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June 07, 2019, 02:19:53 AM
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Isn't it bitcoin reached this kind of price and isn't it that people made a lot of profits because of speculation? Dude, if nobody tried to speculate some things out of crytocurrency let's say bitcoin $100,000, nobody will hype the crowd and join cryptocurrency. We also need to speculate for hype. But, we need to understand that speculation comes with evidences.
Business is speculation, without it there is no challenge to get big profits because trade only runs flat. Entrepreneurs get rich because of speculation, meaning that the risks borne by the big are proportional to the profits obtained.
To trade crypto, the safest way to get a definite profit is to buy crypto then HODL until the price becomes expensive. For sale, then enjoy the profit. Being patient is the main factor because we don't know when prices will rise. That is the challenge.

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June 07, 2019, 08:22:11 AM
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Isn't it bitcoin reached this kind of price and isn't it that people made a lot of profits because of speculation? Dude, if nobody tried to speculate some things out of crytocurrency let's say bitcoin $100,000, nobody will hype the crowd and join cryptocurrency. We also need to speculate for hype. But, we need to understand that speculation comes with evidences.
Business is speculation, without it there is no challenge to get big profits because trade only runs flat. Entrepreneurs get rich because of speculation, meaning that the risks borne by the big are proportional to the profits obtained.
To trade crypto, the safest way to get a definite profit is to buy crypto then HODL until the price becomes expensive. For sale, then enjoy the profit. Being patient is the main factor because we don't know when prices will rise. That is the challenge.

I agree with that part that every business is speculation, trading is more speculating business from all others. Many times you do one thing, if its not good you try another and with deduction you find a solution, with trading you are always in trouble what to do next, what will price do, will it do the same as many times before or we will see some new type of swing.
In trading we don`t have what else to do, we speculate all the time with hope that we are right and that we will make some profit.

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June 07, 2019, 02:37:36 PM
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Traders do not speculate and earns both the fall and the growth of assets, not everyone will be able to cope with such activities, as it requires care, calculations, discipline and patience, this is not a niche where you can confidently buy a product and sell twice as expensive
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June 07, 2019, 06:34:31 PM
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Traders do not speculate and earns both the fall and the growth of assets, not everyone will be able to cope with such activities, as it requires care, calculations, discipline and patience, this is not a niche where you can confidently buy a product and sell twice as expensive

I don't think so because some of us speculate about the price movements and they speculate because the market is unpredicted. But they don't always speculate if they can find the right price to buy or sell because they have a guide in what price to trade. Speculate will have a risk but it is worth to do because when our speculation is right, we can make a lot of profit.

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June 07, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
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Since one is not certain in most cases as to where trend of the market will end or start another direction to some extent speculation cannot be separated from trading or trader's mind. Although, some people are of the believe that speculation is not different from gambling I don't blame them because they are entitled to their opinion.
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June 07, 2019, 07:23:50 PM
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Traders do not speculate and earns both the fall and the growth of assets, not everyone will be able to cope with such activities, as it requires care, calculations, discipline and patience, this is not a niche where you can confidently buy a product and sell twice as expensive

I don't think so because some of us speculate about the price movements and they speculate because the market is unpredicted. But they don't always speculate if they can find the right price to buy or sell because they have a guide in what price to trade. Speculate will have a risk but it is worth to do because when our speculation is right, we can make a lot of profit.
On point and definitely a true thing yet we are on a speculative market which means we do really need to speculate in order to make some possible profits if the market would move in according on what we do predicted.

The only thing that matters here that our speculations do have corresponding analysis attached to it.It might be unpredictable but having some basis on what you are doing
is always been better.

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June 08, 2019, 08:35:17 PM
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Isn't it bitcoin reached this kind of price and isn't it that people made a lot of profits because of speculation? Dude, if nobody tried to speculate some things out of crytocurrency let's say bitcoin $100,000, nobody will hype the crowd and join cryptocurrency. We also need to speculate for hype. But, we need to understand that speculation comes with evidences.
Business is speculation, without it there is no challenge to get big profits because trade only runs flat. Entrepreneurs get rich because of speculation, meaning that the risks borne by the big are proportional to the profits obtained.
To trade crypto, the safest way to get a definite profit is to buy crypto then HODL until the price becomes expensive. For sale, then enjoy the profit. Being patient is the main factor because we don't know when prices will rise. That is the challenge.
This is very important advise I think and it is enough to make someone millionaire if he or she follows your advice. I bet you have been in the crypto for long and of course have made money in speculating these coins. OF course it is the risk that makes you money and if you are a risk taker, there are more chances that you will end up making money than losing it.
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June 09, 2019, 03:05:43 AM
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I disagree, as far as I know even professional traders speculate, speculation plays a significant role in trading because if your are able to speculate accurately then you have high chances of getting profit. You can’t just trade without speculating because if you do then you might just lose.
speculation is important in the world of trade. with information, charts and more, we can make speculations, and possibilities that can occur in the future. although not 100%, I think that will be an important weapon of the world of commerce.
Most current traders consider this market a speculative market to make a big profit and they are only interested in making money. According to me, speculation is not bad but if this happens in the long term, this will affect the current market very much because they will sell when they reach the target and the value of that coin can decrease A very quick way if they hold a large number. I think speculators are in control of this market and they can decide the price increase of crypto at all times.

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June 09, 2019, 04:44:11 AM
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Trading is a form of gambling, based on speculations using available tools, depending on your skills and also the element of luck, some believe it is more luck that skill, that would not account for the regular success of traders.
We can not deny the fact that the market is unpredictable, one can only give their best guess on it's direction.

Indeed, even though in trading, speculation can not be avoided. However, before we speculate, we must gather a lot of data to analyze. The results of the analysis are what we use to speculate. Of course there are still other things to consider such as money management.

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June 11, 2019, 12:31:52 PM
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Since one is not certain in most cases as to where trend of the market will end or start another direction to some extent speculation cannot be separated from trading or trader's mind. Although, some people are of the believe that speculation is not different from gambling I don't blame them because they are entitled to their opinion.
Well to be honest some types of trading are gambling. Like the leveraged trading done on shitmex and other such sites and options/binary trading. They are even worse than gambling. I myself tell newbies to stay away from them and if they wish to trade then spot trading is the only thing to go for.

Speculation does happen in the market. This is the reason why such questions are being made. Some think its going up while others think the opposite. What you should remember is that nobody cares about what other traders say except the dumb ones. People are only manipulating others in social media so they can get the upper hand.

 
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June 12, 2019, 01:04:53 PM
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if not speculating is not a reliable trader, because speculation is very closely related to reliable traders.
and actually speculation is also the one that produces a lot of profits in trade.
without speculation the traders will not become rich  Cheesy

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June 12, 2019, 01:08:29 PM
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Sometimes, speculate is the only way to execute but only if it's emergency case.
In crypto, everything is totally unpredictable so analyzing the market is must because it's easier to obtain the profit if you can look the trend.
Yes, it isn't easy , Learning by doing is only the way !

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Sometimes, speculate is the only way to execute but only if it's emergency case.
In crypto, everything is totally unpredictable so analyzing the market is must because it's easier to obtain the profit if you can look the trend.
Yes, it isn't easy , Learning by doing is only the way !

Yes, I certainly agree with you that sometimes speculation is part of the complex trading processes here in cryptocurrency. The volatility of the prices of the coins, sometimes you can't do anything but to speculate. Technical analysis may fail espcially with the bearish trends.

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June 12, 2019, 02:35:16 PM
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Sometimes, speculate is the only way to execute but only if it's emergency case.
In crypto, everything is totally unpredictable so analyzing the market is must because it's easier to obtain the profit if you can look the trend.
Yes, it isn't easy , Learning by doing is only the way !

Yes, I certainly agree with you that sometimes speculation is part of the complex trading processes here in cryptocurrency. The volatility of the prices of the coins, sometimes you can't do anything but to speculate. Technical analysis may fail espcially with the bearish trends.
the specifications are the same as gambling and I'm sure that won't last long, because we will experience defeat if done continuously. this usually happens when traders are afraid to take cutloss steps

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June 12, 2019, 03:40:34 PM
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Sometimes, speculate is the only way to execute but only if it's emergency case.
In crypto, everything is totally unpredictable so analyzing the market is must because it's easier to obtain the profit if you can look the trend.
Yes, it isn't easy , Learning by doing is only the way !

Yes, I certainly agree with you that sometimes speculation is part of the complex trading processes here in cryptocurrency. The volatility of the prices of the coins, sometimes you can't do anything but to speculate. Technical analysis may fail espcially with the bearish trends.
the specifications are the same as gambling and I'm sure that won't last long, because we will experience defeat if done continuously. this usually happens when traders are afraid to take cutloss steps
Cutloss steps is something that traders must take if anything that he do is on his limit. That is what my friend always told me, even with speculation if it still can or have chance for us to survive when stuck or lose in trading, we must take it first before cutloss.

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June 12, 2019, 07:29:24 PM
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we still have to take into account the fact that any trade, even speculative in some way, can positively influence the development of a project.  But these opportunities should benefit the developers of those projects in question.  I mean the work on a real product, so that not only the coin was visually interesting and attractive, but the project itself was interesting for the society.

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June 12, 2019, 08:12:23 PM
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Yes, they do! Speculation is a part of the cryptocurrency and trade! If you want to be a good trader then you need to learn how to analyze the market trend and the price chart! Believe it or not, sometimes speculation helps trader a lot! But a good trader has a good way to speculate the price, that's different!

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June 12, 2019, 10:00:53 PM
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Yes, they do! Speculation is a part of the cryptocurrency and trade! If you want to be a good trader then you need to learn how to analyze the market trend and the price chart! Believe it or not, sometimes speculation helps trader a lot! But a good trader has a good way to speculate the price, that's different!
As a trader,there are a lot of speculations around but if you are really a good trader,speculations are not enough because you really have to make your own reseach and focus more on the market to come up with a good analysis.While speculations will not be avoided,i still prefer to make good analysis on the price charts first basically on my own.

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June 12, 2019, 11:17:16 PM
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Speculation is nearly the same like gambling, but trading is activity that the same like others business that we should be use risk management and trading plan. Beside that we should be have knowledge about technical analysis and how to predict trend of crypto market.

Actually almost the same even though indeed some people refuse to call it like gambling. Is this only due to analysis ? I think it's not ethic to say just by that
Speculating also sometimes works since analysis can't be 100% accurate.
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June 12, 2019, 11:50:25 PM
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if not speculating is not a reliable trader, because speculation is very closely related to reliable traders.
and actually speculation is also the one that produces a lot of profits in trade.
without speculation the traders will not become rich  Cheesy
Speculation is the job of every trader using TA, so i think we need to continue speculate because the market wont stop and stay on one price. Speculation can make us rich, and yeah don’t think speculation is bad you just have to do it in the right way. Its a part of the market, trader knows it and I have to start speculating now.

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