized what i did was wrong. I have been through a lot of change since then
I am a Web developer now and i like experimenting with Lightning as i see it has a lot of potential than we can think of.
Maybe someday i will contribute to the bitcoin code. I don't see myself that qualified yet but i really want to

It took me a lot of courage to actually write this letter. What i did was past. 3 years brings a lot of change in a person
I really hope this community forgives me and gives me a second chance.

Edit : Let me know if you guys have any questions for me
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February 11, 2019, 09:09:02 PM
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Welcome back. I see only one negative feedback on your profile which was left by actmyname, others is neutral. You can try contacting him in personal, maybe he will delete his feedback or change it to neutral. If not, you can try to be good member of community, report scams and abuse, help other members and in this way prove that you're trustworthy member.




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February 11, 2019, 09:38:59 PM
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I would hope acctmyname does not remove the negative feedback until you at least participate positively in the community for a few months.

It's not like you made a mistake and then tried to redeem yourself for three years.   You simply left the forum, let some time pass and now you want to come back as if you did nothing wrong.

Prove that you deserve a second chance.

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February 11, 2019, 09:39:33 PM
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This is the right way to request remove negative feedback's although its depend who have left you that feedback's. I like this strategy to request. Since you are accepting your mistake and you will never repeat again I think you deserve a chance. I believe actmyname will reconsider this case and he will turn into neutral and admin also encourage to forgive past mistakes. Seems your feedback almost 3 years back.

You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

You can send a PM to actmyname and request him for reconsideration.

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February 11, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
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I would hope acctmyname does not remove the negative feedback until you at least participate positively in the community for a few months.

It's not like you made a mistake and then tried to redeem yourself for three years.   You simply left the forum, let some time pass and now you want to come back as if you did nothing wrong.

Prove that you deserve a second chance.
I don't necessarily disagree with this, but I salute OP for at least coming clean about his wrongdoing.  It sounded sincere, and that's more than can be said for a lot of these cases.  I'd also point hat he did was dishonest but wasn't anywhere near the magnitude of, say, Master-P dishonesty.  

Ultimately it's not up to me, but I vote for mercy in this situation--perhaps after a certain period of time or whatever.  That's up to the DT members who tagged him.  Not sure if Lutpin is still around these days

Edit: OP's trust shows up as green for me, likely because I excluded Lutpin.  I'm sure that varies, and I don't know how red he looks to others.  Lutpin was once very trustworthy, but after the 777Coin/Bitvest campaign fiasco....ugh.

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February 11, 2019, 10:38:50 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree with this, but I salute OP for at least coming clean about his wrongdoing.

My removal of trust is well laid out in my signature.  So many people get negative trust, go offline for 30 days, then come back and ask me to remove the trust.

If I were to do that, what consequence would there be for trying to scam?  People would just mark 30 days on their calendar and use other alts - would not affect them in the least bit.

I'm all for forgiveness,  but you have to put time in to show you are sincere - not just have a database of accounts you can use after enough time has passed.

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February 12, 2019, 04:01:46 AM
Last edit: February 12, 2019, 04:11:50 AM by Timelord2067
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-<(snip)>-
I was given many negative feedbacks for such action from TwitchySeal, actmyname and DarkStar_ as well as neutral from Lutpin and Timelord2067.
-<(snip)>-
Edit : Let me know if you guys have any questions for me

Have just come across this post, two questions:

  • Are my two *neutral* trust posts correct?
  • How many alts do you have, are you prepared to name them (either here or in PM) and would you be prepared to have those alts either nuked or their passwords changed so that you cannot access them again?

*edit*

I've just had a read of my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17067724#msg17067724 (Archive) you went cap in hand to mexxer-2 back in 2015 for pretty much the same thing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg17065126#msg17065126 (Archive)

Timelord2067's Timely Test and Main-neT LighTning Loans to a "T"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184177.0
main-net BTC 0.0001 loans, test-net BTC 0.001 loans 1% seven days max.
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February 12, 2019, 10:19:21 AM
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Welcome back. I see only one negative feedback on your profile which was left by actmyname, others is neutral. You can try contacting him in personal, maybe he will delete his feedback or change it to neutral. If not, you can try to be good member of community, report scams and abuse, help other members and in this way prove that you're trustworthy member.

Thanks mate. I actually did and he removed
A very kind and forgiving member of this community i would say

You simply left the forum, let some time pass and now you want to come back as if you did nothing wrong.

I didn't really left the forum. I was still coming back to make some posts

Prove that you deserve a second chance.

I will. Though i still won't be posting much again at least for now. I probably would be stumbling around Bitcoin Technical Support and Development and Technical Support boards
Signature campaigns and giveaways are not my thing anymore. But i might involve in some trades
I am working on my own projects right now

This is the right way to request remove negative feedback's although its depend who have left you that feedback's. I like this strategy to request. Since you are accepting your mistake and you will never repeat again I think you deserve a chance. I believe actmyname will reconsider this case and he will turn into neutral and admin also encourage to forgive past mistakes. Seems your feedback almost 3 years back.

You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

You can send a PM to actmyname and request him for reconsideration.

Thanks Coolcryptovator. Both DarkStar_ and actmyname were kind enough to remove the negative feedback on request.
Thugh the request was made before this post, i thought writing an apology letter towards the community was the right thing to do

I don't necessarily disagree with this, but I salute OP for at least coming clean about his wrongdoing.  It sounded sincere, and that's more than can be said for a lot of these cases.  I'd also point hat he did was dishonest but wasn't anywhere near the magnitude of, say, Master-P dishonesty. 

Thanks mate. 3 years is a really long time for a change. Behavior and career wise


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February 12, 2019, 10:30:50 AM
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Just a quick request: If you are planning on returning on forum please sign a message from the old address staked so that we can verify the account owner is same from the way back then. Hope you will be able to do that.
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February 12, 2019, 10:37:24 AM
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Just a quick request: If you are planning on returning on forum please sign a message from the old address staked so that we can verify the account owner is same from the way back then. Hope you will be able to do that.

The links in my post point to signed messages by xinzark so that would be a starting point for signed messages.

Timelord2067's Timely Test and Main-neT LighTning Loans to a "T"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184177.0
main-net BTC 0.0001 loans, test-net BTC 0.001 loans 1% seven days max.
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February 12, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
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-<(snip)>-
I was given many negative feedbacks for such action from TwitchySeal, actmyname and DarkStar_ as well as neutral from Lutpin and Timelord2067.
-<(snip)>-
Edit : Let me know if you guys have any questions for me

Have just come across this post, two questions:

  • Are my two *neutral* trust posts correct?
  • How many alts do you have, are you prepared to name them (either here or in PM) and would you be prepared to have those alts either nuked or their passwords changed so that you cannot access them again?

*edit*

I've just had a read of my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17067724#msg17067724 (Archive) you went cap in hand to mexxer-2 back in 2015 for pretty much the same thing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg17065126#msg17065126 (Archive)

I was going to post all the accounts here but saw some details which i didn't felt right to make public so i am going to pm you
You can make a confirmation post when all your questions are answered
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February 12, 2019, 10:49:03 AM
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Just a quick request: If you are planning on returning on forum please sign a message from the old address staked so that we can verify the account owner is same from the way back then. Hope you will be able to do that.

The address i staked was from a blockchain info wallet.
I switched to trezor in 2017

I should still have access to that wallet. And i hope they allow to sign messages
I will soon be staking a new address from my trezor
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February 12, 2019, 11:28:40 AM
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Here is the signed message. Let me know if you guys have anymore questions

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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is xinzark from Bitcointalk.org. Today is 12th Feb 2019
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 1KBcdRxzPaC4XWkkJBFz4eNemhN64f6EbC
H4TihYyl1Fc++V2h+mwP7qMONHRFkdfkNb8jslOyBtKCOzGVLMm4kLq3AUrQFUJkBwnTHGoICfF8UJsvSbZVZu0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
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February 12, 2019, 11:53:05 AM
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Here is the signed message. Let me know if you guys have anymore questions

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is xinzark from Bitcointalk.org. Today is 12th Feb 2019
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 1KBcdRxzPaC4XWkkJBFz4eNemhN64f6EbC
H4TihYyl1Fc++V2h+mwP7qMONHRFkdfkNb8jslOyBtKCOzGVLMm4kLq3AUrQFUJkBwnTHGoICfF8UJsvSbZVZu0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Thanks for the confirmation with your signed message that you are a Alt of OldScammer- GotaPauj



kishann889 is already connected with xinzark (Check Timelord2067's feedback on xinzark's profile)

My account at Betchain : kishangupta280@gmail.com

Please credit the bonus fast

I have also pmed You

(Archive: http://archive.fo/5sEo9#selection-5531.0-5531.24)


same email-id was used by coolcoin:


Contact me here : Kishangupta280@gmail.com

now i will not make new posts
i will edit the previous one
i don't want to spam this forum

(Archive: http://archive.fo/A3dOj#selection-1667.1-1667.24)


Now coolcoin posts this:

I found a way to profit but don't have enough btc to test it.
I need 0.02 btc. I will pay in November 29 with 8 percent interest rate.

Bitcoin Address: 14REnxeLBk4WQg3Dj8FaDYrDCBQ3axuhsV


(Archive: http://archive.fo/EhVaV#selection-4119.17-4119.51)


14REnxeLBk4WQg3Dj8FaDYrDCBQ3axuhsV is a part of wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/036b2897138b128b/addresses

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1ErAcU6sMtEwqB1NBdAxPEWvEfTzKHrenK 0.         10 343532
14REnxeLBk4WQg3Dj8FaDYrDCBQ3axuhsV 0.         7 340035
1LP5QBNy8zBwox8FtLKgiuDypKjUFpH3Kp 0.         5 334222
1Kbac8ThvsgDYMFxtkFWj2npjXxRbGyvvc 0.         2 342965
14R6dx11JtR7UQ1H1Nm5aQwKNv9X2Z5VPj 0.         2 333079
12kBs4hNUXz4gRFiet2tjjCpbQiN7A5bEp 0.         2 332839
18qEr3CYgEzW6vKJFXX6CeNwKQyTn7S3Nc 0.         2 332839
1PSHYHr8u4HZ4ixA4ZThxFsSbaTysfaBe5 0.         2 332839
16TmWy4vgosU8tpawJUTQYAeqy8m3bYxJL 0.         1 343657
12ndFiVSDANZ4dBeuDX8gPEc4N5gzE2Djw 0.         1 342965
12sygecGNvVwXCUpvqKEc148Ehb3BsBmQu 0.         1 342965
14K8BDVsm5r8F9A6oiNAdSQbLyc9Edr1hF 0.         1 342965
18mFeVgve1SGWwZyVqXaJSqxwUChNKddzu 0.         1 342965
18wb4y8quhEQzSfEQig6s1qz6LB9dj3mgs 0.         1 342965
17GeUmqVSN7kr73SQUHd5Xd8GtgKMSfCJw 0.         1 340035
1J7ajUb6PL4VP7TgQU6CumxuQtDxpjXgQS 0.         1 340035
12osRXHNroJF2zvkgXZwkXx9jZzFh6Zkjo 0.         1 332839
19iLqtdC2azMz9xXUjGrhdsACzoK7YUdfv 0.         1 332839
1DZs1t5WyWuucU7KHEEFhAothRu9ppFU55 0.         1 332839
1LDLnXU62psG6cMrLrTkNSAx4oxk36j8vj 0.         1 332839
1LreREdDZcKxvK6UiL5nhQtts9oaJaBt2r 0.         1 332839
1NHLsiyq9eNJaW5J3JmXrqtEQ6cZCVbosW 0.         1 332839
1NiWWDYUoPS2D3rzf8rAa44C2Ew1iny1mF 0.         1 332839
139AHVyADJtsX6yfn4uwdA7BMEyCrG7x9E 0.         1 332835
14fGdvKMD3Bt2uYf9YNfjVeUwihyPaAGHo 0.         1 332835
19ippMxgGJw4hDPzxf8qSFHKcdT1fYSyTN 0.         1 332835
19sb3NrNTr39PmaSWKQSsNxD4KX69LQaro 0.         1 332835
19yqqsYrzAqMb6jmbFpE6j8ENQjsbzQ9Et 0.         1 332835
1DdKXyZns5QHz8oj54XcqZNyvYdXqHHVrM 0.         1 332835
1GHKmpvusGEkTXVvKnBYNi3QafJTsz4rXj 0.         1 332835
1Jx9p8BaAdpBsUtCeZidVipp3t4P9bjCFQ 0.         1 332835
1KMioJrfpUZeR5uLyCiskCxv3dMFsKdSV2 0.         1 332835
1MCCGx6tZjxAYdWN7nXrUP5KDqESVJJ7JM 0.         1 332835
1MpK6i3KptZw9BK9hgWAb8p247gE4Ar5Gm 0.         1 332835
1NPQBNA4uefm5Ztji9qHZukFLz5nt1L7Bm 0.         1 332835
1PobV2zehfDH25puXtPqqUfvbLPgYYJTmg 0.         1 332835
13sL8WuxyNi6M9APGecU31p1sjFSFFr7S3 0.         1 331328
1EhA2SJpc1gZTZmGRZQtmmaffPSjuzraq2 0.         1 331328
1ADTNgjxHd7SxNzgdaz8M8i492VngyWMGT 0.         1 330788

out of which 1ErAcU6sMtEwqB1NBdAxPEWvEfTzKHrenK was posted by iram66680 who is Alt of GotaPauj (Operator of bitcoinblackfriday.info-Check feedbacks) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17324936#msg17324936

Loan Amount : 0.035 btc
Reason          : I'm paying a course in udemy.com
BTC Address  : 1ErAcU6sMtEwqB1NBdAxPEWvEfTzKHrenK
Term Length   : 8

(Archive: http://archive.fo/8N36i#selection-2989.15-2989.49)


coolcoin is connected to this ring of 31 accounts here (keeping the 2 accounts aside that is connected to xinzark) as posted in this investigation here (reported by Lutpin & kingaltcoins):  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14005963#msg14005963



Now lets what as a constructive user you did here: Probably connected few accounts and warned others?

And lets weigh the other side:

1) Accounts Buyer/Seller. It wasn't a problem at that time but you were using them to scam and default loans.  And somehow I think that you were after getting your accounts negged. Check iram66680 and magemist for instance.
2) Defaulted many loans check iram66680, cyrusb(I though am unsure about cyrusb due to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1041009.msg11235253#msg11235253) . My best guess you were taking loans to gamble and defaulted when you were unable to pay. Obviously it didn't hurt you at all since you had already a good no. of accounts back then. So it was easy to move over to next account wasn't it?
3) Operator of scam site: GotaPauj. Check trust page of the profile.
4) Used alt accounts to abuse giveaways on a mass level: If you check the report by Lutpin you will see that he abused a giveaway by 28 times!!


Now I wonder and want to ask if is it something that community should forgive because he scammed in past? It was no mistake that he chose to default loans,scam users and abuse giveaways.

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February 12, 2019, 12:00:24 PM
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This is what i sent to Timelord2067 earlier

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Accounts i have actually held and posted with :

kishan889 : My very first account. Started from Newbie and made it Full Member. Got locked out by using Secret Question to reset password
Ajatmoralez : I clearly said kishan889 is my account from this account and appealed to get my previous account back. I probably have a perma ban in this Account
shadowmoon : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
coolcoin : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
madhatter. : Got a perma ban back in 2014
RoAnonymous : Account was dumped in 2016 with a random password.

I have no relation with any other accounts
Let me know if you have any other questions

Edit : shadowmoon, coolcoin and madhatter. were bought accounts
Edit2 : Even this xinzark account was bought back in 2015 from zazarb when it was at full memeber rank. Previous owner defaulted on loan so he sold that account to me
Back then taking accounts as collateral and selling them wasn't that bad. Atleast there wasn't this ICO rush
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February 12, 2019, 12:09:46 PM
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Now I wonder and want to ask if is it something that community should forgive because he scammed in past? It was no mistake that he chose to default loans,scam users and abuse giveaways.

I have never ever in my life scammed anybody. Please don't put such accusations on me
I have clearly mentioned the accounts i have held so far
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February 12, 2019, 12:12:06 PM
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This is what i sent to Timelord2067 earlier

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Accounts i have actually held and posted with :

kishan889 : My very first account. Started from Newbie and made it Full Member. Got locked out by using Secret Question to reset password
Ajatmoralez : I clearly said kishan889 is my account from this account and appealed to get my previous account back. I probably have a perma ban in this Account
shadowmoon : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
coolcoin : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
madhatter. : Got a perma ban back in 2014
RoAnonymous : Account was dumped in 2016 with a random password.

I have no relation with any other accounts
Let me know if you have any other questions

Edit : shadowmoon, coolcoin and madhatter. were bought accounts
Edit2 : Even this xinzark account was bought back in 2015 from zazarb when it was at full memeber rank. Previous owner defaulted on loan so he sold that account to me
Back then taking accounts as collateral and selling them wasn't that bad. Atleast there wasn't this ICO rush

Any proof of any kind (transaction details with chat screenshots if by any chance you are able to retrieve at this point) to support your statement. Have you provided proof to Timelord2067 in the PM? Without it simply looks like a hollow claim to me.



EDIT:

Now I wonder and want to ask if is it something that community should forgive because he scammed in past? It was no mistake that he chose to default loans,scam users and abuse giveaways.

I have never ever in my life scammed anybody. Please don't put such accusations on me
I have clearly mentioned the accounts i have held so far

Maybe yes or maybe not? But to be on a safer side I am gonna assume you are connected unless you provide of some sorts to prove your innocence.

See I have provided my report on the basis of the connections and solid evidence but I might be wrong if you bought/sold accounts which only you can prove as I have asked above.
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February 12, 2019, 12:13:24 PM
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This is what i sent to Timelord2067 earlier

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Accounts i have actually held and posted with :

kishan889 : My very first account. Started from Newbie and made it Full Member. Got locked out by using Secret Question to reset password
Ajatmoralez : I clearly said kishan889 is my account from this account and appealed to get my previous account back. I probably have a perma ban in this Account
shadowmoon : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
coolcoin : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
madhatter. : Got a perma ban back in 2014
RoAnonymous : Account was dumped in 2016 with a random password.

I have no relation with any other accounts
Let me know if you have any other questions

Edit : shadowmoon, coolcoin and madhatter. were bought accounts
Edit2 : Even this xinzark account was bought back in 2015 from zazarb when it was at full memeber rank. Previous owner defaulted on loan so he sold that account to me
Back then taking accounts as collateral and selling them wasn't that bad. Atleast there wasn't this ICO rush

Any proof of any kind (transaction details with chat screenshots if by any chance you are able to retrieve at this point) to support your statement. Have you provided proof to Timelord2067 in the PM? Without it simply looks like a hollow claim to me.

Which specific proof you are looking for ?
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February 12, 2019, 12:22:46 PM
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This is what i sent to Timelord2067 earlier

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Accounts i have actually held and posted with :

kishan889 : My very first account. Started from Newbie and made it Full Member. Got locked out by using Secret Question to reset password
Ajatmoralez : I clearly said kishan889 is my account from this account and appealed to get my previous account back. I probably have a perma ban in this Account
shadowmoon : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
coolcoin : Used to participate sig campaigns with this. Got a perma ban back in 2014
madhatter. : Got a perma ban back in 2014
RoAnonymous : Account was dumped in 2016 with a random password.

I have no relation with any other accounts
Let me know if you have any other questions

Edit : shadowmoon, coolcoin and madhatter. were bought accounts
Edit2 : Even this xinzark account was bought back in 2015 from zazarb when it was at full memeber rank. Previous owner defaulted on loan so he sold that account to me
Back then taking accounts as collateral and selling them wasn't that bad. Atleast there wasn't this ICO rush

Any proof of any kind (transaction details with chat screenshots if by any chance you are able to retrieve at this point) to support your statement. Have you provided proof to Timelord2067 in the PM? Without it simply looks like a hollow claim to me.

Which specific proof you are looking for ?

Regarding CoolCoin- Provide proof with chat screenshots and transaction details if you have them. And btw aren't you evading ban if you happen to post still after getting banned from coolcoin and shadowmoon.

Now I am starting to wonder if mods/staff/admin also can reconsider their ban actions?
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February 12, 2019, 12:26:24 PM
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EDIT:

Now I wonder and want to ask if is it something that community should forgive because he scammed in past? It was no mistake that he chose to default loans,scam users and abuse giveaways.

I have never ever in my life scammed anybody. Please don't put such accusations on me
I have clearly mentioned the accounts i have held so far

Maybe yes or maybe not? But to be on a safer side I am gonna assume you are connected unless you provide of some sorts to prove your innocence.

See I have provided my report on the basis of the connections and solid evidence but I might be wrong if you bought/sold accounts which only you can prove as I have asked above.

I probably bought those accounts using my Ajatmoralez id which i can't access. I have the password thogh
If you can get that unlocked then i will provide all the proofs you need

Regarding this xinzark account, i have pms as proof. And master-P acted as escrow in this deal  Tongue
I can also get zazarb to confirm it

Regarding CoolCoin- Provide proof with chat screenshots and transaction details if you have them. And btw aren't you evading ban if you happen to post still after getting banned from coolcoin and shadowmoon.

Now I am starting to wonder if mods/staff/admin also can reconsider their ban actions?

I haven't posted with coolcoin and shadowmoon after getting banned. What are you talking about ?

Edit : I am trying to login to all those accounts again. Let's see what i can dig
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