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February 23, 2019, 05:19:24 AM
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This is a subject that I am passionate about, what I know is what I saw in a documentary, and the truth has awakened my total interest.

The experts in the field, I would like to know what they think about it. Some book? What can you recommend? There are many operations at high speeds on the market today, that a normal operator would not give him the opportunity to react.

There was data on Wall Street that caused the positions of many investors to lose, the market simply collapsed for a few seconds and recovered taking all positions with Stop Loss and transformed them into winning positions ... but in the Bitcoin market, I has seen some operations similar to these movements.

Should we pay attention to this technology that is already booming?

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February 23, 2019, 09:04:05 AM
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This is a subject that I am passionate about, what I know is what I saw in a documentary, and the truth has awakened my total interest.

The experts in the field, I would like to know what they think about it. Some book? What can you recommend? There are many operations at high speeds on the market today, that a normal operator would not give him the opportunity to react.

There was data on Wall Street that caused the positions of many investors to lose, the market simply collapsed for a few seconds and recovered taking all positions with Stop Loss and transformed them into winning positions ... but in the Bitcoin market, I has seen some operations similar to these movements.

Should we pay attention to this technology that is already booming?

high speed algorithmic trading has been with bitcoin since at least 2014. it gets worse all the time. endless stop runs in both directions and super choppy price action is the norm now as a result.

that's one of the reason you can tell wall street is here. this is what they've been doing for years in the regular markets. the only way to beat them IMO is to trade the higher time frames and use wider stops.

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February 23, 2019, 09:34:24 AM
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that's one of the reason you can tell wall street is here. this is what they've been doing for years in the regular markets. the only way to beat them IMO is to trade the higher time frames and use wider stops.
I totally agree. The same high frequency trading is being translated from forex to crypto. The smart money is feeding off of the retail traders. To minimize the likelihood of being pray, retail traders should go to the daily time frame, although there is no guarantee.
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February 23, 2019, 01:32:22 PM
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So, we as traders must study under what premises these algorithms operate? I have thought that it can take us as a measure not to fall into traps to operate our operations in a riskier way, could we be talking about entering trading without Stop Loss? even if that means being all day watching the graphic to react?

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February 23, 2019, 01:54:39 PM
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So, we as traders must study under what premises these algorithms operate?
I think there is not much we can study. They will move the market whichever way they think makes them more money. These algos hunt the positions where the majority of stops are.

could we be talking about entering trading without Stop Loss?
That would be a suicide. Much better is to go to the daily time frame, set a not so tight a stop loss, and hope it won't be triggered.

even if that means being all day watching the graphic to react?
That is a total waste of time. Better set a stop loss and check whether it has been triggered once or twice a day. Otherwise you will be in a state of mild stress all day long.
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February 23, 2019, 03:51:42 PM
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So, we as traders must study under what premises these algorithms operate?
I think there is not much we can study. They will move the market whichever way they think makes them more money. These algos hunt the positions where the majority of stops are.

could we be talking about entering trading without Stop Loss?
That would be a suicide. Much better is to go to the daily time frame, set a not so tight a stop loss, and hope it won't be triggered.

even if that means being all day watching the graphic to react?
That is a total waste of time. Better set a stop loss and check whether it has been triggered once or twice a day. Otherwise you will be in a state of mild stress all day long.

Is that the most logical thing is to establish our Stop Loss, do you mean that for now there is no way out that we can have to defend ourselves? and for those of us who like to trade in the medium and long term? Something we must learn, to defend ourselves.

Maybe you see some text book, something that can educate us.

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February 24, 2019, 08:02:45 AM
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I think that pace is because technology is improved enough to automate almost all trading. Either thanks to trading bots in all trading (forex or bitcoin doesn't matter) and also stop loss- buy order- sell order and all that automatic movements are there as well. So when something manually happens all those check points are hit and react accordingly and that is why the moves are so fastly done, not because people are always 7/24 looking at the charts and react but because tech allows them to be away from keyboard and still make sure their trades are not going down the hill.

If there is a stop loss at a big number on some coin then when we reach that it will sell in a second before you can react because its basically coded in the exchange with the stop loss. Basically all that pace comes from moves that were given to the exchange and done without human supervision.
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February 24, 2019, 09:37:44 AM
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I think you can find much information about cryptocurrency by searching on the internet. Since a few years ago, people can find many things easily from the internet and I am sure that now, the internet has grown so it will help people to search information about cryptocurrency, trading and many else.

I cannot give any recommendation about the book because I never read a book and I only find out by using the internet. I know that maybe it sounds weird to you but for me, as long as I can find what I am looking for at the internet, I will still searching until I can get it.

We should pay attention to this technology IF we want to get involve and take the benefits of the technology. By using technology, we will become smart than others and we can get new information that shows up in every day.

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February 24, 2019, 12:51:48 PM
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This is a subject that I am passionate about, what I know is what I saw in a documentary, and the truth has awakened my total interest.

The experts in the field, I would like to know what they think about it. Some book? What can you recommend? There are many operations at high speeds on the market today, that a normal operator would not give him the opportunity to react.

There was data on Wall Street that caused the positions of many investors to lose, the market simply collapsed for a few seconds and recovered taking all positions with Stop Loss and transformed them into winning positions ... but in the Bitcoin market, I has seen some operations similar to these movements.

Should we pay attention to this technology that is already booming?

What technology?Are you talking about trading bots?Yes,trading bots are dominating the stock markets and they will dominate the cryptocurrency markets.I'm not quite interested in tradng bots,so I can't recommend any book or course.Just search on Youtube.

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February 24, 2019, 01:03:20 PM
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AFAIK, after I made TA with MA 100 & 200 , when the result is trending up with high volume, it has highly chance for the value to increase.
So yes, it's critical to see any kind of transaction especially on volume because if you want to make quick profit, it should be done on short term trading

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