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I don't live in the US but it seems it's all an effort to prevent him from winning 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ3K1cyC0lsAnd you are right, it seems the Democrats don't really have a candidate that can come up against Trump's popularity (or notoriety, whichever way you think of it).
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This isn't worrying and they didn't win anything.
All they did here was pass a resolution setting up a path forward for the impeachment inquiry and increasing transparency for the inquiry. It's pretty much a 'mandate' from the House to go ahead.
But the thing is everyone knew they were going to win this -- they have a large majority in the house and they had a unified party. The Senate is where the real battle will happen -- that's where Trump can be removed from office (if found guilty)
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November 01, 2019, 02:05:19 PM |
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This isn't worrying and they didn't win anything.
All they did here was pass a resolution setting up a path forward for the impeachment inquiry and increasing transparency for the inquiry. It's pretty much a 'mandate' from the House to go ahead.
But the thing is everyone knew they were going to win this -- they have a large majority in the house and they had a unified party. The Senate is where the real battle will happen -- that's where Trump can be removed from office (if found guilty)
This move would be counter productive to the democratic party. Republicans have a majority in Senate and they'll at least hold the election for impeachment till 2020 elections. There are no solid reasons for impeaching Donald Trump and if he again won the people's mandate from the elections, there's no power stopping him. US really have no good choices and I believe people would again vote for Trump.
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November 01, 2019, 03:04:49 PM |
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I don't live in the US but it seems it's all an effort to prevent him from winning 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ3K1cyC0lsAnd you are right, it seems the Democrats don't really have a candidate that can come up against Trump's popularity (or notoriety, whichever way you think of it). Have to agree here. This is just procedural nonsense. They won't succeed in impeaching him but they are hoping to land a big enough blow to hurt his chances in next year's election. Is this really going to sway a firmly entrenched base? Wouldn't put any money on that. They need to give it up. Luckily old age is a factor with a lot of these nutjobs, so nature will begin to take its course over the next decade assuming we're all still here to observe that.
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November 01, 2019, 04:04:43 PM Last edit: November 01, 2019, 04:25:52 PM by KingScorpio |
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democrats are finished, they are simply just an anti white, anti european racism party with nazi influence (russia hatred) they have also no leaders anymore except hating racists even obama has connections with the racist regime in south africa. impeaching trump with a democrat mob is the only thing they can do to slow down their destruction, of them and the their lying media. democrats will soon fall apart into black women movement etc. and various other racism based groups. while republicans will turn towards defacto communism. regards
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November 03, 2019, 07:05:26 AM |
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Trump tweeted that [...] and I have to agree with him.
TBH I'm a bit surprised that anyone agrees with him about anything. The man is a walking parody. Pretty much anything he says is guaranteed to be a lie concocted in an attempt to serve his own self-interest.
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November 03, 2019, 07:25:39 AM |
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Trump tweeted that [...] and I have to agree with him.
TBH I'm a bit surprised that anyone agrees with him about anything. The man is a walking parody. Pretty much anything he says is guaranteed to be a lie concocted in an attempt to serve his own self-interest. It is not really much different than Obama tbh. He at least owns his own RE empire so he is not a complete tool like Obama. Obama looks like a serious fella on TV but behind the scenes he is just a tool for the deep state. Obama was only playing the script they gave him. Trump is trying but it is not easy to fight against these assholes but I can see him winning again in 2020.
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November 03, 2019, 05:46:43 PM |
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I don't live in the US but it seems it's all an effort to prevent him from winning 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ3K1cyC0lsAnd you are right, it seems the Democrats don't really have a candidate that can come up against Trump's popularity (or notoriety, whichever way you think of it). Have to agree here. This is just procedural nonsense. They won't succeed in impeaching him but they are hoping to land a big enough blow to hurt his chances in next year's election. Is this really going to sway a firmly entrenched base? Wouldn't put any money on that. They need to give it up. Luckily old age is a factor with a lot of these nutjobs, so nature will begin to take its course over the next decade assuming we're all still here to observe that. They can't really find solid evidence against him so they'll just do these media circuses where they can plant doubt into people's head. Most adult (hopefully) would already be familiar with this. As for the nutjobs, that'll only happen if they don't reproduce AND they stop indoctrinating more kids. Seriously, banning clapping on graduations. It's getting crazier out there.
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November 03, 2019, 10:04:11 PM |
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What I don't understand is, why not let the man finish out his term? I mean, there is exactly a year left till it's time to vote again. Is he really so savage that they need him out of there A.S.A.P? Never really understood politics myself, but it seems like society is becoming extremely more feminine in nature. All I see is whiners and complainers every day on the news, I know he's not the best president but damn, the lynch mob is really out for blood this time.
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November 04, 2019, 01:21:04 AM |
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What I don't understand is, why not let the man finish out his term? I mean, there is exactly a year left till it's time to vote again. Is he really so savage that they need him out of there A.S.A.P? Never really understood politics myself, but it seems like society is becoming extremely more feminine in nature. All I see is whiners and complainers every day on the news, I know he's not the best president but damn, the lynch mob is really out for blood this time. Because the Dems want to maintain a constant drumroll of "Bad Repubs", "Bad Trump!" nonstop into the elections. They know there is no chance of getting impeachment through the Senate. But the constant negativity is the goal. And doing it using the impeachment process does not cost them money, like advertising does. The government pays!
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November 05, 2019, 05:25:40 PM |
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Unfortunately, personal opinion does not matter on what is being played out in the United States. It is simply politics and nothing else. I think its just fighting Trump on two sides even though they know that he might not be impeached by the Senate, they just want to distract him as much as possible so that he wont be able to focus on 2020 which is fast approaching and by that, they take over the oval. Its just playing politics with the whole thing nothing else.
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November 05, 2019, 06:47:45 PM |
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As another note to this, the Dems didn't win anything yet. And it wasn't surprising that they were going to get this vote.
All they did was authorize their current inquiry into the President. It was more or less symbolic because it isn't required to be done -- its just to put Dems and Republicans on the record in regard to what their views on the impeachment inquiry are.
If they are to say -- yes this should go to a vote in the House, and they have the necessary votes for that -- that's ANOTHER THING. Because it means that the House thinks they have substantial evidence to either convince enough Republicans in the Senate to vote for the removal of Trump, or they think they're going to be able to take the information that they've gathered and make Republicans look bad for voting no on the removal.
At the end of the day, this is all PR and spin. That's it. Politics baby.
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November 07, 2019, 02:15:31 PM |
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trump won't be impeached.
democrats are only hitting air
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November 07, 2019, 03:31:15 PM |
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trump won't be impeached.
democrats are only hitting air
I mean -- what Trump did is wrong. There's no way to attack that one. But, what matters here is what Democrats can prove and who they can convince. They're going to have to convince the general public -- by getting more then 51 percent of people supporting removal from office to be able to feel as if they have a mandate. And even at that -- public support has to come from some Republicans as well -- as there's no way to remove Trump from office without the Senate being involved.
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November 08, 2019, 03:49:18 PM Last edit: November 08, 2019, 05:49:39 PM by KingScorpio |
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trump won't be impeached.
democrats are only hitting air
I mean -- what Trump did is wrong. There's no way to attack that one. But, what matters here is what Democrats can prove and who they can convince. They're going to have to convince the general public -- by getting more then 51 percent of people supporting removal from office to be able to feel as if they have a mandate. And even at that -- public support has to come from some Republicans as well -- as there's no way to remove Trump from office without the Senate being involved. trump did nothing wrong, he held back funds to ukraine if they dont investigate and punish the corruption of joe biden's son. democrats lie in order to protect themselves and their corrupt party, if trump wouldnt have forced ukraine government to hunt for biden's corruption he would have been accused of promoting corruption in ukraine/abroad.
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The Democrats and others do at least as bad as Trump. But they don't do the good things Trump is doing. And their reason for battering Trump is summed up in one thing ... he won the election.
Anti-Trump Coup Attempt by Undemocratic DemsMake no mistake about what's going on — a coup attempt against a sitting president for phony reasons, shamefully supported by most establishment media, making them complicit in the scam.
There's plenty to hold Trump accountable for — not mentioned in what may be multiple articles of impeachment against him, notably:
Endless wars of aggression and by other means against nations on the US target list for regime change — the highest of high crimes gone unpunished.
Supporting ISIS, al-Qaeda, and likeminded terrorists while pretending to combat their scourge.
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What's true about him and hardliners surrounding him largely applies to the vast majority in Congress from both right wings of the one-party state.
They support the above-listed abuses of power, Dems ignoring legitimate impeachable offenses they're complicit with.
They and media backing them oppose Trump for winning an election he was supposed to lose — not his pro-war, pro-business, anti-populist agenda they support. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 09, 2019, 01:04:03 AM |
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trump did nothing wrong, he held back funds to ukraine if they dont investigate and punish the corruption of joe biden's son.
Trump has denied this over and over. What I don't understand is, why not let the man finish out his term? I mean, there is exactly a year left till it's time to vote again. Is he really so savage that they need him out of there A.S.A.P? Never really understood politics myself, but it seems like society is becoming extremely more feminine in nature. All I see is whiners and complainers every day on the news, I know he's not the best president but damn, the lynch mob is really out for blood this time.
They think he tried to use congress approved foreign aid to help him win the next election (which is clearly not ok). If he did, then it wouldn't make sense to just let the next election happen without doing anything about it. They can't really find solid evidence against him so they'll just do these media circuses where they can plant doubt into people's head. Most adult (hopefully) would already be familiar with this.
They have a bunch of credible, non-partisan witnesses and the "I need you to do me a favor though" transcript. The question isn't whether or not they have enough evidence, it's whether or not the thing they are accusing him of doing is worthy of removing a sitting president.
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