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November 09, 2019, 01:37:29 AM
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what you guys dont see is the big picture

while everyone squabbles oevr 'did he, didnt he' trump dont care
trump doesnt care about 'world peace' or solving problems

trump just wanted to have the oppertunity to sit at the top seat of the USA.
he got that wish. now his dream is fulfild h happy to move onto other things.

he knows his contract is many years. he doesnt want another term. he got his trophy
now all h wants to do is use his claim to the most top fame of usa to make money privately, which he cannot do whilst still in th white house
he is more than happy to leave.

he just wants to now tell his investment friends that he can control budgets of trillions and not cause anarchy. he wants to be able to tell grandkids that he was ''top of the world'

if you listen to him self doxxing himself and blurting out stuff he shouldnt. that not 'dumb trump' thats how do i provoke the public to quash my contract so that i can move on
he was hoping to have been put in office and taken out years ago, through the sexual references. then the self doxing of the elections. but that didnt work. so he upped his game. and will continue either until he sure people dont vote for him again next election, or hopefully by getting kicked out sooner
it was not dumb self sabotage. it was planned self sabotage

like going to work but then sitting in the coffee break room all day doing no work and flirting with the interns hoping your boss sacks you so you dont have to resign.
bign sacked for X is most times bettr than resigning by saying you couldnt do the job. coz then people end up thinking your not upto doing other jobs.
being sacked however. can open up new ventures and make you a needed commodity

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November 09, 2019, 02:00:26 AM
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The question isn't whether or not they have enough evidence, it's whether or not the thing they are accusing him of doing is worthy of removing a sitting president.

Back in the real world, a certain group of people decided Trump needed to be impeached the first day he was in office. And everyone knew it, because these people were pretty open about it.

They didn't care what the charges were, and they don't care today.

The evil that Trump did and was that they want to impeach him for is being Trump.
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November 09, 2019, 03:49:28 AM
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The question isn't whether or not they have enough evidence, it's whether or not the thing they are accusing him of doing is worthy of removing a sitting president.

Back in the real world, a certain group of people decided Trump needed to be impeached the first day he was in office. And everyone knew it, because these people were pretty open about it.

They didn't care what the charges were, and they don't care today.

The evil that Trump did and was that they want to impeach him for is being Trump.
You're probably not wrong, although I'm not sure anyone was actually open about it.  The general message was 'lets give him a chance' .

Regardless, the "democrats wanted to impeach him on day one!" is just a lame talking point that has nothing to do with the facts of the current impeachment proceedings.  It's just one of those things they keep saying over and over and over till eventually people start to think it's relevant.

Every president has members of congress trying to impeach them for whatever they can come up with.  The majority of Republicans wanted to impeach Obama at one point.  Being investigated and criticized is part of being the leader of a democracy.
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November 09, 2019, 10:35:10 PM
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It’s clear Democrats have no leader left that can challenge Trump in the 2020 elections, and the only way they’ll ever win is to impeach him which is really sad.
The vote to authorize the impeachment inquiry only shows that the impeachment is a partisan hit job, which should strengthen Trump's political power, and increase his chances of re-election.

Until and unless there is strong bipartisan support for impeachment, the party pursuing impeachment is going to be harmed in doing so. The vote against impeachment was bipartisan.

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November 09, 2019, 10:42:26 PM
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The question isn't whether or not they have enough evidence, it's whether or not the thing they are accusing him of doing is worthy of removing a sitting president.

Back in the real world, a certain group of people decided Trump needed to be impeached the first day he was in office. And everyone knew it, because these people were pretty open about it.

They didn't care what the charges were, and they don't care today.

The evil that Trump did and was that they want to impeach him for is being Trump.
You're probably not wrong, although I'm not sure anyone was actually open about it.  The general message was 'lets give him a chance' .

Regardless, the "democrats wanted to impeach him on day one!" is just a lame talking point that has nothing to do with the facts of the current impeachment proceedings.  It's just one of those things they keep saying over and over and over till eventually people start to think it's relevant.

Every president has members of congress trying to impeach them for whatever they can come up with.  The majority of Republicans wanted to impeach Obama at one point.  Being investigated and criticized is part of being the leader of a democracy.

Again, back in the real world, if we see signs and agitprop from the first day on impeaching Trump, and then facts come out about secret conspiracies to impeach Trump, including RussiaGate, and that fails and then they try again with TitforTat, ... I have to revise your statement...

FROM:

It's just one of those things they keep saying over and over and over till eventually people start to think it's relevant.

TO:

It's just one of those things they try over and over until people get really sick of them and kick them out.
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November 10, 2019, 12:06:08 AM
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The question isn't whether or not they have enough evidence, it's whether or not the thing they are accusing him of doing is worthy of removing a sitting president.

Back in the real world, a certain group of people decided Trump needed to be impeached the first day he was in office. And everyone knew it, because these people were pretty open about it.

They didn't care what the charges were, and they don't care today.

The evil that Trump did and was that they want to impeach him for is being Trump.
You're probably not wrong, although I'm not sure anyone was actually open about it.  The general message was 'lets give him a chance' .

Regardless, the "democrats wanted to impeach him on day one!" is just a lame talking point that has nothing to do with the facts of the current impeachment proceedings.  It's just one of those things they keep saying over and over and over till eventually people start to think it's relevant.

Every president has members of congress trying to impeach them for whatever they can come up with.  The majority of Republicans wanted to impeach Obama at one point.  Being investigated and criticized is part of being the leader of a democracy.

Again, back in the real world, if we see signs and agitprop from the first day on impeaching Trump, and then facts come out about secret conspiracies to impeach Trump, including RussiaGate, and that fails and then they try again with TitforTat, ... I have to revise your statement...

FROM:

It's just one of those things they keep saying over and over and over till eventually people start to think it's relevant.

TO:

It's just one of those things they try over and over until people get really sick of them and kick them out.

The existence of a secret conspiracy to impeach a president should not make the president immune to impeachment.

And the Russia investigation was not a secret conspiracy.  There is proof Russia interfered with our election.  There is proof that Trump encouraged and welcomed Russias help in getting him elected.  As a result of the investigation, there is now proof that his his campaign chairman, deputy chairman and personal lawyer all committed felonies in an effort to cover up various interactions and a Business deal with Russia.  The investigation also uncovered exactly how the Russians influenced the election, the Russian individuals responsible, the servers and vpns they used, the fake identities they used,  the email addresses they used, the bitcoin transactions that were made to pay for the servers and VPNs, how they got those bitcoins, the google searches the hackers made, the twitter accounts they used, and more.  This information will help with protecting our election process from foreign governments in the future.

All of these things happened in the real world and have nothing to do with whether or not the president leveraged the power of his office to try and get Ukraine to help him gain an advantage in the 2020 election.
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November 10, 2019, 01:23:04 AM
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The existence of a secret conspiracy to impeach a president should not make the president immune to impeachment.

And the Russia investigation was not a secret conspiracy.  There is proof Russia interfered with our election.  There is proof that Trump encouraged and welcomed Russias help in getting him elected.  As a result of the investigation, there is now proof that his his campaign chairman, deputy chairman and personal lawyer all committed felonies in an effort to cover up various interactions and a Business deal with Russia.  The investigation also uncovered exactly how the Russians influenced the election, the Russian individuals responsible, the servers and vpns they used, the fake identities they used,  the email addresses they used, the bitcoin transactions that were made to pay for the servers and VPNs, how they got those bitcoins, the google searches the hackers made, the twitter accounts they used, and more.  This information will help with protecting our election process from foreign governments in the future.

All of these things happened in the real world and have nothing to do with whether or not the president leveraged the power of his office to try and get Ukraine to help him gain an advantage in the 2020 election.

The existence of a secret conspiracy to impeach a president DOESN'T make the president immune to impeachment.

Here is the whole point. And it might sound kinda weird. But the man can be different from the person.

The person can be a man or any kind of artificial entity. Who are they trying to impeach? An artificial entity or the man?

If they impeach him, who cares? Let's take up our existence and men/women, not as persons on paperwork, and do whatever it takes to correct government from our end of things.

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