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February 14, 2019, 05:55:01 AM
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What happened:: FAKE TEAM MEMBER ON ICO PAGE

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2544721

ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190214053003/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0

Sportsbook and Casino website: https://www.bitbook.ag/
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190214053807/https://www.bitbook.ag/

ICO website: https://ico.bitbook.ag/
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190214053334/https://ico.bitbook.ag/en/

Fake Team Profile: CEO Andrés Martínez



Real Person in the Picture Diego Felipe Márquez Arango
Profession ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY
Source http://www.delhierroabogados.com/diego-felipe-marquez/



Additional Notes

Do not participate in the ICO. The Presence of a fake team member is a sign that it's scam. The online gambling site should be avoided too.

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February 14, 2019, 03:33:02 PM
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Good job OP finding this project with a fake CEO.
We posted on their ANN and we expect them to answer to this accusation. Any serious company would defend themselves and provide valid evidence.
In this case, a FAKE CEO image - stealing someone's identity - is not good for them.

We found another picture of him:




https://www.asuntoslegales.com.co/analisis/diego-marquez-arango-2610779

https://www.linkedin.com/in/diego-m%C3%A1rquez-arango-74115634 (no image)

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Good job OP finding this project with a fake CEO.
We posted on their ANN and we expect them to answer to this accusation. Any serious company would defend themselves and provide valid evidence.
In this case, a FAKE CEO image - stealing someone's identity - is not good for them.

Thanks too for getting further details about the real person behind the profile. Am also waiting for them to come out and defend themselves instead of using newbie accounts  to bump their ANN thread as I have seen a few moments back.

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Dear members of Bitcointalk,

The executive board of Bitbook.ag hired Andres Martinez as nominee director to represent the company. Having a nominee director is common practice in Costa Rica and other Caribbean countries.

However due to mistake of the company register agent, they provided us with the wrong photo, and that photo belonged to Diego Marquez Arango. Since Andres Martinez resides in Costa Rica and has not met other members of the team and has facial similarity with Diego Marquez Arango this mistake went unnoticed.

After detecting this issues Bitbook.ag took immediate action to solve this issues and assures that the responsible people will be penalised.

As a proof of our statement we are attaching registration document of Bitbook.ag as well the identification document of Andres Martinez.

https://imgur.com/a/xgJQfRW
https://imgur.com/a/HucMcKX

In addition we’d like to thank people on Bitcointalk in their fight with scam and for bringing this to our attention.

The Bitbook.ag team
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New thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110344.0
Archived: http://archive.fo/UCv3I

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However due to mistake of the company register agent, they provided us with the wrong photo, and that photo belonged to Diego Marquez Arango. Since Andres Martinez resides in Costa Rica and has not met other members of the team and has facial similarity with Diego Marquez Arango this mistake went unnoticed.

Same old excuse time after time when scammers here are busted for having fake profiles. I think you guys need to work on a new excuse because that line is getting pretty boring these days.

1. You hired a man who is supposed to be your CEO and you even don't know how he looks like?

2. How does the man in the ID even have any facial similarity with Diego Marquez Arango?
All you did was copy and image from a different website (which is funny because it had the name Diego Marquez Arango) and then you put it into your website and started calling him Andres Martinez (Photo is 100% a match, not even a slight distortion)

3. Diego Felipe Márquez Arango is an associate attorney from Colombia, how does his picture end up into the company registry books in Costa Rica, which is 1,191 km way?
I tell you how... It's through a scam online casino and ICO.

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February 16, 2019, 05:46:40 AM
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Is it me or anyone also thinks like that they have hired some bumping service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110353.msg49763107#msg49763107

Unlike some, there are some newbies posting it as a great idea and posting some minutes apart from each other.
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Is it me or anyone also thinks like that they have hired some bumping service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110353.msg49763107#msg49763107

Unlike some, there are some newbies posting it as a great idea and posting some minutes apart from each other.
I also saw them. Am very sure it a bumping service because i have seen them on every thread the accused has started.
What's the best course of action for them?
If it's getting them tagged, it will help you gather their profiles here and the threads they have posted in... if it's just reporting to mods, then i will do that too

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Dear members of Bitcointalk,

The executive board of Bitbook.ag hired Andres Martinez as nominee director to represent the company. Having a nominee director is common practice in Costa Rica and other Caribbean countries.

However due to mistake of the company register agent, they provided us with the wrong photo, and that photo belonged to Diego Marquez Arango. Since Andres Martinez resides in Costa Rica and has not met other members of the team and has facial similarity with Diego Marquez Arango this mistake went unnoticed.

After detecting this issues Bitbook.ag took immediate action to solve this issues and assures that the responsible people will be penalised.

As a proof of our statement we are attaching registration document of Bitbook.ag as well the identification document of Andres Martinez.

https://imgur.com/a/xgJQfRW
https://imgur.com/a/HucMcKX

In addition we’d like to thank people on Bitcointalk in their fight with scam and for bringing this to our attention.

The Bitbook.ag team
This is either very incompetent of a "huge" casino that is looking to raise millions via crowdfunding, or another sloppy attempt to cover up your true identity in an attempt to keep the scam afloat for a couple more weeks. This aside, the project doesn't look very unique and there are much better options out there such as stake, primedice, bitsler, fortunejack. You aren't really solving a problem here (because there isn't one) with the project, but you are asking for millions.

It also says you've sold 300,000,077 BXK Tokens which roughly equate to 22MIL? Is there proof of this, because I am unable to find such proof of these sales.

Is it me or anyone also thinks like that they have hired some bumping service: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110353.msg49763107#msg49763107

Unlike some, there are some newbies posting it as a great idea and posting some minutes apart from each other.
100% that's the case. Doesn't help their case at all.

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New ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110339.0
archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190216192628/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110339.0

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Same old excuse time after time when scammers here are busted for having fake profiles. I think you guys need to work on a new excuse because that line is getting pretty boring these days.

1. You hired a man who is supposed to be your CEO and you even don't know how he looks like?

2. How does the man in the ID even have any facial similarity with Diego Marquez Arango?
All you did was copy and image from a different website (which is funny because it had the name Diego Marquez Arango) and then you put it into your website and started calling him Andres Martinez (Photo is 100% a match, not even a slight distortion)

3. Diego Felipe Márquez Arango is an associate attorney from Colombia, how does his picture end up into the company registry books in Costa Rica, which is 1,191 km way?
I tell you how... It's through a scam online casino and ICO.

1. You really don't know what nominee director means? Have a look here: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/nominee-director.html
It's a very common practice with off-shore companies to protect the identity of the real owners. And yes, the real owners most often never meet with this nominee director.

2. To me they do look a bit a like. Not much, but I can understand how this could have gone unnoticed. The photo on your ID is often not the best of you.

3. Because we have internet. In my opinion it's possible that the legal agency in Costa Rica did some business with legal agency from Columbia and thus had a photo of this other person in their possession. And I guess they just mixed it up, because people are stupid and mistakes happen.

To me this explanation sounds plausible. And since they provided documents to support this, the only mistake I see is the wrong photo and I can totally believe that mistakes with photos can happen.
Based on high volume marketing they do, they have money and rich people are not gonna steal peanuts. Managing legit casino is much more profitable than running a scam. You're not gonna be able to scam lot of money with an ICO these days, but you can make millions with legit online casino. So what's the point to scam?

And if you wonder why these guys hired a nominee director in a first place, well it's because crazy people will be pounding on their doors if something bad happens, and I guess they just want to protect their families from all the rage guys like you can provoke.

How I see this, all those negative comments come from people that are just angry and jerks. This forum is generally very negative and full of hate, it's easy to do this hidden behind an nickname, because online you don't risk getting your ass kicked.

And if you are wondering why I'm writing from a "newbie" account. Well it's because I want to protect my real account, and don't want some "full" or "hero" member asshole giving me negative trust, just because he does not agree with me, and yes I have seen this happen on several occasions. This forum is full of cronyism: if you don't agree with us, we will destroy you.

P.S. And your comments about bumping service? Shit. You expect that ICO will not try to promote them? There's nothing wrong in bumping a topic, it's just marketing. If you want to blame someone, blame the administrator for not allowing ICOs to advertise on Bitcointalk. Perhaps if he would allow, there would be no reason to use other means.
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... How I see this, all those negative comments come from people that are just angry and jerks.
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... wondering why I'm writing from a "newbie" account. Well it's because I want to protect my real account, and don't want some "full" or "hero" member asshole ....
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... This forum is full of cronyism: if you don't agree with us, we will destroy you.


Base on your comments, you appear to be very angry. Perhaps you should consider leaving this forum that you consider "full of hate" and "asshole"(s)

This forum is becoming the cleanest place for legitimate ICOs, thanks to the hard work of the community exposing scams.

But unfortunately, there are people out there that don't want to see the forum clean from scams/scammers - and appear that you are one of them.


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Okay so what's your purpose in this forum again?
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To defend fraud and rubbish?
Take your rubbish and scam elsewhere, we don't need it in Bitcointalk.

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February 18, 2019, 12:51:01 AM
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Dear members of Bitcointalk,

The executive board of Bitbook.ag hired Andres Martinez as nominee director to represent the company.
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As a proof of our statement we are attaching registration document of Bitbook.ag as well the identification document of Andres Martinez.

https://imgur.com/a/xgJQfRW
https://imgur.com/a/HucMcKX
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Hello and Thanks for sending these documents:

It is confusing:

The document that you sent shows that Mr. Andres Martinez was hired as a "MANAGER" (Gerente - Spanish) and not as "Nominee Director".
Can you please explain the diference?



We can confirm his name, but not his identity - maybe he can provide a selfie holding a paper with today's date written on it.
https://www.consulta.tse.go.cr/consulta_persona/resultado_persona.aspx
https://www.consulta.tse.go.cr/consulta_persona/menu.htm


About the document that you provided for "Persona Juridica" = Bitbook:

1 - It is not authenticated

2 - at the National Registry of Costa Rica http://www.registronacional.go.cr/ https://www.rnpdigital.com/shopping/validacion.jspx
your RNPDIGITAL-6123-2019 certification show as expired.



and at https://www.hacienda.go.cr/ATV/frmConsultaImpPerJuridicas.aspx usind the "id number"for Bitbook ("persona juridica"number that is in the document):



It appears that Bitbook is already on DEFAULT in Costa Rica  (Moroso=Default)



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February 18, 2019, 01:41:21 PM
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Hello everyone, here Ignacio Guzman, Esq., legal advisor of Bitbook. I am also an enthusiast of Bitbook. Regarding your comment indicating that the company is "on default" due to tax obligations, that´s not right. In February, corpoation taxes (called "impuesto a las personas jurídicas") started to be charged. And, during February will be paid accordingly (it´s, more or less US$ 225). But it is important to understand that there are no collecting proceedings or any other legal or adminitrative charge in progress against Bitbook.





Dear members of Bitcointalk,

The executive board of Bitbook.ag hired Andres Martinez as nominee director to represent the company.
~
...
As a proof of our statement we are attaching registration document of Bitbook.ag as well the identification document of Andres Martinez.

https://imgur.com/a/xgJQfRW
https://imgur.com/a/HucMcKX
...


Hello and Thanks for sending these documents:

It is confusing:

The document that you sent shows that Mr. Andres Martinez was hired as a "MANAGER" (Gerente - Spanish) and not as "Nominee Director".
Can you please explain the diference?

http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/manager.JPG

We can confirm his name, but not his identity - maybe he can provide a selfie holding a paper with today's date written on it.
https://www.consulta.tse.go.cr/consulta_persona/resultado_persona.aspx
https://www.consulta.tse.go.cr/consulta_persona/menu.htm


About the document that you provided for "Persona Juridica" = Bitbook:

1 - It is not authenticated

2 - at the National Registry of Costa Rica http://www.registronacional.go.cr/ https://www.rnpdigital.com/shopping/validacion.jspx
your RNPDIGITAL-6123-2019 certification show as expired.

http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/doc1.JPG

and at https://www.hacienda.go.cr/ATV/frmConsultaImpPerJuridicas.aspx usind the "id number"for Bitbook ("persona juridica"number that is in the document):
http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/number.JPG


It appears that Bitbook is already on DEFAULT in Costa Rica  (Moroso=Default)
http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/moroso.JPG


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February 18, 2019, 05:08:34 PM
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@ICOethics

We have responded to all concerns so far. If you have any further questions please let us know.

Furthermore, we would like to emphasis few things:

1- We replied to all your questions and concerns about “fake team” and the wrong photo that was used. We also provided you with documents showing the Mr Martinez is in fact the director of the company.

2- The project is clearly not a scam because we already raised private funds and have already developed the website PRE-ICO. The website is already operational.

3. We value your work in uncovering ICO scams and all sort of fraud but we assure you that we are none of that.

We do not mind to continue dealing with you on any concerns. We can provide you with all the information you need. However we ask you to refrain from libelling us or labeling us as “scam” as it causes unfair damages to this project especially if we are not guilty of any wrongdoing!

Best regards.

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February 18, 2019, 05:54:14 PM
Last edit: February 18, 2019, 10:49:59 PM by ICOEthics
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@ICOethics

We have responded to all concerns so far. If you have any further questions please let us know.

Furthermore, we would like to emphasis few things:

1- We replied to all your questions and concerns about “fake team” and the wrong photo that was used. We also provided you with documents showing the Mr Martinez is in fact the director of the company.

2- The project is clearly not a scam because we already raised private funds and have already developed the website PRE-ICO. The website is already operational.

3. We value your work in uncovering ICO scams and all sort of fraud but we assure you that we are none of that.

We do not mind to continue dealing with you on any concerns. We can provide you with all the information you need. However we ask you to refrain from libelling us or labeling us as “scam” as it causes unfair damages to this project especially if we are not guilty of any wrongdoing!

Best regards.

The Bitbook.ag team

Hello,

Ignacio Guzman - your legal advisor - didn't answer the questions - just the one about taxes.  But the government website still showing that your company is in default - It is up to investors to trust what your lawyer says or to trust the website of the government of Costa Rica.

The other two questions were not explained - such as the difference between manager and director, as clearly state on the document that he is the manager. Also the document was not authenticated and it is already an expired certification.

As far as trusting who your manager/director is now, it is up to investors. In this business of ICO, with so many scams already caught out there with a fake team, it doesnt look good for any project and especially when such ICO project blame someone else for their own mistake. I would recommend you to make a video and provide to investors.

About calling you a scam - we are not calling you a scam. You were caught with a fake team member - which is what scammers are doing in the ICO business.
We posted on your ANN - "scam accusation"+ link to this thread. That is not calling you a scam or scammer, but we rephrased that to "Fake team member" + link to this thread.

It is just very strange that a "wrong" photo of your manager/director was published on your website - and he didn't recognize this???  And here you are still saying that "we are not guilty of any wrongdoing". As you know, as a company seeking funds and investors, you are the ones responsible for your website and all content.

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February 21, 2019, 04:52:06 PM
Last edit: February 22, 2019, 02:03:12 PM by ICOEthics
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They didnt respond to our last comment here, and instead, their angry CMO - Filip Poutintsev (scam promoter and teacher), created a thread on this forum to start FUD:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112217.0
archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190222140241/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112217.20 (edited) (added)

We asked him about his participation in previous scam and also about his article teaching how to scam a company. He refused to answer questions - and moved the thread.

Bottom line, we believe this project is very suspicious and investors should seriously consider investing in this project.

As we see - They had a Fake team member - which they replaced with a new one and provided documents, which is not authenticated and it is expired.
Their CMO has a few accusations against him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1268093
(Account buyer, bumping service, buy fake upvotes and a senior account on Reddit, adviser on scam, teaching how to scam a company, etc)

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February 21, 2019, 05:29:58 PM
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~snip~
It is just very strange that a "wrong" photo of your manager/director was published on your website - and he didn't recognize this???  And here you are still saying that "we are not guilty of any wrongdoing". As you know, as a company seeking funds and investors, you are the ones responsible for your website and all content.
I agree with you how can someone as high level as a CEO be provided with a mistaken identity? How did they even obtained that picture in the first place for their company? The picture they have took are on the lawyer's profile page for his firm's website and no one could have actually obtain that from anywhere except from downloading it purposely. A lot of red flagged ICOs from their fake team have used your reasoning already that someone from their departments "have used the wrong photo".

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February 21, 2019, 11:32:43 PM
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Confirmed scam.
They tried so much to cover their tracks but the so called "CMO" blew the cover wide open.
Anybody who goes ahead and uses their gambling platform or participates i the ICO will be considered not mentally upright.

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