truthhood (OP)
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 10:35:08 AM |
|
I want to expose the truth for all of you. Technical analysis is an another form of manipulation. First of all, I run a 1 billion + crypto hedge fund and we know that TA's and news being used to manipulate your brains. Those are either promoted by pump & dump people or whales. Big TA sites like tradingview.com offer their visitors insights data for million bucks which can be used to gain lots of insights. Sites like Coindesk and Cointelegraph has corrupt authors who offer to write articles at $20,000.00 price tag. Usually, bigger whales hire Phd Physiology graduates to research and write articles then send to those corrupt authors for publication. We do have special fingerprinting algorithms to detect fake news in crypto sphere and the other dangerous manipulation is trading bots/software. The trading bot/software authors offer data from their software users usually at $5000.00 monthly price tag. My honest opinion is the bitcoin market is an another ponzi scheme. Bitcoin it-self not a ponzi scheme but the market is........... The next pump is planned to take place in Q1-Q2 range. I do have contacts with whales and manipulators. What they want is Institutional people but it's another marketing and hope hype. Whether it's Institutional or not, the expected pump will increase price upto $11,000 and back to $100.00. This is my final warning. Don't trust anybody. The earth is an another shit hole. No alien will meet us ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
|
|
|
|
aad140386
Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 420
Merit: 20
simply getting the job done
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 10:52:27 AM |
|
Each person has his own truth. Why do you think that it is your truth that deserves more confidence than the truth of other people? I know people who successfully trade for many years using technical analysis. Try to prove to them that they have been wrong all this time and technical analysis is a lie. It seems to me that if technical analysis has existed for so many years and many people have successfully used it, then it has the right to life. Otherwise, he would have gone down in history. I believe that there are certain mathematical algorithms by which patterns can be determined. Of course, the fact that big players can play against technical analysis is quite likely. But this is a market, anything happens here.
|
Mycro Jobs 〈 SIMPLY GETTING THE JOB DONE ⟩
|
|
|
Autumn_Rain
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 109
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 11:32:15 AM |
|
Everything is a lie ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I never got those TA anyway ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
|
|
|
|
Autumn_Rain
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 109
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 11:36:21 AM |
|
Each person has his own truth.
Two sides of a coin. A usual thing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Even from a philosophical point of view the Truth is quite subjective.
|
|
|
|
truthhood (OP)
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 12:04:27 PM |
|
Each person has his own truth. Why do you think that it is your truth that deserves more confidence than the truth of other people? I know people who successfully trade for many years using technical analysis. Try to prove to them that they have been wrong all this time and technical analysis is a lie. It seems to me that if technical analysis has existed for so many years and many people have successfully used it, then it has the right to life. Otherwise, he would have gone down in history. I believe that there are certain mathematical algorithms by which patterns can be determined. Of course, the fact that big players can play against technical analysis is quite likely. But this is a market, anything happens here.
I can prove. Easy. What will be the next price in one quarter? Who predicted last 2017 Dec's 20k price using TA? Ask them. You can't use TA in trading. it sucks. you always end up losing using funny cups. Those TA gurus are so funny. They hate to hear truth. Fearful. Your friends maybe lying you using TA as a coverup method. No one sell money for money. Same goes for strategy. In CNBC, I know fat scammer always say price go to 200k, 20k, 50k, 10k, 5k using TA ahahahhahahah guess who is ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Dog timmy Trading need data and it involve various data sources. Sure, one can use Google trends as a data source and make some profit but it's not long-term run as google vulnerable to automated keyword searching bots. So you gotta to find more data sources and clustering them. Data means money. TA means losers. TA is same as Casinos. It maybe have random chances but not much accurate. My fellow Hedge funds, Quanta funds never ever use TA to trade. TA is a method to fool people. Some using them as a coverup and some are using them as a manipulative tool. Coverup means they wanna to hide their real strategy. My 2 cents. If something so hard to understand then it's never ever work.
|
|
|
|
sindikat
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 12:18:36 PM |
|
I agree with you that the basis of the cryptocurrency market is manipulation. The trend of prices on all the exchanges specify trading bots. We don't even know if they actually have that many coins to bet on or if it's just the numbers we see. The main volume of sales of crypto is done outside the exchanges. But I'm not sure that bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. I believe in the future of bitcoin but after the opportunity to buy and sell it for dollars, it became subject to those who have a lot of dollars. They dictate prices and easily manipulate the market.
|
|
|
|
mk4
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2870
Merit: 3873
Paldo.io 🤖
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 12:50:06 PM |
|
I mean, it isn't new that news are potentially being used for manipulation, and I also really see that it's very very possible some YouTube TA-ers potentially going bullish just to potentially manipulate the prices upward, but I really don't know about the "special fingerprinting algorithms" and the "$5000/mo trading bot" you're claiming to have. I can prove. Easy.
What will be the next price in one quarter? Who predicted last 2017 Dec's 20k price using TA?
Ask them. You can't use TA in trading. it sucks. you always end up losing using funny cups. Those TA gurus are so funny. They hate to hear truth. Fearful.
I personally don't do TA, but TA isn't really for predicting prices. TA is just used as a guide to be able to see if the odds are in your favor or not, regardless how big or small the probability percentages are.
|
Curated Crypto Airdrop Database
|
|
|
Red-Apple
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 01:46:15 PM |
|
I run a 1 billion + crypto hedge fund
your business (if we can all it that) is failing because you chose a dumb thing to spend your time and money on. "crypto hedge fund" doesn't mean anything when 90% of altcoins are in fact shitcoins and the only way they go up and down is through pumps and dumps. in which case TA doesn't even apply so your whole argument here is moot. The next pump is planned to take place in Q1-Q2 range
this is another reason for your failures. you are not familiar with this market yet you insist on thinking you are an expert in it. pumps have been happening all along even when you started losing money at the beginning of 2018! it is just that the newbies left and the big top X altcoins stopped getting pumped. so stop blaming TA, bots, whales, aliens,... and stop being involved with pump and dump altcoins ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
|
--signature space for rent; sent PM--
|
|
|
tomahawk9
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 01:47:30 PM |
|
Sites like Coindesk and Cointelegraph has corrupt authors who offer to write articles at $20,000.00 price tag. Corrupt? Do you even know the amount fo traffic those sites have? They probably get around 8-figures of monthly traffic so asking that much to publish an article that'll reach hundreds of thousands of readers sounds like a fair deal. The content of the article is a whole different story. In CNBC, I know fat scammer always say price go to 200k, 20k, 50k, 10k, 5k using TA ahahahhahahah guess who is ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Dog timmy So, you shit on TA for trying to predict the price (which isn't the main purpose of TA, as @mjglqw pointed out), but then you go and do this: The next pump is planned to take place in Q1-Q2 range. the expected pump will increase price upto $11,000 and back to $100.00. Hmm, I wonder, who should I trust? The TA from a reputable person on CNBC, or some random stranger on the internet that's probably lying about running a 1 billion + crypto hedge fund?...Geez, I'm in a bit of a pickle right here (: Don't trust anybody.
Yeah, starting with you.
|
| | | . Duelbits | | | ▄████▄▄ ▄█████████▄ ▄█████████████▄ ▄██████████████████▄ ▄████▄▄▄█████████▄▄▄███▄ ▄████▐▀▄▄▀▌██▄█▄██▐▀▄▄▀▌███ ██████▀▀▀▀████▀███▀▀▀▀█████ ▐████████████■▄▄▄■██████████▀ ▐██████████████████████████▀ ██████████████████████████▀ ▀███████████████████████▀ ▀███████████████████▀ ▀███████████████▀ | | | | | . ▄ ▄▄▀▀▀▀▄▄ ▄▀▀▄ █ █ ▀▄ █ ▄█▄ ▀▄ █ ▄▀ ▀▄ ▀█▀ ▄▀ ▀█▄▄▄▀▀ ▀ ▄▀ ▄▀ ▄▀
Live Games | | ▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄ ▄▀ ▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▄▄ ▀▄ ▄▀ █ ▄ █ ▄ █ ▀▄ █ █ ▀ ▀ █ █ ▄▄▄ █ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ █ █ █ █▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█ █▄█ █ ▀▀█ ▀▀█ ▀▀█ █ █▄█
Slots | | . ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▄ █ ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ █ ▄▄ █ █ █ █ █ █ ▄▀▀▄▀▀▄ █ █ █ ▀▄ ▄▀ █ █
Blackjack | | | | █▀▀▀▀▀█▄▄▄ ▀████▄▄ ██████▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█▀ ▀▀█ ████████▄ █ █████████▄ █ ██████████▄ ▄██ █████████▀▀▀█▄▄████ ▀▀███▀▀ ████ █ ███ █ █▀ ▄█████▄▄▄ ▄▄▀▀ ███████▀▀▀ | | | | | | | | | | [ Đ ][ Ł ] AVAILABLE NOW | |
|
|
|
palle11
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 01:59:32 PM |
|
The next pump is planned to take place in Q1-Q2 range. I do have contacts with whales and manipulators.
The pump and the whales are the manipulators and not TA. The whales create artificial information in form of news to cause traders to panic as a result, take hasty decisions in the market. TA is always on it own and would have totally been controlling the market direction if not the manipulations coming from whales and big players like the banks.
|
|
|
|
buwaytress
Legendary
Online
Activity: 2912
Merit: 3596
Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 02:08:17 PM |
|
I will listen to OP because he runs a 1 billion + crypto fund and yet has taken a few minutes to present us with these rarest of black pearls of wisdom.
Why are we always making a fuss about sponsored content? Traditional media does it. Respected publications do it. Some academic journals have even been known to do it. Certainly most scientific mainstream publications do it.
I don't necessarily agree, but hey, we're paying $4k for bits and bytes, so why shouldn't people pay BTC's ATH for millions of readers?
Why are we whining again?
|
|
|
|
truthhood (OP)
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 02:54:59 PM |
|
I run a 1 billion + crypto hedge fund
your business (if we can all it that) is failing because you chose a dumb thing to spend your time and money on. "crypto hedge fund" doesn't mean anything when 90% of altcoins are in fact shitcoins and the only way they go up and down is through pumps and dumps. in which case TA doesn't even apply so your whole argument here is moot. The next pump is planned to take place in Q1-Q2 range
this is another reason for your failures. you are not familiar with this market yet you insist on thinking you are an expert in it. pumps have been happening all along even when you started losing money at the beginning of 2018! it is just that the newbies left and the big top X altcoins stopped getting pumped. so stop blaming TA, bots, whales, aliens,... and stop being involved with pump and dump altcoins ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh dude. Where did I state that I loose money? I did not state that. I just said the nature of current market. Of course I never loose single satoshi cent. Our aum performance is much higher than other funds because we have right data sources and right tools. I also did not dump and pump altcoins. In fact I never focused on altcoins. Where did I say that? You so pathetic. I talk about Bitcoins.
|
|
|
|
truthhood (OP)
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 03:03:39 PM |
|
Sites like Coindesk and Cointelegraph has corrupt authors who offer to write articles at $20,000.00 price tag. Corrupt? Do you even know the amount fo traffic those sites have? They probably get around 8-figures of monthly traffic so asking that much to publish an article that'll reach hundreds of thousands of readers sounds like a fair deal. The content of the article is a whole different story. In CNBC, I know fat scammer always say price go to 200k, 20k, 50k, 10k, 5k using TA ahahahhahahah guess who is ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Dog timmy So, you shit on TA for trying to predict the price (which isn't the main purpose of TA, as @mjglqw pointed out), but then you go and do this: The next pump is planned to take place in Q1-Q2 range. the expected pump will increase price upto $11,000 and back to $100.00. Hmm, I wonder, who should I trust? The TA from a reputable person on CNBC, or some random stranger on the internet that's probably lying about running a 1 billion + crypto hedge fund?...Geez, I'm in a bit of a pickle right here (: Don't trust anybody.
Yeah, starting with you. Oh boy. I expect more attacks from people like you. Where did I state that I used TA to predict price? Show me one piece of sentence. Kiddo, TA are here since hundred years and everyone knows it's manipulative tool because one whale can pay any TA authors to show here where price goes. TA pay role in manipulation. I never lied anyone. I speak from my heart and honestly. I do not want to have fight with gamblers and shills. 1 billion is not my own money kiddo. It's our investors money. You can also start own one but I spouse many people here lack financial literacy. Regarding Coindesk and Cointelegraph, you don't need thousands of money here. All need 20k. your logic does not make any sense. They have thousands of articles. so 20k x ====== ?!? guess. Tim bull is reputable? Yo kiddo, he have his own fund as-well. He put prices as he want. He also play role in this whole ponzi giant scheme. Again, Bitcoin is not ponzi but the market it's. The market need more surveillance tools.
|
|
|
|
iamMhew
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 03:08:22 PM |
|
We never know the truth, but the facts is, there are someone or somebody (individual whales/groups) that wants to manipulate the market price of each coins mostly bitcoin, i dont care about the ratings in coindesk and cointelegraph or what so ever because money can buy anything, meaning millionaire's are becoming more billionaire in this kind of bussiness.
|
|
|
|
qwk
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3542
Merit: 3413
Shitcoin Minimalist
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 03:09:28 PM |
|
Technical analysis is an another form of manipulation.
Your point being? TA ist hokum. Trying to find patterns in random walks has the same, solid, evidence-based foundation as - Astrology - Homeopathy - Dowsing - Clairvoyance etc., etc. If anything, not TA itself is manipulation; selling TA to others is. https://xkcd.com/2101/
|
Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
|
|
|
truthhood (OP)
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 03:10:22 PM |
|
I mean, it isn't new that news are potentially being used for manipulation, and I also really see that it's very very possible some YouTube TA-ers potentially going bullish just to potentially manipulate the prices upward, but I really don't know about the "special fingerprinting algorithms" and the "$5000/mo trading bot" you're claiming to have. I can prove. Easy.
What will be the next price in one quarter? Who predicted last 2017 Dec's 20k price using TA?
Ask them. You can't use TA in trading. it sucks. you always end up losing using funny cups. Those TA gurus are so funny. They hate to hear truth. Fearful.
I personally don't do TA, but TA isn't really for predicting prices. TA is just used as a guide to be able to see if the odds are in your favor or not, regardless how big or small the probability percentages are. The algorithms are trained with closed source data (Banking data, Offline data, the list goes on). you need to understand data science. I'm not selling anything neither promoting any bots. We don't use bots at all. The computers we're using don't have a display and they are really optimized to get maximum results . No bruh not even Intel and we don't do day trading. For day trading, HFT firms do this. I know Chumberland do HFT.
|
|
|
|
truthhood (OP)
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 03:20:41 PM |
|
I agree with you that the basis of the cryptocurrency market is manipulation. The trend of prices on all the exchanges specify trading bots. We don't even know if they actually have that many coins to bet on or if it's just the numbers we see. The main volume of sales of crypto is done outside the exchanges. But I'm not sure that bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. I believe in the future of bitcoin but after the opportunity to buy and sell it for dollars, it became subject to those who have a lot of dollars. They dictate prices and easily manipulate the market.
Bitcoin is not ponzi but the market is ponzi. It's a passive ponzi scheme. People blind still. Enough. I will never be in Bitcointalk again. People are not appreciate truth here. Good luck and dream moon tonight! Bye.
|
|
|
|
Indamuck
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 03:27:56 PM |
|
You can call every investment a pyramid/ ponzi scheme. The ones that get in early make tons of money while new investors often lose money and buy near the peak. Bitcoin is still looking good compared to the overpriced stock market and the overpriced real estate market.
|
|
|
|
dothebeats
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3738
Merit: 1354
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 04:02:13 PM |
|
Everyone knows that TA in itself is really not an accurate tool to describe the future events in a market. It is a good indicator to position yourself on a given trend, though it isn't all that you need in trading. If someone sold you their own TA, then probably they are trying to instill something on your mind that the scenario they have is what's gonna happen, you should believe otherwise. The ones that are making money off of the droughts of the market are the ones selling their own predictions to the uneducated, and that's been going on for quite a long time now too.
|
|
|
|
posi
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
February 21, 2019, 04:07:21 PM |
|
I mean, it isn't new that news are potentially being used for manipulation, and I also really see that it's very very possible some YouTube TA-ers potentially going bullish just to potentially manipulate the prices upward, but I really don't know about the "special fingerprinting algorithms" and the "$5000/mo trading bot" you're claiming to have.
I believed the OP add to his statement which is another form of market manipulation as I'm consider because bot trading cost $19 to $150 per month. Aside that, every experienced cryptoneir already knew that cointelegraph, whales, fake crypto enthusiasts etc fabricated stories sometimes in other to maniplate the market. I can prove. Easy.
What will be the next price in one quarter? Who predicted last 2017 Dec's 20k price using TA?
Ask them. You can't use TA in trading. it sucks. you always end up losing using funny cups. Those TA gurus are so funny. They hate to hear truth. Fearful.
I personally don't do TA, but TA isn't really for predicting prices. TA is just used as a guide to be able to see if the odds are in your favor or not, regardless how big or small the probability percentages are. Some people don't know that Technical analysis is just a way of evaluate the trend poses by the market price and volume level. This why some people believed trading and gambling are somehow similar.
|
|
|
|
|