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February 22, 2019, 04:46:16 PM
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The convector-miner - now you can also make bitcoins while heating apartment  Wink

Hotmine Company Announced the Convention-Miner on the december, 2018 - a silent household heater on high-performance 57 J \ Th chips (Clarks).

"Miners with the Beneficial Use of Waste Heat will make possible to keep mining profitable at home", - said Oles Slobodenyuk, Hotmine CEO.

The main feature is the using only passive elements, which allows the miner to be used as a silent household convector.

The declared specifications of the project:
1. Power consumption of the device - 750 watts / hour
2. Internet connection via wi-fi
3. Simple control panel and indicators
4. Maximum energy efficiency of the chips
5. Automatic setup and device connection via mobile App.
6. Practical and minimalistic design.

You do not need to have specific skills to control the income and work of the miner.
The device will automatically connect to a WI-FI network and will be controlled using a mobile application.

Current stage of the project:
1. New design of the board with 57 J/Th chips developed. Also 57 J \ Th chips has been tested on the max performace by our ingineers.
2. The design of the sample heater case has been developed.
3. Heating elements are produced - radiators.
4. Picked up all the hardware.

The most important thing - Miner heater will be completely silent.

Friends, we are interested in your thoughts about the project, as well as questions!

Let's get acquainted with Hotmine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111
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February 22, 2019, 05:39:46 PM
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This is not really a new idea, russian companies have been making something similar to this for a couple years now
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February 22, 2019, 05:45:56 PM
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This is not really a new idea, russian companies have been making something similar to this for a couple years now

Do you have links on the working product? Because currently we one step away from a working prototype
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February 22, 2019, 06:45:02 PM
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Here is a press release from Canaan Creative where they announced their heater based miner a few months back....

http://www.minerhome.com/avalon-release-30t-7nm-bitcoin-miner-and-two-mining-household-appliances/

Heres a heater based on GPU altcoin mining....

https://www.qarnot.com/crypto-heater_qc1/

Heres another crypto altcoin heater....

https://bitsonline.com/russian-heater-mines-ethereum/


I know there are more out there, these were found with a 20 second google search.

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February 27, 2019, 04:16:59 PM
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Here is a press release from Canaan Creative where they announced their heater based miner a few months back....

http://www.minerhome.com/avalon-release-30t-7nm-bitcoin-miner-and-two-mining-household-appliances/

Heres a heater based on GPU altcoin mining....

https://www.qarnot.com/crypto-heater_qc1/

Heres another crypto altcoin heater....

https://bitsonline.com/russian-heater-mines-ethereum/

I know there are more out there, these were found with a 20 second google search.



Thanks! The only difference is that this convector miner generate earnings by bitcoin mining Smiley Bitcoin only!  Grin
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February 27, 2019, 04:19:56 PM
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Today we received new radiators specifically designed for the convector:

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Why is this website have the same product picture to yours as well? I won't be tagging you as of the moment as the smart.io website is still pretty new and I don't know who's who and his pic seems to have the original size. But you need to provide more pictures of the same mining equipment for me to believe you along with a paper sign saying "Hotmine Company" or your product's name. If you don't respond to my request I'll turn my tag red in the coming days.

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February 28, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Last edit: March 01, 2019, 06:58:56 PM by selo
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Why is this website have the same product picture to yours as well? I won't be tagging you as of the moment as the smart.io website is still pretty new and I don't know who's who and his pic seems to have the original size. But you need to provide more pictures of the same mining equipment for me to believe you along with a paper sign saying "Hotmine Company" or your product's name. If you don't respond to my request I'll turn my tag red in the coming days.

Thread where you posted the same picture
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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).

In the branch with the history of Hotmine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111) there will be two more versions, have patience Smiley

To confirm, here is a video from our CEO on the Hotmine youtube channel, which shows the process of developing in slideshow:
https://youtu.be/hS5_Rxk2W04

Also video from our old youtube channel with some parts of 2013 mining equipment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDvV50WhZE

As well as photos that correspond to the videos Smiley
Cooling tube:


Paper board prototype:


Module:


Original picture with our watermark and few servers in work:

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February 28, 2019, 05:38:04 PM
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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).
This does not explain why smartheat.io have the same product picture as you do. If the picture above was the first version then why is smartheat.io using it and not their actual products you have sold to them? Things really don't add up as Smartheat is also a russian manufacuturer and distributor which earlier you have claimed in your other posts that you haven't heard about heat convection miners in Russia.

In the branch with the history of Hotmine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111) there will be two more versions, have patience Smiley

To confirm, here is a video from our CEO on the Hotmine youtube channel, which shows the process of developing in slideshow:
https://youtu.be/hS5_Rxk2W04

Also video from our old youtube channel with some parts of 2013 mining equipment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDvV50WhZE
You really think that a screen recorded video of a cellphone scrolling into some mining equipment is a convincing evidence for me? Well for me it isn't enough you already have undergone the trouble of uploading the Youtube video just right now but you didn't do the request that I asked for which is putting the company name in your "first version" of the mining equipment which both you and smartheat is using.

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March 01, 2019, 08:12:15 AM
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This is not really a new idea, russian companies have been making something similar to this for a couple years now

Moreover, apparently this is the same company ...

https://hotmine.io/en/catalog/heaters

This is not really a new idea, russian companies have been making something similar to this for a couple years now

Do you have links on the working product? Because currently we one step away from a working prototype

Yep, just take a look at my link posted above.  Undecided

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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).
This does not explain why smartheat.io have the same product picture as you do. If the picture above was the first version then why is smartheat.io using it and not their actual products you have sold to them? Things really don't add up as Smartheat is also a russian manufacuturer and distributor which earlier you have claimed in your other posts that you haven't heard about heat convection miners in Russia.

In the branch with the history of Hotmine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111) there will be two more versions, have patience Smiley

To confirm, here is a video from our CEO on the Hotmine youtube channel, which shows the process of developing in slideshow:
https://youtu.be/hS5_Rxk2W04

Also video from our old youtube channel with some parts of 2013 mining equipment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDvV50WhZE
You really think that a screen recorded video of a cellphone scrolling into some mining equipment is a convincing evidence for me? Well for me it isn't enough you already have undergone the trouble of uploading the Youtube video just right now but you didn't do the request that I asked for which is putting the company name in your "first version" of the mining equipment which both you and smartheat is using.

I have find the original photo, added watermark and updated post above. I think it will be better. Thanks for the experience, we will do better posts.

What do you want from me?)
1) prove that selo account is authorized to communicate on behalf of hotmine?
2) prove that the hotmine is a developer of mining equipment with a useful heat application?
3) for what reason photos of the equipment from the object on two sites?

Answers
1) selo is the opposite of Oles name - CEO - hotmine
   We can also post this story on hotmine.io within 3 days in the blog section if you need proof.

2) the video that you provided shows a photo album showing the process of creation (engineering thought of the first miner heater).
    This proves that we are developers. This is the fastest way that we find.
    If you want, fly to us and we will introduce you to the team.
    And who are you?

3) This is our photo. Photos from the object. We have provided our partners for placement on the site. Please note that this equipment was relevant in 2013 - 2015.
   Now other equipment is relevant. Exactly for this we began to lead a new branch.
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Okay, I don't understand the fuss going on above but this is the first time I've come across this product and would like to criticize it.
 - The product takes additional space in the room, kinda not suitable for small apartments I guess? Or does your product comes with a heater which will replace our original heater?

 - The electricity costs will bounce off much higher after installing that one right?
 - Since you will be making 'money' off it, wouldn't you have to pay commercial electricity charges?


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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).
This does not explain why smartheat.io have the same product picture as you do. If the picture above was the first version then why is smartheat.io using it and not their actual products you have sold to them? Things really don't add up as Smartheat is also a russian manufacuturer and distributor which earlier you have claimed in your other posts that you haven't heard about heat convection miners in Russia.
Same assumptions if smartheat is one of their partners or distributor and even tell that they do have lots of partners i cant even see another same product when trying to search out its only smartheat which
i do presume that they do just dragged out that picture and the original seller is smartheat itself.What you think? Grin
In the branch with the history of Hotmine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111) there will be two more versions, have patience Smiley

To confirm, here is a video from our CEO on the Hotmine youtube channel, which shows the process of developing in slideshow:
https://youtu.be/hS5_Rxk2W04

Also video from our old youtube channel with some parts of 2013 mining equipment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDvV50WhZE
You really think that a screen recorded video of a cellphone scrolling into some mining equipment is a convincing evidence for me? Well for me it isn't enough you already have undergone the trouble of uploading the Youtube video just right now but you didn't do the request that I asked for which is putting the company name in your "first version" of the mining equipment which both you and smartheat is using.
Present video with those mining equipment together with those convector with company name will do but i doubt he wont able to grant that request.


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March 02, 2019, 07:37:25 AM
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Okay, I don't understand the fuss going on above but this is the first time I've come across this product and would like to criticize it.
 - The product takes additional space in the room, kinda not suitable for small apartments I guess? Or does your product comes with a heater which will replace our original heater?

 - The electricity costs will bounce off much higher after installing that one right?
 - Since you will be making 'money' off it, wouldn't you have to pay commercial electricity charges?

Finally, questions about the heater Smiley

- Yes, it is suitable for small apartments. You can hang on the wall or put on the floor. Last approved size 1200x400 (mm) or 47,2x15,7(inch). Here is last drawing:


The first finished demo model expected in mid-April. From the first model we will develop further.

- in maximum mode will be approximately 900W - 11 TH/s; the most effective mode of operation is 550W - 9 TH/s;
operating mode 600W - 8 TH/s; consumption indicated by 220V ("from the outlet")

The mode will depend on the air temperature in the room - the lower the temperature - the more power consumption and more performance in TH, but worse efficiency. So we will float within these limits: 550-900W 8-11TH/s. These data were obtained when testing new chips and a new board that was specifically designed for the convector.

- So you will heat your appartment and make btc! At a cost of electricity of $ 0.05 per KWh, convector would mine 0.01btc / month or it is about $ 16.00 / month for today (in the operating mode 600W - 8 TH/s;). Not only free heat, but also bitcoins. Prices may vary depending on the cost of electricity.
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March 02, 2019, 09:13:49 AM
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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).
This does not explain why smartheat.io have the same product picture as you do. If the picture above was the first version then why is smartheat.io using it and not their actual products you have sold to them? Things really don't add up as Smartheat is also a russian manufacuturer and distributor which earlier you have claimed in your other posts that you haven't heard about heat convection miners in Russia.
Same assumptions if smartheat is one of their partners or distributor and even tell that they do have lots of partners i cant even see another same product when trying to search out its only smartheat which
i do presume that they do just dragged out that picture and the original seller is smartheat itself.What you think? Grin
In the branch with the history of Hotmine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111) there will be two more versions, have patience Smiley

To confirm, here is a video from our CEO on the Hotmine youtube channel, which shows the process of developing in slideshow:
https://youtu.be/hS5_Rxk2W04

Also video from our old youtube channel with some parts of 2013 mining equipment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDvV50WhZE
You really think that a screen recorded video of a cellphone scrolling into some mining equipment is a convincing evidence for me? Well for me it isn't enough you already have undergone the trouble of uploading the Youtube video just right now but you didn't do the request that I asked for which is putting the company name in your "first version" of the mining equipment which both you and smartheat is using.
Present video with those mining equipment together with those convector with company name will do but i doubt he wont able to grant that request.

Dudes, Hotmine - ukrainian developers and manufacturers. Yes, we had many partners, but it was in the past, we would like to talk about the present in this thread. And those old samples were on chips that have long been ineffective. Now they are no longer physically present, they are disassembled, the story remains) I repeat, in this thread we would like to have a conversation about a new development, and the old story was specially brought to the second branch:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114987.msg49947111#msg49947111

Be patient  Grin Thanks for trying to expose, it's even fun)
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March 02, 2019, 10:26:59 AM
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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).
This does not explain why smartheat.io have the same product picture as you do. If the picture above was the first version then why is smartheat.io using it and not their actual products you have sold to them? Things really don't add up as Smartheat is also a russian manufacuturer and distributor which earlier you have claimed in your other posts that you haven't heard about heat convection miners in Russia.
Same assumptions if smartheat is one of their partners or distributor and even tell that they do have lots of partners i cant even see another same product when trying to search out its only smartheat which
i do presume that they do just dragged out that picture and the original seller is smartheat itself.What you think? Grin
At this point I wouldn't assume on who's product belongs to who but so far they are not complying to what I asked for which was a really easy task all they have provided is just a screen recorded mobile phone scrolling to a bunch of mining equipment which at any point does not connect them in anyway being the owners of the mining equipment. Don't you think that there is a possibility that these people, Hotmine, just stumbled a bunch of mining equipment from a unknown manufacturer and started taking pictures and claim that its theirs.

With their latest posts in their other thread they just watermarked the old photos I am talking about which does not prove anything about them being the owners of the mining equipment. Again they already gone the trouble of creating a Youtube video and even watermarking their existing pictures then why can't they provide a written company name tag on their alleged mining equipment and take a picture of it?

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An interesting find! We are developers and equipment manufacturers. Smarheat is one of our many partners and distributors for our products. In 2016, they received from us, as from manufacturers, the right to distribute our products for one year, until 2017, but then we stopped working with them. In the picture that you sent above this is the first version of the server, also we have 2nd and 3rd version. Also in partnership with smartheat, they made for us only case for the 3rd version of heater (2016), but we did all the R&D for first one (2013) and the second (2014).
This does not explain why smartheat.io have the same product picture as you do. If the picture above was the first version then why is smartheat.io using it and not their actual products you have sold to them? Things really don't add up as Smartheat is also a russian manufacuturer and distributor which earlier you have claimed in your other posts that you haven't heard about heat convection miners in Russia.
Same assumptions if smartheat is one of their partners or distributor and even tell that they do have lots of partners i cant even see another same product when trying to search out its only smartheat which
i do presume that they do just dragged out that picture and the original seller is smartheat itself.What you think? Grin
At this point I wouldn't assume on who's product belongs to who but so far they are not complying to what I asked for which was a really easy task all they have provided is just a screen recorded mobile phone scrolling to a bunch of mining equipment which at any point does not connect them in anyway being the owners of the mining equipment. Don't you think that there is a possibility that these people, Hotmine, just stumbled a bunch of mining equipment from a unknown manufacturer and started taking pictures and claim that its theirs.

With their latest posts in their other thread they just watermarked the old photos I am talking about which does not prove anything about them being the owners of the mining equipment. Again they already gone the trouble of creating a Youtube video and even watermarking their existing pictures then why can't they provide a written company name tag on their alleged mining equipment and take a picture of it?

Okay, dudes. We still have the remains of these old miners at the plant. One of these days we take a picture with a sign and send you) But this makes little sense. Here, in Ukraine, the conditions of production may differ from what you are used to. This may be similar to the garage conditions for the production of the first computers. You will not understand this until you see for yourself)) Fly to our production - we will give you a tour

And before writing on this topic. This story is similar if I asked you: "Show me now that you have some bitcoins and prove that they belong to you in real life"  Grin
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March 04, 2019, 08:46:47 AM
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We use the Raspik computer in convector development (Raspberry Pi 3, green in the photo), which provides the output of the convector to the network via wifi, as well as the control board - it connects all the boards that make the calculations. But these are just a few of their main functions. Want to know more, ask questions Smiley



We also worked on a convenient indication of the device operation states. And in the end of the week there will be a demonstration of the work of indicator lights.



Then we will build it into the body of the convector, which is now in production.
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March 04, 2019, 11:08:42 AM
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I like the idea itself quite well, because I have already thought about something like this. Since I can only heat my apartment with electricity, I also thought about such a solution. Unfortunately, I didn't go on with the idea, but it was nice to see that other people really put it into practice. I wonder if such a system is really enough to heat my whole apartment with it and what about the noise nuisance? Is such a mining-heating very loud?  Smiley


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March 04, 2019, 03:25:43 PM
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I like the idea itself quite well, because I have already thought about something like this. Since I can only heat my apartment with electricity, I also thought about such a solution. Unfortunately, I didn't go on with the idea, but it was nice to see that other people really put it into practice. I wonder if such a system is really enough to heat my whole apartment with it and what about the noise nuisance? Is such a mining-heating very loud?  Smiley

Well, look. Previously, in miners, power supply units and coolers for heat dissipation were noisy, they were active, with fans. There was a double noise. But in this development there will be a power supply with passive cooling, as well as specially designed radiators, which also passively remove heat from the chips, that make calculations, through the upper openings of the convector. So, it will be completely noiseless Smiley
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